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Valid perspective, but…

Insisting on choosing a D or R candidate just perpetuates the issue with the 2 party system and incentivizes neither of them to return to the middle and pick a better candidate.
Valid perspective, but…

Insisting on choosing a D or R candidate just perpetuates the issue with the 2 party system and incentivizes neither of them to return to the middle and pick a better candidate.

We have 10 candidates this year. Pick a different one. If 50 million people do that, the wheels start to come off the 2 party system.
If wishes and buts were candy and nuts...

That isn't the system we have and I'd say history has demonstrated we were doomed to be in a two-party system. The chances of a grassroots movement forming to bring forth a viable third option by refusing to vote for one of the two viable candidates is about the same chance that the COUGS win the national championship this year.

Again, you have TWO viable options. The current apparatus and party infrastructure in place makes this a brute fact. Standing aside in the naive belief you are making some difference or meaningful choice will do absolutely nothing in this real world. Perhaps you would also like a medal for being above the dirty pit of presidential elections. Personally to me, it's a cop-out to hide behind the argument that "my vote doesn't really matter in this state anyway".

Standing on the sidelines certainly is what one political party is wanting. They are counting on the tired and lazy mindset that "both sides are the same, they're both terrible". Taihtsat

This is a young team

If were thinking about Dickert leaving for another program, where's another fit that's better? Not much jumped out on this list of "coaches on the hot seat". Maybe Purdue or Cal if they open? I know Dickert showed up on lists last season, but none (Nebraska, Wisconsin, etc.) really seemed realistic IMO.

Generally speaking, Cal and Purdue are coaching graveyards.
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Dickert to Canzano: “We need to go to a 28-team playoff"...

Seriously though, imagine the hype building 3-2-1 weeks out going into a 28 team tournament.

The revenue this tournament would generate would be immense. How much would the players get, I wonder?
I don’t agree with the argument that it makes regular season games meaningless either. North Carolina/Duke, Kentucky/Memphis, don’t have this problem in basketball. You are still jockeying for position and home field. Alabama and their fans still want to beat Georgia in the regular season. It just puts more teams in the conversation that normally wouldn’t be which is more exciting for everyone.

Baseball has too many damn games but it’s infinitely more exciting for more fan bases now since they’ve expanded the playoffs. When it used to be 4 teams, 3/4 of the league was out of it by September.

Dickert to Canzano: “We need to go to a 28-team playoff"...

Look at what March Madness has done for basketball, it wouldn't be that difficult to replicate that in football. As Leach explained, everyone else has it figured out. they do it in High School, FCS has an expanded playoff, and the NFL has 14 out of 32 teams make the playoffs. You can use the bowls as playoff games. I say start with 32 teams, that means the teams that play in the finals play 5 extra games. Everyone has to play 9 conference games, cut the season to 11 games, eliminate the conference championship. so the teams making it to the finals play 16 games. Currently they play 12 games, plus the conference championship, plus 3-4 playoff games, they are at 15-16 with the current set up.

The problem is the bowls have lost all their meaning, players opt into the portal in December, and the team that qualified for the bowl is a shell of the team that won 8-10 games. A playoff format using the bowls would help 16 bowls a whole lot. You can still have the others for the teams that don't make the playoffs, heck you could even turn the rest of the bowls into an NIT type of format. The lessor bowls are dying, a playoff format could help save them. A 32 team format would require 31 sites for all the games, all meaningful games.
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Yeah, with you on that. I know I'm just voting a lean and holding my nose. My recollection (I'm not in Washington now, but in another state with a much different approach to voting -- that's another subject) was that most of those candidates in the guide tended to represent single-issue or otherwise cabined/siloed views (e.g., libertarian, green, "constitution," etc.) that tended to be either extreme or, at least, targeted and approaching things through a narrow lens, but the majority candidates are so extreme and otherwise ridiculous at this point that I wouldn't be surprised if one of those other candidates aligned with my views better than either the R or D.
Based on exactly the same thoughts, I actually went to the websites for all 10 candidates and read their planks. Some of them are certainly narrow (I.e., capitalism has failed and needs to be eliminated), and some are focused mostly on a couple of things, but nearly all of them at least give broad strokes on the major issues. I narrowed it to 2 who could get through full paragraphs without saying something idiotic, which neither Trump or Harris could manage.

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I agree, but I think those more centrist people are currently in a position where they feel forced to vote their lean…not their choice. The overwhelming majority are holding their nose and casting a vote against one candidate.

When there are 10 on the ballot - as there are in Washington - most should be able to not hold their nose so tightly. Reading through the 10 platforms, there were none that I agreed with completely…but the D and R ones were among the most outlandish, and had more pillars that I disagree with than most of the platforms did.
Yeah, with you on that. I know I'm just voting a lean and holding my nose. My recollection (I'm not in Washington now, but in another state with a much different approach to voting -- that's another subject) was that most of those candidates in the guide tended to represent single-issue or otherwise cabined/siloed views (e.g., libertarian, green, "constitution," etc.) that tended to be either extreme or, at least, targeted and approaching things through a narrow lens, but the majority candidates are so extreme and otherwise ridiculous at this point that I wouldn't be surprised if one of those other candidates aligned with my views better than either the R or D.

