Abandoning allies

[Stretch 74]

It's not making the news because it's fake. I just looked up egg prices at my local grocer and they are still at least $5.39 per dozen.....and they never got to $6.55 per dozen here.

Gee, I guess the folks that follow/study such things forgot to check in with you and your local Safeway before publishing NATIONAL AVERAGES. Must have just been an oversight that they will need to correct in the future.

From BLS- peak was $8.17, now trending down, 3/10/25 was at $5.18/dozen.
https://eggprices.org/national-data

From Trading Economics, their chart shows the exact price points that you claim are fake news.
https://tradingeconomics.com/commodity/eggs-us

You REALLY should seek professional help before your TDS gives you a stroke or heart attack.

 

[Coug90]

Gee, I guess the folks that follow/study such things forgot to check in with you and your local Safeway before publishing NATIONAL AVERAGES. Must have just been an oversight that they will need to correct in the future.

From BLS- peak was $8.17, now trending down, 3/10/25 was at $5.18/dozen.
https://eggprices.org/national-data

From Trading Economics, their chart shows the exact price points that you claim are fake news.
https://tradingeconomics.com/commodity/eggs-us

You REALLY should seek professional help before your TDS gives you a stroke or heart attack.

lol. So you’re….disagreeing with Uber and agreeing with Flat. Cuz prices aren’t close to $3.45 a dozen which is what numbnuts posted. They are still over $.50 an egg at F’ing Walmart in Spokane.

Jfc you guys are idiots.

 

[dgibbons]

lol. So you’re….disagreeing with Uber and agreeing with Flat. Cuz prices aren’t close to $3.45 a dozen which is what numbnuts posted. They are still over $.50 an egg at F’ing Walmart in Spokane.

Jfc you guys are idiots.

Idiotic is putting people in one camp or another, as you're trying to do here.

Do you disagree that egg prices are down?

 

[Coug90]

Idiotic is putting people in one camp or another, as you're trying to do here.

Do you disagree that egg prices are down?

Down from what? They are still higher from when Trump took office.

Uber posted bullshit as usual. Stretch agreed with him. Don’t want to be an idiot with them maybe sit this one out?

 

[dgibbons]

Down from what? They are still higher from when Trump took office.

Uber posted bullshit as usual. Stretch agreed with him. Don’t want to be an idiot with them maybe sit this one out?

Thank your for agreeing that egg prices are down. We'll see if the trend continues.

 

[Coug90]

Thank your for agreeing that egg prices are down. We'll see if the trend continues.

Guess we’re adding one more idiot to the list…yes, that’s certainly a trend.

 

[Loyal Coug1]

Idiotic is putting people in one camp or another, as you're trying to do here.

Do you disagree that egg prices are down?

Well I for one agree that egg prices appear to be down nationwide. Good. Easing of the bird flu, reduced demand (mainly due to the high prices) appear to be primary drivers. Now if you Trump lovers care to educate us all on how exactly Trump was in any way responsible for this feel free to do so........

MSN

 

[BSpike76]

Idiotic is putting people in one camp or another, as you're trying to do here.

Do you disagree that egg prices are down?

No, I paid the most I have so far last week, and Costco didn’t have any eggs to sell.

 

[BleedCrimsonandGray]

Well I for one agree that egg prices appear to be down nationwide. Good. Easing of the bird flu, reduced demand (mainly due to the high prices) appear to be primary drivers. Now if you Trump lovers care to educate us all on how exactly Trump was in any way responsible for this feel free to do so........

MSN

yeah well, he's not responsible for egg prices being high either, which seems to be the narrative.

Bird flu is bird flu, the only way for Trump to lower the prices is to subsidize the egg producers which apparently isn't an option that's been implemented, even though every other ag crop in the US has had their hand in the cookie jar for the past 40 years.

 

[Stretch 74]

Well I for one agree that egg prices appear to be down nationwide. Good. Easing of the bird flu, reduced demand (mainly due to the high prices) appear to be primary drivers. Now if you Trump lovers care to educate us all on how exactly Trump was in any way responsible for this feel free to do so........

MSN

I will agree with you that Trump hasn't done anything of consequence to help the egg prices decrease. As you do seem to grasp and reality seems to avoid Coug 90, is that prices nationally have decreased a lot since Trump took office. As of 1/21/25 they were $6.55 and today they are at $3.45 per the commodities tracking site that I linked already. I guess Coug 90 must not be any good at maths, since that is a very consequential price drop. He must have gotten a gender studies degree. Don't know how to explain engineer Flatland's inability to understand these figures.

