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Dickert to Canzano: “We need to go to a 28-team playoff"...

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SaveFerris said:
Agree with Dickert. Leach wanted 64 with a minimum of 16 teams. The bowls are meaningless, but could still be used for the playoffs. It won't happen because of whatever the f***.

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I truly believe Leach started the conversation. I know I'm wrong....but I think he was the first public figure that put it out there, publicly.
Credit to coach Leach!
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Dickert to Canzano: “We need to go to a 28-team playoff"...

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BleedCrimsonandGray said:
We wouldn't be top 15. Maybe top 20.

You said it yourself, our brand is garbage to the pollsters. Every blue blood with 1 or 2 losses would be in front of us.
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But our logo is the best. I guess that's not working, either!

If Dickert ever leaves, we need to find a coach like Mark Few, who wins every year and will NEVER leave Pullman. It's possible.
Then our brand will mean something.

I feel sorry for Gonzaga Basketball when Few retires. Seriously. They'll be the Nebraska of the past. Look at UCLA.
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Dickert to Canzano: “We need to go to a 28-team playoff"...

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M-I-Coug said:
Here's the problem with our current system:

We can all agree that pre-season Top 25 polls are a joke. Next week, on Election Day 11/5, the CFP Polls come out for the first time.

Top 25 Pre-season polls will always have:

Michigan
Ohio State
Alabama
Texas
Georgia
Oregon
USC
Clemson
Ole Miss
Tennessee
Oklahoma
Notre Dame

Never will they have a Washington State in a Pre-Season (August) Poll. Typically never.

Fast forward. We have a good year. Now we have to crawl our way into the Top 12 to make it to the CFP!

Take this year for example. If we we're let say ranked #23 at the beginning of the season, at 7-1, (granted, we really have not beaten anybody, (both Power 4 schools, UW and TT are NOT ranked), nonetheless, we begin the season at # 23 against Portland St.

Today we would be a Top 15 team. We win out at 11-1, we would in the the Top 12 and make it to the College Football Playoffs.

Because of our "brand name" in the minds of the pollsters, we can all agree...the process isn't fair.
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We wouldn't be top 15. Maybe top 20.

You said it yourself, our brand is garbage to the pollsters. Every blue blood with 1 or 2 losses would be in front of us.
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Dickert to Canzano: “We need to go to a 28-team playoff"...

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Here's the problem with our current system:

We can all agree that pre-season Top 25 polls are a joke. Next week, on Election Day 11/5, the CFP Polls come out for the first time.

Top 25 Pre-season polls will usually have:

Michigan
Ohio State
Alabama
Texas
Georgia
Oregon
USC
Clemson
Ole Miss
Tennessee
Oklahoma
Notre Dame

Never will they have a Washington State in a Pre-Season (August) Poll. Typically never.

Fast forward. We have a good year. Now we have to crawl our way, (starting the end of October at #22) into the Top 12 to make it to the CFP! The odds are about 15% we make it.

Take this year for example. If we we're let say ranked #23 at the beginning of the season, at 7-1, (granted, we really have not beaten anybody, (both Power 4 schools, UW and TT are NOT ranked), nonetheless, we begin the season at # 23 against Portland St.

Today we might be a Top 15 team, (instead of #22). We win out at 11-1, we would absolutely be in the Top 12 and make it to the College Football Playoffs. Granted, we have not beat a ranked opponent. This example could be for years in the past, or any year in the future, where we have beaten ranked opponents.

My point is....starting let's say at #24 in August, is a lot easier than starting at # 22 in November.

Because of our "brand name" in the minds of the national pollsters, we can all agree...the process simply isn't fair.
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Stretch 74 said:
The uw mutts may have an opening! LOL
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That would cost dub a lot. He's making $7.75 w/ 6 years left on his contract. Pretty sure he gets a mulligan year 1 even if they were to lose out. I'm good with Fisch sticking on muttlake.

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I don't see any among likely openings either. Purdue is likely the best possibility. Dickert is a midwest guy and I always have my eye primarily on that area with him. I hear you regarding last year but think Indiana may have been realistic if our season hadn't fallen apart like it did. Cignetti is absolutely killing it there, obviously. If I recall correctly, Michigan State was looking pretty realistic, but then the fortunes of WSU and OSU diverged and they wound up going with Smith.
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Yeah, good point that Michigan State did look realistic before the slide last season. Not a lot of smoke so far this year, but who knows what's happening behind the scenes.
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M-I-Coug said:
Just read a ton of remarkable reviews on Rudy's. Looks great, thanks for the tip, Stretch!
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You are welcome, of course. :) You will likely have to stand in line for a few minutes to order, but don't be deterred-the wait is worth it.

Now if anyone goes to Salt Lake City anytime soon and want some pizza, go directly to one of the 5 (?) outlets of The Pie Pizzaria. We hit that place every trip to SLC since about 2002 when we played Utah in a non-con game.
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Dickert to Canzano: “We need to go to a 28-team playoff"...

