What about playing Oregon State every year at The Clink?

[BleedCrimsonandGray]

I don't know Ed.

Let's get that flashy New IPF up and running before devoting any funds to a 80,000-seat (or whatever has been drawn up) football/international soccer stadium in Kittitas County.

Still not convinced giving up one home game every OTHER year while having six or possibly even seven games in Pullman isn't worth an opportunity to earn an extra $1-2 million annually while playing in the largest WSU-friendly market this side of Spokane-Coeur d"Alene and perhaps the Tri-Cities.

Never find a better time to cut a deal with a friendly rival as OSU is currently bleeding red ink.

Doesn't everyone want the New IPF sooner rather than later?

I don't think it pencils out to what you think it would. Clink is expensive I'm sure, plus we don't pack the place.

 

[CougEd]

Loathe to waste time on this with you, Ed, but no, he seems to be a troll in view of a pattern of posts over the course of several years in which he asks questions designed to explore unflattering topics and lead to responses that make the school, Pullman, our athletic program, our AD, the President, whoever our coach is at the time, and/or our fans look bad, interspersed with enough intermittent "Go Cougs" kinds of stuff and posts with ostensibly genuine motives to fool people like you. The post here is a decent example. There have been many others over the years that are much worse. As I wrote, it gets more brazen when he hasn't been called out on it in a while. He'll likely be brazen now, not only in spite of the call-out but in view of it, knowing that there are guys like you who not only can't figure it out but are questioning it. To address it preemptively, no, I don't lose sleep over this or spend a lot of time burning mental cycles on stuff like this. It's obvious.

Why is a game in Seattle unflattering ? We have done it before ? Is Tron a troll for making the ridiculous suggestion to move the Apple Cup to Ellensburg?

Is Biggs a troll for saying Leach was horrible in 2019 and thinks his recruiting became lazy ?

What is unflattering about exploring the possibility of increasing revenue ? You think it is a secret we have to do more with less ? You think it is a secret we have a smaller budget than most ?

You think it is a secret that we struggle to get top tier players , four star recruits ?

There is more than one way to skin a cat. I take enormous pride in the fact Walden was able to compete with UW and everyone but usc back in the day. I take pride in the fact Leach was able to right the ship and show we can get to bowl games virtually every test . I take pride in the fact Price got to two Rose Bowls.

Anything else you think makes WSU “look bad” is noise . Noise that if I hear it I don’t internalize it .

 

[425cougfan]

Why is a game in Seattle unflattering ? We have done it before ? Is Tron a troll for making the ridiculous suggestion to move the Apple Cup to Ellensburg?

Is Biggs a troll for saying Leach was horrible in 2019 and thinks his recruiting became lazy ?

What is unflattering about exploring the possibility of increasing revenue ? You think it is a secret we have to do more with less ? You think it is a secret we have a smaller budget than most ?

You think it is a secret that we struggle to get top tier players , four star recruits ?

There is more than one way to skin a cat. I take enormous pride in the fact Walden was able to compete with UW and everyone but usc back in the day. I take pride in the fact Leach was able to right the ship and show we can get to bowl games virtually every test . I take pride in the fact Price got to two Rose Bowls.

Anything else you think makes WSU “look bad” is noise . Noise that if I hear it I don’t internalize it .

Ed, seriously, you just don't get it. Last thing I'll write on this for now, since I can't spend all day dealing with you: it's not that any poster here can't bring up any topic that's unflattering. Many topics can be unflattering, and none of this is to suggest a desire to obfuscate anything or not deal with given topics. Many newsworthy and discussion-worthy topics are, by their nature, not positive. That's fine. It's usually fairly clear to me, and should be clear to anyone like you who has been around a while, who is an actual fan of WSU.

What he has been doing is distinguishable in that it appears designed to raise topics for the purpose of getting participants on here to look bad--which results in our fan base looking bad--or to have various characteristics of the school, its location, its administration, coaches, etc. look bad. The way he does this differs from natural broaching of topics in a way designed to foster legitimate discussion. It's "off." Again, this is pretty obvious.

That's it. I don't expect you to get this (or, even if you did, to either be intellectually honest or direct about it), which is just the way it's going to be with someone like you.

 

[CougEd]

Ed, seriously, you just don't get it. Last thing I'll write on this for now, since I can't spend all day dealing with you: it's not that any poster here can't bring up any topic that's unflattering. Many topics can be unflattering, and none of this is to suggest a desire to obfuscate anything or not deal with given topics. Many newsworthy and discussion-worthy topics are, by their nature, not positive. That's fine. It's usually fairly clear to me, and should be clear to anyone like you who has been around a while, who is an actual fan of WSU.

What he has been doing is distinguishable in that it appears designed to raise topics for the purpose of getting participants on here to look bad--which results in our fan base looking bad--or to have various characteristics of the school, its location, its administration, coaches, etc. look bad. The way he does this differs from natural broaching of topics in a way designed to foster legitimate discussion. It's "off." Again, this is pretty obvious.

That's it. I don't expect you to get this (or, even if you did, to either be intellectually honest or direct about it), which is just the way it's going to be with someone like you.

Of course I don’t get it . You can’t point out to me what in this post "makes us look bad". We had this game in Seattle before . Again, even if he was a troll what is so offensive about this versus having the apple cup in Ellensburg..