 

[Observer11]

I will agree with you that Trump hasn't done anything of consequence to help the egg prices decrease. As you do seem to grasp and reality seems to avoid Coug 90, is that prices nationally have decreased a lot since Trump took office. As of 1/21/25 they were $6.55 and today they are at $3.45 per the commodities tracking site that I linked already. I guess Coug 90 must not be any good at maths, since that is a very consequential price drop. He must have gotten a gender studies degree. Don't know how to explain engineer Flatland's inability to understand these figures.

My guess is the commodities price index is for current or future deliveries/contracts whereas the current retail price reflects egg contracts that were made a few weeks ago and are now working their way through the supply chain.

 

[Cougar_Guy]

yeah well, he's not responsible for egg prices being high either, which seems to be the narrative.

Bird flu is bird flu, the only way for Trump to lower the prices is to subsidize the egg producers which apparently isn't an option that's been implemented, even though every other ag crop in the US has had their hand in the cookie jar for the past 40 years.

So by this logic you would agree that Trump was wrong to blame Biden/Harris for high egg prices during the presidential campaign?

The reason that it's the narrative is because Trump blamed the previous administration for this issue and said he would bring prices down on "Day 1." Subsequently he's told the American people to "shut up about egg prices" (or at least he amplified a Charlie Kirk post that said this. In my opinion, if a poster amplifies a message it's pretty much the same as them saying it themself).

https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-promised-bring-down-egg-223030498.html

 

[BleedCrimsonandGray]

So by this logic you would agree that Trump was wrong to blame Biden/Harris for high egg prices during the presidential campaign?

The reason that it's the narrative is because Trump blamed the previous administration for this issue and said he would bring prices down on "Day 1." Subsequently he's told the American people to "shut up about egg prices" (or at least he amplified a Charlie Kirk post that said this. In my opinion, if a poster amplifies a message it's pretty much the same as them saying it themself).

https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-promised-bring-down-egg-223030498.html

Dumb or ignorant, you tell me.

Egg prices affected by HPAI are not the same thing he was addressing when he said he'd lower prices in August.

So you can't see the forest for the trees.

Average Price: Eggs, Grade A, Large (Cost per Dozen) in U.S. City Average

Large white, Grade A chicken eggs, sold in a carton of a dozen. Includes organic, non-organic, cage free, free range, and traditional."

fred.stlouisfed.org

 

[BSpike76]

Dumb or ignorant, you tell me.

Egg prices affected by HPAI are not the same thing he was addressing when he said he'd lower prices in August.

So you can't see the forest for the trees.

Average Price: Eggs, Grade A, Large (Cost per Dozen) in U.S. City Average

Large white, Grade A chicken eggs, sold in a carton of a dozen. Includes organic, non-organic, cage free, free range, and traditional."

fred.stlouisfed.org

Just found an article from last April about egg farms shutting down in Texas due to bird flu. Yep, eggs weren’t high due to bird flu last year at all. What was it then?

https://www.usnews.com/news/health-news/articles/2024-04-03/what-to-know-about-the-latest-bird-flu-outbreak-in-the-us

 

[BleedCrimsonandGray]

Just found an article from last April about egg farms shutting down in Texas due to bird flu. Yep, eggs weren’t high due to bird flu last year at all. What was it then?

https://www.usnews.com/news/health-news/articles/2024-04-03/what-to-know-about-the-latest-bird-flu-outbreak-in-the-us

Keep finding the exception to perpetrate your idiocy.

Just think logically. Put your TDS aside and use your wittle bwain to see the issue objectively.

Or don't, I'll spell it out for you (since you probably didn't click my link, why would you?):

Oh look, prices after April 24 actually fell, then went back up in Sept to almost $4/ dz. Go ahead and search for the bird flu outbreak article from June, July, August, or September to make your little wheel turn the direction you'd like.

Or perhaps the local TX bird flu didn't quite have the same effect on the market because it was localized and contained. Per your own article :

"Still, even with the outbreak in Texas and the nearly 2 million birds that were killed there, Dresner said there are an estimated 310 million egg laying hens in the U.S. and wholesale egg prices are down about 25% from a February peak."

The USDA on the other hand has this information:

Confirmations of Highly Pathogenic Avian Influenza in Commercial and Backyard Flocks | Animal and Plant Health Inspection Service

Since December 24 over 200 commercial flocks have been affected, and around 53MM birds have been culled.

Apples and oranges, but please tell me more. I'd love you to educate me on the industry I work in.

 

[95coug]

This applies to everyone

Not sure why it hasn’t been posted yet based on all the raw emotion expelled here on this issue.

View embedded media

They were $8.50/dozen yesterday.

Inflation didn't drop, it rose less than expected. That's not the same thing.

 

[UberCougars]

Hey grok:

What is the URNER Barry Egg Index sometimes called the UB egg index used for?

Is the UB EGG index a key benchmark for US wholesale egg prices?

