Suudy said:

Virginia Governor Signs NIL Law That Could Significantly Change College Sports Landscape

A groundbreaking NIL law was signed on Thursday in Virginia that could significantly impact the future of college athletics.

www.si.com

VA passed a bill banning the NCAA for punishing schools while directly pay NIL deals, eliminating the separate collectives that have been created. How many states follow suit? Does the NCAA sue?

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That's a state law, not a federal law, thus it only has effect, in that state, and does not affect other states, colleges, NCAA.

NCAA is a national, federal governing body, that can punish, run things how they like it. If they decide to punish VA schools, VA can't enforce a state law to something that is a national, federal rule in all the other states.

They VA can take NCAA to a federal court, and try to enforce it that way, but outside of that there is no way that VA can enforce the law on NCAA, and the NCAA can just ignore the VA state law.

If that happens, the only thing VA can do, is either try to sue NCAA in federal court, and probably lose to NCAA lawyers, or withdraw VA colleges from NCAA to punish NCAA, but that would hurt VA more then hurt NCAA if at all.

Also the NCAA could say, do "Fine you want schools to be able to pay colleges directly in VA, well fine, you can do that outside of the NCAA, and the NCAA, is kicking the entire state of VA, and all their colleges outside the NCAA, and then you can have the VA colleges pay NIL directly to student athletes, all you want. If your not going to follow, obey the NCAA rules, or if you are going to try to pass state laws to try to bypass national, federal NCAA rules, then you can just be kicked out of the NCAA collective, etc, which means NO NCAA basketball, NIT basketball, NCAA CFP, access for you, and you can schedule your own schedule, and come up with your own bball tourney, CFP, etc"

Yeah sure, other states could follow suit, and yes, Charlie Baker proposed that schools be able to pay student athletes, and yes Colleges could vote for a NCAA rule that lets colleges pay student athletes NIL directly.

But what VA is doing directly wrongly goes against the NCAA national rules, that all colleges, have votes in the process of making NCAA rules.

What's next, Wyoming passing a state law that Wyoming colleges have to automatically getting 1 of the 12 CFP playoff spots.

It's ridiculous, it's absurd, and either won't fly or will or should get shut down.

It’s cool, I’m sure Ohio state, Michigan, Oregon & penn state are all taking out second mortgages on their stadiums too.

A good PG, or combo SG/PG like Isiah Watts, at the 1 spot, then Lejuan Watts(6-6, SG, 3, Wing, like a Klay Thompson, Weaver, Lacy(except taller), Ike Fontaine(except taller), that can drive, finish, pass, shoot 3, midrange, etc, at the 2 spot, and Wells(6' 8), at the 3 spot, and Price at the 4, semi stretch PF spot as a better version of Jaki, and a cross between Jaki, Jones, but not as good as Jones, but almost as good as Jones, and a good center, 5 spot, would be a formidable starting line up, if develop chemistry, play together, jell, etc.

Add some depth, Cedric Coward and would be even more formidable, if develop chemistry, play together, jell, learn, play roles well, etc.

And might even be able to convince 1, couple, few, some to either return from portal, or return from, withdrawing from NBA draft.

If that happens, and if get Jaki, others back, combined with PG, center, Cedric Coward, Price, Lejuan Watts, depth, etc, and the team could be very formidable in the WCC, and RIP through it, and either be a NIT/NCAA bubble NIT Elite 8, Final Four, or NCAA/NIT bubble into NCAA tournament, get eliminated in 2nd round, and win 19,20,21,22 games in regular season, finish top 2,3,4 in conference, go about 14-6, 13-7, 12-8 in conference, go 10-2, 9-3, 11-1 in noncon, win 1,2,3 games in WCC tourney, or win WCC tourney, and win about 22, 23, 24, 25, 26 total games by end of all post season tournaments.

ttowncoug said:

I contribute. They need to be more transparent with the funds flow.

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Transparency is something that WSU has really moved away from in the last few years. They talk about it a lot. Don’t practice it much.

I contribute. They need to be more transparent with the funds flow.

