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We need to confront reality: we have terrible leadership at WSU

Trust me, I am no Walden fan.

I was mildly amused by his genteel old grampa schtick, and he DID stir up a lot of donations as the auctioneer when that was the format at the fund raisers, but he permanently burned his bridge with me after he went scorched earth on the fans who were critical of Wulff. Knowing now what I know about Wulff and his personal story, I understand better why someone would be protective of him, but Wulff had earned the criticism that was directed at him. Further, Walden never offered a mea culpa for his off the rails rant at the fans to my knowledge, so he can remain off the Cougar grid imho.
I dunno...maybe. but without what Walden did here, do we have the success over the next 20 years (2 Rose bowls) and up to even the Leach years? Taihtsat
 
Sold our soul to the networks with the 7pm games.

How many folks over say... 35 want to be driving home to Spokane/ TC at 11pm with a road full of drunks and assholes?

Since the TV contract sucks anyway, stipulate only 1pm kicks and start filling the stands again with 'locals."
This coming year, my wife and I have decided that it might be time to end going to 7:30 starts. They are just not fun. Getting home at 1:00 AM. It totally throws off Sunday. Other schools have the luxury of being able to be at the stadium in 20 mins or so. WSU is unique in that the bulk of the fan base lives hours away. It’s normal for a rural school. But Nov. games that start at night suck. College football was always geared to be played Saturday afternoon, which when I was younger was awesome! Once the networks took over that all became a moot point. I’m just becoming less and less invested in CB and it hurts.
 
Sold our soul to the networks with the 7pm games.

How many folks over say... 35 want to be driving home to Spokane/ TC at 11pm with a road full of drunks and assholes?

Since the TV contract sucks anyway, stipulate only 1pm kicks and start filling the stands again with 'locals."
This became part of why I gave up my season tickets. Too many late starts, especially late in the season when weather is iffy anyway. Can’t stay in Pullman, between the hotel price gouging and whatever is going on at home Sunday morning. The 1-2 AM arrival home and 4-5 hours of sleep really impacts Sunday too. The bus from Pasco was a nice alternative for late games, but then WSU took it over and jacked the price so it was no longer a reasonable option…and then they eliminated it altogether.

To be honest, the late starts are less of an issue for sharing the road with drunks. Not very many head west after late games. I like to have someone about 1/4 mile in front of me to screen for deer and cops, and with the late games there’s often nobody else in sight from the fairgrounds to 395.
 
I dunno...maybe. but without what Walden did here, do we have the success over the next 20 years (2 Rose bowls) and up to even the Leach years? Taihtsat
Oh, good lord. Why revise history and speculate for Jim Walden? The guy slinked out of town before he got fired.
 
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Oh, good lord. Why revise history and speculate for Jim Walden? The guy slinked out of town before he got fired.
Yeah ... i hear you . A guy who had winning seasons in 81(played for the Rose Bowl) 83 had best team in Pac 10 by the end of the season, in 83 and 84 if he had Leach's schedule and not going to Michigan, Ohio State and Tenn he would have been 9-2 and 8-3 in 83 and 84.

He shared a practice field with the intramural program, 1/4 of the season was over before the kids were on campus, stopped the turnstile of coaches, kept WSU relevant when USC wanted us out if the conference and our rivals and USC and UCLA hadnt stepped foot on campus in 25 years plus He could have left when the going was good. He stabilized the program. But I know that has no value inside that AI head of yours
 
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Yeah ... i hear you . A guy who had winning seasons in 81(played for the Rose Bowl) 83 had best team in Pac 10 by the end of the season, in 83 and 84 if he had Leach's schedule and not going to Michigan, Ohio State and Tenn he would have been 9-2 and 8-3 in 83 and 84.

He shared a practice field with the intramural program, 1/4 of the season was over before the kids were on campus, stopped the turnstile of coaches, kept WSU relevant when USC wanted us out if the conference and our rivals and USC and UCLA hadnt stepped foot on campus in 25 years plus He could have left when the going was good. He stabilized the program. But I know that has no value inside that AI head of yours
Career record at WSU 44-52-4, and was trending downhill the last three years.

And maybe if he wasn't a colossal douche bag he wouldn't have gotten himself fired from the radio team. Ifs, buts, candy, nuts.
 