Is it widely used by the industry to reflect spot market trends?

Can it be used today to track historical wholesale egg prices?

What is a typical contract size and is there a uniform contract size?

answer:

Let’s tackle your questions about the Urner Barry Egg Index (often abbreviated as UB Egg Index) one by one, focusing on its role in the U.S. egg market.

### What is the Urner Barry Egg Index Used For?
The Urner Barry Egg Index is a price reporting tool that tracks and publishes wholesale egg prices in the U.S., primarily for shell eggs (e.g., large Grade A or AA eggs). It’s used by producers, wholesalers, retailers, and food service companies to:
- Set Pricing Benchmarks: Provides a reliable reference for negotiating contracts and spot market transactions.
- Monitor Market Trends: Reflects supply-demand dynamics, seasonal fluctuations, and external shocks (e.g., avian flu outbreaks).
- Risk Management: Helps businesses hedge against price volatility in the absence of a liquid futures market for eggs.
Urner Barry compiles these prices through daily surveys of market participants—producers, distributors, and buyers—across key regions like the Midwest, Northeast, and Southeast, ensuring the index mirrors real-time wholesale activity.

### Is the UB Egg Index a Key Benchmark for U.S. Wholesale Egg Prices?
Yes, it’s widely regarded as a key benchmark for U.S. wholesale egg prices. Alongside USDA’s Egg Market News Reports, the UB Egg Index is one of the most authoritative sources for shell egg pricing at the wholesale level. It’s particularly valued for its granularity—covering specific egg sizes (e.g., large, extra-large), grades (A, AA), and regions—making it a go-to standard for the industry. For example, when egg prices spiked in 2022 due to bird flu, news outlets and analysts often cited Urner Barry quotes to illustrate wholesale trends.

### Is It Widely Used by the Industry to Reflect Spot Market Trends?
Absolutely. The UB Egg Index is a cornerstone for the egg industry because it captures spot market conditions—… price movements.
- Adjust pricing strategies in real time.
- Settle contracts tied to wholesale rates.
Its credibility stems from Urner Barry’s long history (since 1858) as a commodity price reporter and its focus on direct market feedback, making it a trusted pulse of spot trends.

### Can It Be Used Today to Track Historical Wholesale Egg Prices?
Yes, but with some caveats. Urner Barry maintains historical data on egg prices, which can be accessed through their publications (e.g., Urner Barry’s Reporter) or subscription services like Comtell. This allows users to analyze past wholesale egg prices—say, tracking the 2015 avian flu spike or the 2020 pandemic surge. However:
- Access: Historical data isn’t freely available online; you’d need a subscription or industry contacts to retrieve detailed records.
- Format: It’s not a single "index" like the S&P 500 but a collection of regional quotes (e.g., Midwest Large White Eggs), so tracking requires specifying which category you’re studying.
Today, analysts and researchers use this data to st…

### Summary
- Purpose: Tracks wholesale egg prices for pricing, trends, and risk management.
- Benchmark Status: Yes, a key U.S. wholesale egg price standard.
- Spot Market Use: Widely used by industry for real-time trends.
- Historical Tracking: Yes, with access to Urner Barry’s data archives.
- Contract Size: No uniform size; reflects spot quotes (e.g., per dozen or 30-dozen case), not a traded contract.

If you’re looking to dig into specific UB Index data or compare it to something else, let me know!

 

[BSpike76]

Keep finding the exception to perpetrate your idiocy.

Just think logically. Put your TDS aside and use your wittle bwain to see the issue objectively.

Or don't, I'll spell it out for you (since you probably didn't click my link, why would you?):

Oh look, prices after April 24 actually fell, then went back up in Sept to almost $4/ dz. Go ahead and search for the bird flu outbreak article from June, July, August, or September to make your little wheel turn the direction you'd like.

Or perhaps the local TX bird flu didn't quite have the same effect on the market because it was localized and contained. Per your own article :

"Still, even with the outbreak in Texas and the nearly 2 million birds that were killed there, Dresner said there are an estimated 310 million egg laying hens in the U.S. and wholesale egg prices are down about 25% from a February peak."

The USDA on the other hand has this information:

Confirmations of Highly Pathogenic Avian Influenza in Commercial and Backyard Flocks | Animal and Plant Health Inspection Service

Since December 24 over 200 commercial flocks have been affected, and around 53MM birds have been culled.

Apples and oranges, but please tell me more. I'd love you to educate me on the industry I work in.

Then why were egg prices being bitched about all last year? Was it the spike in Feb. that no one could forget? Since you’re in the know what was the issue in August? You didn’t answer the question. I’ll give it a shot.

https://www.cnn.com/2024/09/25/business/egg-prices-groceries-inflation-bird-flu/index.html

CNN says the reason for a 28.1% jump in August of last year was something called APAI. Yep, APAi in August is completely a different cause than APAI, which caused the spike this year.

