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I hope we are done talking about boycotting the Apple Cup

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COUGinNCW said:
I explained it above (back of napkin math) but I’ll try to be a little more clear.

Big12 tv contract - $30m. 9-10 games a year (Big12 and home OOC games)= ~3M per game. Average viewers being very generous is about 1.5M. And that’s very generous.

The AC is traditionally 3-4M viewers so that game is worth $6-7M. We get that value in a media package every other year. Away game body bags are worth 0 media dollars and between 1.5-2 MINUS expenses. Not cheap to travel to Knoxville.

It’s also at least an extra $1M in ticket revenue alone when it’s in Pullman vs plugging in Wyoming or Central Michigan. It also will drive season ticket sales (tough to quantify) but call it 500 at 1000 ticket = $.5M.

Players want to play against the best so obvious benefit to recruiting. Just ask the guys that play and they will undoubtedly want to keep playing uw.

It also keeps a local (see Seattle) interest in the program that will help drive our ratings, donations and media deal.

And it tastes 500x better beating those jagoffs than anyone else when we win.
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I'd like to see the real thing, not projections. If one game was worth $6-7 million, I doubt the Pac-12 would have collapsed. Six of those = $72 million (If you want to say $66 million since CU-Utah was not a historical rivalry, I will agree).
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Loyal Coug1 said:
Agree there. I'd like to see the contract for these next 4 games. And look forward to seeing our actual $ take on Saturday's game.
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Since you claim sometimes to be a dollars and sense guy, you should also sketch out the marketing dollars and alumni reach the Apple Cup offers and contrast that with any other game we would backfill it with.

Over 57K fans showed up for the game on Saturday. What can we possibly schedule in place of that game that would draw in more Coug fans; not only to the stadium, but on television. How do we replace the intangibles like K-12 teachers across the State decorating their classrooms in Crimson or Purple. Side bets at work between alumni. Shared tailgates. The fact that (literally) 100% of players, coaches, and former player alumni vote to keep the rivalry going. How much of a CAF and Cougar Collective bump do we get during Apple Cup week vs. a replacement game vs. Montana State or New Mexico? What other game draws even a fraction of the National media attention that we receive during Apple Cup?
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I hope we are done talking about boycotting the Apple Cup

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CougPatrol said:
OK, you've suggested cancelling the most important sporting and marketing event of the year. What's your proposal for backfilling the game? It's not just the lost revenue (which is significant), but also the massive alumni reach that this game offers. Play a bodybag game for $1M? Schedule another Big Sky opponent and play it in front of 20K fans?

If UW is OK with alternating the games between Martin Stadium and Husky Stadium, why in the world would we say no to that? They're the only big conference school who will ever visit us again in all likelihood.

If we can't agree on a home and home but there is a 5-year offer to play the annual game in Lumen Stadium, I'm down with that as well. That was an awesome game on Saturday. Over 57K fans showed up for a 12:30 kickoff. Again, why would we say no to that? What's the replacement plan?

If UW insists on playing the game every year in Husky Stadium, then we of course tell them to F-off. But otherwise, we don't walk away from this game.
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First, WSU has to have enough confidence and pride to NOT be the former husband living the wife's basement after the divorce because rent is high.

Second, if the financial situation is so dire, play body bag games. Get a real payday from Tennessee, tOSU, Alabama, or whoever. They pay way more than $1 million, and you know that.
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CougSinceBirth said:
Is it great WSU won? Absolutely. But they should absolutely never play the game again. They shouldn't have played it this year either. The game didn't even sell out.

The revenue was projected at $4m at best WITH a sell out.
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OK, you've suggested cancelling the most important sporting and marketing event of the year. What's your proposal for backfilling the game? It's not just the lost revenue (which is significant), but also the massive alumni reach that this game offers. Play a bodybag game for $1M? Schedule another Big Sky opponent and play it in front of 20K fans?

If UW is OK with alternating the games between Martin Stadium and Husky Stadium, why in the world would we say no to that? They're the only big conference school who will ever visit us again in all likelihood.

If we can't agree on a home and home but there is a 5-year offer to play the annual game in Lumen Stadium, I'm down with that as well. That was an awesome game on Saturday. Over 57K fans showed up for a 12:30 kickoff. Again, why would we say no to that? What's the replacement plan?

