This "rivalry" is becoming sad

[Fab5Coug]

Also in anticipation of your response saying WSU, Leach hasnt recruited 37 4 star recruits to verbal commits, LOI, etc

Yes WSU, Leach has.

In another comment posted in another thread, I posted all 37 player names.

There was 10 clear 4 stars like Gabe Marks.

There was 17 that according to Rivals ranking system:

RR, Rivals Ranking is NR to 5 to 5.5 to 6+

NR, to about 5.1 is 2 star.

About 5.2, 5.3 to 5.5, 5.6 is 3 star

5.6 is HIGH end 3 star

5.7 is Borderline 3,4 star, and is Low end 4 star at best.

5.8,5.9 is clear 4 star like Gabe Marks.

According to that, there are 15,16 RR 5.7 Borderline, technical 4 stars, and 1,2, 2,3 Stars that were UPGRADED to 4 stars like Patrick Utchinski

That means that according to that, Leach recruited, got 37 4 stars.

But Hey keep up your revisionist history perception that supposedly Leach is supposedly ONLY a good evaluator, and that Leach can't semi consistently get 4 stars.

Using Rivals rankings, I'm counting 9, Marks, Alex Mitchell (who was actually a Wulff commit who never made it in), Bruggman, Hillinski, Toki, Calvin, White, Jackson & Cooper.

Not sure where you're getting the other 28 4 stars, unless you're just considering borderline guys to be 4 stars for some reason.

 

[Flatlandcoug]

Using Rivals rankings, I'm counting 9, Marks, Alex Mitchell (who was actually a Wulff commit who never made it in), Bruggman, Hillinski, Toki, Calvin, White, Jackson & Cooper.

Not sure where you're getting the other 28 4 stars, unless you're just considering borderline guys to be 4 stars for some reason.

If you can decipher his one post, he is granting 4 star status to guys that were listed as 3 stars but met his personal criteria for 4 stars.

 

[CougEd]

Yet, you were such a Pollyanna 2008-2011. Never a negative word then, never a moment of despair, but here you are, Nancy, with a razor at your wrist.

Wait, aren't you one of the people back in the day to have expectations,it isn't about participation ribbons?

A couple of thoughts- of course I would hold Leach to a different standard. Wulff was trying to build up a program that he had zero cache. Of course I would expect different results from Leach than Wulff. And I never once said Leach would not get it done, nor have I ever criticized him for getting rid of Wulff's players. It is part of the business.

You must have missed the numerous posts where I said Leach should be coach of the year. And guess what, losing Friday doesn't change that.

My expectation until we beat the Dawgs is that they will line up and do the same thing and so will we---and they will win. It is clear most feel there is a talent gap in the wrong areas, Dline, DB's, and oline that it will take awhile to close that gap.

When you write the following " rather than trot out the same Asperger's-laden game plan every late November, especially when Mother Nature takes a big sh!t on your game plan" is that somehow a ringing endorsement of the coaching THAT DAY?

I said it probably 10 times this week the UW is just a bad match up for us. There is no wrist slashing, simply commenting on what I saw.

And what you see as negative, for example a bad 2014 class, we struggled to get Dlineman in 2015 is simply reality to me. Leach is not perfect, nor is any coach. Price's 94 class was a bust and maybe the most decorated class in school history.

Leach guided WSU through a really tough off season and had a magical season. And he should get another raise for that.

I have very few disagreements with Leach. One is that no coach should ever jump in the political arena. I wasn't a huge fan of when he gave a snarky answer when asked about Luke Falk being carted off the field.

I have disagreements with my kids and wife, and yet at the end of the day there is love and a commonality. Not all that different with Leach.

 

[longtimecoug]

Since 1997 we have beaten the UW 5 times -- yeah! Until you realize that 4 of those wins came against UW teams were a combined 7-40, and the biggest victory margin against "the little sisters of poor" was 7 points. We have only 1 win against a UW team with a winning record, at 7-6. During that same period the UW has 4 wins over 10 win Cougar teams, two 9 win teams and one 8 win team. They have beaten us by double figures 11 times.

