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Great… So glad this is in our rear view mirror

but you want proof his was because why?
Because you're adamant about it, and there's nothing even close to suggesting that "rule" was used for him, other than your assertions... against the stack of articles that say he's part of the '11 class- rather than say, Joe Dahl.
 
Because you're adamant about it, and there's nothing even close to suggesting that "rule" was used for him, other than your assertions... against the stack of articles that say he's part of the '11 class- rather than say, Joe Dahl.
That is always how they are listed. There will never be an article that shows his scholie was given for the previous year. It is a mid year transfer rule. The class of 2011...when did they sign their letters?
 
OMG! Trying to talk him away from Montana would of been immature. DON'T YOU PEOPLE GET IT? It's funny how the previous staff would claim immaturity when it came to losing a recruit to someone like Cal and then boast how they won a recruit that might of gone to San Diego State. They were hilarious.
Actually I don't think they claimed immaturity, I think they used the word more in line with less than honorable.
 
At the same time, calendar wise, as this year's JUCO recruits- the ones in the 2015 class.

You can just admit there's nothing to verify your statement- you won't get kicked off the board or anything.
 
That is always how they are listed. There will never be an article that shows his scholie was given for the previous year. It is a mid year transfer rule. The class of 2011...when did they sign their letters?
Except there are plenty of those. You can find guys who are acknowledged as counting against the previous class in their commitment articles. It's not noted in ANY of Meighen's articles.
 
Why would you not? It allows you more spots for the next class, which also allows room for Dahl.

Um, well, because the empty slots from the 2010 class could have been filled by other guys.
 
God I hope we keep this thread going so every person that comes in can read how stupid Ed is. It's just one long train of delusion after delusion only to be completely proven wrong...again...and again....and again....and again....and again... and again.
 
It's interesting how that article specifically mentions Cooper's ability to count back... but no one else's- including Meighen. I was just told an article would NEVER do that.
I haven't read this entire thread, so forgive me if this has been brought up. If a player enrolls in January, the school has the option to count him as part of the previous class or incoming class. Of course, the school can only count the player to the previous class if there was still room in the previous class up to 25 enrolled scholarship players.

Interestingly enough, while Meighan was on the team his senior year of 2012, he never played in a game.
 
I haven't read this entire thread, so forgive me if this has been brought up. If a player enrolls in January, the school has the option to count him as part of the previous class or incoming class. Of course, the school can only count the player to the previous class if there was still room in the previous class up to 25 enrolled scholarship players.

Interestingly enough, while Meighan was on the team his senior year of 2012, he never played in a game.
Since neither Wulff (in '11) or Leach (in '12) oversigned, I don't see why they would have shifted Meighen since there wasn't a need. I mean, it would have made sense, but since they didn't actually fill the potential spot, it's a "lipstick on a pig" deal anyways.

It's also interesting that after his sole start, he fell to third on the depth chart, never to be seen again. And he was one of the six.
 
Since neither Wulff (in '11) or Leach (in '12) oversigned, I don't see why they would have shifted Meighen since there wasn't a need. I mean, it would have made sense, but since they didn't actually fill the potential spot, it's a "lipstick on a pig" deal anyways.

It's also interesting that after his sole start, he fell to third on the depth chart, never to be seen again. And he was one of the six.
Wait a second, I thought the whole discussion was about Wulff choosing Meighan over dahl. Now it isn't?
 
God I hope we keep this thread going so every person that comes in can read how stupid Ed is. It's just one long train of delusion after delusion only to be completely proven wrong...again...and again....and again....and again....and again... and again.
Ouch. Actually, the discussion is about Meighan taking Dahl's spot. Wuloffui just didn't understand why that wasn't the case.
 
Wait a second, I thought the whole discussion was about Wulff choosing Meighan over dahl. Now it isn't?
How is it not? Because if he didn't and did what you "suggest" (not what actually happened) then rather than filling Dahl's spot with Meighen, he filled it with... nothing.

I don't think either "choosing a bad player over a good one" or "choosing nothing over a good player" is a great option, personally.
 
I haven't read this entire thread, so forgive me if this has been brought up. If a player enrolls in January, the school has the option to count him as part of the previous class or incoming class. Of course, the school can only count the player to the previous class if there was still room in the previous class up to 25 enrolled scholarship players.