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JOHN CANZANO, October 30th, 2024, The Bald Faced Truth
Washington State football coach Jake Dickert shared something he’s been thinking about with me this week.

“We need to go to a 28-team playoff,” Dickert told me. “The kids have proven they only want to play in the playoffs, so why not? Let’s give the people what they want. There are no conference champions. The conferences are so big. So let’s open it up and have a real playoff like Division II and Division III. They find a way to do 28 teams. That would create a lot of excitement.”

The Cougars are 7-1 with four games left on the schedule. The first College Football Playoff rankings will be released next Tuesday. WSU isn’t eligible for a conference championship berth this season. Dickert knows his team, even at 11-1, would need help to reach the 12-team playoff field with an at-large berth.

Scrub Conference Title Games?​

Dickert said he’d like to see college football move the start of the season to mid-August, do away with conference championship games, and start that 28-team playoff a week after the end of the season.

Would TV go for it?

The conference championship games are included as part of the media-rights package. The networks paid for them and won’t give them up. The current rights deals would need to sunset. That pushes this conversation out to at least 2028 or so. The CFP and ESPN also signed a six-year, $7.8 billion contract last spring. ESPN holds the rights to the event through the 2031-32 season.

Would the Big Ten and SEC be on board?

It’s like Gordon Gekko said: “Money never sleeps.” If there’s more revenue in it, they’d be all ears. But those conferences have their ideas about the future. There’s also the question of what would happen with bowl games.

“These kids want to play in meaningful games,” Dickert said. “The bowl system has had its turn. It’s time to evolve into a bigger playoff system. It took us so long to get a two-team playoff, then a four-team playoff, and now we’re at 12.

“It will get there.”
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Hilarious when Democrats try to bring up morality in presidential debates.

I'm pretty sure EVERYONE has baggage from one time or another, but LAWS and current/recent actions speak the loudest.

Great job with illegal immigrants and sanctuary cities guys. Bravo!

Tell me again what action/law Trump had for a 12-year old Houston girl to get rated?

You guys should donate more money to help those guys get sex changes.

Oh wait... maybe more covid shots since people shouldn't be able to choose.
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SaveFerris said:
If were thinking about Dickert leaving for another program, where's another fit that's better? Not much jumped out on this list of "coaches on the hot seat". Maybe Purdue or Cal if they open? I know Dickert showed up on lists last season, but none (Nebraska, Wisconsin, etc.) really seemed realistic IMO.

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The uw mutts may have an opening! LOL
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M-I-Coug said:
Amazing tickets prices for the Los Lobos on 11/16. Tickets are surprisingly inexpensive, and I get it, it's Albuquerque, but still, not used to seeing ticket prices from 20 years ago.

And, isn't the Car Wash in downtown Albuquerque a now a famous tourist trap?

T-Shirts, key chains, bumper stickers, trinkets & trash, you name it. The series virtually everyone has seen. Walter White and Jesse Pinkman!

Looking forward to the adventure.
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Rudy's BBQ in Al-B-Q was excellent! And I confirmed that by going to Rudy's BBQ in Colorado Springs last fall when we were in CO to play CSU. Looking forward to another visit next year.
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KRUSTYtheCOUG said:
Willfully obtuse with a dash of motivated-reasoning pretty much summarizes your "argument" as you desperately cling to the "democracy" false-equivelancy.

Thank you, counselor, you may step down. As Vinny Gambini said to judge Chamberlain Haller "I'm done with this guy, your honor"! Taihtsat
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I've already explained this to you. Your deficient memory may be related to the brainwashing. You are trying to make it Rs versus Ds, when the framing should be establishment versus non-establishment. Use the search function on this website if you choose.

Thank you again for admitting the Ds democracy rhetoric is BS. There is no false equivalency, because no comparison was being made. The Ds are full of BS on that topic, as you have admitted.
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dgibbons said:
Thank you for admitting the Democrats are full of shit on the democracy rhetoric. Not sure why it took this long, but you made it.
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Willfully obtuse with a dash of motivated-reasoning pretty much summarizes your "argument" as you desperately cling to the "democracy" false-equivelancy.

Thank you, counselor, you may step down. As Vinny Gambini said to judge Chamberlain Haller "I'm done with this guy, your honor"! Taihtsat
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KRUSTYtheCOUG said:
So back to presidential politics...if Harris is wulff and trump is rolovich and you need to hire a new coach having only two options, you clearly would choose rolovich (trump).

Yet in this election you abstain when there clearly is a superior candidate. Why the lack of courage to express your clear preference?

Like 90 pointed out...you "never" voted for trump but continue to defend him at nearly every turn with rationalizations and whataboutisms.

