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For me: still employed (happily) with a MegaCorp, still hammering checks, and no clear/present risk of that changing. Working from home - but next to a toddler's room, and with wife working in another room, so environment is full of productivity-killing distractions. Work has seriously slowed down even though we can't keep our products on the shelves of the grocery stores we support.

My city (Denver) just basically put everyone on house arrest yesterday, ex grocery/drugstore runs. Everyday there is at best mixed news, and at worst bad news, so it's hard to imagine we will be back in the office before May at the very earliest. I just don't see a scenario where there is widespread approval of that, especially with liability-averse MegaCorps. Don't know how long people will survive house arrest, especially those with young kids with kid energy.

I have heard from friends/family whose employers released them to work from home WAY later than mine and were generally reluctant. Any tales here?
 
I’m a semi retired educator in Manson. I have been delivering sack lunches and breakfasts to students for the past week and foreseeable future.
A good time to be in education I guess.
 
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For me: still employed (happily) with a MegaCorp, still hammering checks, and no clear/present risk of that changing. Working from home - but next to a toddler's room, and with wife working in another room, so environment is full of productivity-killing distractions. Work has seriously slowed down even though we can't keep our products on the shelves of the grocery stores we support.

My city (Denver) just basically put everyone on house arrest yesterday, ex grocery/drugstore runs. Everyday there is at best mixed news, and at worst bad news, so it's hard to imagine we will be back in the office before May at the very earliest. I just don't see a scenario where there is widespread approval of that, especially with liability-averse MegaCorps. Don't know how long people will survive house arrest, especially those with young kids with kid energy.

I have heard from friends/family whose employers released them to work from home WAY later than mine and were generally reluctant. Any tales here?
I have in-laws that were told that they "probably" had COVID19, but because they were recovering they wouldn't give them a test to see if they actually had SARS-CoV-2. We haven't seen them any time recently because they were out of country, but it really struck home for us.

I'm an essential worker as I sell into the food industry, and we gotta keep people fed. My wife is working for the time being, but her client base is being affected big-time by all the business closures, so we're not sure how much longer they'll keep paying her salary.

I'm blessed that we can afford to live off of my income should that happen, and we have some breathing room financially.

Lastly, having a 12 going on 13 year old who refuses to do any school work is truly testing our patience as parents. We're being super lax on what he actually has to do and he's still acting like a jerk about it. And we have 5 more weeks of this... kill me now.
 
Not allowed to stay home and work from home. Was told today no time off for the next couple months. I work at a hospital, so that is understandable. I believe we are in for a rough couple months at a minimum. Once businesses are allowed to return I am hoping the closures will not permanently impact small business owners who work with a small margin in the best of times.
 
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Custom manufacturing small business owner. We use JIT raw material inventorying & supply chain issues are a problem. Materials scheduled to arrive last week didn't. Haven't yet this week either. Only a matter of time before customers get frustrated.

Thanks for letting me whine.
 
Supply chain is in the toilet right now regardless of what business you are in. Sorry to hear about others in the same boat. There is a real cost to focusing industry on PPE only right now, but it is a voice in the wilderness.
 
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Don’t just assume you’ve got to close. Lots of exceptions.
https://www.coronavirus.wa.gov/whats-open-and-closed/essential-business

Correct, inslees directive has zero teeth. If you need to stay open to sustain your business, do what you need to do.

I've had many chats with business owners the last 12 hours and the responses have ran the gambit. From, I dont take direction from the Gov, to we are closing and paying our people for the 2 weeks...my take in this has swayed over time and am hoping this 2 week directive will change the Vs course...but I dont think we as a community, state and country can sustain it much longer than that. Working from home by yourself is great until you add your significant other, your kids and home schooling to the mix...not much work is getting done under these circumstances, for anyone.
 
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This is true, you may not have to close. What I am stating is that the automatic decrease in. Regular business will close small margin businesses and then furloughed becomes unemployed. Shortly this will become a real and serious issue. We are not talking about it now very much, but that will be changing as the political world moves forward. And someone will need to pay for all-of whatever recovery plan we have. Taxing those who have nothing to give is a recession or depression waiting to happen.
 
Very true MRI, even if you can stay open, it doesnt mean that you will have customers/clients to serve. It really is a tough situation, for all.

Again, not something we can sustain much more than a couple more weeks...in my opinion.
 
Got laid off on Monday morning. I'm in printing sales. 32 years in the industry. First time anything close to this has happened.
 