 

[UberCougars]

I suspect this might work for Google or other AI’s as well, don’t know.

I know my local Corporate Farm Store has free assembly on all the latest mobile chicken 🐔 coops with Free(tm) Chicks!

I have a hunch we’ve found a new “problem” that needs “fixing”

…. Since eggs lack a U.S. futures market (unlike China’s DCE egg futures, which specify 5 metric tons per contract), the UB Index serves as a pricing guide rather than a tradable asset with a fixed size.

 

[BleedCrimsonandGray]

Then why were egg prices being bitched about all last year? Was it the spike in Feb. that no one could forget? Since you’re in the know what was the issue in August? You didn’t answer the question. I’ll give it a shot.

https://www.cnn.com/2024/09/25/business/egg-prices-groceries-inflation-bird-flu/index.html

CNN says the reason for a 28.1% jump in August of last year was something called APAI. Yep, APAi in August is completely a different cause than APAI, which caused the spike this year.

Well look at you, doing your research!

So in Aug 24, BEFORE your linked articles and the noted spike, egg prices were as high as $3.20 with a low of around $2.75 in the previous 4 months.

I don't assume to know what's going on in Trump's insane brain, but I'm guessing he meant reduce from the $3.20 mark since he made the statement in Aug and prices had been steadily increasing.

If you look at the data, the number of birds being lost to HPAI would not justify the price increase alone. In my opinion it was anxiety over the potential of losing large numbers of birds (which did happen in Dec) and anxiety over the upcoming election - iirc all consumer goods were going up in Aug/ Sept/ Oct.

But again, the lie that is being told is "see, he hasn't lowered egg prices with market manipulations" which there is no manipulation that will replace 54MM birds instantly. I'm honestly out of my depth when it comes to speaking to subsidies, but I would assume that is the only way that Trump personally could affect the price of eggs or any other commodity. And the subtle lie that is being told is "Trump is responsible for eggs being $8/ dz" which is of course patently false.

Look, I'm not happy with anything that is going on right now with what he's doing - tariffs are stupid (the way he's using them), the peace negotiations were smoke and mirrors, there's no discussion on how to keep the migrants here to harvest our food, and the infomercial the other day was just gross. That being said, egg prices aren't on him and I don't expect him to fix that, but that is what the media focuses on because they KNOW that there is no way to fix it other than basically buying American's eggs out of the federal coffers.

 

[UberCougars]

Then why were egg prices being bitched about all last year? Was it the spike in Feb. that no one could forget? Since you’re in the know what was the issue in August? You didn’t answer the question. I’ll give it a shot.

https://www.cnn.com/2024/09/25/business/egg-prices-groceries-inflation-bird-flu/index.html

CNN says the reason for a 28.1% jump in August of last year was something called APAI. Yep, APAi in August is completely a different cause than APAI, which caused the spike this year.

Biden ordered a massive chicken/egg kill.

Why? Reasons. Good reasons? Doesn’t matter. It happened. Lifespan of an egg to laying chicken been covered here several times.

Did it really matter to anyone’s budget? If you eat 28 eggs/ week perhaps for a month or two.

Did Denny’s run out of eggs? McDonald’s? iHop? Didn’t hear about it.

 

[BleedCrimsonandGray]

Biden ordered a massive chicken/egg kill.

Why? Reasons. Good reasons? Doesn’t matter. It happened. Lifespan of an egg to laying chicken been covered here several times.

Did it really matter to anyone’s budget? If you eat 28 eggs/ week perhaps for a month or two.

Did Denny’s run out of eggs? McDonald’s? iHop? Didn’t hear about it.

No he didn't.

How U.S. Taxpayers Bailed Out the Poultry Industry, and Helped Entrench Avian Flu

The U.S. has failed to contain bird flu. The $1.46 billion industry bailout is one reason why.

sentientmedia.org

The USDA made this program, of course he took credit for it because the hand controlling his mouth made him, and its not working by any means except to compensate producers for killing millions of birds.

Which begs the question: since the mfg are being made whole (are they? they get market value for every egg/ bird culled) why do high prices persist?

 

[Flatlandcoug]

Gee, I guess the folks that follow/study such things forgot to check in with you and your local Safeway before publishing NATIONAL AVERAGES. Must have just been an oversight that they will need to correct in the future.

From BLS- peak was $8.17, now trending down, 3/10/25 was at $5.18/dozen.
https://eggprices.org/national-data

From Trading Economics, their chart shows the exact price points that you claim are fake news.
https://tradingeconomics.com/commodity/eggs-us

You REALLY should seek professional help before your TDS gives you a stroke or heart attack.