Maybe you think by not casting a vote for either you're making a moral stance to be above them both. You're in good company with several others on this board using the demographics of Washington as a cop-out. Congratulations, your medal is in the mail! Taihtsat
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Thank you for admitting the Democrats are full of shit on the democracy rhetoric. Not sure why it took this long, but you made it.
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dgibbons said:
You’re admitting that the Democrats are full of shit about democracy even though they’ve appointed themselves as the defenders of democracy. Did your brain survive that deviation from your programming?

Wulff was totally incompetent. Rolovich caused himself problems. Makes sense to people who are not brainwashed. Look up their winning percentages if you need some data.
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So back to presidential politics...if Harris is wulff and trump is rolovich and you need to hire a new coach having only two options, you clearly would choose rolovich (trump).

Yet in this election you abstain when there clearly is a superior candidate. Why the lack of courage to express your clear preference?

Like 90 pointed out...you "never" voted for trump but continue to defend him at nearly every turn with rationalizations and whataboutisms.

Maybe you think by not casting a vote for either you're making a moral stance to be above them both. You're in good company with several others on this board using the demographics of Washington as a cop-out. Congratulations, your medal is in the mail! Taihtsat
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Cougs 22nd in both polls.

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COCoug said:
I guess I am a pretty daring dude!
I certainly don't question anyone's "loyalty". If you are reading and posting on this board, you are clearly in the top 2% of loyal fans. My point is that for a team like WSU to win in 2024 in college football is much more difficult than ever before. We are dealing with NIL, the transfer portal and we are no longer in a major conference. Those are challenges that didn't exist even 2 years ago. So comparing this team to any team in the past really isn't fair, but even in that imaginary world, we are still outcompeting 90% of previous Cougar teams.

Clearly anything can happen, but with regards to being "sustainable", where do you see the next loss?
I guess we should just continue to dismiss the only stat the matters and really drill down on the lack of perfection on every play by every player.
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I’d assume most folks here have watched sports for many years and seen some pretty bizarre things. I’ve seen us blow a 40 point second half lead. I’ve seen 16 seeds beat 1 seeds in the NCAA tourney. Douglas beat Tyson, the Miracle on Ice, App State/Michigan, OSU/USC, on and on. This is sports and why it’s fun. You take the W when you can get it, any way you can get it, and coaches find coachable moments and coach. You are what your record says you are and this is a good team and coaching staff right now. Of course there’s room for improvement, there always is.
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Amazing tickets prices for the Los Lobos on 11/16. Tickets are surprisingly inexpensive, and I get it, it's Albuquerque, but still, not used to seeing ticket prices from 20 years ago.

And, isn't the Car Wash in downtown Albuquerque a now a famous tourist trap?

T-Shirts, key chains, bumper stickers, trinkets & trash, you name it. The series virtually everyone has seen. Walter White and Jesse Pinkman!

Looking forward to the adventure.
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425cougfan said:
I don't see any among likely openings either. Purdue is likely the best possibility. Dickert is a midwest guy and I always have my eye primarily on that area with him. I hear you regarding last year but think Indiana may have been realistic if our season hadn't fallen apart like it did. Cignetti is absolutely killing it there, obviously. If I recall correctly, Michigan State was looking pretty realistic, but then the fortunes of WSU and OSU diverged and they wound up going with Smith.
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If we go 11-1 he’s going to be a consideration for openings. Fortunately he’s still got the 702 yard defensive performance from two years ago to answer for, so he probably is a better fit at Pullman High than Purdue.
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dgibbons said:
Of course you reject the premise. Thats what losers say when they’re beaten and know it. Heard it many times in the courtroom. Nothing better to say, it’s denial.

For your analogy, take your pick of mediocre coaches. Rolovich I guess.
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Probably a pretty good comp. He’s got the potential to get outscored 38-0 in the second half twice in a short time.
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Loyal Coug1 said:
Kinda sounds like you are the one arguing morality, Gibby. And to respond to your relevancy questions, No, No, No, and No that is just stupid.

So what if she dated Willie Brown 30 years ago and he did her a couple of favors? Like that never happens or is somehow immoral? Spend any time in the real world?

Harris failed the bar exam once, which is far from uncommon. You know that. She passed it on try #2. Big F-ing deal. And again - 30, 35 years ago? What is your point counselor?
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its under his hat
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SaveFerris said:
If were thinking about Dickert leaving for another program, where's another fit that's better? Not much jumped out on this list of "coaches on the hot seat". Maybe Purdue or Cal if they open? I know Dickert showed up on lists last season, but none (Nebraska, Wisconsin, etc.) really seemed realistic IMO.

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I don't see any among likely openings either. Purdue is likely the best possibility. Dickert is a midwest guy and I always have my eye primarily on that area with him. I hear you regarding last year but think Indiana may have been realistic if our season hadn't fallen apart like it did. Cignetti is absolutely killing it there, obviously. If I recall correctly, Michigan State was looking pretty realistic, but then the fortunes of WSU and OSU diverged and they wound up going with Smith.
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