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Blah, sorry 79. I hope things work out for you and your family.
Thanks. I understand the companies position. If there's no one to sell to you can't pay a person for doing nothing.
I'll get by.
 
For me: still employed (happily) with a MegaCorp, still hammering checks, and no clear/present risk of that changing. Working from home - but next to a toddler's room, and with wife working in another room, so environment is full of productivity-killing distractions. Work has seriously slowed down even though we can't keep our products on the shelves of the grocery stores we support.

My city (Denver) just basically put everyone on house arrest yesterday, ex grocery/drugstore runs. Everyday there is at best mixed news, and at worst bad news, so it's hard to imagine we will be back in the office before May at the very earliest. I just don't see a scenario where there is widespread approval of that, especially with liability-averse MegaCorps. Don't know how long people will survive house arrest, especially those with young kids with kid energy.

I have heard from friends/family whose employers released them to work from home WAY later than mine and were generally reluctant. Any tales here?
I’m fortunate. With a F500 tech company very financially conservative, we will ride this out and be in an good position once this passes.

my wife’s company just laid off or furloughed 80% of their workforce including her. She was thinking about leaving anyways and already has something lined up.
 
I've been told that I can work at home if I want to but I can go to work if I choose. I work for an engineering firm and we are involved in infrastructure construction, so we are working under the assumption that we are a "essential business". I've been told that if we run out of work locally, we have other offices that need our help to catch up on their backlog. Hope we don't need to do that, but I'll do what I need to. My wife is an RN and is obviously in no danger of losing her job.

Unfortunately, my sister lost her "second" job a couple weeks back and was told today that her contract with her current employer is being terminated in 30 days. She lives in a house that I bought for my parents to live in before they passed away so it looks like I'll get to to start paying more of that mortgage before too long. The good news is that I just got my tax return back. That'll let us help her for a few months without too much impact. Sucks but it's better than what a lot of folks have to deal with.

Condolences to 79Coug.....hope that things turn quickly and it ends up being an opportunity for something better in the near future.
 
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Working, getting paid, but have to work on-site. Wife is work from home most of the time anyway, but she's been battling a suite of respiratory issues before this came around. If things get anything like as dicey as they are back in the US of A, I'm taking some leave because she's like a full overlap Venn diagram for the risk factors. I have over 3 months of it piled up if things get really hairy.
 
Not Currently Employed BUT:

1. I was working as the owner of a very small DJ business, that trying to get going.

2. I renewed my NAC(Nursing Assistant Certified), Knocking some minor rust of by reviewing textbook, videos, etc, for a interview the Hospital had scheduled with me. They said they were interested in see if they wanted to hire me as a Substitute, since I had never done graveyard, and only done 7 am to 2:45 pm, to 2pm to 10 pm shifts, and since a dayshift wouldnt be available for a lot of months. A sub usually cant be rusty, like how a dayshifter can get the rust off while working. So I asked if I could knock the rist off first, via the textbooks, videos, etc, then interview in 20 to 80 days. They agreed to that. Then the Corona Virus hit. Also with my baby girl screaming seemingly 24 hours a day, knocking the rust off hasnt been easy, has been harder, and taken longer then planned, thought.

Then I got a new idea, plan, a friend of my wife is a NAC, and is self employed doing NAC in home visits to those who need her services, such as those who dont want to be in a nursing home, assisted living, in home care company, etc.

So I am going to try that too. Especially now. With the Corona Virus being a bigger risk in nursing homes, etc, I will be a great service to those who want to minimize their corona Virus risk, by having me provide in home care to them, instead of them going from the country to facilities in the city where they at higher risk of Corona Virus.

All I need to do is advertise myself. Get a stethescope, manual bloodpressure checking cuff, a O2 Sats device to monitor oxygen levels in the blood, in order to perform basic Vital Signs when needed. Also need a Gait Belt, but have that already. And need my NAC job cloths, but also have that.

Only thing, is I dont know how much I should charge. I know NAC's typically make about $13 per hour. So I thought I would charge about $75 per halfday, halfshift, part time etc, $150 for full 8 hour shift day, and $200 for overtime, and $250 if have to stay overnight. Or I charge $17 a hour, only $4 a hour higher then the average $13 a hour. I think thats fair since I am doing in home care instead of them going to a facility, and since they are getting 1 to 1 care, 100% time, with no wait time factor(Usually at a facility, have to wait for care, and get many different NAC's instead of 1 NAC.) Also they ate paying more to the facility, with some of the money(13 a hour to the NAC), to the NAC, and the bulk of the money to the facility.