Interestingly enough, while Meighan was on the team his senior year of 2012, he never played in a game.
Probably no more interesting than why Matt Meyers is at Eastern, or Nia Sale never suiting up, or why Sean Krespe left school. Crap happens.
 
How is it not? Because if he didn't and did what you "suggest" (not what actually happened) then rather than filling Dahl's spot with Meighen, he filled it with... nothing.

I don't think either "choosing a bad player over a good one" or "choosing nothing over a good player" is a great option, personally.
Ah, so any coach that has open spots suck. Is that what you are saying?
 
Ouch. Actually, the discussion is about Meighan taking Dahl's spot. Wuloffui just didn't understand why that wasn't the case.
Either it was, or, as I just explained, the potential option of having "Dahl" or "nothing", Wulff chose "nothing", which also would have been a bad choice.
 
Since neither Wulff (in '11) or Leach (in '12) oversigned, I don't see why they would have shifted Meighen since there wasn't a need. I mean, it would have made sense, but since they didn't actually fill the potential spot, it's a "lipstick on a pig" deal anyways.

It's also interesting that after his sole start, he fell to third on the depth chart, never to be seen again. And he was one of the six.

Meighan enrolled in January of 2011 automatically making him part of the 2011 class. He was part of the 2011 class of 25.
Thanks, that is correct, but when talking about a scholie they can use it against 2010's class.
 
Back in 2010, in the third of four years of Paul Wulff’s tenure, Dahl was playing for Bill Diedrick, former WSU and Washington assistant, at University High — and dying to get an offer from the Cougars.

Montana’s came first, and not until about mid-October of that year did WSU follow.

“There was a period when they (the Cougars) stopped talking to me,” Dahl says. “That was when Montana started talking to me. I committed there and just didn’t want to back out on my verbal.”

You can read the whole article here.

So basically Wulff waited until October to offer him, and by that time he stuck with Montana. Even though he really wanted to come to WSU. So Wulff gets ZERO credit for Dahl. He was lazy on the offer. He had stopped talking to Dahl, and then 3 months before signing day offered him of which he stuck by Montana.

So Wulff didn't do a damn thing to try and secure Dahl. The reason Dahl showed up was because he wanted to play for WSU. So where things went wrong initially was with Wulff not even talking to the kid.
You do get that is how a lot of recruiting is done. Dimry comes to mind. Did they even offer Dimry in October? Doba because evaluation problems thought it was better he start offering in the senior year and not early. I believe that was prior to 2007.
 
So, we ARE being willfully naive.

Yes, I'm sure he went all through fall camp with a chronic injury, then right before games, it was just too bad. Not sniffing out how the awful coach would waste his senior year, that couldn't ever be it.
So you say he quit on his teammates. Got it.
 
You do get that is how a lot of recruiting is done. Dimry comes to mind. Did they even offer Dimry in October? Doba because evaluation problems thought it was better he start offering in the senior year and not early. I believe that was prior to 2007.
Not keeping contact with potential recruits isn't "how recruiting is done", except during the Wulff years. Results bear that out.
 
What does this mean? "Not sniffing out how the awful coach would waste his senior year, that couldn't ever be it." Are you saying he was chronically injured and he couldn't continue, or he saw how horrible the coach was and he decided not to play?
 
So Wulffui...when you write the following you were just kidding?
Because he was an OL Wulff chose over Dahl.
606 wulffui, Tuesday at 3:23 PM

We would have saved two pages of discussion....
You've literally shown NOTHING that describes him actually counting towards 2010, in the face of articles both explaining his place in the 2011 class, and other signees who WOULD be counted towards the 2010 class. In fact, with the way events played out, the only possible alternative you suggest (that Wulff chose "nothing" over an Outland candidate who wanted to play at his dream school) is even more damming.

In any event, due to lack of need for opening scholarships, I see no reason Meighen wouldn't have been part of the 2011 signing class, and you've shown nothing to the contrary. I've asked.
 
What does this mean? "Not sniffing out how the awful coach would waste his senior year, that couldn't ever be it." Are you saying he was chronically injured and he couldn't continue, or he saw how horrible the coach was and he decided not to play?
Why did he go all through fall camp?
 
Probably no more interesting than why Matt Meyers is at Eastern, or Nia Sale never suiting up, or why Sean Krespe left school. Crap happens.
Not trying to fight you ED. Not really sure why you turn every single comment into an argument with a smart ass answer. On the surface, it would not be interesting. But, given how thin the line was, it is interesting that an in-shape healthy senior lineman didn't play one snap.