Career record at WSU 44-52-4, and was trending downhill the last three years.

And maybe if he wasn't a colossal douche bag he wouldn't have gotten himself fired from the radio team. Ifs, buts, candy, nuts.
Well Walden was Jake Dickert before Dickert was Dickert. Took the worst situation in college football and kelt them in the conference. What happened to WSU in 2023 was suppose to happen in 1980.

And records.. you know what is strange about that? Sweeney is in the college hall of fame . What was his record at WSU?

Jackie Sherrill was 3-8 at WSU and was offered the second best job in the country.

Warren Powers was 7-4 and got a Big 8 job.

Dennis was .500 and got the number one job in the country and won with Waldens players. A number pick at qb, Utley, Dyko, Broussard, the front four .... but I understand uou would have preferred to be in the WAC in 1983 and uou woukd have been anle to enjoy Utah, BYU etc .
 
Well Walden was Jake Dickert before Dickert was Dickert. Took the worst situation in college football and kelt them in the conference. What happened to WSU in 2023 was suppose to happen in 1980.

And records.. you know what is strange about that? Sweeney is in the college hall of fame . What was his record at WSU?

Jackie Sherrill was 3-8 at WSU and was offered the second best job in the country.

Warren Powers was 7-4 and got a Big 8 job.

Dennis was .500 and got the number one job in the country and won with Waldens players. A number pick at qb, Utley, Dyko, Broussard, the front four .... but I understand uou would have preferred to be in the WAC in 1983 and uou woukd have been anle to enjoy Utah, BYU etc .
Dickert was 23-20.

If you want to talk about other jobs, Walden was 28-57-3 at Iowa State, capping his career with a winless season. Walden didn't win with Walden's players.

Happy Holidays.
 
Dickert was 23-20.

If you want to talk about other jobs, Walden was 28-57-3 at Iowa State, capping his career with a winless season. Walden didn't win with Walden's players.

Happy Holidays.
Oh didnt realize we were talking about his work at Iowa State . Like I said there was a much greater factor than wins and losses and I guess Keith Millard and Erik Howard and the like werent hsi recruits.

Imagine what Leach's record would be if he didnt have the FOB ane worked in the facility Walden and staff worked in. Or going to Ohio State , Michigan and Tennessee instead of Boise, Rutgers, Portland State, Idaho State and Eastern .

Imagine Leach flying or busing to Seattle to okay USC, or busing up to Spokane to play the UW.

Like now, there is way more to won/loss record for the program

I mean even a two dinensional thinker can figure that out.
 
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Oh didnt realize we were talking about his work at Iowa State . Like I said there was a much greater factor than wins and losses and I guess Keith Millard and Erik Howard and the like werent hsi recruits.

Imagine what Leach's record would be if he didnt have the FOB ane worked in the facility Walden and staff worked in. Or going to Ohio State , Michigan and Tennessee instead of Boise, Rutgers, Portland State, Idaho State and Eastern .

Imagine Leach flying or busing to Seattle to okay USC, or busing up to Spokane to play the UW.

Like now, there is way more to won/loss record for the program

I mean even a two dinensional thinker can figure that out.
Well capped, Ed! That was my original point. Dgibs is, well....dgibs. taihtsat
 
Oh didnt realize we were talking about his work at Iowa State . Like I said there was a much greater factor than wins and losses and I guess Keith Millard and Erik Howard and the like werent hsi recruits.

Imagine what Leach's record would be if he didnt have the FOB ane worked in the facility Walden and staff worked in. Or going to Ohio State , Michigan and Tennessee instead of Boise, Rutgers, Portland State, Idaho State and Eastern .

Imagine Leach flying or busing to Seattle to okay USC, or busing up to Spokane to play the UW.

Like now, there is way more to won/loss record for the program

I mean even a two dinensional thinker can figure that out.
You’re all over the place. Less organized than a fart in a hurricane, as usual. Sure, other coaches went on to success after leaving WSU. Walden was not one of those coaches.

You want to grade him on a curve, for what? Nostalgia? You’ve proven you suck up propaganda like a vacuum. Walden has you hook, like and sinker. You and Krusty should crack open the egg nog and talk about the good ole days.
 