If did this 4 full time days a week, or 6 part time hour days a week, or 3 full time days, 3 part time days, per week, the average would be about $550 a week, about $2750 a month, $33k a year.

But maybe I would be charging either too little or too much. So do any of you know what I should charge?

Also I was thinking of taking 3 to 9 months and taking completing prerequisites, at SCC in Spokane, then taking the TEAS Test, then spending 12 to 15 more months getting my LPN certificate, then taking the NCLEX LPN National Federal LPN License, certificate exam. I could do that while I did the in home NAC thing part time, and if I qualified for Financial Aid.

So unemployed for now, but do have a plan, idea, etc.

PS the going to SCC to become a LPN, would have to wait until AFTER the Corona Virus threat.
 
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I make and sell metal art. I work trade shows, sportsman shows, state fairs, county fairs, etc.

My shop is in Central Washington on my folks property. I live just outside Austin, TX. It made no sense to spend the money on commercial real estate here so I took over my father's shop. He is 85 so it has been nice to spend some time with him.

I had just cut and cleaned about $35,000 in retail product for the Austin Rodeo. I drove home, had the product unloaded into my booth, hung 4 panels of grid wall... then I checked my email. Event canceled. I would average $1000 ~ $2000 in sales per day. The rodeo was 15 days long. So you do the math on how much revenue I lost.

I called a promoter friend and had another event that same weekend and did well. So not in a financial crunch. If it comes to that I will list on FB marketplace around the country and on my business' FB page.

Before this I sold tactical and survival packs, duffles, range bags and rifle cases. Did well with it. Actually sold over a million dollars of them in 6 years. So I am locked, stocked, loaded for any and all comers. Plague, thieves, wild boar, whatever.

If you have questions about preparing your home and family, please ask.

If you wanna buy some metal art, I can get you my FB page.
 
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Best of luck to you, Biggs. I'm bugging out today after I pick up my last paycheck. Girlfriend lives north of Spokane. She's a bit of a prepper (retired AF) so we too are ready for whatever this brings. My only concern is for my daughter. She lives in Odessa with her mom and step-dad. Senior year in high school so she's naturally pretty bummed over the whole thing. Registered for fall at WSU. Even that is up in the air now.
Again, best of luck to you.
 
Best of luck to you, Biggs. I'm bugging out today after I pick up my last paycheck. Girlfriend lives north of Spokane. She's a bit of a prepper (retired AF) so we too are ready for whatever this brings. My only concern is for my daughter. She lives in Odessa with her mom and step-dad. Senior year in high school so she's naturally pretty bummed over the whole thing. Registered for fall at WSU. Even that is up in the air now.
Again, best of luck to you.

Thanks man. Best of luck to you too.
 
I work for WSDA and am considered an essential employee so we have at least a steady income coming in. The bad thing is my wife just started a new job last week and as of Monday they are shut down. Still we have my income so we will get by.
 
Still working. Tabbed as essential, unless JI changes the rules again. Might reduce hours in the office somewhat next week, but that remains to be seen. To be honest, with the small number of people at work, I think I've got less exposure here than I do at home. My wife is home with the kids, so childcare isn't an issue at this point, and as of this morning there's zero chance she's going back for another 2 weeks. She's still getting paid though, and I have about 2 months worth of vacation and sick time accumulated that would get paid out in the unlikely event I got laid off, and we've got enough savings to float for a couple months past that. So I'm not terribly concerned about expenses at this point.

My bigger concern is the surrounding world. Supply chain issues, particularly surrounding food and basic necessities. The more people have trouble finding food, the more they'll go looking for it in places they think might have it. And, there's always the segment of the population that goes looking to take whatever they want whenever police and emergency services are stretched thin.
 
I work in healthcare; we're are gowned up and meeting people in the parking lot, taking histories from six feet away (silly, arbitrary number).

Meanwhile, the flippin' pot shop down the road is an "essential" business according to Governor Dillweed; people in and out, no precautions, just "muh weed" types ignoring reality. The government of this state needs to be nuked...
 
I never did answer the question.

We own a small business, that most of the work can happen remotely, albeit at much less efficiency. Our billings will be down, but nothing earth shattering. My wife's company has shut down and is paying employees for at least 2 weeks. Further analysis will be made as the end of the two-week shut down approaches.

