Trump and the Dept. of Education

[Coug90]

I assumed you were appalled by this.

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This is by far the dumbest whataboutism of all time of the Trump cult. On one hand you’ve got a guy who’s admitted on a hot mic he sexually assaults women, was friends and neighbors with Epstein for years, accused of raping a 13 year old with Epstein along with dozens of other accusations, held liable for sexual assault of E Jean, has said numerous gross things about his own daughter including that he’d F her if she wasn’t his daughter (I’m not so sure he didn’t anyways).

On the other hand you’ve got a guy who…has a few pics/videos (he’s been in politics for what 40 years so he’s been on camera 100s of thousands of times) where he looks a bit awkward with some children? Biden has plenty to criticize about his politics but this is just dumb.

You’d have more to stand on if you just said one of the qualities you admire about Trump is his ability to pull ass and you don’t even mind that he probably has F’d kids.

 

[dgibbons]

This is by far the dumbest whataboutism of all time of the Trump cult. On one hand you’ve got a guy who’s admitted on a hot mic he sexually assaults women, was friends and neighbors with Epstein for years, accused of raping a 13 year old with Epstein along with dozens of other accusations, held liable for sexual assault of E Jean, has said numerous gross things about his own daughter including that he’d F her if she wasn’t his daughter (I’m not so sure he didn’t anyways).

On the other hand you’ve got a guy who…has a few pics/videos (he’s been in politics for what 40 years so he’s been on camera 100s of thousands of times) where he looks a bit awkward with some children? Biden has plenty to criticize about his politics but this is just dumb.

You’d have more to stand on if you just said one of the qualities you admire about Trump is his ability to pull ass and you don’t even mind that he probably has F’d kids.

Loyal is the one losing his marbles over kids at a presser, who has no idea that some public school students do in fact wear uniforms, and doesn't know anything about how this impacts K-12, but is totally against it.

What is it that you want here?

 

[dgibbons]

Where education is concerned, we’re going to find that the obstacles are more often local than federal. Attacking DOE isn’t going to solve the problem. More likely, it’ll make it worse by adding uncertainty to authority, process, and enforcement, and by interrupting funding.

Flat was right, the way to do it is look at what the department is doing and eliminating the things that don’t work. Use a scalpel, not a hatchet.

"Using a scalpel" implies that you're lancing a boil or removing a corn. The task seems much larger than that.

 

[Coug90]

Loyal is the one losing his marbles over kids at a presser, who has no idea that some public school students do in fact wear uniforms, and doesn't know anything about how this impacts K-12, but is totally against it.

What is it that you want here?

You know damn well what the point is. Don’t play dumb after being dumb.

 

[dgibbons]

You know damn well what the point is. Don’t play dumb after being dumb.

Dumb like inferring Trump had sex with his daughter? Or dumb like throwing Epstein into a conversation about shuttering the DOE?

 

[Coug90]

Dumb like inferring Trump had sex with his daughter? Or dumb like throwing Epstein into a conversation about shuttering the DOE?

Have you heard what he’s said about his daughter? Would you say that shit about your daughter (or theoretically if you had one)? That’s a helluva lot weirder and gross than appearing to sniff someone’s hair.

 

[dgibbons]

Have you heard what he’s said about his daughter? Would you say that shit about your daughter (or theoretically if you had one)? That’s a helluva lot weirder and gross than appearing to sniff someone’s hair.

Yes I’ve heard. And you didn’t answer either question. Nor was the post directed to you.

 

[Coug90]

Yes I’ve heard. And you didn’t answer either question. Nor was the post directed to you.

Didn’t know that was a rule. I’ll keep that in mind next time you post something dumb.

 

[dgibbons]

Didn’t know that was a rule. I’ll keep that in mind next time you post something dumb.

You should keep it in mind when you post something dumb. Win-win.

