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I vaguely recall the statement, but not the details. It didn’t matter to me, I knew in 2018 that I wasn’t voting for her
You mean like 100,000,000 million spent on condoms for Hamas... now that is math that doesn't work
 
Oh ffs, she's not unintelligent. She was a lawyer, a prosecutor and DA and then was elected to the senate and served as VP. Her selection as VP was def strategic and WORKED. She's totally "qualified" and not remotely a DEI. Do you have DEIDS?
Well, I have seen comments/stories from folks that watched her through her career coming up in California that have some serious disagreements with your assessment. In particular, Harmeet Dhillon excoriated her abilities and I believe had several run-ins with her. And as I saw some times in Boeing, just because someone held a position did NOT mean that they were qualified for the position or that they performed well in it.

And I will remind you that she absolutely WAS a DEI pick. Recall how Biden was struggling in the first few primaries, and was then heading to South Carolina. So what happened there? Biden promised to pick a black woman as his running mate if James Clyburn would endorse him. See, he did not promise to pick the very best candidate for the job, he promised to pick someone from a particular ethnic group, from a preferred minority class (actually a double minority class), in order to get Clyburn's backing and promotion. That got him the win in SC and then with all the black support from Clyburn and the others that hopped on the train, Biden was able to win.

So I am really curious what she has actually done that makes you think she is so great. Was it her outstanding performance while running for president in 2019? (reminder-she was the first one to drop out, she didn't last long enough to get a single vote, and her campaign was reportedly a real clusterfock) Were you astonished by here sterling performance at controlling the border and finding the root causes of the immigrant invasion? Did you love the work she and Joe did on the economy? Seriously, what were her actual accomplishments in her 4 years in office? Please don't give me what one lefty did in a panel discussion one time- he said her top accomplishment was that she had voted in the Senate to break ties on legislation.

And after 3.5 years in office Kamala gets handed the nomination for the Democrat party, so then what happened? She pissed away pretty much advantage that she had and lost ground in every state except the People's Republic of Washington;
-She picks Walz as a running mate, a guy that is clearly a nut job.
-Her VP pick was from a state that she didn't need help with because a Dem was basically guaranteed to win it already.
-Her team did a piss poor job of vetting Walz.
-She ignored picking a running mate that almost surely would have won the most crucial swing state, Pennsylvania.
-She likely caved to the radical left wing of her party because Shapiro is Jewish.
-The first thing she did after taking over was to disappear for 4-6 weeks, not doing interviews, not taking questions.
-When she did finally answer a few questions, she did so extremely poorly-bumbling and fumbling her way through word salad after word salad after word salad. It really was painful to watch.
-And I mean this completely seriously-how ****ing dumb do you have to be to say that you would do nothing differently than what she and Biden had done the previous 4 years?
-How clueless are you go to an interview (finally!) with Fox News host Brett Bair, a guy that is know as being fair, with her in your face attitude and looking like she had just eaten a 5 pound shit sandwich before sitting down?
-How dumb are you, Kamala, to only go on a few shows and podcasts that pretty much have an audience of your voters already?
-Did Kamala show great political instincts by avoiding going on the Joe Rogan podcast, the guy with the biggest podcast audience in the country? I think not.
- How qualified a candidate did Kamala Harris turn out to be when she had 2-3 times as much money as Trump, had the advantage of owning ~95% of the media covering for her and attacking Trump 24x7, had incumbency in her favor, and still blew it?
-Exactly how smart a candidate/person is Kamala when she was clueless that the people out here across the country wanted some vision of change, and wanted to hear something positive and not convicted felon/fascist/Nazi/Hitler/worst human alive?
 
You mean like 100,000,000 million spent on condoms for Hamas... now that is math that doesn't work
Your attempts at "gotchas" would hurt a lot more if:
1. It was actually something I said/wrote, or....
2. Your claim was actually accurate.