What's funny is when you click the link you provided, even though is says that the average is $4.15/dozen....the chart on the page says that the cheapest state is South Dakota at $6.79. Pretty awesome source of information.

FWIW, it is inevitable that egg prices are going to drop. Once the bird flocks get replenished and people quit panic buying.....it will drop no matter what your dear leader does.

 

[Cougar_Guy]

Dumb or ignorant, you tell me.

Egg prices affected by HPAI are not the same thing he was addressing when he said he'd lower prices in August.

So you can't see the forest for the trees.

Average Price: Eggs, Grade A, Large (Cost per Dozen) in U.S. City Average

Large white, Grade A chicken eggs, sold in a carton of a dozen. Includes organic, non-organic, cage free, free range, and traditional."

fred.stlouisfed.org

It's rich that you accuse me of being dumb/ignorant, but you can't even read your own data.

Even in a bull market, there's days where the market decreases in value. Your own graph shows a trend of increasing prices throughout all of 2024, prices that had never fully recovered from the outbreak that began in 2020. Prices have been up ever since.

The point isn't that Trump could wave a wand and fix it. The point is that Trump blamed Biden for price increases when Biden was dealing with the same issues, and Trump maliciously and deceitfully asserted that he could "lower prices on day 1" even though that's not really a power president's wield. Especially not when the main cause of price increases is bird flu and loss of flock. And now he's crying woe is me that price increases aren't his fault, when we've literally been dealing with rotating outbreaks since 2020 and it's the same issues the Biden administration was having to navigate.

 

[BleedCrimsonandGray]

It's rich that you accuse me of being dumb/ignorant, but you can't even read your own data.

Even in a bull market, there's days where the market decreases in value. Your own graph shows a trend of increasing prices throughout all of 2024, prices that had never fully recovered from the outbreak that began in 2020. Prices have been up ever since.

The point isn't that Trump could wave a wand and fix it. The point is that Trump blamed Biden for price increases when Biden was dealing with the same issues, and Trump maliciously and deceitfully asserted that he could "lower prices on day 1" even though that's not really a power president's wield. Especially not when the main cause of price increases is bird flu and loss of flock. And now he's crying woe is me that price increases aren't his fault, when we've literally been dealing with rotating outbreaks since 2020 and it's the same issues the Biden administration was having to navigate.

So your contention is that a rampant and constant outbreak of bird flu has kept the market high on eggs, coincidently coinciding with the beginning of Bidens term, and that the inflationary forces that were pervasive during his term had nothing to do with it.

Cool story bro.

And fwiw, I could give two shits about what Trump or any other president says they're going to do. They all lie and off the top of my head I'd estimate that any one of them gets about 5% of the shit done they said they'd do. But hey, if it makes you feel good to scream "I told you so" to the wall, knock yourself out.

 

[Cougar_Guy]

So your contention is that a rampant and constant outbreak of bird flu has kept the market high on eggs, coincidently coinciding with the beginning of Bidens term, and that the inflationary forces that were pervasive during his term had nothing to do with it.

Cool story bro.

And fwiw, I could give two shits about what Trump or any other president says they're going to do. They all lie and off the top of my head I'd estimate that any one of them gets about 5% of the shit done they said they'd do. But hey, if it makes you feel good to scream "I told you so" to the wall, knock yourself out.

https://www.cdc.gov/bird-flu/avian-...lu/avianflu/timeline/avian-timeline-2020s.htm

https://www.abc.net.au/news/science...ic-poultry-vaccination-wild-animals/101972756

Oh, come on, don’t just shrug this off with a lazy “all presidents lie” cop-out. That’s a weak dodge, and you know it. You’re trying to hand-wave away the fact that Trump specifically called out Biden/Harris for egg prices, made a big show of promising to slash them “Day 1,” and now he’s backtracking faster than a politician caught in a scandal. You can’t just toss up your hands and say “eh, they all lie” like that erases the point. We’re not talking about vague campaign fluff here—this was a targeted claim he’s now choking on, and you’re pretending it’s no big deal because, what, you’re too cool to care? That’s not an argument; it’s a tantrum.

Your own data still shows prices climbing through 2024, bird flu or not, and yeah, inflation’s been a factor since 2020—nobody’s denying that. But Trump didn’t care about nuance when he was dunking on Biden for it, did he? He didn’t say, “Oh, it’s a complex mix of HPAI and market forces.” No, he pinned it on them like it was their personal screw-up, then strutted around like he’d fix it overnight. Now he’s amplifying “shut up about eggs” posts because reality hit, and you’re just yawning through it? If you’re fine with him flipping the script, at least own it instead of hiding behind “they all suck anyway.” That’s not clever—it’s just you ducking the fact that you got caught defending a bad take.