$-wise, we will be just fine. Sanity wise...not so sure. We have 3 kids, 2 of them are in school. Their teachers are kicking butt providing daily lesson plans and work for us to teach, but it takes a sh*t load of time to walk through it and then teach it. The wife and I are splitting time between a.m. and p.m. shifts as teacher and working the opposite, which isn't provided enough time to get work done. That being said, it is pretty fun to teach your kids, frustrating as heck at times for both teacher and pupil though!
 
I never did answer the question.

We own a small business, that most of the work can happen remotely, albeit at much less efficiency. Our billings will be down, but nothing earth shattering. My wife's company has shut down and is paying employees for at least 2 weeks. Further analysis will be made as the end of the two-week shut down approaches.

$-wise, we will be just fine. Sanity wise...not so sure. We have 3 kids, 2 of them are in school. Their teachers are kicking butt providing daily lesson plans and work for us to teach, but it takes a sh*t load of time to walk through it and then teach it. The wife and I are splitting time between a.m. and p.m. shifts as teacher and working the opposite, which isn't provided enough time to get work done. That being said, it is pretty fun to teach your kids, frustrating as heck at times for both teacher and pupil though!

I wish we had some structured plan for our kids. Our WA/ Clark Co teachers are sending out links to the zoo and other generic online resources for our kids to play on the computer for 6 hours a day, then they want to go play video games. Nothing, and I mean zilch, as far as something specific or structured. After the last labor stoppage and contracts that started them at $55k (with all the other benefits/ perks - retirement, etc), with most of them earning in the $80k plus range, I AM FREAKING IRATE that they are all just taking a nice little vacay. If you saw the amount I pay on my property taxes for schools, it is bonkers to think that they can't stream a video or something, ANYTHING.
 
Frustrating for sure. Our school district put out something that forbids teachers from teaching due to equity discrepancies...

Our kids are in private school and teachers are still teaching, which is great, though difficult to keep up.
 
I wish we had some structured plan for our kids. Our WA/ Clark Co teachers are sending out links to the zoo and other generic online resources for our kids to play on the computer for 6 hours a day, then they want to go play video games. Nothing, and I mean zilch, as far as something specific or structured. After the last labor stoppage and contracts that started them at $55k (with all the other benefits/ perks - retirement, etc), with most of them earning in the $80k plus range, I AM FREAKING IRATE that they are all just taking a nice little vacay. If you saw the amount I pay on my property taxes for schools, it is bonkers to think that they can't stream a video or something, ANYTHING.
Send them to private school if you think you're getting a bad deal
 
Frustrating for sure. Our school district put out something that forbids teachers from teaching due to equity discrepancies...

Our kids are in private school and teachers are still teaching, which is great, though difficult to keep up.
Our school did the same. Lessons can't go 100% online, because some kids might not have computers (or even homes) so it's not fair to them. So instead teachers are putting together weekly homework packets, and parents have to come to the school every monday to pick them up. Not that that causes "gatherings" or anything like that.
 
Frustrating for sure. Our school district put out something that forbids teachers from teaching due to equity discrepancies...

Our kids are in private school and teachers are still teaching, which is great, though difficult to keep up.

Yea, it’s a small percentage but like 2%-3% of kids in districts don’t have access to computers or internet so it would be considered inequitable if they went to online learning. Also, some districts don’t even have technology that they can loan kids. It’s shocking but true. It’s not ideal for anybody. OSPI came out and said that teachers have to start proving instruction next Monday. No clue how that’ll look.
 
I wish we had some structured plan for our kids. Our WA/ Clark Co teachers are sending out links to the zoo and other generic online resources for our kids to play on the computer for 6 hours a day, then they want to go play video games. Nothing, and I mean zilch, as far as something specific or structured. After the last labor stoppage and contracts that started them at $55k (with all the other benefits/ perks - retirement, etc), with most of them earning in the $80k plus range, I AM FREAKING IRATE that they are all just taking a nice little vacay. If you saw the amount I pay on my property taxes for schools, it is bonkers to think that they can't stream a video or something, ANYTHING.
This crisis has highlighted many absurd compensation practices. I'm with you on "can I have a break on my property taxes for services not rendered," but my wife and I were in a organized bike ride in Utah which was canceled. The organizers reached out, suggesting they "may" be able to offer "partial refunds," pointing to such provisions in the contract. I'm not an attorney, but it seems like it would be legally indefensible to pocket money people gave you for a service you never provided. And I'm seeing examples like this all over the place, of providers of goods and services just keeping money for services not rendered.
 
only if mine get refunded for the kids I don't have
He wants credit for services not provided, insofar as his kids' education has been completely outsourced to him (his claim).