Of the EWU players out there I liked Watts and Coward the most. On Watts I thought of a taller version of DaVonté Lacy. Watts says he gets a lot of comparison to Draymond Green.

I wonder if Riley will need to adjust some things, but I like the profile of his players. They seem to have high IQ, energy, and physical.

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ttowncoug said:

Times article on the subject.

Bottom line: Basically, UW is going to get around $20M annual in "institutional" support....we need to be more aggressive with this.

Highlights:

The athletic department paid $12.3 million in debt service in the 2022 fiscal year, per the financial report submitted to the NCAA.

But that figure dropped by approximately $3 million in 2023 after Washington’s board of regents approved a temporary restructuring plan

Washington’s campus support, which took the form of student fees allocated to athletics and direct transfers from the university, totaled $10.3 million last year — the fourth-lowest amount in the conference.

Oregon received no direct help from campus while UCLA received $2.1 million in support and Washington State received $6.8 million.

UW attempts to restructure Husky Stadium debt as Big Ten move looms

UW is "evaluating options" for refinancing Husky Stadium debt, a move that potentially could free up valuable cash as the Huskies transition into the Big Ten.

www.seattletimes.com

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Sorry for nitpicking like this, but you misspelled uw in the title of your post. You have heard the saying "With all due respect...."? Well, that institution deserves exactly ZERO respect from me.

This has been going on in club sports for eons where their parents can freely have them change teams every year. No surprise it would eventually bleed over to school teams.

7ICoug said:

Nice upgrade from Kymany as he can shoot and finish.

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Different type players playing different positions. Spencer Mahoney has also entered the portal, so it does not appear he will be back.

BleedCrimsonandGray said:

And we're all stunned that these kids don't know how to interact with others, have no social skills or mores, and are selfish beyond reason.

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I was going to say something similar. A big part of the "college experience" used to be growing into adulthood by dealing with and meeting people, and interacting with humans in and out of class. And yeah having some good times along the way.

I never cease to be amazed at how many, if not most people (not just young ones) spend their lives buried in their phones. A particular annoyance is the dog park I go to. People come in, let their dogs run wild. They spend the entire time staring at the phones, as their dog goes out and shits, gets into fights, bothers others, etc.

Distance education is a way to get a degree, but it is not a complete education by any means, nor does the quality measure up in many if not all cases. IMHO

A further annoyance is the complete lack of knowledge of the world around them - and the limited knowledge that have is from some blogger or X poster. $5 sez half of them don't know who the President is, never heard of Ukraine, etc. That is today's society.

Flatlandcoug said:

You are 100% correct. The cardio surgeon that did a surgery on my mom about 18 years ago was an arrogant jerk with a big time God complex. My mother had surgery in 1994 that required a new surgery in 2002. In 2006, she developed an aortic aneurysm in the same area as the prior surgeries. When I flew to Vegas to be there for the surgery, I asked the doctor what her chances of survival were and what other options were available. The doctor just said that it was high risk and that there was no other choice. I told her (the surgeon) that no action was always a choice if the risk of the surgery was too high. We went back and forth but we all knew it was going to happen so I didn't push it too much. After the surgery was complete, the surgeon admitted that the first two patients that she had attempted the surgery on had died on the table and that my mom was the first one to survive. So yeah, arrogant doctors that have their own best interests in mind are a real thing.

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Glad to hear that your mom made it through that risky surgery, and hope she has lived/did live many more years.

Another personal anecdote with a different twist. Early on in his prostate cancer issue, my dad went in for some surgery to deal with urinary system problems. He had a drain tube placed that went in through his back. A review of a scan a couple days later by the radiologist revealed that the drain tube had actually pierced through the intestine. Bad news. Our options were to hope that there had been no infection yet and that the hole would heal itself or to have another surgery and seal the hole and remove part of the intestine if necessary due to infection. In this case we feared that if the infection HAD already started that allowing it to continue was more dangerous than doing the "just in case" surgery. So we convinced dad to have the preventative surgery, which fortunately turned out to be the wise choice, as they found out there WAS infection already and had to remove the section of intestine and clean out the infection. A much more invasive option was selected, but it turned out to be the correct option. Sometimes you go with your gut.