 

[COUGinNCW]

The next unknown…yesterday, DOGE made it to the Institute of Museum and Library Services, an agency that provides funding for museums and public libraries around the country. It represents 0.0046% of the federal budget, so is obviously a tremendous source of waste and inefficiency. Their staff is expected to be slashed by half over the weekend, and existing grants may be shut off. Impact is expected to be reduction in access to libraries, particularly digital resources, with the largest impacts in rural areas.

Yet another reduction in access to information in the name of efficiency.

I don’t see this as an issue. People will still be able to information from Twitter which we know is completely factual.





Sarcasm

 

[Loyal Coug1]

I assumed you were appalled by this.

Well no, and exactly what does this have to do with Trump pimping kids over his DOE order? Here's a hint: Nothing

This is by far the dumbest whataboutism of all time of the Trump cult.

You’d have more to stand on if you just said one of the qualities you admire about Trump is his ability to pull ass and you don’t even mind that he probably has F’d kids.

In Gibby's defense, he shows little admiration (jealousy maybe?) about MY superior ability to pull ass.

Loyal is the one losing his marbles over kids at a presser, who has no idea that some public school students do in fact wear uniforms, and doesn't know anything about how this impacts K-12, but is totally against it.

What is it that you want here?

Boy Gibby - you are really fixated on this uniform thing. What a gaping hole in my knowledge base. Let's have a poll. How many WW patrons knew that 18% of public schools require uniforms? And contrary to your remark, I never said I was totally (or even partially) against looking hard at DOE expenditures, etc. Or any agency for that matter. So don't mischaracterize my posts. But things like firing all recent employees, none of whom would have any responsibility for all this waste and fraud, simply because they are easy pickings, is insane, cruel, and just F-ing stupid. And you know it.

Dumb like inferring Trump had sex with his daughter? Or dumb like throwing Epstein into a conversation about shuttering the DOE?

Or throwing a link about Joe Biden's hair sniffing into a conversation about Trump pimping kids in desks out to the world? Sounds about the same to me. Exactly how do those things correlate?

 

[dgibbons]

Well no, and exactly what does this have to do with Trump pimping kids over his DOE order? Here's a hint: Nothing

In Gibby's defense, he shows little admiration (jealousy maybe?) about MY superior ability to pull ass.

Boy Gibby - you are really fixated on this uniform thing. What a gaping hole in my knowledge base. Let's have a poll. How many WW patrons knew that 18% of public schools require uniforms? And contrary to your remark, I never said I was totally (or even partially) against looking hard at DOE expenditures, etc. Or any agency for that matter. So don't mischaracterize my posts. But things like firing all recent employees, none of whom would have any responsibility for all this waste and fraud, simply because they are easy pickings, is insane, cruel, and just F-ing stupid. And you know it.

Or throwing a link about Joe Biden's hair sniffing into a conversation about Trump pimping kids in desks out to the world? Sounds about the same to me. Exactly how do those things correlate?

So, you’re good with Biden pimping and sniffing kids, but kids appearing at a presser with Trump offends you. What does that say about you?

 

[Loyal Coug1]

So, you’re good with Biden pimping and sniffing kids, but kids appearing at a presser with Trump offends you. What does that say about you?

Gawd, get off it. The kids were not "appearing" at a presser. They were sitting in desks pretending to do schoolwork and apparently signing their personal copies of the executive order. Completely staged and orchestrated for TV. Pathetic. That's pimping.

Now, show me Biden "pimping" kids. I don't argue that his sniffing tendencies are odd (so no I am not "good" with it), but those were public appearances. And the parents were right there. A lot of people, me included, like kids. Doesn't make us perverts or pimps.

What does this say about YOU buddy? Let it go and move on.

 

[Coug90]

Well no, and exactly what does this have to do with Trump pimping kids over his DOE order? Here's a hint: Nothing

In Gibby's defense, he shows little admiration (jealousy maybe?) about MY superior ability to pull ass.

