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I hope we are done talking about boycotting the Apple Cup

Is it great WSU won? Absolutely. But they should absolutely never play the game again. They shouldn't have played it this year either. The game didn't even sell out.

The revenue was projected at $4m at best WITH a sell out.
The games in Pullman are part of our TV package. If that game is on a network it would have drawn 3-4m viewers so it’s worth a ton for our media rights. The best we could hope to replace it with is MAYBE a game with a school like Cal but more likely a school like Nevada, Wyoming or Central Michigan. I’m a season ticket holder and I want to see this as part of the package every other year.
It’s also a big selling point to recruits.
It would go down as a horrible decision if WSU cancelled this series unless Jeff Bezos decides to gift WSU athletics $1B.

I hope we are done talking about boycotting the Apple Cup

You should have shut down your social media and gone to the game.

You missed the best Apple cup ever.
I gotta admit I felt the same way a month ago but game week rolled around and I wanted to be there. I couldn’t because of other obligations. I think the 3rd AC I’ve missed in 20 years.

I’ve concluded it’s silly to miss the game out of spite for what happened. It’s just penalizing the team and coaches for something they had nothing to do with. I wish I could have gone, would have been another great memory.

I hope we are done talking about boycotting the Apple Cup

Is it great WSU won? Absolutely. But they should absolutely never play the game again. They shouldn't have played it this year either. The game didn't even sell out.

The revenue was projected at $4m at best WITH a sell out.
You should have shut down your social media and gone to the game.

You missed the best Apple cup ever.

I think we should all take a moment and think about Pat Chun

Jake Dickfore is not this amazing coach you make him out to be. He is learning on the job at best, could/should have been fired after last season.

Now he is given the weakest schedule, could be ever, for a WSU team. He should be feasting on these teams.
Jake Dickert has his team feasting on every team they’ve played this year so far.

Bigg’s (allegedly a former walk-on one season at WSU back in the Sweeney era or was it Walden?) isn’t aware this is happening.

I think we should all take a moment and think about Pat Chun

Jake Dickfore is not this amazing coach you make him out to be. He is learning on the job at best, could/should have been fired after last season.

Now he is given the weakest schedule, could be ever, for a WSU team. He should be feasting on these teams.

And here you are like a fanboy slobbering all ofer him. Get off your knees MI. Good grief.
Good coaches don’t learn on the job Hot Take of the day.

I think we should all take a moment and think about Pat Chun

"Winning football coach" FYI, Rolovich was 5-6 as a head coach at WSU. If he was actually a good coach, he would have a job by now.
Anyone who tries to say he was a good coach for us actually means he was good at sticking it to the man and not taking the vaccine…which to be clear I could give two shits about.

Reality is he got outscored 38-0 in the second half twice in 11 games. He was dogshit as a coach for us, I don’t care what he did at Hawaii. Wulff was a good coach at Eastern too.

I hope we are done talking about boycotting the Apple Cup

You're kidding right?

You think we should give in to "No Martin Stadium" just to play the snobby purple pencil dicks in Seattle?

What we just did is even more of a right to not play them anymore.

Let them smell that loss in Seattle for eternity.
And what’s your proposal to replace the $3-5M that game brings to the program every year?

I think we should all take a moment and think about Pat Chun

Jake Dickfore is not this amazing coach you make him out to be. He is learning on the job at best, could/should have been fired after last season.

Now he is given the weakest schedule, could be ever, for a WSU team. He should be feasting on these teams.

And here you are like a fanboy slobbering all ofer him. Get off your knees MI. Good grief.
There are two power 4 teams with 1 loss right now both from Dickert’s Cougs. Dickert is one of 5 coaches in the country with 2 wins against P4 teams so far in 2024. He’s coached 3 games he can’t be 12-0.

Stop sucking your own dick. You’re a high school JV coach for a reason.

I think we should all take a moment and think about Pat Chun

You mean how he pissed off the Coaches for our successful Volleyball and Basketball and fired a winning football coach for not getting a fake covid shot while the entire time having a purple hard on for fusky nut sweat?