BowDown253 said:

The funniest thing is where you are getting those from lists us with 2 or 3.

10 of MIchigans titles were from before black people were even allowed to play. When is the last time Minnesota, Illinois, Maryland, etc. etc. have even been nationally competitive? Hell, Nebraska has barely been relevant in these kids lifetime.

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You are incorrect, absolutely. The one site that I looked at listed the uw with 1 title, which was in 1991, which was a split title with Miami. That means you actually had .5 of a title. I will try to find that site and list it again, but in the meantime here is another site that confirms the .5 for the uw. Maybe there will be more. BTW, here is a hint for you-any claim to a national championship that is on a uw propaganda page but not listed anywhere else does not count.


https://collegefootballnews.com/ran...onal-champions-who-won-the-most-championships

https://www.foxsports.com/stories/college-football/college-football-champions


BTW, while you are bragging about how great the uw is and how they will thrive in the BIg Ten, check out this chart showing the top 40 schools with the most NCAA team championships. You will see that there are 9 PAC teams on the chart, with the uw, WSU, and OSU the only schools not listed. #2 is UCLA, #3 is USC. There are ten (10!) Big Ten schools on this list, all of which the uw will be competing against every week. Good luck, sap. I'm sure that your beloved mutts are right on the cusp of totally dominating their new conference. LOL

95coug said:

It’s not a coincidence that at many schools - including WSU - their virtual campus is the one with the biggest enrollment increases.

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And we're all stunned that these kids don't know how to interact with others, have no social skills or mores, and are selfish beyond reason.

Stretch 74 said:

Just remember that the doctors are NOT gods. In the initial stages of my wife's pulmonary fibrosis they were pushing her to have a biopsy done on her lungs. While skeptical of getting it done, she did finally give in to their pushing for the biopsy. Turns out it was positive for the disease, yet what did it really accomplish? It did not in any way change their treatment plan for her, and it turned out to be a VERY painful experience, something that had the pain/discomfort continuing for quite a while. Given another opportunity in a situation like that, no way would we have it done.

You might keep that in mind in the future-what exactly would the procedure involve, what might they learn or not be able to learn, and how would the test results affect any ongoing treatment options.

Looking at it another way, when my college roommate was my own PCP doc for a while, he explained that his philosophy was to start out treatment with the LEAST invasive options and then go from there. Basic common sense there, but it was also something he constantly used in his practice.

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You are 100% correct. The cardio surgeon that did a surgery on my mom about 18 years ago was an arrogant jerk with a big time God complex. My mother had surgery in 1994 that required a new surgery in 2002. In 2006, she developed an aortic aneurysm in the same area as the prior surgeries. When I flew to Vegas to be there for the surgery, I asked the doctor what her chances of survival were and what other options were available. The doctor just said that it was high risk and that there was no other choice. I told her (the surgeon) that no action was always a choice if the risk of the surgery was too high. We went back and forth but we all knew it was going to happen so I didn't push it too much. After the surgery was complete, the surgeon admitted that the first two patients that she had attempted the surgery on had died on the table and that my mom was the first one to survive. So yeah, arrogant doctors that have their own best interests in mind are a real thing.

Flatlandcoug said:

Best of luck and listen to your doctor(s). My dad wasted a lot of time arguing with his doctors about his diet and its impact on his diabetes.

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Just remember that the doctors are NOT gods. In the initial stages of my wife's pulmonary fibrosis they were pushing her to have a biopsy done on her lungs. While skeptical of getting it done, she did finally give in to their pushing for the biopsy. Turns out it was positive for the disease, yet what did it really accomplish? It did not in any way change their treatment plan for her, and it turned out to be a VERY painful experience, something that had the pain/discomfort continuing for quite a while. Given another opportunity in a situation like that, no way would we have it done.

You might keep that in mind in the future-what exactly would the procedure involve, what might they learn or not be able to learn, and how would the test results affect any ongoing treatment options.