Boy Gibby - you are really fixated on this uniform thing. What a gaping hole in my knowledge base. Let's have a poll. How many WW patrons knew that 18% of public schools require uniforms? And contrary to your remark, I never said I was totally (or even partially) against looking hard at DOE expenditures, etc. Or any agency for that matter. So don't mischaracterize my posts. But things like firing all recent employees, none of whom would have any responsibility for all this waste and fraud, simply because they are easy pickings, is insane, cruel, and just F-ing stupid. And you know it.

Or throwing a link about Joe Biden's hair sniffing into a conversation about Trump pimping kids in desks out to the world? Sounds about the same to me. Exactly how do those things correlate?

They don’t. He’s in a cult. The next up that had nothing to do with your post was most certainly Hunters laptop.

 

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[CougPatrol]

The DOE isn’t working. It’s a failed organization. Few people would have argued that point before the election. Why shouldn’t it be eliminated? It would have been bulldozed 20 years ago in the private sector.

I’ve yet to hear a compelling reason for keeping it around.

 

[dgibbons]

Gawd, get off it. The kids were not "appearing" at a presser. They were sitting in desks pretending to do schoolwork and apparently signing their personal copies of the executive order. Completely staged and orchestrated for TV. Pathetic. That's pimping.

Now, show me Biden "pimping" kids. I don't argue that his sniffing tendencies are odd (so no I am not "good" with it), but those were public appearances. And the parents were right there. A lot of people, me included, like kids. Doesn't make us perverts or pimps.

What does this say about YOU buddy? Let it go and move on.

It says that you’re too dense to understand that Biden had arranged to appear as props at a press conference too, but somehow that was different because it was Biden.

 

[dgibbons]

The DOE isn’t working. It’s a failed organization. Few people would have argued that point before the election. Why shouldn’t it be eliminated? It would have been bulldozed 20 years ago in the private sector.

I’ve yet to hear a compelling reason for keeping it around.

But the talking heads on CNN say use a scalpel!?!?!?!

DOE has been in Republican crosshairs since Reagan.

 

[KRUSTYtheCOUG]

Everyone knows that the real scam going on is that Trump, Musk and their cronies want to cut everything down and when there is a demand to replace the lost services....the private sector will happily step in and provide those services at a healthy profit. It may not be cheaper than before....but it will be profitable to the owners of the companies and that's all that really matters in our oligarchic future.

The wet dream of the mean-girls party (GOP) is to privatize most services thereby rendering government unaccountable to the electorate and further weakening our democratic electoral process.

This actually heightens the waste and abuse as these private entities seek profit over service. Taihtsat

 

[dgibbons]

The wet dream of the mean-girls party (GOP) is to privatize most services thereby rendering government unaccountable to the electorate and further weakening our democratic electoral process.

This actually heightens the waste and abuse as these private entities seek profit over service. Taihtsat

OK, comrade.

 

[WillieThePimp]

The wet dream of the mean-girls party (GOP) is to privatize most services thereby rendering government unaccountable to the electorate and further weakening our democratic electoral process.

This actually heightens the waste and abuse as these private entities seek profit over service. Taihtsat

Trump will be minting new oligarchs ala Putin.

 

[WillieThePimp]

OK, comrade.

The irony coming from a Putin apologist.

 

[dgibbons]

The irony coming from a Putin apologist.

Ok, comrade.

 

[95coug]

The DOE isn’t working. It’s a failed organization. Few people would have argued that point before the election. Why shouldn’t it be eliminated? It would have been bulldozed 20 years ago in the private sector.

I’ve yet to hear a compelling reason for keeping it around.

Not working how? Your post is a lot like a GOP talking point, with vague assertions but no details or support.

 

[dgibbons]

Not working how? Your post is a lot like a GOP talking point, with vague assertions but no details or support.

Yours have been left wing talking points.

