CougEd said:

Elon is brilliant. However, he scares me way more than Agent Orange. He could either make things better or way worse.

But I do need the Cougzone interpretation of what Forrest Trump said about having nine guns pointed at Liz Cheney?... Just hyperbole? Taken out of context? TDS, no big deal? Trump being Trump?

He sure has a weird way of bringing people into the MAGA movement.

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I said the same thing about Trump when he was running the first time. We saw how that turned out…I’ll pass. Elon can stick to making shitty cars.

UberCougars said:

Elon smuggled millions of illegals into swing districts?

WOW! Big, if true!

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Not exactly true but you already knew that. Hypothetical question for you. Is it worth it to lock up millions of innocent people in an effort to catch a few more criminals? Cuz that’s essentially what you’re pushing worried about a handful of illegal voters when the R party is actively working to disenfranchise and discourage millions of LEGAL voters from hitting the polls.

KRUSTYtheCOUG said:

Throughout our history, there have been very few excellent presidential candidates. We do not live in Plato's Republic. We live in the real, complicated, often corrupt and inefficient world where partially flawed or incomplete candidates are put forth

Again - to me - this total BS "they are both shit" sentiment. Really, 95? Trump and Harris are both just the same? No difference? Nom difference between what the elected officials would support and stand for from each if elected?

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Obviously a largely subjective exercise, but while all presidential candidates are flawed, I can't think of a set of competing presidential tickets in any period of time that I can remember, either during my life or by reputation from an earlier era, in which both sets were this bad. I know I don't need to convince you of this with respect to the Rs (although Vance brings it up quite a bit in terms of what most people would consider "good," leaving aside what you may think of his policy positions ... no major scandals, highly accomplished, solid story and background, veteran, law degree from Yale, extremely articulate and intelligent, vast knowledge that he actually can articulate in a relatable manner).

As for the Ds, well, I don't want to contribute to the discord on here by delineating it in detail, but in numerous respects, those two are way below the typical bar in terms of things like apparent demonstrated intelligence, credentials, ability to speak, and other general manner of operation. Especially one of them, while the other has some issues with prevarication and self-described buffoonery, leaving the rest aside.

I realize some of this may reflect the era we are in, with social media and hyperpartisanship contributing to the views we form. Perhaps a Walz type, at least, would not seem so flawed in an earlier news coverage era where you didn't have constant clips of the gaffes and oddities, for example.

But really, again, without trying to make this contentious, just take a step back and compare these two, especially the presidential candidates themselves, with just about any other pairing you could recall--or perhaps even imagine--and it's not even close to what we'd typically see when you think about what most people would want from a presidential candidate on a policy-blind basis, especially considering one didn't even go through a primary process. (It would be pretty brutal if considering policies, too, perhaps even more, but that's another issue.) That isn't the same as saying they're indistinguishable and both "shit," btw, which I realize you are addressing. They are both quite poor but certainly not the same.

Stretch 74 said:

Interesting article from NY Post about what Musk can possibly accomplish if Trump were to name him as the Efficiency Czar or whatever it is called. I think everyone here would root for him to be successful, as only 23% of Americans now trust their government.

The true impact Elon Musk could have if he’s appointed to serve by Trump

Donald Trump has announced that, if elected, he will ask tech billionaire Elon Musk to lead a “government efficiency commission” that will conduct “a complete financial and performance audit of the…

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Within limits, yes. Some of the statements he and Trump have made about things they'll remove and gut will have serious consequences that neither of them acknowledge or likely understand. But...some increases in efficiency and elimination of redundancy and overlap would be welcome.

Stretch 74 said:

Interesting article from NY Post about what Musk can possibly accomplish if Trump were to name him as the Efficiency Czar or whatever it is called. I think everyone here would root for him to be successful, as only 23% of Americans now trust their government.

The true impact Elon Musk could have if he’s appointed to serve by Trump

Donald Trump has announced that, if elected, he will ask tech billionaire Elon Musk to lead a “government efficiency commission” that will conduct “a complete financial and performance audit of the…

nypost.com

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Elon is brilliant. However, he scares me way more than Agent Orange. He could either make things better or way worse.

But I do need the Cougzone interpretation of what Forrest Trump said about having nine guns pointed at Liz Cheney?... Just hyperbole? Taken out of context? TDS, no big deal? Trump being Trump?

He sure has a weird way of bringing people into the MAGA movement.

Stretch 74 said:

Do you run a business, manage a group of employees? Do you keep folks on the team that are not team players, that don't support your goals and projects?

I know that supposed quote from Trump has been thrown around, but when did he make make it, what was the context? I ask because over and over again his comments get twisted around into a meaning that was not in the statement. Was Trump referencing a political opponent like Biden, Harris, Clinton, or was he talking about folks in the deep state? It does make a difference.

Ever talked to someone that fled the communists? I have, and they don't have anything good to say about them.