In your example, the services are being rendered whether you are using them or not.
 
Quite the situation in that I could argue, my family is actually paying for "services" 3 times. Property taxes and public schools, tuition to private school AND our time teaching what we've paid for twice. It's all good for now, as long as it doesn't last too much longer :)
 
First to anybody who has lost or soon will lose their income, best of luck.

I have worked form home for a little over 4 years now and I work for a major internet retailer based out of Seattle, I'm far from essential (IMO) but business as usual for me.

Now my side hustle, driving lyft is a no go for now (I live in PHX) since the demand is nill and I'd rather leave the income to those who need it--i only do it to put dollars into my vacation account.
 
I'm an Agent in residential real estate in the Seattle, specifically on the Eastside, serving all three counties, King, Snohomish and Pierce. Non essential, as we are shut down from showing any properties, listings, etc. I personally believe America will be back to work again soon, sometime in April. I don't think the government will allow the United States of America to be devastated.
 
I'm an Agent in residential real estate in the Seattle, specifically on the Eastside, serving all three counties, King, Snohomish and Pierce. Non essential, as we are shut down from showing any properties, listings, etc. I personally believe America will be back to work again soon, sometime in April. I don't think the government will allow the United States of America to be devastated.

Oh, no...they will. As long as it doesn’t cost them money personally. The rollback of environmental regulations, ignorance of climate change, slow action on pandemic response, etc. virtually guarantee that we‘ll be devastated in the long term.
 
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Oh, no...they will. As long as it doesn’t cost them money personally. The rollback of environmental regulations, ignorance of climate change, slow action on pandemic response, etc. virtually guarantee that we‘ll be devastated in the long term.
The US is a time bomb. The country is too big and the population too unwieldy to handle something l like this now that community transmission is on the loose. WA/CA/NY might get their situation back down to manageable only to have a place like FL or LA or ID without testing or controls blow up and reinfect places that had calmed down. There will be rolling flare-ups all over, and only a massive ramp up in temporary health infrastructure will slow it down. I don't think it's going to be 1918, but it's going to be bad. The time to shut down hard was a month ago if you want to reopen quickly. That's passed now. This is going to be on ongoing problem for 18 months or so. I hope I'm wrong, but I don't think I am. Imagine Italy in a country the size of a continent that doesn't want to shut down fully. The only thing saving Australia from a similar fate is more aggressive early testing and being on the ass end of the world surrounded by water
 
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Well my work situation is extraordinarily good at unfortunate times like this.

I work managing assets working with our quants department for a private equity firm that specializes in flipping "distressed assets".

Basically we are Vulture Capitalists, and right now we are doing insanely well and unfortunately that is not a sign of things going well in the world.

Basically since this whole thing hit we've been evaluating and acquiring positions all over the place.

There's an Oil price war going on making Shale positions quite lucrative, there are massive opportunities for us in transportation/hospitality/logistics.

It's insane, we haven't seen anything like this since the 2008 crash.

Fortunately we can all work at home (and I do quite a bit as is), but I am incredibly worried about the U.S. economy right now, while my firm is set to rake in an incredible amount of cash real people are hurting and suffering and it hurts to watch. It's the small business owners and independent contractors, and everyday workers that I feel for.

These asshole executives we are dragging over the coals I could care less about. But the everyday individuals, the elderly, students just starting out trying to find their footing I am REALLY concerned about.

On a micro scale things really will take a while to get going again, but I'm afraid on a macro scale things will not be the same for a LONG time.

Right now we actually are looking to expand our position in the UK because all I am going to say is the S H I T is going to hit the fan there like NOBODY has ever seen before.

I could go in depth into why our ears and eyes have perked up in that area, but I to make is succinct, there are A LOT of fundamental problems in England from the way they handled the pandemic, to Brexit, to vital revenue sources collapsing and the result does not look good. In all seriousness we are probably going to see Scotland (and possibly Northern Ireland) bail from the UK because what is coming is a disaster.

TLDR: World is on fire and I make money turning charcoal into diamonds, but I am still sad the world is on fire because people don't deserve this.
 
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