 
Well, I have seen comments/stories from folks that watched her through her career coming up in California that have some serious disagreements with your assessment. In particular, Harmeet Dhillon excoriated her abilities and I believe had several run-ins with her. And as I saw some times in Boeing, just because someone held a position did NOT mean that they were qualified for the position or that they performed well in it.

And I will remind you that she absolutely WAS a DEI pick. Recall how Biden was struggling in the first few primaries, and was then heading to South Carolina. So what happened there? Biden promised to pick a black woman as his running mate if James Clyburn would endorse him. See, he did not promise to pick the very best candidate for the job, he promised to pick someone from a particular ethnic group, from a preferred minority class (actually a double minority class), in order to get Clyburn's backing and promotion. That got him the win in SC and then with all the black support from Clyburn and the others that hopped on the train, Biden was able to win.

So I am really curious what she has actually done that makes you think she is so great. Was it her outstanding performance while running for president in 2019? (reminder-she was the first one to drop out, she didn't last long enough to get a single vote, and her campaign was reportedly a real clusterfock) Were you astonished by here sterling performance at controlling the border and finding the root causes of the immigrant invasion? Did you love the work she and Joe did on the economy? Seriously, what were her actual accomplishments in her 4 years in office? Please don't give me what one lefty did in a panel discussion one time- he said her top accomplishment was that she had voted in the Senate to break ties on legislation.

And after 3.5 years in office Kamala gets handed the nomination for the Democrat party, so then what happened? She pissed away pretty much advantage that she had and lost ground in every state except the People's Republic of Washington;
-She picks Walz as a running mate, a guy that is clearly a nut job.
-Her VP pick was from a state that she didn't need help with because a Dem was basically guaranteed to win it already.
-Her team did a piss poor job of vetting Walz.
-She ignored picking a running mate that almost surely would have won the most crucial swing state, Pennsylvania.
-She likely caved to the radical left wing of her party because Shapiro is Jewish.
-The first thing she did after taking over was to disappear for 4-6 weeks, not doing interviews, not taking questions.
-When she did finally answer a few questions, she did so extremely poorly-bumbling and fumbling her way through word salad after word salad after word salad. It really was painful to watch.
-And I mean this completely seriously-how ****ing dumb do you have to be to say that you would do nothing differently than what she and Biden had done the previous 4 years?
-How clueless are you go to an interview (finally!) with Fox News host Brett Bair, a guy that is know as being fair, with her in your face attitude and looking like she had just eaten a 5 pound shit sandwich before sitting down?
-How dumb are you, Kamala, to only go on a few shows and podcasts that pretty much have an audience of your voters already?
-Did Kamala show great political instincts by avoiding going on the Joe Rogan podcast, the guy with the biggest podcast audience in the country? I think not.
- How qualified a candidate did Kamala Harris turn out to be when she had 2-3 times as much money as Trump, had the advantage of owning ~95% of the media covering for her and attacking Trump 24x7, had incumbency in her favor, and still blew it?
-Exactly how smart a candidate/person is Kamala when she was clueless that the people out here across the country wanted some vision of change, and wanted to hear something positive and not convicted felon/fascist/Nazi/Hitler/worst human alive?
Kamala’s rise was totally based on DEI

Willie Brown’s D
 
Kamala’s rise was totally based on DEI

Willie Brown’s D
Exactly! The California Democrat Mafia. She was anointed and pushed through their system and up the chain as determined by the top Dons. Performance and accomplishments were meaningless. Lucky for her.
 
Your attempts at "gotchas" would hurt a lot more if:
1. It was actually something I said/wrote, or....
2. Your claim was actually accurate.

W

-Exactly how smart a candidate/person is Kamala when she was clueless that the people out here across the country wanted some vision of change, and wanted to hear something positive and not convicted felon/fascist/Nazi/Hitler/worst human alive?
OK Stretch, you are confusing me. You call out Ed's erroneous (as usual :) ) $100M condom number, then you post a link that confirms that NO condoms were ever sent to Gaza.