It was fair to be critical to Mike Price because of his lack of consistency, and we were. While Mike Leach has solved the consistency problem that plagued Mike Price, he has own similar flaw. His players and his teams just can't play with the UW. His lone win against the UW was with Wulff woefully undermanned recruits.

To beat the big boys, you need to have some big boys of your own. By big boys I don't mean size per se, I mean elite players. We need to start to transition from recruiting undersized/undermanned kids with big hearts, to kids with big heart who can play for any body. 100 million dollars we have spent, gone deeply into debt, and you still can't match Mike Price's recruiting on a shoe string budget, who couldn't win consistently like you can.

Mike Leach its time to address your biggest weakness as a coach, your achilles heel. It is time to get out there into living rooms, and start selling yourself and Cougars harder and better. With your record and our facilities, bottom division recruiting just isn't acceptable any more.

We have discovered that going to a bowl game after getting run over by the UW isn't like kissing your sister, it is like kissing your sister who also has some serious bad breath.

dude, wake up. leach is light years ahead of Price in recruiting, that is why we win every year now. Price was not a great recruiter, he took flyers on a ton of high risk kids in the hope they would make it into school, most didn't

 

[CougEd]

dude, wake up. leach is light years ahead of Price in recruiting, that is why we win every year now. Price was not a great recruiter, he took flyers on a ton of high risk kids in the hope they would make it into school, most didn't

Bledsoe, Hunter, Eaton, Boose, Leaf, BEnder, David, Trufant, and a host of others might disagree with you.

 

[YakiCoug]

Wait, aren't you one of the people back in the day to have expectations,it isn't about participation ribbons?

A couple of thoughts- of course I would hold Leach to a different standard. Wulff was trying to build up a program that he had zero cache. Of course I would expect different results from Leach than Wulff. And I never once said Leach would not get it done, nor have I ever criticized him for getting rid of Wulff's players. It is part of the business.

You must have missed the numerous posts where I said Leach should be coach of the year. And guess what, losing Friday doesn't change that.

My expectation until we beat the Dawgs is that they will line up and do the same thing and so will we---and they will win. It is clear most feel there is a talent gap in the wrong areas, Dline, DB's, and oline that it will take awhile to close that gap.

When you write the following " rather than trot out the same Asperger's-laden game plan every late November, especially when Mother Nature takes a big sh!t on your game plan" is that somehow a ringing endorsement of the coaching THAT DAY?

I said it probably 10 times this week the UW is just a bad match up for us. There is no wrist slashing, simply commenting on what I saw.

And what you see as negative, for example a bad 2014 class, we struggled to get Dlineman in 2015 is simply reality to me. Leach is not perfect, nor is any coach. Price's 94 class was a bust and maybe the most decorated class in school history.

Leach guided WSU through a really tough off season and had a magical season. And he should get another raise for that.

I have very few disagreements with Leach. One is that no coach should ever jump in the political arena. I wasn't a huge fan of when he gave a snarky answer when asked about Luke Falk being carted off the field.

I have disagreements with my kids and wife, and yet at the end of the day there is love and a commonality. Not all that different with Leach.

Yes, so much love for a 10-2 regular season. You're doing exactly what I said you'd do. If we have success (and 10-1 represents success), you will piss and moan should we lose to the mutts. When we win, you are silent. When we lose, you're just the whiny little bitch you've been since Wulff and Ballsack were fired. Shut the hell up.

 

[CougEd]

Yes, so much love for a 10-2 regular season. You're doing exactly what I said you'd do. If we have success (and 10-1 represents success), you will piss and moan should we lose to the mutts. When we win, you are silent. When we lose, you're just the whiny little bitch you've been since Wulff and Ballsack were fired. Shut the hell up.

Bad day? You sure would like me silenced . Good thing I cleared my day tomorrow so I can “talk” some more .

Never did understand your comment when you talked about the game plan being “asperger”.

And sorry the thoughts Leach should be coach of the year doesn’t seem like support to you .

Talk about participation ribbons and what was the other item... oh yeah unicorns .

And if you or anyone else are not disappointed getting handled six years in a row by our rivals then then I don’t know what to say.

