Eastern. And Cooper Kupp
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Guys...we are 2-0! Let's be happy and enjoy life. It could be worse...it HAS been worse.
Yeah, I get he graduated in 2012. Do you believe Leach while doing radio was out recruiting, or do you think he built the 2012 class, better put, removed parts and added others to complete the 2012 class after he was hired in 2011? Are you saying Leach couldn't have seen and offered Kupp instead of Brett Bartolone? Why pretend like Leach had years to recruit any of these guys.
I am totally OK with a coach missing out on a kid, it happens all the time in recruiting.
Wait, what? I missed a CPW article? Dang it!
I had posted an article about the 10 worst coaching tenures in college football history and Wulff didn't make their cut. I said something along the lines of "He may have sucked....but he was only 11th worst".
No shit! I started this thread with the thought that eastern isn’t the same eastern we saw two years ago because they don’t have this beast tearing up our secondary and we are going to be 3-0 with 3 convincing wins. How’d we get back to 9-40?!
I'm not saying anything other than if you want to point fingers at anyone for "missing" on Kupp, Wulff is who you should point the finger at. I have no idea what the rest of your gibberish is supposed to mean.
Kupp signed in 2012, and was 6'1", 180 lbs coming out of high school. He's now listed at 6'1", 205. He was All-state as a defensive back, honorable mention as a receiver his senior year, but his team (Davis) didn't even make the playoffs. Not really that hard to believe he didn't get that much attention, being from a mediocre team and without either blazing speed, height, or a big body. He didn't even play at EWU his first year, he redshirted in 2012. Not sure when he gained the 25 pounds, but in 2013 he started proving that prototypical speed and size don't mean everything. Tough to really fault Wulff or Leach for missing on his (especially Leach, with a compressed timeline) - everyone else missed too.
It's kinda hard to project an improved 40 time while gaining 20 pounds. In 2017....he was running a 4.6 and had an outstanding shuttle time. I think he would of made a really good safety in college.
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I understand the bitterness over the Wulff era. 9-40 is hard to endure. When people come out and either flat out lie about the process, or are so far off the mark, it leaves a bad taste.
I'm happy to have that chapter in our collective past, but I'll admit to reacting whenever someone suggests the Wulff era wasnt that bad.
I'm happy to have that chapter in our collective past, but I'll admit to reacting whenever someone suggests the Wulff era wasnt that bad.
Again, didn’t Leach replace half the committed kids and didn’t he sign Brett Bartolone. He had time to evaluate the kid. He missed as Wulff did . Or think he did as he could have been still considering offering him .
Now Ed, if you aren't willing to say that Wulff is the worst coach in the history of all sports......you're not a true Coug. And that's ok. The thing that I'll say, that I said the other day, is that I truly appreciate Leach getting us to the point where we are nitpicking our team's play after a 31-0 victory.......with or without Cooper Kupp.
I am proud to say that I do have Cooper Kupp on my fantasy football team. Hope that sumb!tch treats the NFL like the 2016 Cougs all season long.
Even six years after the disaster ended you’re making excuses for the guy. You’d be torching Doba.
Even 6 years after the disaster, you still bring him up on the daily, including in this thread.
And you,still use verbiage such as "magic eye for talent" and "at a level never seen before"
As stated before, you need new material.
“Leach will never get it done here.”
Oh burn. Good thing I was wrong...but at least I didn't waver back and
forth like many on here...especially the one who posts memes under his posts.
You still need new material.
I don't know. Guys get missed every year. Is it really that shocking?
Everyone else missed on him too.
Same with Kellen Moore.
Same with Iupoti.
Same with Baker Mayfield.
Same with Luke Falk.
Wulff had a class of almost entirely not FBS players on board.
I mean, at least Leach room Marks, Lewis, Bartolone & Alex Jackson in that class instead of Kupp.
Wulff had a couple Texas kids that ended up at like Sam Houston St.
Why the knock on Bartolone? I mean, he was no Kupp, but he played as a true frosh and was pretty good. Could have had a real solid career if he didn't get derailed by injuries.
Yeah cause Doba didn't recruit well. Any other suggestion after we have history that was the downfall of the program. He took a three 10 win team and in his last season gave up 47 plus points four times. The program was in a tailspin and they hired a guy who had to rely on a- b+ players as he didn't have the cache to go head to head with Mike Riley, Tedford, or whoever was at ASU at the time.
Mayfield has said he wasn’t interested in the programs that offered him out of high schoo. With us his interest was Leach and probably only meeting Leach. I know he was who I wanted at the time like that means anything but just sayin’.
Hell who wanted Mayfield? Hell how did that happen? I guess waking up sore and alone after an all night drunk, Falk the statue nail biting Qb who had two mediocre sisters who got some shekels from delirious fans who thought they had a first round draft pick on their hands.
I do typically post, because some of the myopic viewpoints expressed should be refuted. This thread is a great example of how biased some of our friends on the board are. WSU didn't offer a scholarship to Cooper Kupp, who graduated in 2012 (after Wulff was fired) but it's Wulff's fault that he wasn't at WSU even though Leach, our actual coach at the time, (and any other FBS coach) didn't offer the kid a scholarship. As mentioned above, there was a recent article about the 10 worst tenures in college football history, and Wulff didn't even get an honorable mention, yet if you ask our Wulff haters, he's the worst coach in the history of all sports.
At this point, we all know that everyone who hates Wulff will always hate him and we know the people that think that he was just an overmatched guy given a difficult job who buried himself trying to follow orders are always going to think that he's attacked more harshly than he should be. And that's ok. BTW, as I've always said, Wulff needed to be fired in 2011 because he did not get the job done at WSU.......so just because I don't say that he's the worst coach eva' doesn't mean that I'm not glad that he's gone. It's a nuance that's lost on some of our friends so I have to repeat it every time because they seem to forget that if I don't.
Again, this thread highlights the level of blind hatred that some of our fans harbor for Wulff. It borders on moronic to suggest that Wulff failed as a head coach for not recruiting Kupp.....but that doesn't keep people here from suggesting it. That says a lot about their blind hatred of Wulff, and perhaps their understanding of the sport.
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Nice attempt to assert moral and intellectual superiority. We all know you’re the moron you refer to.
Last week you were arguing Comfort was a disappointment. Talk about morons.
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Doba was a fine recruiter.
His assistants didn't do jack sh*t but Bill deserved his coffee over the years. Rosie couldn't sell his way out of a paper bag.
FWIW, I said that Taylor Comfort's career at WSU prior to this season was a disappointment. 1 career tackle, even for a walk-on, was nothing to be excited about and there is no need for me to apologize for saying that. I'm glad that he's playing well so far this year and he's definitely changed his legacy at WSU in a positive way.