Then you (accurately I might add) describe your dear leader in disloyal terms. Did someone hack into your account? Nice Kamla Derangement Syndrome BTW.
 
OK Stretch, you are confusing me. You call out Ed's erroneous (as usual :) ) $100M condom number, then you post a link that confirms that NO condoms were ever sent to Gaza.

Then you (accurately I might add) describe your dear leader in disloyal terms. Did someone hack into your account? Nice Kamla Derangement Syndrome BTW.
KDS doesn’t stand for Kamala Derangement Syndrome.

Use your imagination.
 
Look at you sharing Russian propaganda. Have you picked out your Russian user name for this site yet? If you add the umlaut above the U in "Uber", you could be going old school Soviet East German. That should count, right?
He cheers on Krasnov, why TF would he not also post Russian propaganda. This twat should probably learn the Russian National Anthem while he’s at it.
 
Well, I have seen comments/stories from folks that watched her through her career coming up in California that have some serious disagreements with your assessment. In particular, Harmeet Dhillon excoriated her abilities and I believe had several run-ins with her. And as I saw some times in Boeing, just because someone held a position did NOT mean that they were qualified for the position or that they performed well in it.

And I will remind you that she absolutely WAS a DEI pick. Recall how Biden was struggling in the first few primaries, and was then heading to South Carolina. So what happened there? Biden promised to pick a black woman as his running mate if James Clyburn would endorse him. See, he did not promise to pick the very best candidate for the job, he promised to pick someone from a particular ethnic group, from a preferred minority class (actually a double minority class), in order to get Clyburn's backing and promotion. That got him the win in SC and then with all the black support from Clyburn and the others that hopped on the train, Biden was able to win.

So I am really curious what she has actually done that makes you think she is so great. Was it her outstanding performance while running for president in 2019? (reminder-she was the first one to drop out, she didn't last long enough to get a single vote, and her campaign was reportedly a real clusterfock) Were you astonished by here sterling performance at controlling the border and finding the root causes of the immigrant invasion? Did you love the work she and Joe did on the economy? Seriously, what were her actual accomplishments in her 4 years in office? Please don't give me what one lefty did in a panel discussion one time- he said her top accomplishment was that she had voted in the Senate to break ties on legislation.

And after 3.5 years in office Kamala gets handed the nomination for the Democrat party, so then what happened? She pissed away pretty much advantage that she had and lost ground in every state except the People's Republic of Washington;
-She picks Walz as a running mate, a guy that is clearly a nut job.
-Her VP pick was from a state that she didn't need help with because a Dem was basically guaranteed to win it already.
-Her team did a piss poor job of vetting Walz.
-She ignored picking a running mate that almost surely would have won the most crucial swing state, Pennsylvania.
-She likely caved to the radical left wing of her party because Shapiro is Jewish.
-The first thing she did after taking over was to disappear for 4-6 weeks, not doing interviews, not taking questions.
-When she did finally answer a few questions, she did so extremely poorly-bumbling and fumbling her way through word salad after word salad after word salad. It really was painful to watch.
-And I mean this completely seriously-how ****ing dumb do you have to be to say that you would do nothing differently than what she and Biden had done the previous 4 years?
-How clueless are you go to an interview (finally!) with Fox News host Brett Bair, a guy that is know as being fair, with her in your face attitude and looking like she had just eaten a 5 pound shit sandwich before sitting down?
-How dumb are you, Kamala, to only go on a few shows and podcasts that pretty much have an audience of your voters already?
-Did Kamala show great political instincts by avoiding going on the Joe Rogan podcast, the guy with the biggest podcast audience in the country? I think not.
- How qualified a candidate did Kamala Harris turn out to be when she had 2-3 times as much money as Trump, had the advantage of owning ~95% of the media covering for her and attacking Trump 24x7, had incumbency in her favor, and still blew it?
-Exactly how smart a candidate/person is Kamala when she was clueless that the people out here across the country wanted some vision of change, and wanted to hear something positive and not convicted felon/fascist/Nazi/Hitler/worst human alive?
Sweet fancy Moses, what a gish-gallop.