Yes, the season was very successful but it was a Cinderella season and we found out Friday the slipper didn’t fit.

 

[YakiCoug]

Bad day? You sure would like me silenced . Good thing I cleared my day tomorrow so I can “talk” some more .

Never did understand your comment when you talked about the game plan being “asperger”.

And sorry the thoughts Leach should be coach of the year doesn’t seem like support to you .

Talk about participation ribbons and whatvwas the other item... oh yeah unicorns .

It will happen, one way or another.

 

[CougEd]

It will happen, one way or another.

I agree, Leach will be coach of the year one way or another.

 

[mikalalas]

According to Rivals Ranking system that goes from NR to 5, to 5.5, to 6+:

NR is 1,2 star. 5.1 is 2 star, 5.2 to 5.5 is 3 star. 5.6 is high end 3 star, 5.8+ is Clear 4 stars, by ESPN, 247, SCOUT, RIVALS, ETC.

5.7 is BORDERLINE 3,4 STAR, HIGH END 3 STAR, LOW END 4 STAR, SOME 5.7's, are considered high end 3 stars, by some recruiting services, like ESPN, 247, SCOUT, RIVALS, other 5.7's are considered low end 4 stars, by some recruiting services like ESPN, 247, SCOUT, RIVALS.

BECAUSE OF ABOVE, 5.7's are low end 4 stars.

Basically 5.7's are right on the BORDERLINE BETWEEN 3 stars, 4 stars, that one could reasonably logically call 5.7's, 3 stars, or 4 stars.

Based on above. WSU,Leach has about 15,16 5.7 RR ranked recruits that can rightly be called low end 4 star, one could also rightly call them high end 3 stars, or one could rightly call them borderline, in between 3,4 stars

There are 10 RR 5.8, RR 5.9, clear 4 stars(RR, RIVALS RANKING 5.8+ above, are considered CLEAR 4 stars by ESPN, 247, SCOUT, RIVALS,ETC).

There are about 1,2,3 upgraded 4 stars that were upgraded from 2,3 stars to 4 stars. Patrick Utchinski was, is one of them.

10 clear RR 5.8+ ranked 4 stars + 15,16 5.7 ranked BORDERLINE in BETWEEN 3,4 stars, TECHNICAL LOW END 4 STARS + 1,2 4 STAR UPGRADES like Patrick Utchinski, EQUALS:

37 TECHNICAL 4 STARS, by WSU, Leach during Leach's 7 year tenure, so far.

 

[mikalalas]

Bledsoe, Hunter, Eaton, Boose, Leaf, BEnder, David, Trufant, and a host of others might disagree with you.

ED you saying that is like someone saying that Mike Price was a better coach then Leach because of 97, 3 10 win seasons, when in REALITY PRICE WAS NOT AS GOOD A COACH BECAUSE OF PRICE'S 1 GOOD YEAR PER EVERY 2,3, 3 WINS-8 LOSSES, RECORD, BAD YEARS

You dont, shouldnt judge Price on whether he was a good or bad recruiter or not because of the small handful of guys you named.

They were the exception not the norm.

They are 1 out of 10 to 100 guys

Leach has CONSISTENTLY recruited more 3,4 stars then Price.

Yes Price got a 1,2 top 25 classes, yes Price recruited 1,2 5 stars, something Leach hasnt done.

But throw those EXCEPTIONS out, and go by what Price NORMALLY did, and Price was not as consistent, good as Leach.

Leaches CONSISTENT ability to recruit 37 technical 4 stars, 15,16 if which were,are,is 5.7 RR, BORDERLINE, IN BETWEEN HIGH END 3 STAR, LOW END 4 STARS, over his 7 year Tenure, is better then Price and why Leach has had 4 straight, 8,9+ win seasons, which is better then Price

 

[CougEd]

ED you saying that is like someone saying that Mike Price was a better coach then Leach because of 97, 3 10 win seasons, when in REALITY PRICE WAS NOT AS GOOD A COACH BECAUSE OF PRICE'S 1 GOOD YEAR PER EVERY 2,3, 3 WINS-8 LOSSES, RECORD, BAD YEARS

You dont, shouldnt judge Price on whether he was a good or bad recruiter or not because of the small handful of guys you named.