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You're comparing different things. Letting people go that are obstructionist and who block progress without reason is not the same as firing and publicly trashing people who just don't agree with you across the board. How many times in his first term did he hire people with glowing praise, and then months later when they'd disagreed with some of his ideas, he dumped them and then told the media what a POS that person was, how they've never done anything worthwhile, and didn't belong in the position (which he hired them into)?

Within the last 48 hours, he's been quoted as saying as he'll pursue and prosecute Biden and his entire family. No indication of purpose, cause, or goal, no apparent endgame. And he's said that he'd use the DOJ to go after others who've crossed him in the past. Not for anything that actually appears to have broken the law, other than his wild, baseless claims that they have.

And yes, I have and do manage employees. I keep people who don't agree with me. In fact, I often go to them first for opinions because I want to see what the problems are going to be, and I want them to think of the things that maybe I didn't. I don't want to surround myself with yes men, because that guarantees poor decisions. Trump only wants people who agree with him...which guarantees poor decisions.

KRUSTYtheCOUG said:

Throughout our history, there have been very few excellent presidential candidates. We do not live in Plato's Republic. We live in the real, complicated, often corrupt and inefficient world where partially flawed or incomplete candidates are put forth

Again - to me - this total BS "they are both shit" sentiment. Really, 95? Trump and Harris are both just the same? No difference? Nom difference between what the elected officials would support and stand for from each if elected?

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You want a distinction? Trump is pig shit, Harris is cow shit. Not the same, but I don't care to touch either one.

As for "partially flawed and incomplete candidates," note that I said in the first half of my post "a lot of people would find a candidate they more closely agree with." Never said any of them were perfect. We may be selecting pig drool over pig shit...but that's a bit easier to accept.

95coug said:

I’m in roughly the same place. The winner in 30-35 states is probably predictable, but the remainder will decide things, and I’m not sure which way it’s likely to go.

I don’t expect there will be a lot of polling place mischief in the lead-up or on Election Day. Probably will be some claims of suppression and intimidation from both sides, but in reality those things probably won’t be any more prevalent than usual, they’ll just be more widely reported

Where I expect the issue is in the aftermath, and no matter which way it swings. If Trump wins, I expect huge amounts of whining and crying (literally) from the left, claims of intimidation and fraud, and a bunch of petulant legal challenges. But if Trump loses…I expect widespread claims of intimidation and fraud, a bunch of petulant legal challenges, and a ramping up of the claims of cheating that he’s already been making…plus a high likelihood of actual violence. He’s already been out there telling people that the result is only valid if he wins, and if he loses it’s because Dems cheated. They’re primed for a repeat of January 6…but this time they’ll be doing it where they are, not just at the Capitol.

Really, I think a landslide in one direction or the other, resulting in an early and obvious outcome, is the only thing that prevents some level of violence. And I don’t expect a landslide at all.

Some of the talking heads have predicted us tipping toward civil war again. I think that’s a bit overstated - most Americans are too lazy and ambivalent to do more than complain, they’re not actually going to put skin in the game. But I do expect that the extreme right, the extreme left, or both are going to spent the rest of 2024 embarrassing all of us on the world stage even more than they have for the last 8 years.

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Absolutely there will be whining, and you can bet the farm on that, and it doesn't matter which side wins. I hope you are correct about less chicanery of any kind during the voting and the counting.

One thing that is pretty much a guarantee is that if Trump is the winner not a single one of the snowflakes that say they will leave the country if Trump wins will actually follow through with their empty threat. Unfortunately.

It is likely to come down to the results in the 3 rust belt states. I think if Harris wins them all but Trump can flip the single Omaha electoral vote, the election would be a tie and would be thrown into the House, where Trump would win. Wouldn't THAT be fun and trigger massive whining and gnashing of liberal dentures? Highly unlikely, though.

Here is what could be the predictor if only we knew one thing- have the polling outfits corrected their faulty methods and procedures for doing the sampling? In Trump's previous two campaigns his support was seriously underestimated. So, have they been able to fix those sampling flaws or not? If they have this race is absolutely a toss-up, if they have not made the correction then it is likely Trump will have a strong win, but not a landslide.

95coug said:

Funny thing is she says “way too many people work for government. Just like communism” as a point against the democrats. But apparently, somehow, the openly stated intent to purge all opponents didn’t sound like communism.

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Do you run a business, manage a group of employees? Do you keep folks on the team that are not team players, that don't support your goals and projects?

I know that supposed quote from Trump has been thrown around, but when did he make make it, what was the context? I ask because over and over again his comments get twisted around into a meaning that was not in the statement. Was Trump referencing a political opponent like Biden, Harris, Clinton, or was he talking about folks in the deep state? It does make a difference.

Ever talked to someone that fled the communists? I have, and they don't have anything good to say about them.

Loyal Coug1 said:

I shop at Winco. WAYYYY cheaper than Safeway and in my experience even cheaper than Walmart. Guess I'll be waiting a while.

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We agree!

See, it’s not that hard.