Oh yeah... totally decent job

"Winning football coach" FYI, Rolovich was 5-6 as a head coach at WSU. If he was actually a good coach, he would have a job by now.
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I think we should all take a moment and think about Pat Chun

A setback is a setup. It sets up for something better.

Jacob Dickert (born August 23, 1983) is an American college football coach.

He is the head coach at Washington State University.

Jake Dickfore is not this amazing coach you make him out to be. He is learning on the job at best, could/should have been fired after last season.

Now he is given the weakest schedule, could be ever, for a WSU team. He should be feasting on these teams.

And here you are like a fanboy slobbering all ofer him. Get off your knees MI. Good grief.

Kyle Thornton ~ A 2019 walk-on~ now...The AC Hero...

WSU’s Apple Cup win an emotional moment for Kyle Thornton and family​

Greg Woods
Sep. 15, 2024 at 9:26 pm
By
The Spokesman-Review

PULLMAN — Steve Thornton breathed a sigh of relief when the camera panned away from him and his wife, Debbie.

The two found themselves near the end zone at Lumen Field, near the spot where their son Kyle had sealed Washington State’s Apple Cup win over Washington Saturday afternoon with a game-winning tackle, and a Seattle television reporter was interviewing Kyle. He pulled his family into the shot: Mom, dad and younger brother, Cameron.

Steve was bawling. Debbie was teary-eyed. So eventually, the camera operator zoomed into Kyle’s face, leaving Steve and Debbie out of the shot.

“We looked like we were attending a funeral more than we were celebrating,” Steve said.

The emotions washed over Thornton’s parents because they knew how much this meant to their son, who will be remembered as the hero of the 2024 Apple Cup. On fourth-and-goal from the 1, WSU up five with a shade over a minute left, UW quarterback Will Rogers ran a speed option to the right. Cougar edge Andrew Edson bullrushed his way into Rogers and forced him to pitch it to running back Jonah Coleman.

That’s about when Thornton, the Cougars’ sixth-year linebacker, surged toward Coleman, met him at the line of scrimmage and brought him to the ground. He held up his fist like fourth down was coming up. Instead, something even better was on the horizon for the Cougs: Their first Apple Cup win in three years — and just their third in 15 seasons.

“I think I’ve only cried like that one other time at the end of a game,” Steve said, “and it was when they won the CIF (California Interscholastic Federation) in high school.”

Thornton, a class of 2019 linebacker, has been around WSU’s program for quite some time. A former walk-on, he was recruited by the late Mike Leach. He watched the Cougs’ 2020 season result in just four games thanks to the pandemic. He was put on scholarship ahead of the 2021 season, in time to play three snaps in WSU’s win in the Apple Cup that season.

Since then, he has appeared in every game the Cougs have played, the last 15 as a starter. He’s earned the respect of his teammates, earning captain honors this season. So far this fall, he’s made 10 tackles in three games, helping WSU race to a spotless 3-0 start to the season.

But he had never made a play of this magnitude, of this gravity. Nobody understood that better than his parents, who were sitting in Lumen Field’s section 131, row G — the perfect angle, right in line to watch Kyle’s game-winning tackle. When the Huskies marched inside the Cougs’ 10-yard line, Steve and Debbie started to feel the anxiety of the moment.

It only got worse moments later. Facing fourth-and-goal from the 1, the Huskies came to the line to snap the ball. But coach Jedd Fisch didn’t like what he saw. Timeout UW.

“I’m like, ‘Oh, shoot. Now we’ve got another minute and a half or two minutes,’” Steve said. “We have to sit here and see what’s gonna happen, just knowing that (Kyle) was gonna have to make a play. I knew it was gonna come down to something like that. Especially as a parent, you just want the best outcome possible for your kids.”

“I’ve never been so nervous,” Debbie said. “Steve was clutched on to me so tight. He was hanging on to me like a weight. I was like, no, I need my space. I need room to breathe and jump and get excited and get nervous.”