 

[79COUG]

Six years since Mr. Moos massively upgraded his alma mater's athletics facilities and pulled the plug on Seattle after 11 games between 2002 and 2014.

Would you be open to returning as part of a long-term deal with the Beavers where the game is anchored at the Seahawks stadium similar to Oklahoma-Texas in Dallas, Florida-Georgia in Jacksonville and Arkansas-Texas A&M in Arlington?

WSU can easily guarantee six games every fall in Pullman with the current 9-game conference schedule format.

Why not play the "Emerald City Showdown" every year — and instead of an uninspiring non-conference match-up — have WSU and OSU square off in one of the West Coast's more underrated rivalries?

This could really turn into something great and also be a revenue generator,

Dry Side and Wet Side Cougs, what do you think?

Popcorn guy approves.

The rest of us?
Nope.

 

[Wazzubrooz]

The Seattle games always suck and in no way replicate the fun environment of WSU campus and Pullman...... Never again!

 

[CougEd]

Ed, seriously, you just don't get it. Last thing I'll write on this for now, since I can't spend all day dealing with you: it's not that any poster here can't bring up any topic that's unflattering. Many topics can be unflattering, and none of this is to suggest a desire to obfuscate anything or not deal with given topics. Many newsworthy and discussion-worthy topics are, by their nature, not positive. That's fine. It's usually fairly clear to me, and should be clear to anyone like you who has been around a while, who is an actual fan of WSU.

What he has been doing is distinguishable in that it appears designed to raise topics for the purpose of getting participants on here to look bad--which results in our fan base looking bad--or to have various characteristics of the school, its location, its administration, coaches, etc. look bad. The way he does this differs from natural broaching of topics in a way designed to foster legitimate discussion. It's "off." Again, this is pretty obvious.

That's it. I don't expect you to get this (or, even if you did, to either be intellectually honest or direct about it), which is just the way it's going to be with someone like you.

And so when he called me out thinking I was being harsh on Leach and trying to crap on his legacy, was that just to throw you and others off the scent of being a Husky troll?

 

[Coug90]

Popcorn guy approves.

The rest of us?
Nope.

I’d give it a chance again considering the Seattle game was played during one of the worst times in our programs history, which to me led more to the beat downs than the fact that it was in Seattle. Couple of things would need to be looked into

1. total revenue not just Tix. Revenue lost for Pullman and WSU outside of ticket sales by “losing” a home game.
2. The effect on the fair weather fan by having the Seattle game. Does it cannibalize ticket sales for Pullman games anyways? (The fan that goes to the Seattle game and just says...welp, There’s my Coug game for the year! When that fan would have found a way to get to Pullman once if there was no Seattle game)
3. What advantage is gained in connection with the city by having a game there. Getting alumni to be involved, recruiting, business connections, etc. The thing I did like about the Seattle game was the week leading up to it. Cougs meeting cougs events and the such. Hard to quantify the impact of this but I feel like Chun could do it a helluva lot better than Moos did.

 

[425cougfan]

To the point, I'm good with a Seattle game every 3 or 4 years as an event and draw. It should be a nonconference game in September when the weather is nice in Seattle and attendance might be pretty light in Pullman ... e.g., what otherwise would be a back-to-back home game in Pullman against a mediocre opponent. Every 3 or 4 years still is frequent enough to draw in the crowd who never would go to Pullman anyway, or might be looking for an excuse to reconnect, without losing novelty or allowing a pretty big group of alumni to use it as an excuse to never make it over to Pullman. There should be a healthy dose of events in Seattle in connection with the game, too.

 

[spongeworthy12]

Loathe to waste time on this with you, Ed, but no, he seems to be a troll in view of a pattern of posts over the course of several years in which he asks questions designed to explore unflattering topics and lead to responses that make the school, Pullman, our athletic program, our AD, the President, whoever our coach is at the time, and/or our fans look bad, interspersed with enough intermittent "Go Cougs" kinds of stuff and posts with ostensibly genuine motives to fool people like you. The post here is a decent example. There have been many others over the years that are much worse. As I wrote, it gets more brazen when he hasn't been called out on it in a while. He'll likely be brazen now, not only in spite of the call-out but in view of it, knowing that there are guys like you who not only can't figure it out but are questioning it. To address it preemptively, no, I don't lose sleep over this or spend a lot of time burning mental cycles on stuff like this. It's obvious.

Paranoid much?

You're reading way too much into things.

 

[425cougfan]

Paranoid much?

You're reading way too much into things.

Pardon me if I won't consider you or your brother as arbiters of the proper type or extent of observation / analysis. This isn't certain but there's a high likelihood based on posts and their pattern, and I'm not alone in seeing it. It's not the biggest deal but I'll call it out as warranted.

 

[Ffffws]

based on recent events and leadership decisions, stay the H*** away from Seattle.

 

[spongeworthy12]

based on recent events and leadership decisions, stay the H*** away from Seattle.

Seattle is a shithole.

 

[kougkurt]

I wonder if this CHOP CHAZ stuff will hurt recruiting. The last place I would want to be is in Seattle.

 

[etowncoug]

I wonder if this CHOP CHAZ stuff will hurt recruiting. The last place I would want to be is in Seattle.

It's the duty of P12 coaches to remind recruits about the shootings/muggings taking place on the daily in Seattle. Recruits need this information in order to make an informed decision.