They were the exception not the norm.

They are 1 out of 10 to 100 guys

Leach has CONSISTENTLY recruited more 3,4 stars then Price.

Yes Price got a 1,2 top 25 classes, yes Price recruited 1,2 5 stars, something Leach hasnt done.

But throw those EXCEPTIONS out, and go by what Price NORMALLY did, and Price was not as consistent, good as Leach.

Leaches CONSISTENT ability to recruit 37 technical 4 stars, 15,16 if which were,are,is 5.7 RR, BORDERLINE, IN BETWEEN HIGH END 3 STAR, LOW END 4 STARS, over his 7 year Tenure, is better then Price and why Leach has had 4 straight, 8,9+ win seasons, which is better then Price

I would offer something different. System. Mike Price got these first round draft picks at QB. When they left early they left a huge void. What would WSU's record be if Bledsoe and Leaf stayed their senior years? The problem is it is hard to get a QB to commit when Bledsoe just started his freshman year. If Jake Plummer didn't switch late to ASU he could have guided us in 94-96. Then Leaf's turn.

A second reason is Mike Leach has no problem telling a kid he really should transfer. Prior to big boy football WSU coaches would have to eat their recruiting mistakes. They would not move a lineman for example that once on campus they realized they made a mistake. Leach can get numbers because he knows how to get rid of players that turn out not to be Pac 12 players.

Has Leach had a class near 1999? What DB's compare to the ones of yesteryear

Of course I would think Leach was more consistent. He had a great resume at Tech. He brings instant cred to the recruiting trail. Where did Price come from?

 

[YakiCoug]

I would offer something different. System. Mike Price got these first round draft picks at QB. When they left early they left a huge void. What would WSU's record be if Bledsoe and Leaf stayed their senior years? The problem is it is hard to get a QB to commit when Bledsoe just started his freshman year. If Jake Plummer didn't switch late to ASU he could have guided us in 94-96. Then Leaf's turn.

A second reason is Mike Leach has no problem telling a kid he really should transfer. Prior to big boy football WSU coaches would have to eat their recruiting mistakes. They would not move a lineman for example that once on campus they realized they made a mistake. Leach can get numbers because he knows how to get rid of players that turn out not to be Pac 12 players.

Has Leach had a class near 1999? What DB's compare to the ones of yesteryear

Of course I would think Leach was more consistent. He had a great resume at Tech. He brings instant cred to the recruiting trail. Where did Price come from?

On the heels of a 10-2 season, you're going on and on Ed Naseam over the loss to UW, just as I predicted you and other Waldenesque Coug losers would do. Does Leach have his flaws? Of course he does. But they matter little in the big scheme of things. While you and other Walden/Wulffies leg hump '82, '83, and '85, you ignore WSU's in-conference and overall win/loss record of the past four seasons. You suggest you're a supporter of Cougar athletics and that you're a WSU graduate, but put up proof of either, Eric C. Dickenson of Evergreen Home Loans. Shall I post your cell number so people can question you directly?

 

[Fab5Coug]

According to Rivals Ranking system that goes from NR to 5, to 5.5, to 6+:

NR is 1,2 star. 5.1 is 2 star, 5.2 to 5.5 is 3 star. 5.6 is high end 3 star, 5.8+ is Clear 4 stars, by ESPN, 247, SCOUT, RIVALS, ETC.

5.7 is BORDERLINE 3,4 STAR, HIGH END 3 STAR, LOW END 4 STAR, SOME 5.7's, are considered high end 3 stars, by some recruiting services, like ESPN, 247, SCOUT, RIVALS, other 5.7's are considered low end 4 stars, by some recruiting services like ESPN, 247, SCOUT, RIVALS.

BECAUSE OF ABOVE, 5.7's are low end 4 stars.

Basically 5.7's are right on the BORDERLINE BETWEEN 3 stars, 4 stars, that one could reasonably logically call 5.7's, 3 stars, or 4 stars.