I'll keep this simple because I'm not interested in attempting to defend every single thing you have criticism of her for.

I never said she was "so great". My point essentially is that when you are ELECTED it is NOT a DEI matter.

I already acknowledged her diversity was a key component of her selection by Biden and I believe that it was a shrewd pick because of that.

Plenty of technically "qualified" candidates have run poor election campaigns., including her.

The Democrats were in an almost no-win scenario. Biden wasn't going to beat Trump. If they had decided to have a hastily organized primary the party would have been split and trump probs woulda won by an even larger margin. As stated by many of you on this board many times before, the party and mostly Biden blew it with the decision to seek reelection. He should have stuck to his original pledge to be a bridge candidate. Taihtsat
 
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Look at you sharing Russian propaganda. Have you picked out your Russian user name for this site yet? If you add the umlaut above the U in "Uber", you could be going old school Soviet East German. That should count, right?
Sachs brings a challenge to the table; dodging it with accusations or shutting him out doesn’t refute his points, it just ducks them. The ball’s in your court to match his ideas with something as grounded and thought-out, not just lean on smear tactics.

That’s how we get somewhere better, not by circling the wagons.
 
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OK Stretch, you are confusing me. You call out Ed's erroneous (as usual :) ) $100M condom number, then you post a link that confirms that NO condoms were ever sent to Gaza.

Then you (accurately I might add) describe your dear leader in disloyal terms. Did someone hack into your account? Nice Kamla Derangement Syndrome BTW.
Sorry for the confusion on your part, I know it happens often. That link was posted simply to point out that Ed was exaggerating the actual claim in order to make it sound worse for Trump and the administration. I have no interest in trying to defend them for making inaccurate statements, but I will say that it is somewhat opaque on if there was ever ANY condoms sent there. Regardless, if any were sent there, along with being sent to other countries, it obviously would have been a much smaller amount.

Come on, Loyal-you are smarter than that. You know that I was NOT describing DJT in those inaccurate terms, but was simply pulling out some of the many insulting terms used by the liberal left/MSM. But I repeat myself.
 
Yes.

You may have heard of the bully pulpit. The phrase was coined by Teddy Roosevelt. Understandably, many people may have forgotten what it means or that it can even be used. Instead a lot pearls get clutched and panties get bunched. Especially with media that largely opposes the President, and a former President in Joe Biden that couldn’t speak coherently, and had no coherent policy.

Seems like Zelenskyy got the message.
 
Parents know that its largely irrelevant who started the fight in the back seat. They just know to pull over the car so the chaos stops.
 
Your attempts at "gotchas" would hurt a lot more if:
1. It was actually something I said/wrote, or....
2. Your claim was actually accurate.


Wasn't trying to have a gotcha moment...it goes to his lack of utter bull sh!t..."Are you saying he didn't say "they are eating are cats and dogs" . That stuff is plain racist.

I get it...you are ok with it. I am not...but he is our President and in four years we will see if we are better or worse off....

And my claim is accurate. Claimed 100 mill went to Hamas...wrong Gaza btw....money went to the Gaza Province. I know small detail but different countries.

Wait AI generated ...right?
 
I vaguely recall the statement, but not the details. It didn’t matter to me, I knew in 2018 that I wasn’t voting for her
I missed this before, but the statement was made by Jackson during one of the Supreme Court arguments. Same with the 600-800 shots per second firing rate.
 
I missed this before, but the statement was made by Jackson during one of the Supreme Court arguments. Same with the 600-800 shots per second firing rate.
Still wasn't voting for her. :)

I went back and looked at the statements, which led me into the actual study she was basing those statements on. I'm not sure entirely what her background is and how well she analyzes and interprets scientific studies, but I'm willing to assume that I'm better at it than she is...because there are some pretty glaring flaws in the study. Some of those are made worse by her misinterpretation of them.