Seconds later, though, mom and dad were trying to figure out how to reach the field and join all the other WSU fans. Steve was expecting security to be pretty stringent, but after one officer tackled a field-rusher, the rest of the security team realized there were too many fans to stop — so they let everyone else through.

So Steve and Debbie started to look for Kyle. They looked up to the video board, which showed their son holding the Apple Cup trophy, so they located him that way. Before they knew it, they were on TV, tears streaming down the parents of the Cougs’ hero.

“Having his brother there was a big deal too, because his brother hadn’t attended many games in the six years,” Steve said. “So it meant a lot to have him there with us, how excited he was. He was crying. It was a cool moment. It was obviously one we won’t ever forget.”
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I think we should all take a moment and think about Pat Chun

He sucked when he posted on twitter for fans to come have a beer with him at a bar. Name another BCS coach that has done or would do that. I about shit when I saw that.

He sucked when he brought a sexual predator to campus.

He sucked when he signed 2 fcking OL in his recruiting class.

He sucked when he blindsided everyone that he wasnt going to media days. Way to go. Embarass your bosses and your school.

He sucked when he held WSU over a barrel and waited until mid season to file his appeal.

He should have been fired after the media days fiasco.

And yes, he 100% should have taken the vax in his position. Fcking Nick Saban had 100% of his team vaxed and was doing PSA’s. He is there to win. Roloturd made it about himself. Name another head football coach that got fired because of this.

Roloturd is the most selfish fcking coach Ive seen in a long time and there is a reason he can’t find a job all these years after he was fired. If he was so awesome he’d have a job. If sooo many ADs agreed with you about the vax, he’d have a job. He doesn’t.

He sucks.

Edit to add…. Even schools in anti vax states won’t have him. Read that again. Why? Cause he put himself above the school and program. He has shown he cannot be trusted to make decisions for the school and the program before himself.
A setback is a setup. It sets up for something better.

Jacob Dickert (born August 23, 1983) is an American college football coach.

He is the head coach at Washington State University.

I think we should all take a moment and think about Pat Chun

I still wanna hear this again...

Tell me what he "sucked" at. Us having a winning season in 2021 or was it him having 10 wins at Hawaii and beating byu in a bowl game right before he came to us.

Did he "suck" when he was going to people's houses and delivering food/goods to them during covid?

Oh wait... he must have sucked at picking assistant coaches.

Yeah... he totally "sucked"

He sucked when he posted on twitter for fans to come have a beer with him at a bar. Name another BCS coach that has done or would do that. I about shit when I saw that.

He sucked when he brought a sexual predator to campus.

He sucked when he signed 2 fcking OL in his recruiting class.

He sucked when he blindsided everyone that he wasnt going to media days. Way to go. Embarass your bosses and your school.

He sucked when he held WSU over a barrel and waited until mid season to file his appeal.

He should have been fired after the media days fiasco.

And yes, he 100% should have taken the vax in his position. Fcking Nick Saban had 100% of his team vaxed and was doing PSA’s. He is there to win. Roloturd made it about himself. Name another head football coach that got fired because of this.

Roloturd is the most selfish fcking coach Ive seen in a long time and there is a reason he can’t find a job all these years after he was fired. If he was so awesome he’d have a job. If sooo many ADs agreed with you about the vax, he’d have a job. He doesn’t.

He sucks.

Edit to add…. Even schools in anti vax states won’t have him. Read that again. Why? Cause he put himself above the school and program. He has shown he cannot be trusted to make decisions for the school and the program before himself.

I think we should all take a moment and think about Pat Chun

Rolovich sucked. Glad he gave us a reason.
I still wanna hear this again...

Tell me what he "sucked" at. Us having a winning season in 2021 or was it him having 10 wins at Hawaii and beating byu in a bowl game right before he came to us.

Did he "suck" when he was going to people's houses and delivering food/goods to them during covid?

Oh wait... he must have sucked at picking assistant coaches.