 

[BleedCrimsonandGray]

https://www.cdc.gov/bird-flu/avian-...lu/avianflu/timeline/avian-timeline-2020s.htm

https://www.abc.net.au/news/science...ic-poultry-vaccination-wild-animals/101972756

Oh, come on, don’t just shrug this off with a lazy “all presidents lie” cop-out. That’s a weak dodge, and you know it. You’re trying to hand-wave away the fact that Trump specifically called out Biden/Harris for egg prices, made a big show of promising to slash them “Day 1,” and now he’s backtracking faster than a politician caught in a scandal. You can’t just toss up your hands and say “eh, they all lie” like that erases the point. We’re not talking about vague campaign fluff here—this was a targeted claim he’s now choking on, and you’re pretending it’s no big deal because, what, you’re too cool to care? That’s not an argument; it’s a tantrum.

Your own data still shows prices climbing through 2024, bird flu or not, and yeah, inflation’s been a factor since 2020—nobody’s denying that. But Trump didn’t care about nuance when he was dunking on Biden for it, did he? He didn’t say, “Oh, it’s a complex mix of HPAI and market forces.” No, he pinned it on them like it was their personal screw-up, then strutted around like he’d fix it overnight. Now he’s amplifying “shut up about eggs” posts because reality hit, and you’re just yawning through it? If you’re fine with him flipping the script, at least own it instead of hiding behind “they all suck anyway.” That’s not clever—it’s just you ducking the fact that you got caught defending a bad take.

My take has been that he's always been full of shit about getting egg prices down, so I never bought it. I'm familiar with the market and what effects it, and at best I figured prices would ease due to inflation also easing, if anything.

Secondarily, the left screaming at $9/dz eggs and using that as the example of "see, he didn't do what he said he was going to do." THAT'S a bad take and a lie, because like it or not the goalposts have moved since Aug of 24. People are pointing at egg prices as the canary in the coalmine for the economy as well, which is an equally bad take. Its like promising your kids you'll take them to ice cream but the car broke down; meanwhile, your kids are up your ass because you promised them ice cream but now you're a big fat liar because you didn't take them, busted car be damned. Just because the goalposts moving is inconvenient to your argument doesn't mean you can just ignore the fact that they have.

Egg prices are fcked for the immediate future because 54MM birds got killed and, as I think I learned today from the research I did today, the producers are profiteering a bit from the shortage. To what extent I'm not able to say, but again that's just my gut feeling.

 

[Flatlandcoug]

My take has been that he's always been full of shit about getting egg prices down, so I never bought it. I'm familiar with the market and what effects it, and at best I figured prices would ease due to inflation also easing, if anything.

Secondarily, the left screaming at $9/dz eggs and using that as the example of "see, he didn't do what he said he was going to do." THAT'S a bad take and a lie, because like it or not the goalposts have moved since Aug of 24. People are pointing at egg prices as the canary in the coalmine for the economy as well, which is an equally bad take. Its like promising your kids you'll take them to ice cream but the car broke down; meanwhile, your kids are up your ass because you promised them ice cream but now you're a big fat liar because you didn't take them, busted car be damned. Just because the goalposts moving is inconvenient to your argument doesn't mean you can just ignore the fact that they have.

Egg prices are fcked for the immediate future because 54MM birds got killed and, as I think I learned today from the research I did today, the producers are profiteering a bit from the shortage. To what extent I'm not able to say, but again that's just my gut feeling.

You could have stopped halfway through the first sentence and you would have perfectly described Trump on everything.

We know that the cult of personality is so strong and the derangement is so pervasive that you’ll never turn on your dear leader and you’ll defend his every action with that first sentence. The lack of integrity in the MAGA world never ceases to amaze.

 

[BleedCrimsonandGray]

You could have stopped halfway through the first sentence and you would have perfectly described Trump on everything.

We know that the cult of personality is so strong and the derangement is so pervasive that you’ll never turn on your dear leader and you’ll defend his every action with that first sentence. The lack of integrity in the MAGA world never ceases to amaze.

Not that I needed confirmation, but your insistence that the POTUS (regardless of who it is) would be responsible for single handedly fixing the HPAI epidemic is about all I need to know to size up your critical thinking skills.

Sorry you didn't get your ice cream.

 

[Flatlandcoug]

Not that I needed confirmation, but your insistence that the POTUS (regardless of who it is) would be responsible for single handedly fixing the HPAI epidemic is about all I need to know to size up your critical thinking skills.

Sorry you didn't get your ice cream.

That's the funny part that you are too blinded to see.