Coug90 said:

Every accusation is a confession. This one is quite obvious.

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Elon smuggled millions of illegals into swing districts?

WOW! Big, if true!

COUGinNCW said:

It comes and goes at the Spokane Safeway I go to and I’ve yet to find it in the cooler.

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I shop at Winco. WAYYYY cheaper than Safeway and in my experience even cheaper than Walmart. Guess I'll be waiting a while.

95coug said:

The only reason that’s true is because people have bought into the party lines. If they’d actually look at the other 8…a lot of people would find a candidate they more closely agree with.

Trump and Harris are both shit. People know that, but vote for them anyway. They shouldn’t.

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Throughout our history, there have been very few excellent presidential candidates. We do not live in Plato's Republic. We live in the real, complicated, often corrupt and inefficient world where partially flawed or incomplete candidates are put forth

Again - to me - this total BS "they are both shit" sentiment. Really, 95? Trump and Harris are both just the same? No difference? Nom difference between what the elected officials would support and stand for from each if elected?

WillieThePimp said:

So Biggs has taken himself out of the gene pool by transing to a eunich.

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Yeah but that guy is all day tough and demands accountability from his youth football team. He would take the Cougs to new heights!

UberCougars said:

21 minutes ago. 1/2 million views. It will have 20 million by morning with 10’s of thousands sharing, commenting, adding to, with community notes improving, always there.

Immensely hyper-topical.

Your editor is as deep as you want to dive.

Fascinating.

*not Bigfoot

** I am positive an editor from dying legacy media will post a perspective sometime tomorrow afternoon or the next day you can parrot if you need to.

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Every accusation is a confession. This one is quite obvious.

UberCougars said:

I have no predictions in this race. I’m pretty fascinated watching this all unfold real-time in a way none of us predicted nor hold any control over.

You want my true belief(s)? Here goes.

First off, who will win. I don’t have any idea. While I see several plausible scenarios or hypotheticals, I suspect ultimately nobody will be happy and everyone will have their reasons. What happens then? Who knows? I guess we’re back to scenarios and hypotheticals.

What impact do my innermost thoughts and feelings have on influencing any of you on anything? None.

So, why do I do it? Same as you all, I guess.

Anyway,

Go Cougs!

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I’m in roughly the same place. The winner in 30-35 states is probably predictable, but the remainder will decide things, and I’m not sure which way it’s likely to go.

I don’t expect there will be a lot of polling place mischief in the lead-up or on Election Day. Probably will be some claims of suppression and intimidation from both sides, but in reality those things probably won’t be any more prevalent than usual, they’ll just be more widely reported

Where I expect the issue is in the aftermath, and no matter which way it swings. If Trump wins, I expect huge amounts of whining and crying (literally) from the left, claims of intimidation and fraud, and a bunch of petulant legal challenges. But if Trump loses…I expect widespread claims of intimidation and fraud, a bunch of petulant legal challenges, and a ramping up of the claims of cheating that he’s already been making…plus a high likelihood of actual violence. He’s already been out there telling people that the result is only valid if he wins, and if he loses it’s because Dems cheated. They’re primed for a repeat of January 6…but this time they’ll be doing it where they are, not just at the Capitol.

Really, I think a landslide in one direction or the other, resulting in an early and obvious outcome, is the only thing that prevents some level of violence. And I don’t expect a landslide at all.

Some of the talking heads have predicted us tipping toward civil war again. I think that’s a bit overstated - most Americans are too lazy and ambivalent to do more than complain, they’re not actually going to put skin in the game. But I do expect that the extreme right, the extreme left, or both are going to spent the rest of 2024 embarrassing all of us on the world stage even more than they have for the last 8 years.

Funny thing is she says “way too many people work for government. Just like communism” as a point against the democrats. But apparently, somehow, the openly stated intent to purge all opponents didn’t sound like communism.

Loyal Coug1 said:

The really fat guy looks a lot like Biggs........

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So Biggs has taken himself out of the gene pool by transing to a eunich.

Stretch 74 said:

Sharing a story about a great immigrant. Heart warming to see stories like this.

A Pro-Trump Immigrant's Story

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Wonderful story. Thanks for sharing.

Fire Kirk Schulz said:

Finally found 'Ol Crimson Lager here in Spokanada-- Probably available at other Spokompton Safeways as well.

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It comes and goes at the Spokane Safeway I go to and I’ve yet to find it in the cooler.

Loyal Coug1 said:

I gave $100 to the Basketball Matching Campaign, which of course netted us nothing in terms of players. I'm down for fudging forth a few bucks again, but sorry the lack of transparency of the Cougar Collective turns me off. And the AD and Pac-2 for that matter. That's probably the way of the NIL and Athletic world, which is fine. Just not for me. Especially since 'Ol Crimson Lager appears to be unobtainable in my city.

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Finally found 'Ol Crimson Lager here in Spokanada-- Probably available at other Spokompton Safeways as well.