Looking at it another way, when my college roommate was my own PCP doc for a while, he explained that his philosophy was to start out treatment with the LEAST invasive options and then go from there. Basic common sense there, but it was also something he constantly used in his practice.

Yes, I've seen both of them are in the portal. Hope one or both come back, but can't blame either for moving on.

Coug90 said:

Yeah there’s way too much ego flying around to get all of the conferences in agreement on a change of this magnitude. Think about what a no brainer playoff expansion was and it still took eons to come to an agreement on that. This will never happen.

There’s not a program out there that can’t envision a 2-3 year flop, getting booted out of the top tier, and the stress of trying to get back in going up against transfer portal and NIL. Alabama, Michigan, Texas, Florida, Notre Dame…all have had their shit years and it can always happen again.

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Ohio State, Alabama, Georgia has pretty much almost never had a shit year, and probably won't have a shit year, and if they do have a shit year, it won't be 2,3 shit years in a row that would get them relegated.

Michigan, Texas, Florida, Clemson, FSU, Notre Dame, LSU, Auburn, Penn State, Oklahoma, etc, are just not at the same highest level of Ohio St, Alabama, Georgia, and are capable of 2 shit years in row, and getting relegated.

Also there is a big difference between having 2 shit years in a row and having the bottom, worst shittiest 2 years in row out of all the teams, and getting relegated because of it.

That might happen to Notre Dame, Michigan, Penn St, Auburn, Florida, Clemson, etc, but that wouldn't happen to Ohio St, Alabama, Georgia, LSU, Texas,

But yeah, ego, and being scared of the possibility, no matter how unlikely, would shoot the idea down.

Coug90 said:

Yeah there’s way too much ego flying around to get all of the conferences in agreement on a change of this magnitude. Think about what a no brainer playoff expansion was and it still took eons to come to an agreement on that. This will never happen.

There’s not a program out there that can’t envision a 2-3 year flop, getting booted out of the top tier, and the stress of trying to get back in going up against transfer portal and NIL. Alabama, Michigan, Texas, Florida, Notre Dame…all have had their shit years and it can always happen again.

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FWIW, the proposal protects the top 70 teams from the relegation discussion. The "bottom" 50 teams are the ones that would have to deal with that fight. I think everyone knows that there is no way in hell that any team from the SEC, B1G, ACC or Big 12 would be willing to accept any risk of relegation and the proposal reflects that.

Frankly, what would make the most sense is to have all 50 of the other teams just compete for the highest rated Group of 5 champion spot like they do for the NY6 games and not even have relegation as part of the discussion.

Coug90 said:

Yeah there’s way too much ego flying around to get all of the conferences in agreement on a change of this magnitude. Think about what a no brainer playoff expansion was and it still took eons to come to an agreement on that. This will never happen.

There’s not a program out there that can’t envision a 2-3 year flop, getting booted out of the top tier, and the stress of trying to get back in going up against transfer portal and NIL. Alabama, Michigan, Texas, Florida, Notre Dame…all have had their shit years and it can always happen again.

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Right. If you're in the club, why agree to the risk of getting kicked out?

Flatlandcoug said:

I don't think anyone thought it was gospel. FWIW, the super league rumor is Coug related in the fact that it would enshrine us as a permanent top tier member (well, until the next change anyway).

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Yeah there’s way too much ego flying around to get all of the conferences in agreement on a change of this magnitude. Think about what a no brainer playoff expansion was and it still took eons to come to an agreement on that. This will never happen.

There’s not a program out there that can’t envision a 2-3 year flop, getting booted out of the top tier, and the stress of trying to get back in going up against transfer portal and NIL. Alabama, Michigan, Texas, Florida, Notre Dame…all have had their shit years and it can always happen again.

mikalalas said:

Thanks everybody for well wishes, prayers, support, counsel, help, etc

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Best of luck and listen to your doctor(s). My dad wasted a lot of time arguing with his doctors about his diet and its impact on his diabetes.

CL-W is in the portal. She could come back, but it appears she’s looking at other programs. I wonder what her timetable is for recovery? I have heard 9-12 months from surgery is typical.

Apparently Johanna Teder is also in the portal.