Based on above. WSU,Leach has about 15,16 5.7 RR ranked recruits that can rightly be called low end 4 star, one could also rightly call them high end 3 stars, or one could rightly call them borderline, in between 3,4 stars

There are 10 RR 5.8, RR 5.9, clear 4 stars(RR, RIVALS RANKING 5.8+ above, are considered CLEAR 4 stars by ESPN, 247, SCOUT, RIVALS,ETC).

There are about 1,2,3 upgraded 4 stars that were upgraded from 2,3 stars to 4 stars. Patrick Utchinski was, is one of them.

10 clear RR 5.8+ ranked 4 stars + 15,16 5.7 ranked BORDERLINE in BETWEEN 3,4 stars, TECHNICAL LOW END 4 STARS + 1,2 4 STAR UPGRADES like Patrick Utchinski, EQUALS:

37 TECHNICAL 4 STARS.

So, nine 4 stars and 28 3 stars that were close. Got it.

 

[CougEd]

On the heels of a 10-2 season, you're going on and on Ed Naseam over the loss to UW, just as I predicted you and other Waldenesque Coug losers would do. Does Leach have his flaws? Of course he does. But they matter little in the big scheme of things. While you and other Walden/Wulffies leg hump '82, '83, and '85, you ignore WSU's in-conference and overall win/loss record of the past four seasons. You suggest you're a supporter of Cougar athletics and that you're a WSU graduate, but put up proof of either, Eric C. Dickenson of Evergreen Home Loans. Shall I post your cell number so people can question you directly?

Oh my, you didn't even wait for my answer. Why not give me a jingle since you did post it and air your grievances.

 

[mikalalas]

So, nine 4 stars and 28 3 stars that were close. Got it.

No, 9 clear RR 5.8+ 4 stars, listed in Rivals WSU recruiting database. Whats throwing you off is Rodrick Fisher is a Clear 4 star according to SCOUT. Fisher is a 3 star on Rivals. THAT'S 10 Clear 4 stars.

Not 28. There are 15, 16. They are NOT close 3 stars that are close to being 4 stars.

RR RIVALS RANKING 5.7 IS A RIGHT ON BORDERLINE IN BETWEEN 3 AND 4 STAR Ranking number.

SOME OF THE RR 5.7'S ARE LISTED AS LOW END 4 STARS BY ESPN, 247, SCOUT, RIVALS,ETC.

SOME OF THE RR 5.7'S ARE CONSIDERED HIGH END 3 STARS ON ESPN, SCOUT, 247, RIVALS.

RR RIVALS RANKING 5.6 IS CONSIDERED HIGH END 3 STARS CLOSE TO LOW END 4 STARS.

SO IF YOU HAD SAID 15 OR 28 RR 5.6 THAT CLOSE TO BEING 4 STARS, THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN ACCURATE.

I DID NOT SAY THEY WERE RR 5.6.

I SAID 15,16 THAT ARE RR 5.7 THE RANKING NUMBER THAT SOME RECRUITING SERVICES LIKE ESPN, 247, SCOUT, ETC, SAY THAT SOME OF THOSE RR 5.7'S ARE 4 STARS.

BASICALLY LIKE I SAID BEFORE RR 5.7'S ARE BOTH RIGHTLY CALLED 4 STARS, BY RECRUITING SERVICES, ETC, AND 3 STARS, BECAUSE RR 5.7 IS RIGHT ON BORDERLINE, IN BETWEEN RR 5.6(HIGH END 3 STAR), AND 5.8(LOW END TO CLEAR 4 STAR)

BECAUSE OF ALL THE ABOVE RR 5.7'S ARE IN FACT BORDERLINE, IN BETWEEN 3,4 STARS THAT ARE TECHNICAL LOW END BORDERLINE 4 STARS.

There are 1,2 players that are like Patrick Utchinski, that were upgraded from 2,3 stars to 4 stars, by the recruiting services ESPN, 247, SCOUT, RIVALS,ETC.