Yeah... he totally "sucked"

Best article I've read yet re:AC

He would grab Rogers as the quarterback traveled along the line, and it would send Rogers into a predicament.

“I hit him,” Edson said.
As Rogers’s option options dwindled …
“He pitched it,” Edson said.
… the ball went to Coleman near the right sideline, where a six-season Cougar turned up and so turned up forever in the fans’ warm memories. He’s Kyle Thornton, a linebacker from Upland in California’s Inland Empire, and when he corralled Coleman near the sideline for a two-yard loss, there began a feeling that might as well last the rest of the century and maybe even beyond.
“Game over,” Edson said.
Dickert looked around through his joy and saw that greatest thing about sports: the relationships. “Just to see these guys, and the
celebrations, and the relationships that have been built,” he told reporters.

He summarized: “And if you can’t get behind this team, in this moment, at this time, I just don’t know what else more we can do. Right? Because these guys stayed here for this. For this moment. Right? To bring this trophy back to Pullman [250 miles east-southeast of Seattle], it’s going to be in the third floor of the [football building] if anybody wants to come out and see it. I think we might retire this trophy. I think it’s the Pac-12 trophy. I think that might stay in our place for a long time, and we’ll bring a new one next year, a little Big Ten/Pac-12, we’ll put the new score on it. So we might retire this one as the Pac-12 trophy and stay in Pullman.”

“Being from Washington, I can’t tell you how much this win means to me,” Edson said, and it had lived in the dreams of a kid who became 6-foot-3 and 253 pounds. And that’s when he said the part about growing up and “playing” the Apple Cup, and then he told reporters: “And you’re always thinking it might be your time. And the play came to me, and it was amazing.”
It was amazing, all right. It had bucked the fresh hierarchy, the old snobbery and the dreary TV-money tyranny.
Thank you!

Best article I've read yet re:AC

As Washington State Coach Jake Dickert put it to reporters in Seattle late Saturday, “I just think we’re at such a critical time for Washington State football,” with the future murky and the Apple Cup bizarrely nonconference.

Washington’s Jonah Coleman ran right for a loss of one, corralled by a native of the state, edge rusher Andrew Edson, bringing second and goal.



“Growing up, to be honest,” Edson would tell reporters, “I’m playing this game.”

Washington quarterback Will Rogers threw incomplete down the middle, bringing third and goal.

“We talked about it being a week’s worth of work,” Dickert would tell reporters. “It wasn’t a week’s worth of work. It was 9½ months. Grinding, staying together, working. Our captain, Nusi Malani, in the players’ meeting, he said, ‘We’re not going to beat this team because we hate these guys; we’re going to beat this team because we love each other.’”



Washington State Coach Jake Dickert receives the Apple Cup trophy from Gov. Jay Inslee after beating Washington on Saturday. (Lindsey Wasson/AP)

And while that reiterated the idea of the value of listening to an edge rusher, Washington operated from the 10-yard line, and Rogers hit Denzel Boston to the right, and the play gained … nine yards. Stephen Hall, for two seasons a Cougar, managed to get Boston out of bounds with 72 seconds left, meaning a defensive back from Memphis who had played at Northwest Mississippi Community College ought to get a place in the lore in the Pacific Northwest. Here came fourth and goal.



“I remember I put my helmet down,” said wide receiver Josh Meredith from San Diego, who starred with seven receptions for 111 yards and a touchdown. “I walked over. I was behind the crowd; I was just holding my stuff like this” — hands to chest — “like: ‘Get the stop. Get the stop. Get the stop.’”

In the simultaneous thrill and cruelty of sports, the hopes of the abandoned hinged on one play, and eventually that play did snap. Rogers began heading right with a back outside him in what resembled an option play. And while a defense was about to win the eternal love of those steadfast, mistreated Washington State fans, two guys in particular barged into the future storybooks.
One, Edson, a four-season Cougar from Snoqualmie, population 13,000-ish, 28 miles east of Seattle, began dealing with a block and maybe even a hold, but in the mass of flesh you could see his large left arm begin to fight its way out in a lunge.
He would grab Rogers as the quarterback traveled along the line, and it would send Rogers into a predicament.