If UW insists on playing the game every year in Husky Stadium, then we of course tell them to F-off. But otherwise, we don't walk away from this game.
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Coug90 said:
Smells like more desperation to garner sympathy as Harris kicked his ass in the debate and is widening her lead in the polls. No witnesses other than his own SS, private golf course ( how TF he get there) dudes been a republican (2 for 2!).

FWIW, Jim Jones and Hitler both staged assassination attempts. Both of these events are fishy AF when you consider all of the details, fallout, etc. As much as we all know there’s plenty of people out there who’d like him wiped off the face of the earth, I’m not buying it.
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LOL! And to think that this is the guy that thought that eating cats and dogs was a wild conspiracy theory. If this was tried by Biden or Harris, members of the DC elite class and political establishment, you might have something, but how the eff is a hated outsider going to be able to pull it off? No f*cking way!
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9/11 Survivor Story

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UberCougars said:
*Not from Laura Loomer

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Eliminated. You do realize there’s a hundred definitions and uses of this word that don’t mean “kill” right…it’s actually probably the least used version, and generally used by the military. This guy is a lawyer FFS.

“We’ve eliminated him as a suspect”…is he dead?
“They’ve been eliminated from playoff contention”. Holy shit, that’s a massacre if it’s a football team!

Don’t be stupid.
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Smells like more desperation to garner sympathy as Harris kicked his ass in the debate and is widening her lead in the polls. No witnesses other than his own SS, private golf course ( how TF he get there) dudes been a republican (2 for 2!).

FWIW, Jim Jones and Hitler both staged assassination attempts. Both of these events are fishy AF when you consider all of the details, fallout, etc. As much as we all know there’s plenty of people out there who’d like him wiped off the face of the earth, I’m not buying it.
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I think we should all take a moment and think about Pat Chun

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WillieThePimp said:
Good post but I thought the beers thing was kind of cool though I get where you’re coming from,

That said I 100% disagree with your bagging on Dickert. Not perfect but I believe he’s been great for WSU and has given us a lot of stability during some terrible times.

Did your momma not love you enough?
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Holy cow it’s not that hard, Biggs identifies as a “football coach” but he’s never gotten past high school JV. He’s pissed about guys like Dickert because they’ve lapped him and made a lucrative career in his “profession”, where he’s stuck working for a postgame bucket of KFC and still has to work a real job on weekends. Envy is a bitch.
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I think we should all take a moment and think about Pat Chun

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WillieThePimp said:
100% fired for being an idiot. How the hell does a college educated person not believe in or understand science and instead believes in idiotic conspiracies? That alone demonstrates what a moron he is
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I liked Rolovich until the Covid shot thing. I don't care how anyone feels at this point about the vaccine (I've said many times I've had 5 and am damn glad I did). Here is a full-grown man making $3 million and he pisses it away over his "religious beliefs". And 4 of his dumd-ass assistants. What a f-ing fool. And yes the fact that he apparently is unemployable 3 years later speaks volumes.

Had not heard before that Saban made 100% of his team get vaccinated and did public service messages. Cool.
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BiggsCoug said:
He sucked when he posted on twitter for fans to come have a beer with him at a bar. Name another BCS coach that has done or would do that. I about shit when I saw that.

He sucked when he brought a sexual predator to campus.

He sucked when he signed 2 fcking OL in his recruiting class.

He sucked when he blindsided everyone that he wasnt going to media days. Way to go. Embarass your bosses and your school.

He sucked when he held WSU over a barrel and waited until mid season to file his appeal.

He should have been fired after the media days fiasco.

And yes, he 100% should have taken the vax in his position. Fcking Nick Saban had 100% of his team vaxed and was doing PSA’s. He is there to win. Roloturd made it about himself. Name another head football coach that got fired because of this.

Roloturd is the most selfish fcking coach Ive seen in a long time and there is a reason he can’t find a job all these years after he was fired. If he was so awesome he’d have a job. If sooo many ADs agreed with you about the vax, he’d have a job. He doesn’t.

He sucks.