Test scores have barely risen since 1970 despite 245% spending increase - Washington Examiner

Test scores released today from the Department of Education’s National Assessment of Educational Progress show significant drops in both reading and math among 13-year-olds. The New York Times reports that the “last time math performance was this low for 13-year-olds was in 1990. In reading...

www.washingtonexaminer.com

 

[Observer11]

Yours have been left wing talking points.

Test scores have barely risen since 1970 despite 245% spending increase - Washington Examiner

Test scores released today from the Department of Education’s National Assessment of Educational Progress show significant drops in both reading and math among 13-year-olds. The New York Times reports that the “last time math performance was this low for 13-year-olds was in 1990. In reading...

www.washingtonexaminer.com

I'd argue that test scores may have gone up given that taking tests is now how kids are instructed.

Now, whether they are educated is entirely up for debate.

 

[BSpike76]

Yours have been left wing talking points.

Test scores have barely risen since 1970 despite 245% spending increase - Washington Examiner

Test scores released today from the Department of Education’s National Assessment of Educational Progress show significant drops in both reading and math among 13-year-olds. The New York Times reports that the “last time math performance was this low for 13-year-olds was in 1990. In reading...

www.washingtonexaminer.com

Gee, the purchase power of $1 in 1970 now = $8.19 current .

 

[Loyal Coug1]

It says that you’re too dense to understand that Biden had arranged to appear as props at a press conference too, but somehow that was different because it was Biden.

Ah, Saturday AM insults! Always fun to read. You just can't try to make a point without insulting someone. But your grammar - "Biden had arranged to appear as props". What? Biden cloned himself then he and his clone appeared as props at his own press conference?

OK, one more time then I'm moving on.

First, what does Trump's stage show have to do with Biden? Why did you bring Biden up? Want me to go dig up the "grab 'em by the pussy" newsclip to rebut you? That's about as relevant.

Second, your Biden clip is mostly public appearances, often outside. The more official clips, whatever they are, do not have a half dozen kids sitting at school desks brought in for the show. The kids appear to all be with their parents, standing there. Absolutely not even close.

Finally, if you are OK to pimp your kids out on national TV OK by me. Maybe your wife should bring her special ed class next time. $5 sez the DOE cuts will include special needs funding cuts too.

 

[dgibbons]

Ah, Saturday AM insults! Always fun to read. You just can't try to make a point without insulting someone. But your grammar - "Biden had arranged to appear as props". What? Biden cloned himself then he and his clone appeared as props at his own press conference?

OK, one more time then I'm moving on.

First, what does Trump's stage show have to do with Biden? Why did you bring Biden up? Want me to go dig up the "grab 'em by the pussy" newsclip to rebut you? That's about as relevant.

Second, your Biden clip is mostly public appearances, often outside. The more official clips, whatever they are, do not have a half dozen kids sitting at school desks brought in for the show. The kids appear to all be with their parents, standing there. Absolutely not even close.

Finally, if you are OK to pimp your kids out on national TV OK by me. Maybe your wife should bring her special ed class next time. $5 sez the DOE cuts will include special needs funding cuts too.

You really think those kids appeared spontaneously? Like they sprouted out of the ground in their mother’s arms just as Biden happened by. That would be dense.

Again, you’re good with Biden (and presumably every other President) using kids as props, but have to subject us to tirades when Trump does it. Thanks for that.

 

[dgibbons]

Gee, the purchase power of $1 in 1970 now = $8.19 current .

Great. Do you consider DOE a success?

Feel free to use the data provided:

U.S. Public Education Spending Statistics [2025]: per Pupil + Total

Find out how much the U.S. spends on public education and how the costs break down per student, by state and by level of government.

educationdata.org

Fast Facts: Long-term trends in reading and mathematics achievement (38)

The NCES Fast Facts Tool provides quick answers to many education questions (National Center for Education Statistics). Get answers on Early Childhood Education, Elementary and Secondary Education and Higher Education here.

nces.ed.gov