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I used to believe a third party that positioned itself as centrist could be viable, potentially enough to actually govern at some point. Centrist, "sane" candidates have a very hard time winning primaries in the two-party system. A third party could have its own primary process, and if it somehow could get enough attention and dollars, you would think it could, or at least should, work. Most Americans want similar things ... e.g., centrist Democrat policies from the 90s/early 2000s. No, not denying science, trying to make America a theological nation, or meritless armed conflict, as more extreme Republicans of that era did. Not about cutting taxes to the bone, running huge deficits to spend on defense, and so on. But also not trying to frame everything in identity group politics or going way out on the tail of extreme policies regarding myriad issues (e.g., the border, illegal immigration, policing and safety, DEI, transgender matters, censorship, abortion, court-packing, reparations, and various other things), many of which wouldn't have even had majority support in places like Berkeley in that era.

Things have gotten so extreme, with apparent disagreement over things that shouldn't be all that controversial--each day is so insane with the news flow that I can't discern whether this is just election-related posturing or something indicative of greater partisan divergence--that it no longer is clear to me the sizeable, silent, largely apolitical middle who just wants things that make sense could ever come together to get it done.

The media also is a massive problem. It has leaned left at least for the past six decades, and it was Murdoch who first created the current-day polarized talking head shitshow with Fox, of course, but the left-leaning cable outlets at this point are just as bad if not worse, and the legacy MSM isn't far behind. This contributes to further demonization of the other side and polarization, and no centrist, dispassionate media outlet ever is viable despite a few attempts to start them over the years. What gets viewed, consumed, and ads purchased is extreme bullshit on both sides, blasted out to political obsessives who lap it up.

Try looking at the "other side's" material for a little bit on social media. You'll find it repugnant at a visceral level, yes, and I can barely do it on either side, but gut through it for a few minutes and realize how the same world is portrayed completely differently. Balanced views simply aren't presented. Facts that don't support that side's narrative, which at this point is just that the other side is abhorrent, corrupt, and will put you in camps and ruin the country, regardless of which side you are on, aren't reported even if they are merely neutral or clarifying. There is no place for moderates, even though they probably still represent a plurality in this country. They are left to try to look at the ridiculous shit from both sides and trying to discern truth from caricatures and absurdity.

That probably will piss off everyone, which itself would be telling vis-à-vis the viability of centrists now and going forward.
I agree, but I think those more centrist people are currently in a position where they feel forced to vote their lean…not their choice. The overwhelming majority are holding their nose and casting a vote against one candidate.

When there are 10 on the ballot - as there are in Washington - most should be able to not hold their nose so tightly. Reading through the 10 platforms, there were none that I agreed with completely…but the D and R ones were among the most outlandish, and had more pillars that I disagree with than most of the platforms did.
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Valid perspective, but…

Insisting on choosing a D or R candidate just perpetuates the issue with the 2 party system and incentivizes neither of them to return to the middle and pick a better candidate.

We have 10 candidates this year. Pick a different one. If 50 million people do that, the wheels start to come off the 2 party system.
I used to believe a third party that positioned itself as centrist could be viable, potentially enough to actually govern at some point. Centrist, "sane" candidates have a very hard time winning primaries in the two-party system. A third party could have its own primary process, and if it somehow could get enough attention and dollars, you would think it could, or at least should, work. Most Americans want similar things ... e.g., centrist Democrat policies from the 90s/early 2000s. No, not denying science, trying to make America a theological nation, or meritless armed conflict, as more extreme Republicans of that era did. Not about cutting taxes to the bone, running huge deficits to spend on defense, and so on. But also not trying to frame everything in identity group politics or going way out on the tail of extreme policies regarding myriad issues (e.g., the border, illegal immigration, policing and safety, DEI, transgender matters, censorship, abortion, court-packing, reparations, and various other things), many of which wouldn't have even had majority support in places like Berkeley in that era.

Things have gotten so extreme, with apparent disagreement over things that shouldn't be all that controversial--each day is so insane with the news flow that I can't discern whether this is just election-related posturing or something indicative of greater partisan divergence--that it no longer is clear to me the sizeable, silent, largely apolitical middle who just wants things that make sense could ever come together to get it done.

The media also is a massive problem. It has leaned left at least for the past six decades, and it was Murdoch who first created the current-day polarized talking head shitshow with Fox, of course, but the left-leaning cable outlets at this point are just as bad if not worse, and the legacy MSM isn't far behind. This contributes to further demonization of the other side and polarization, and no centrist, dispassionate media outlet ever is viable despite a few attempts to start them over the years. What gets viewed, consumed, and ads purchased is extreme bullshit on both sides, blasted out to political obsessives who lap it up.