THUS 10 CLEAR 4 STARS + 15,16 RR 5.7 TECHNICAL BORDERLINE LOW END 4 STARS(SOME CONSIDERED 4 STARS BY RECRUITING SERVICES, ESPN, 247, SCOUT, RIVALS, ETC,)+ 1,2 PATRICK UTCHINSKI UPGRADED 4 STARS FROM 2,3 STARS BY RECRUITING SERVICES

EQUALS

37 TECHNICAL 4 STARS

NOW YOU CAN WORK ON YOUR READING COMPREHENSION AND STOP BEING LIKE A IDIOT.

 

[CougEd]

On the heels of a 10-2 season, you're going on and on Ed Naseam over the loss to UW, just as I predicted you and other Waldenesque Coug losers would do. Does Leach have his flaws? Of course he does. But they matter little in the big scheme of things. While you and other Walden/Wulffies leg hump '82, '83, and '85, you ignore WSU's in-conference and overall win/loss record of the past four seasons. You suggest you're a supporter of Cougar athletics and that you're a WSU graduate, but put up proof of either, Eric C. Dickenson of Evergreen Home Loans. Shall I post your cell number so people can question you directly?

BTW what's your point. I said Leach should be coach of the year, that he should get a huge pay raise, and I hope he retires in Pullman. Am I missing something?

 

[Fab5Coug]

No, 9 clear RR 5.8+ 4 stars, listed in Rivals WSU recruiting database. Whats throwing you off is Rodrick Fisher is a Clear 4 star according to SCOUT. Fisher is a 3 star on Rivals. THAT'S 10 Clear 4 stars.

Not 28. There are 15, 16. They are NOT close 3 stars that are close to being 4 stars.

RR RIVALS RANKING 5.7 IS A RIGHT ON BORDERLINE IN BETWEEN 3 AND 4 STAR Ranking number.

SOME OF THE RR 5.7'S ARE LISTED AS LOW END 4 STARS BY ESPN, 247, SCOUT, RIVALS,ETC.

SOME OF THE RR 5.7'S ARE CONSIDERED HIGH END 3 STARS ON ESPN, SCOUT, 247, RIVALS.

RR RIVALS RANKING 5.6 IS CONSIDERED HIGH END 3 STARS CLOSE TO LOW END 4 STARS.

SO IF YOU HAD SAID 15 OR 28 RR 5.6 THAT CLOSE TO BEING 4 STARS, THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN ACCURATE.

I DID NOT SAY THEY WERE RR 5.6.

I SAID 15,16 THAT ARE RR 5.7 THE RANKING NUMBER THAT SOME RECRUITING SERVICES LIKE ESPN, 247, SCOUT, ETC, SAY THAT SOME OF THOSE RR 5.7'S ARE 4 STARS.

BASICALLY LIKE I SAID BEFORE RR 5.7'S ARE BOTH RIGHTLY CALLED 4 STARS, BY RECRUITING SERVICES, ETC, AND 3 STARS, BECAUSE RR 5.7 IS RIGHT ON BORDERLINE, IN BETWEEN RR 5.6(HIGH END 3 STAR), AND 5.8(LOW END TO CLEAR 4 STAR)

BECAUSE OF ALL THE ABOVE RR 5.7'S ARE IN FACT BORDERLINE, IN BETWEEN 3,4 STARS THAT ARE TECHNICAL LOW END BORDERLINE 4 STARS.

There are 1,2 players that are like Patrick Utchinski, that were upgraded from 2,3 stars to 4 stars, by the recruiting services ESPN, 247, SCOUT, RIVALS,ETC.

THUS 10 CLEAR 4 STARS + 15,16 RR 5.7 TECHNICAL BORDERLINE LOW END 4 STARS(SOME CONSIDERED 4 STARS BY RECRUITING SERVICES, ESPN, 247, SCOUT, RIVALS, ETC,)+ 1,2 PATRICK UTCHINSKI UPGRADED 4 STARS FROM 2,3 STARS BY RECRUITING SERVICES

EQUALS

37 TECHNICAL 4 STARS

NOW YOU CAN WORK ON YOUR READING COMPREHENSION AND STOP BEING LIKE A IDIOT.

Reading comprehension.

Yea, that must be it.