For starters, she quotes it as a general statement that black person/black doctor is automatically better than other scenarios. The study targeted only infants, not all ages. It also looked only at cases in Florida. It covered a 20+ year period, which brings the number of cases up and maybe diminishes the geographic limits a bit, but the problem is that using a long period like that means that it includes a range of methods, technologies, and improved practices, but ignores those in favor of a bottom line number.

Second major problem - it ignores the simple reality that there are a lot more white doctors than black. A quick Google of that suggests that only about 4% of doctors are black. The proportion might be a bit different in Florida, but the precise number isn't really relevant. It stands to reason that if the proportion of total doctors is that low, the proportion of specialists is at least as low, possibly even lower. The study says that the disparity in outcomes is even bigger for the more complicated cases, which is where you're more likely to see specialists...and presumably the complicated cases have lower survival probabilities regardless of who the doctor is. This means that you're likely seeing a relatively small number of black doctors treating infants who have less complications and higher survival probabilities, while the white doctors are seeing those with lower probabilities. There's no recognition of or control for that.

There's also no real recognition of disparities in resources. Limiting the study to Florida may control for that to some degree, but there's no mention of how many of the "complicated" cases with low probabilities come from rural hospitals without specialized equipment. It basically assumes that every infant is born in the same place with the same support, the only variable is the doctor's race.

In a general sense it's objectively true that Black people have lower life expectancy, and Black infants have higher mortality than white infants. But the best I can say about this study is that it supports the idea that this should be researched more carefully. What it holds out as real conclusions are seriously flawed. Not sure I expect a judge to recognize that, especially when it was touted by the AMA in a brief to the court.

The 600-800 rounds per second thing is clearly incorrect. Looks like that was from oral arguments, and was actually "600 rounds per second or whatever," so is fairly easily explained as someone mis-speaking...although the fact that she did it again 2 minutes later is not encouraging. Suggests that she is also bad at math and has little grasp of reality relating to firearms.
 
Kamala’s rise was totally based on DEI

Willie Brown’s D
Not sure how that is al that different than Trump being handed a 1/2 billion dollar empire, or Pete Hegseth having no government experience or leading the largest agency within the government because the Prez liked him on the weekend show.

Many jobs are about who you know to get a start in them versus how much you now.

Take a peek at the NFL...it could be argued white men re DEI hires, same with basketball.

Kamala just all her assets to get in with the right crowd. She still had to perform in her jobs,=. Didn't she win a 20 billion dollar case against the mortgage biz back in 2014 I believe. Not sure even the attorneys on this website can make that claim.
 
Sorry for the confusion on your part, I know it happens often. That link was posted simply to point out that Ed was exaggerating the actual claim in order to make it sound worse for Trump and the administration. I have no interest in trying to defend them for making inaccurate statements, but I will say that it is somewhat opaque on if there was ever ANY condoms sent there. Regardless, if any were sent there, along with being sent to other countries, it obviously would have been a much smaller amount.

Come on, Loyal-you are smarter than that. You know that I was NOT describing DJT in those inaccurate terms, but was simply pulling out some of the many insulting terms used by the liberal left/MSM. But I repeat myself.
I posted a youtube....just because you listen to one channel doesn't mean Trump doesn't make these claims. And for a dummy, Harris sure whipped Trumps ass in the debate...."they are eating our cats and dogs, they are eating our pets"...."I have a concept of a medical plan"...but hey, what is the hurry he said he would have a great plan in 2017....republican's have been trying to get rid of the Affordable Care act now for 15 years.
 
Sweet fancy Moses, what a gish-gallop.

I'll keep this simple because I'm not interested in attempting to defend every single thing you have criticism of her for.

I never said she was "so great". My point essentially is that when you are ELECTED it is NOT a DEI matter.

I already acknowledged her diversity was a key component of her selection by Biden and I believe that it was a shrewd pick because of that.