Try looking at the "other side's" material for a little bit on social media. You'll find it repugnant at a visceral level, yes, and I can barely do it on either side, but gut through it for a few minutes and realize how the same world is portrayed completely differently. Balanced views simply aren't presented. Facts that don't support that side's narrative, which at this point is just that the other side is abhorrent, corrupt, and will put you in camps and ruin the country, regardless of which side you are on, aren't reported even if they are merely neutral or clarifying. There is no place for moderates, even though they probably still represent a plurality in this country. They are left to try to look at the ridiculous shit from both sides and to attempt to discern truth or meaning from caricatures and absurdity.

That probably will piss off everyone, which itself would be telling vis-à-vis the viability of centrists now and going forward.

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Maybe you think by not casting a vote for either you're making a moral stance to be above them both. You're in good company with several others on this board using the demographics of Washington as a cop-out. Congratulations, your medal is in the mail! Taihtsat
Valid perspective, but…

Insisting on choosing a D or R candidate just perpetuates the issue with the 2 party system and incentivizes neither of them to return to the middle and pick a better candidate.

We have 10 candidates this year. Pick a different one. If 50 million people do that, the wheels start to come off the 2 party system.

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Just read a ton of remarkable reviews on Rudy's. Looks great, thanks for the tip, Stretch!
I wandered in there off the street when I stayed a night in Albuquerque in about 2009. Didn’t look them up, didn’t even look at the name. Looking at the reviews and pictures…that’s the place.

Damn good, and no messing around with unnecessary things like plates and utensils.
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Hilarious when Democrats try to bring up morality in presidential debates.

I'm pretty sure EVERYONE has baggage from one time or another, but LAWS and current/recent actions speak the loudest.

Great job with illegal immigrants and sanctuary cities guys. Bravo!

Tell me again what action/law Trump had for a 12-year old Houston girl to get rated?

You guys should donate more money to help those guys get sex changes.

Oh wait... maybe more covid shots since people shouldn't be able to choose.

I 200% support government funded sex changes. Remove the fcking crazy from the gene pool altogether! Money well spent.

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And yes, the Soros family brought a lawsuit against the Soros family . The lawsuit was settled out of court without discovery when the Soros family trust agreed to settle with the Soros family trust.
Mmmkay…sounds like some deflection, but you do you. Case closed I guess 🤷

You didn’t answer my first questions. Does the Soros family have something to do with 99.9% of your daily life being digital and completely fine for you, but you can’t handle a computer counting your vote?

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Breathe.

Smart people will notice this is an issue brought by Michigans Secretary of State, Joyce something. She is a Democrat.

If you’d like to know more about the issues voters are experiencing with her machines, X makes it easy for folks with an IQ above 60, to find additional sources of information to help you understand, with a simple click.

If you still can’t figure it out, let me know. I’ll be here to help you.

Good luck!
I do fine navigating X thanks though! It’s a good thing everything posted on X is 100% accurate and a reliable source of information! 😂

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Is your money buried in the back yard? You send messages to people via letter and stamp? Do you renew your vehicle tabs and license online or go wait in line for an hour at the DMV/vehicle licensing offices? All of these very personal things we are totally fine with doing electronically nowadays, yet somehow this one is massively fraudulent?
Didn’t Dominion already sue the tits off of Fox or OAN and win or they settled? Probably nuthin…🤷

And who TF is Robby Starbuck 😂. Does he work with Stormy Daniels too?
And yes, the Soros family brought a lawsuit against the Soros family . The lawsuit was settled out of court without discovery when the Soros family trust agreed to settle with the Soros family trust.

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Breathe.

Smart people will notice this is an issue brought by Michigans Secretary of State, Joyce something. She is a Democrat.

If you’d like to know more about the issues voters are experiencing with her machines, X makes it easy for folks with an IQ above 60, to find additional sources of information to help you understand, with a simple click.

If you still can’t figure it out, let me know. I’ll be here to help you.

Good luck!

OT- Oops, voter fraud is underway

Is your money buried in the back yard? You send messages to people via letter and stamp? Do you renew your vehicle tabs and license online or go wait in line for an hour at the DMV/vehicle licensing offices? All of these very personal things we are totally fine with doing electronically nowadays, yet somehow this one is massively fraudulent?
Didn’t Dominion already sue the tits off of Fox or OAN and win or they settled? Probably nuthin…🤷

And who TF is Robby Starbuck 😂. Does he work with Stormy Daniels too?

Dickert to Canzano: “We need to go to a 28-team playoff"...

If we’d beat BSU we’d be top 10 in the country RN. I agree the early polls are silly and mostly meaningless but when you have the resume you have the resume. I’m not sure it makes much of a difference by mid Nov where you started.

I'd agree that by mid-November, the polls have done a good of sorting themselves out. Still, I'm not sure that we could be in the Top 10 if we had beaten BSU. With our NR starting position, I'd bet that we'd be #15 right now if we were 8-0. If we were ranked before the season, I'd guess that we would currently be #12 if we were undefeated.
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