 

[Flatlandcoug]

No, 9 clear RR 5.8+ 4 stars, listed in Rivals WSU recruiting database. Whats throwing you off is Rodrick Fisher is a Clear 4 star according to SCOUT. Fisher is a 3 star on Rivals. THAT'S 10 Clear 4 stars.

Not 28. There are 15, 16. They are NOT close 3 stars that are close to being 4 stars.

RR RIVALS RANKING 5.7 IS A RIGHT ON BORDERLINE IN BETWEEN 3 AND 4 STAR Ranking number.

SOME OF THE RR 5.7'S ARE LISTED AS LOW END 4 STARS BY ESPN, 247, SCOUT, RIVALS,ETC.

SOME OF THE RR 5.7'S ARE CONSIDERED HIGH END 3 STARS ON ESPN, SCOUT, 247, RIVALS.

RR RIVALS RANKING 5.6 IS CONSIDERED HIGH END 3 STARS CLOSE TO LOW END 4 STARS.

SO IF YOU HAD SAID 15 OR 28 RR 5.6 THAT CLOSE TO BEING 4 STARS, THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN ACCURATE.

I DID NOT SAY THEY WERE RR 5.6.

I SAID 15,16 THAT ARE RR 5.7 THE RANKING NUMBER THAT SOME RECRUITING SERVICES LIKE ESPN, 247, SCOUT, ETC, SAY THAT SOME OF THOSE RR 5.7'S ARE 4 STARS.

BASICALLY LIKE I SAID BEFORE RR 5.7'S ARE BOTH RIGHTLY CALLED 4 STARS, BY RECRUITING SERVICES, ETC, AND 3 STARS, BECAUSE RR 5.7 IS RIGHT ON BORDERLINE, IN BETWEEN RR 5.6(HIGH END 3 STAR), AND 5.8(LOW END TO CLEAR 4 STAR)

BECAUSE OF ALL THE ABOVE RR 5.7'S ARE IN FACT BORDERLINE, IN BETWEEN 3,4 STARS THAT ARE TECHNICAL LOW END BORDERLINE 4 STARS.

There are 1,2 players that are like Patrick Utchinski, that were upgraded from 2,3 stars to 4 stars, by the recruiting services ESPN, 247, SCOUT, RIVALS,ETC.

THUS 10 CLEAR 4 STARS + 15,16 RR 5.7 TECHNICAL BORDERLINE LOW END 4 STARS(SOME CONSIDERED 4 STARS BY RECRUITING SERVICES, ESPN, 247, SCOUT, RIVALS, ETC,)+ 1,2 PATRICK UTCHINSKI UPGRADED 4 STARS FROM 2,3 STARS BY RECRUITING SERVICES

EQUALS

37 TECHNICAL 4 STARS

NOW YOU CAN WORK ON YOUR READING COMPREHENSION AND STOP BEING LIKE A IDIOT.

FWIW, the whole stars thing is a bunch of crap to some degree anyway. I don't see what you think it brings to the table for you to bestow 4 star status on guys that weren't listed as 4 stars anywhere else.....borderline or not. By your logic, I'm sure that everyone else has a lot more 4 star athletes too......so what's the point?

 

[chipdouglas]

WORK ON YOUR READING COMPREHENSION AND STOP BEING LIKE A IDIOT.

 

[mikalalas]

FWIW, the whole stars thing is a bunch of crap to some degree anyway. I don't see what you think it brings to the table for you to bestow 4 star status on guys that weren't listed as 4 stars anywhere else.....borderline or not. By your logic, I'm sure that everyone else has a lot more 4 star athletes too......so what's the point?

I am NOT the one who is saying RR Rivals Ranking 5.7's are LOW end 4 stars.

RECRUITING SERVICES LIKE ESPN, 247, SCOUT, RIVALS, ETC, ARE SAYING THAT, NOT ME.

Just because a recruit is RR 5.7 does not mean that ALL RR 5.7's are 3 stars, does not mean ALL RR 5.7's are 4 stars.

SOME, MOST RR 5.7's ARE BORDERLINE IN BETWEEN TECHNICAL LOW END 4 STARS.