“I hit him,” Edson said.
As Rogers’s option options dwindled …
“He pitched it,” Edson said.
… the ball went to Coleman near the right sideline, where a six-season Cougar turned up and so turned up forever in the fans’ warm memories. He’s Kyle Thornton, a linebacker from Upland in California’s Inland Empire, and when he corralled Coleman near the sideline for a two-yard loss, there began a feeling that might as well last the rest of the century and maybe even beyond.
“Game over,” Edson said.
Dickert looked around through his joy and saw that greatest thing about sports: the relationships. “Just to see these guys, and the
celebrations, and the relationships that have been built,” he told reporters.

He summarized: “And if you can’t get behind this team, in this moment, at this time, I just don’t know what else more we can do. Right? Because these guys stayed here for this. For this moment. Right? To bring this trophy back to Pullman [250 miles east-southeast of Seattle], it’s going to be in the third floor of the [football building] if anybody wants to come out and see it. I think we might retire this trophy. I think it’s the Pac-12 trophy. I think that might stay in our place for a long time, and we’ll bring a new one next year, a little Big Ten/Pac-12, we’ll put the new score on it. So we might retire this one as the Pac-12 trophy and stay in Pullman.”

“Being from Washington, I can’t tell you how much this win means to me,” Edson said, and it had lived in the dreams of a kid who became 6-foot-3 and 253 pounds. And that’s when he said the part about growing up and “playing” the Apple Cup, and then he told reporters: “And you’re always thinking it might be your time. And the play came to me, and it was amazing.”
It was amazing, all right. It had bucked the fresh hierarchy, the old snobbery and the dreary TV-money tyranny.
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Best article I've read yet re:AC

As Washington State Coach Jake Dickert put it to reporters in Seattle late Saturday, “I just think we’re at such a critical time for Washington State football,” with the future murky and the Apple Cup bizarrely nonconference.

Washington’s Jonah Coleman ran right for a loss of one, corralled by a native of the state, edge rusher Andrew Edson, bringing second and goal.



“Growing up, to be honest,” Edson would tell reporters, “I’m playing this game.”

Washington quarterback Will Rogers threw incomplete down the middle, bringing third and goal.

“We talked about it being a week’s worth of work,” Dickert would tell reporters. “It wasn’t a week’s worth of work. It was 9½ months. Grinding, staying together, working. Our captain, Nusi Malani, in the players’ meeting, he said, ‘We’re not going to beat this team because we hate these guys; we’re going to beat this team because we love each other.’”



Washington State Coach Jake Dickert receives the Apple Cup trophy from Gov. Jay Inslee after beating Washington on Saturday. (Lindsey Wasson/AP)

And while that reiterated the idea of the value of listening to an edge rusher, Washington operated from the 10-yard line, and Rogers hit Denzel Boston to the right, and the play gained … nine yards. Stephen Hall, for two seasons a Cougar, managed to get Boston out of bounds with 72 seconds left, meaning a defensive back from Memphis who had played at Northwest Mississippi Community College ought to get a place in the lore in the Pacific Northwest. Here came fourth and goal.


“I remember I put my helmet down,” said wide receiver Josh Meredith from San Diego, who starred with seven receptions for 111 yards and a touchdown. “I walked over. I was behind the crowd; I was just holding my stuff like this” — hands to chest — “like: ‘Get the stop. Get the stop. Get the stop.’”

In the simultaneous thrill and cruelty of sports, the hopes of the abandoned hinged on one play, and eventually that play did snap. Rogers began heading right with a back outside him in what resembled an option play. And while a defense was about to win the eternal love of those steadfast, mistreated Washington State fans, two guys in particular barged into the future storybooks.
One, Edson, a four-season Cougar from Snoqualmie, population 13,000-ish, 28 miles east of Seattle, began dealing with a block and maybe even a hold, but in the mass of flesh you could see his large left arm begin to fight its way out in a lunge.
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