I never said that Trump should be able to make an immediate difference on egg prices. I pointed out the stupidity of him saying that he could and you f#ckers believing it and then waving it off as "typical politician lies" when it didn't happen.

When a Democrat lies, you lose your sh!t and demand accountability. When Trump lies, you say, "What else do you expect from a politician?"

 

[WillieThePimp]

yeah well, he's not responsible for egg prices being high either, which seems to be the narrative.

Bird flu is bird flu, the only way for Trump to lower the prices is to subsidize the egg producers which apparently isn't an option that's been implemented, even though every other ag crop in the US has had their hand in the cookie jar for the past 40 years.

1) “the narrative”. Literally no one is saying that.

2) Subsidizing egg producers is to keep the egg producers from going under - the price for eggs will not be impacted because that is a function of supply and demand. ECON 101.

Speaking of not seeing the forest through the trees - the point of calling out Trump on his empty vow about egg prices is because his point was that he was going to help Americans who have been hurt by inflation ( caused by an act of god disrupting the global economy and supply chains and also by both Trump and Biden overstimulating the economy - but it’s silly to blame either of them given the uncertainty during the time they made those decisions).

But instead of helping your average American hurt by inflation Trump is hurting them even more by his policies which he is enacting in order to justify, among other things, giving a huge financial windfall to the wealthy. He’s stabbing most of his base in the back. Let’s see if they’re smart enough to notice.

 

[Cougar_Guy]

My take has been that he's always been full of shit about getting egg prices down, so I never bought it. I'm familiar with the market and what effects it, and at best I figured prices would ease due to inflation also easing, if anything.

Secondarily, the left screaming at $9/dz eggs and using that as the example of "see, he didn't do what he said he was going to do." THAT'S a bad take and a lie, because like it or not the goalposts have moved since Aug of 24. People are pointing at egg prices as the canary in the coalmine for the economy as well, which is an equally bad take. Its like promising your kids you'll take them to ice cream but the car broke down; meanwhile, your kids are up your ass because you promised them ice cream but now you're a big fat liar because you didn't take them, busted car be damned. Just because the goalposts moving is inconvenient to your argument doesn't mean you can just ignore the fact that they have.

Egg prices are fcked for the immediate future because 54MM birds got killed and, as I think I learned today from the research I did today, the producers are profiteering a bit from the shortage. To what extent I'm not able to say, but again that's just my gut feeling.

That sad little ice cream analogy doesn't even make sense (unless the parent knew the ice cream store had closed and knew they were never going to deliver the goods anyway; the car breaking down is really just a convenient turn of events) and it's certainly not some sort of profound gotcha. What’s next, a bedtime story about the big bad bird flu breaking the ice cream truck?

Your “goalposts have moved” excuse is laughable. You’re acting like the bird flu outbreak is some shiny new plot twist that conveniently absolves Trump, but the CDC timeline shows 150 million birds have been culled since 2022, not just your cherry-picked 54 million from the latest wave. Biden/Harris were wrestling with the same rotating outbreaks, the same supply shocks, and the same egg price spikes. Trump didn’t inherit a fresh crisis; he stepped into the same mess he’d already weaponized against them. So spare me the “things changed since August” sob story; the goalposts haven’t budged an inch, and your own data obsession should’ve clued you in on that. You’re just pretending history started when it suits your narrative.

Second, you completely whiffed on the Biden/Harris point. You’re so busy scoffing at “the left” that you ignore the obvious: Trump blamed them for high egg prices when they were battling the exact same bird flu chaos you’re now using to defend him. If it’s unfair to hold him accountable now, why was it fair for him to dunk on them then? You can’t have it both ways; either presidents can magically fix egg prices (which Trump promised and you admit he can’t), or they can’t, and he was full of it from the get go. You’re tying yourself in knots to avoid admitting he played the same game you’re now calling foul on.

The irony is that you’re out here defending Trump’s egg price flip-flop, saying you never bought his promise anyway, while acting like it’s everyone else’s fault for taking him at his word. If you didn’t believe he’d deliver, why bend over backwards to excuse him now? That’s not skepticism; it’s selective amnesia. The “profiteering” bit you tacked on is a cute hunch, but it’s not like producers weren’t cashing in under Biden too. It's weird that Trump didn’t mention that when he was grandstanding. Funny how that works. Trump didn’t just promise a treat and shrug when the car broke down; he blamed Biden for the breakdown, swore he’d fix it day one, then told everyone to stop whining when he couldn’t. If you’re fine with that, just say so. Don’t hide behind a busted analogy and pretend the rest of us can’t see through it.

 

[BleedCrimsonandGray]

That sad little ice cream analogy doesn't even make sense (unless the parent knew the ice cream store had closed and knew they were never going to deliver the goods anyway; the car breaking down is really just a convenient turn of events) and it's certainly not some sort of profound gotcha. What’s next, a bedtime story about the big bad bird flu breaking the ice cream truck?