Plenty of technically "qualified" candidates have run poor election campaigns., including her.

The Democrats were in an almost no-win scenario. Biden wasn't going to beat Trump. If they had decided to have a hastily organized primary the party would have been split and trump probs woulda won by an even larger margin. As stated by many of you on this board many times before, the party and mostly Biden blew it with the decision to seek reelection. He should have stuck to his original pledge to be a bridge candidate. Taihtsat
Hey...Mike Pence was a DEI hire for VP....happens all the time in politics....

Dems have problems with their field. No white guys without baggage. Shapiro I would have loved to see him as VP. And I was pissed when he was picked, but it would not matter. He could help her in PA, but people in other states it would not have mattered.

Can't have mayor Pete...he is gay. Can't have Shapiro in 2028...he is Jewish, and we know how a certain segment of MAGA feel about Jews. We can't have Gretchen, women and DEI. That leaves Andy Breshears from Kentucky and Mark Kelly from Arizona....

But when Trump runs dems will put up Barrack.....that I would pay money to see.....
 
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Not sure how that is al that different than Trump being handed a 1/2 billion dollar empire, or Pete Hegseth having no government experience or leading the largest agency within the government because the Prez liked him on the weekend show.

Many jobs are about who you know to get a start in them versus how much you now.

Take a peek at the NFL...it could be argued white men re DEI hires, same with basketball.

Kamala just all her assets to get in with the right crowd. She still had to perform in her jobs,=. Didn't she win a 20 billion dollar case against the mortgage biz back in 2014 I believe. Not sure even the attorneys on this website can make that claim.
The difference is Trump's mom sucked dick for Donald's good fortune.
 
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Wasn't trying to have a gotcha moment...it goes to his lack of utter bull sh!t..."Are you saying he didn't say "they are eating are cats and dogs" . That stuff is plain racist.

I get it...you are ok with it. I am not...but he is our President and in four years we will see if we are better or worse off....

And my claim is accurate. Claimed 100 mill went to Hamas...wrong Gaza btw....money went to the Gaza Province. I know small detail but different countries.

Wait AI generated ...right?
This reminds me... when I went and picked up my youngest daughter (7) a couple weeks ago, I found that Trump's cats & dogs statement has been turned into a playground chant. A bunch of little girls were dancing around, jumping rope, etc...all chanting "they're eating the dogs, they're eating the cats, they're eating the pets of the people who live there."

They didn't understand why I thought that was so funny.
 
Still what did Agent Orange other than blood to "earn" his money
What did the Nordstrom kids do? Or the Bartell Drug family? Or Garco Construction? Or Wal Mart? Or Tyson Foods? Or any of thousands of family businesses that go past the founder state?
 
What did the Nordstrom kids do? Or the Bartell Drug family? Or Garco Construction? Or Wal Mart? Or Tyson Foods? Or any of thousands of family businesses that go past the founder state?
Still doesnt mean they are "qualified" which is the conversation.

When it comes to business, Agent Orange is the Paul Wulff of the business world.

think if Paul Wulff fails at WSU, Cal Poly, gets four more jobs and has that same lack of success then is hired by Alabama. Don Gotti filed bk and screwed hard working blue collar workers 6 times.

Another example of DEI and the "theory" people aren't qualified but hired because of a different asset, it was Kennedys last name . Hegseth, Kennedy, Lara Trump all DEI hires.
 
Still doesnt mean they are "qualified" which is the conversation.

When it comes to business, Agent Orange is the Paul Wulff of the business world.

think if Paul Wulff fails at WSU, Cal Poly, gets four more jobs and has that same lack of success then is hired by Alabama. Don Gotti filed bk and screwed hard working blue collar workers 6 times.

Another example of DEI and the "theory" people aren't qualified but hired because of a different asset, it was Kennedys last name . Hegseth, Kennedy, Lara Trump all DEI hires.
I never said Kamala was a DEI hire.

She earned her position in other ways.

Probably while in several different positions.
 
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