Edit to add…. Even schools in anti vax states won’t have him. Read that again. Why? Cause he put himself above the school and program. He has shown he cannot be trusted to make decisions for the school and the program before himself.
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Good post but I thought the beers thing was kind of cool though I get where you’re coming from,

That said I 100% disagree with your bagging on Dickert. Not perfect but I believe he’s been great for WSU and has given us a lot of stability during some terrible times.

Did your momma not love you enough?
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I hope we are done talking about boycotting the Apple Cup

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dgibbons said:
If we have to play body bag games, play body bag games.

And I'd like to see some backup on the $3 million to $5 million per year. Additional ticket sales due to a uw matchup would not give us that kind of money at Martin Stadium.
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I explained it above (back of napkin math) but I’ll try to be a little more clear.

Big12 tv contract - $30m. 9-10 games a year (Big12 and home OOC games)= ~3M per game. Average viewers being very generous is about 1.5M. And that’s very generous.

The AC is traditionally 3-4M viewers so that game is worth $6-7M. We get that value in a media package every other year. Away game body bags are worth 0 media dollars and between 1.5-2 MINUS expenses. Not cheap to travel to Knoxville.

It’s also at least an extra $1M in ticket revenue alone when it’s in Pullman vs plugging in Wyoming or Central Michigan. It also will drive season ticket sales (tough to quantify) but call it 500 at 1000 ticket = $.5M.

Players want to play against the best so obvious benefit to recruiting. Just ask the guys that play and they will undoubtedly want to keep playing uw.

It also keeps a local (see Seattle) interest in the program that will help drive our ratings, donations and media deal.

And it tastes 500x better beating those jagoffs than anyone else when we win.
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Rewatched the end of the Apple Cup

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SaveFerris said:
Sure looked like Edson was held on the 4th-and-1, but still managed to make the play on Rogers. Thorton deserves a lot of praise after being a weak link last year. He's had a really good season start. Loved the instant reaction of the mutt fans. "What happened?" and I think "WTF".

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Too bad the camera guys couldn't find a husky fan as honest as this lady:

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FRESHMAN (2022): Enrolled in January and participated in spring practice…went 5-of-11 for 86 yards in Crimson & Gray Spring Game…did not appear in a game…redshirt season.

Played one snap against Northern Colorado in September, hit the portal in Dec 2023.



From SJSU:
As to how he came to SJSU, Brown explained, "I got a really fortunate call from Coach McGiven and Coach Stutz. It was a hard opportunity to turn down. I had talked to Coach Stutz a little bit when I was at Washington State … and my senior year of high school McGiven offered me. So to reconnect with them was a unique situation and one that was hard to pass up on.






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San José State Spartans

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2024 regular season stats​

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I think we should all take a moment and think about Pat Chun

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M-I-Coug said:
I have a close relative who is:

Toxic and horribly dysfunctional with all family members.
Criticizes every single family member, constantly.
Does not act in love.
Does not honor any person's own way.
Does not show respect.
Does not listen to anyone.
Is completely miserable.
Has all the money, and is very, very unhappy. Does give and is generous, though.
Lost her son and husband.
Has bitterness in her heart.
Is unwilling to forgive.
Has genuine evil in her heart. Not violent evil....just doesn't love other people.

Bottom line, we can't change anyone.
You can't change people.

Just ignore, and don't feed anyone, because it won't work and they won't change, until they're ready to be transformed.
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Hmmm, sounds like my type. Is she cute?
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I think we should all take a moment and think about Pat Chun

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M-I-Coug said:
I have a close relative who is:

Toxic and horribly dysfunctional with all family members.
Criticizes every single family member, constantly.
Does not act in love.
Does not honor any person's own way.
Does not show respect.
Does not listen to anyone.
Is completely miserable.
Has all the money, and is very, very unhappy. Does give and is generous, though.
Lost her son and husband.
Has bitterness in her heart.
Is unwilling to forgive.
Has genuine evil in her heart. Not violent evil....just doesn't love other people.

Bottom line, we can't change anyone.
You can't change people.

Just ignore, and don't feed anyone, because it won't work and they won't change, until they're ready to be transformed.
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I wish you were not so delusional. Ive tried to help you. You are a lost cause.
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