Your “goalposts have moved” excuse is laughable. You’re acting like the bird flu outbreak is some shiny new plot twist that conveniently absolves Trump, but the CDC timeline shows 150 million birds have been culled since 2022, not just your cherry-picked 54 million from the latest wave. Biden/Harris were wrestling with the same rotating outbreaks, the same supply shocks, and the same egg price spikes. Trump didn’t inherit a fresh crisis; he stepped into the same mess he’d already weaponized against them. So spare me the “things changed since August” sob story; the goalposts haven’t budged an inch, and your own data obsession should’ve clued you in on that. You’re just pretending history started when it suits your narrative.

Second, you completely whiffed on the Biden/Harris point. You’re so busy scoffing at “the left” that you ignore the obvious: Trump blamed them for high egg prices when they were battling the exact same bird flu chaos you’re now using to defend him. If it’s unfair to hold him accountable now, why was it fair for him to dunk on them then? You can’t have it both ways; either presidents can magically fix egg prices (which Trump promised and you admit he can’t), or they can’t, and he was full of it from the get go. You’re tying yourself in knots to avoid admitting he played the same game you’re now calling foul on.

The irony is that you’re out here defending Trump’s egg price flip-flop, saying you never bought his promise anyway, while acting like it’s everyone else’s fault for taking him at his word. If you didn’t believe he’d deliver, why bend over backwards to excuse him now? That’s not skepticism; it’s selective amnesia. The “profiteering” bit you tacked on is a cute hunch, but it’s not like producers weren’t cashing in under Biden too. It's weird that Trump didn’t mention that when he was grandstanding. Funny how that works. Trump didn’t just promise a treat and shrug when the car broke down; he blamed Biden for the breakdown, swore he’d fix it day one, then told everyone to stop whining when he couldn’t. If you’re fine with that, just say so. Don’t hide behind a busted analogy and pretend the rest of us can’t see through it.

Why?

Because you and the other TDS affected ilk can't tell the difference between $3/ dz egg prices and $9/ egg prices. And either ignoring or ignorant of the fact that he made that promise when the eggs were $3/ dz. You talk about my "gotcha" when a "gotcha" is all this topic is even about - Trump not delivering on lowering egg prices from $9/dz.

You shit on your own point with the culled bird number - 54MM in 3 months vs 100MM over what... 21? Totally bro, same same. You're ability to spout rhetoric is truly unmatched, your intellect dizzying. EXACT SAME BIRD FLU CRISIS - TOTALLY.

And for the last fcking time - idgaf what trump said. Its intellectually dishonest to act like anyone - the USDA, Trump, Biden, or any single person could move egg prices right now. There's an international crisis he's mishandled, trade wars being levied, a fcking infomercial on the WH lawn - BUT WON'T SOMEONE PLEASE TALK ABOUT TRUMPS THROWAWY COMMENT IN AUGUST ABOUT LOWERING $3/DZ EGG PRICES NOW THAT THEY'RE $9/DZ? Really nailing the important stuff here.

But here, so your fragile ego won't make you drive off of a cliff, I'll concede your point; DT has NOT lowered egg prices as promised.
Happy?

 

[WillieThePimp]

Why?

Because you and the other TDS affected ilk can't tell the difference between $3/ dz egg prices and $9/ egg prices. And either ignoring or ignorant of the fact that he made that promise when the eggs were $3/ dz. You talk about my "gotcha" when a "gotcha" is all this topic is even about - Trump not delivering on lowering egg prices from $9/dz.

You shit on your own point with the culled bird number - 54MM in 3 months vs 100MM over what... 21? Totally bro, same same. You're ability to spout rhetoric is truly unmatched, your intellect dizzying. EXACT SAME BIRD FLU CRISIS - TOTALLY.

And for the last fcking time - idgaf what trump said. Its intellectually dishonest to act like anyone - the USDA, Trump, Biden, or any single person could move egg prices right now. There's an international crisis he's mishandled, trade wars being levied, a fcking infomercial on the WH lawn - BUT WON'T SOMEONE PLEASE TALK ABOUT TRUMPS THROWAWY COMMENT IN AUGUST ABOUT LOWERING $3/DZ EGG PRICES NOW THAT THEY'RE $9/DZ? Really nailing the important stuff here.

But here, so your fragile ego won't make you drive off of a cliff, I'll concede your point; DT has NOT lowered egg prices as promised.
Happy?

Wow. What was that? You just made Mik’s greatest hits seem completely sane by comparison.

I see no irony whatsoever in you referring to anyone as suffering from some form of “derangement syndrome”.