Now I could put which RR 5.7's are 4 stars, by which, what specific recruit services, and which RR 5.7's are 3 stars by which, what recruiting services.

But I am not going to do that.

It's just simpler, easier, and almost as accurate to say that since RR 5.7 is a BORDERLINE IN BETWEEN RR 5.6, A HIGH END 3 STAR, AND RR 5.8, A LOW END 4 STAR, AND SINCE BETWEEN SOME TO ALMOST MOST RR 5.7'S ARE LOW END 4 STARS, ACCORDING TO SOME RECRUITING SERVICES LIKE ESPN, 247, SCOUT, ETC, THAT RR 5.7's ARE TECHNICAL BORDERLINE, IN BETWEEN, ETC, LOWEST ENDED 4 STARS.

And based on that and the 15, 16 RR 5.7's, and upgraded 4 stars, and the 10 clear 4 stars:

WSU, Leach, has about 37 TECHNICAL 4 STARS.

 

[spongewatch]

On the heels of a 10-2 season, you're going on and on Ed Naseam over the loss to UW, just as I predicted you and other Waldenesque Coug losers would do. Does Leach have his flaws? Of course he does. But they matter little in the big scheme of things. While you and other Walden/Wulffies leg hump '82, '83, and '85, you ignore WSU's in-conference and overall win/loss record of the past four seasons. You suggest you're a supporter of Cougar athletics and that you're a WSU graduate, but put up proof of either, Eric C. Dickenson of Evergreen Home Loans. Shall I post your cell number so people can question you directly?

You sure do like posting other people's private info on here...so why don't you be a man and post your own.

No need to answer because I know.

You don't want everyone to know you are a registered sex offender with multiple restraining orders.

 

[fingerdisco]

SOME, MOST RR 5.7's ARE BORDERLINE IN BETWEEN TECHNICAL LOW END 4 STARS.

... since RR 5.7 is a BORDERLINE IN BETWEEN RR 5.6, A HIGH END 3 STAR, AND RR 5.8, A LOW END 4 STAR, AND SINCE BETWEEN SOME TO ALMOST MOST RR 5.7'S ARE LOW END 4 STARS, ACCORDING TO SOME RECRUITING SERVICES LIKE ESPN, 247, SCOUT, ETC, THAT RR 5.7's ARE TECHNICAL BORDERLINE, IN BETWEEN, ETC, LOWEST ENDED 4 STARS.

This would leave Albert Einstein scratching his head in confusion.

 

[12375CAT]

'19 Big Cats > '19 Sled Dogs

 

[Flatlandcoug]

On the heels of a 10-2 season, you're going on and on Ed Naseam over the loss to UW, just as I predicted you and other Waldenesque Coug losers would do. Does Leach have his flaws? Of course he does. But they matter little in the big scheme of things. While you and other Walden/Wulffies leg hump '82, '83, and '85, you ignore WSU's in-conference and overall win/loss record of the past four seasons. You suggest you're a supporter of Cougar athletics and that you're a WSU graduate, but put up proof of either, Eric C. Dickenson of Evergreen Home Loans. Shall I post your cell number so people can question you directly?

Damn dude! I have you on ignore so I didn't realize that you were pulling the sh!t you did the other day. What kind of punk a$$ b!tch thinks that anyone is impressed by posting someone else's name here as you try to intimidate them? Since you put up ED's name, why don't you post your own name and employer to prove that you aren't some weak a$$ internet bully with no balls?

 

[Coug95man2]

Damn dude! I have you on ignore so I didn't realize that you were pulling the sh!t you did the other day. What kind of punk a$$ b!tch thinks that anyone is impressed by posting someone else's name here as you try to intimidate them? Since you put up ED's name, why don't you post your own name and employer to prove that you aren't some weak a$$ internet bully with no balls?

This is getting to be crap. Come on. I get it that you guys have your beef with each other. But first Yaki, you've gone over the line. Not just once. Please stop. And honestly, if you guys are going to sh!t all over each other and throw it all around in order to try and impress all of us... Keep it to one thread. Morons.