Meyers couldn't pass the WSU medical to be cleared to play. So, that is much different. Sale came in fat and out of shape. So, that is different as well. Regarding Krepsz, I agree. Crap happens.
 
Not trying to fight you ED. Not really sure why you turn every single comment into an argument with a smart ass answer. On the surface, it would not be interesting. But, given how thin the line was, it is interesting that an in-shape healthy senior lineman didn't play one snap.

Meyers couldn't pass the WSU medical to be cleared to play. So, that is much different. Sale came in fat and out of shape. So, that is different as well. Regarding Krepsz, I agree. Crap happens.
Not trying to fight with you either. But why is it different? Why did Meyers get cleared at Eastern? Why did he not use his freshman year to redshirt?

It doesn't matter why they didn't work out, they didn't. Meighan was a freebee, he didn't hurt the numbers, he could come in and add depth. He didn't take another recruits spot.

He came in as a back up, played a couple of games. Was he good? Nope. Was he adequate for a quarter or a half, sure. That is exactly what he did.

He didn't play because there were better players there. Dahl was better. Ecklund turned out to be better. Bosch as well.
 
Why did he go all through fall camp?
You tell me, it was your remarks about a coach? Here is what I would think one would say: Rowlands went all the way through fall camp and decided his shoulder could not take the pounding any longer and he decided to leave for health reasons.
 
You've literally shown NOTHING that describes him actually counting towards 2010, in the face of articles both explaining his place in the 2011 class, and other signees who WOULD be counted towards the 2010 class. In fact, with the way events played out, the only possible alternative you suggest (that Wulff chose "nothing" over an Outland candidate who wanted to play at his dream school) is even more damming.

In any event, due to lack of need for opening scholarships, I see no reason Meighen wouldn't have been part of the 2011 signing class, and you've shown nothing to the contrary. I've asked.
Good grief...agree or disagree. If WSU was tight on scholies his scholie could be retroactive to allow WSU to sign dahl. Do you agree with that or not? The premise whether I find an article or not is Dahl's scholie was not taken by Meighan, and you wrote on Tuesday that it was.
 
Not keeping contact with potential recruits isn't "how recruiting is done", except during the Wulff years. Results bear that out.
I am sorry that is exactly how recruiting is done. Not all high school players get offered early. Dahl was offered by one Pac 10 team. One. And he is considered and he is on a watch list for best lineman. No Wyoming, no CSU, no CU. Just WSU. "Tweeners' or projects, or whatever you want to call a guy 6 5 240 get calls late. And he readily admits he should have been more patient.
 
That one did. A mountain of evidence verifies that.
I know what you think of Wulff. But you say because he left one open he sucks. That means that is ONE benchmark for measuring a coach who sucks. Is that correct?
 
Good grief...agree or disagree. If WSU was tight on scholies his scholie could be retroactive to allow WSU to sign dahl. Do you agree with that or not? The premise whether I find an article or not is Dahl's scholie was not taken by Meighan, and you wrote on Tuesday that it was.
Since they weren't tight, it's a non-issue. He's a 2011 signee. Evidently, you're going with the assertion that Wulff chose "nothing" as his option. I'd imagine, with that as his alternative, he just happily included Meighen as a part of the 2011 signing class. You've shown zero to the contrary.
 
I am sorry that is exactly how recruiting is done. Not all high school players get offered early. Dahl was offered by one Pac 10 team. One. And he is considered and he is on a watch list for best lineman. No Wyoming, no CSU, no CU. Just WSU. "Tweeners' or projects, or whatever you want to call a guy 6 5 240 get calls late. And he readily admits he should have been more patient.
I doubt any good recruiter would say "we stop contact with guys who we might want".

Also, based on measureables, 6'5, 240 isn't off Wulff's radar for being too small- those measurements are close to what he usually brought in on the line.
 
Since they weren't tight, it's a non-issue. He's a 2011 signee. Evidently, you're going with the assertion that Wulff chose "nothing" as his option. I'd imagine, with that as his alternative, he just happily included Meighen as a part of the 2011 signing class. You've shown zero to the contrary.
Wulffui it is really simple, did Meighan take Dahl's spot like you insisted?
 
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