Right. Walden was the great table setter. Everyone owes everyone to Walden. That’s why he left town before getting fired.
John Cooper at OSU lost one game a year and was run out of town.

But I get it, when you started grading papers when you were 8 you had full view of what was happening south in Pullman.

I also understand you would rather be in the WAC right now, and before that you enjoyed watching WSU play USC in Seattle or Joe Albi, and UCLA in Joe Albi, and UW in Joe Albi, and you would have preferred that when you got on campus.

I also get you would have hated winning 3 out of four Apple Cups, something we never saw Leach do despite UW being ranked in the top 10 on two of those occasions.

Yes, Walden was going to be run out of town because he told admin and the people of Spokane to step up and they didn't like it. Makes sense now why we are without a conference. It just happened 40 years later than people expected it to.
 
You’re all over the place. Less organized than a fart in a hurricane, as usual. Sure, other coaches went on to success after leaving WSU. Walden was not one of those coaches.

You want to grade him on a curve, for what? Nostalgia? You’ve proven you suck up propaganda like a vacuum. Walden has you hook, like and sinker. You and Krusty should crack open the egg nog and talk about the good ole days.
Nope...I realize the heavy lift he had in comparison to Leach and the important role he played in staving off where we are now. I understand your position...you prefer the WAC.
 
Nope...I realize the heavy lift he had in comparison to Leach and the important role he played in staving off where we are now. I understand your position...you prefer the WAC.
Another post proving that you’re mentally defective.
 
John Cooper at OSU lost one game a year and was run out of town.

But I get it, when you started grading papers when you were 8 you had full view of what was happening south in Pullman.

I also understand you would rather be in the WAC right now, and before that you enjoyed watching WSU play USC in Seattle or Joe Albi, and UCLA in Joe Albi, and UW in Joe Albi, and you would have preferred that when you got on campus.

I also get you would have hated winning 3 out of four Apple Cups, something we never saw Leach do despite UW being ranked in the top 10 on two of those occasions.

Yes, Walden was going to be run out of town because he told admin and the people of Spokane to step up and they didn't like it. Makes sense now why we are without a conference. It just happened 40 years later than people expected it to.
Another post proving you’re a sad sack WSU fan, AND mentally defective. You’d rather beat the huskies and have a one win season, and call it a success because Walden let you ride the moped that ran him over. Walden is a very special coach who gets graded on the CougEd 1980s curve because you’re still wearing parachute pants and a Members Only jacket.

And you’re blowing hot air out your backside on John Cooper’s record. Even with a smartphone in your hand you’re too lazy to look up his record. But of course you think Walden is some kind of superstar. Even on the CougEd curve missing by over 3x is a failing grade.
 
Another post proving you’re a sad sack WSU fan, AND mentally defective. You’d rather beat the huskies and have a one win season, and call it a success because Walden let you ride the moped that ran him over. Walden is a very special coach who gets graded on the CougEd 1980s curve because you’re still wearing parachute pants and a Members Only jacket.

And you’re blowing hot air out your backside on John Cooper’s record. Even with a smartphone in your hand you’re too lazy to look up his record. But of course you think Walden is some kind of superstar.
Blithers .... I get you cant get that brain wrapped around the concept. His importance wasnt about beating the Huskies as he did three times more than Leach, but keeping us out of the WAC . But I understand to you 10-2 in the Wac is better than getting a shot at the Rose Bowl.
 
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I definitely think Walden missed a step or 2 with Wulff, but what he did with/for us was AMAZING.

Walden is forever a Cougar great.
At this rate Walden’s revisionist, CougEd curve, winning percentage will be 150 percent in four or five more posts.
 
Blithers .... I get you cant get that brain wrapped around the concept. His importance wasnt about beating the Huskies as he did three times more than Leach, but keeping us out of the WAC . But I understand to uou 10-2 in the Wac is better than getting a shot at the Rose Bowl.
I get it Ed. No need to repeat yourself. The deity known as Jim Walden single handedly saved WSU from extinction. And Coach Walden told this in person at freshman orientation as you stared longingly at his BIKE brand, 100 percent polyester shorts and butterfly collar WSU shirt, while the boombox was pumping out Endless Love.
 
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