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JDL is letting his feelings be known....

Yeah - just one more reason of too many to count that I’ll be cancelling my WaPo subscription. Already ditched the WSJ due to their Mickey Mouse opinion pages.
The fact you have a WaPo sub only confirms everything we already know about you. Leftist hack that foams at the mouth any time there is dissent from the mob mentality. Leftism is far worse than any cult ever known to exist. Yes, even worse than the Manson clan. Dr Robert Malone's claim of Mass Psychosis being caused by leftist and legacy media has taken hold. Just look at what's happening now. MORE FEAR MONGERING of Covid..... AGAIN. You leftist are the real virus plaguing this country.
 
Well, I didn't bring a "left" or "right" political angle into this. Can you have a discussion that doesn't involve That about something you are ignorant (not stupid) ignorant on? You lack the appropriate scientific/biological knowledge to be saying the things you are saying with any credibility.

Do you think sexuality is binary...strictly make and female? And if so, why do you believe that?
Sexuality is not the same as gender. But good one on the turn of a phrase.

And before that gives an opening to a Flat rant on Christian intolerance, I happen to believe consenting adults are given the free will to engage in whatever sexual activity they desire.
 
Sexuality is not the same as gender. But good one on the turn of a phrase.

And before that gives an opening to a Flat rant on Christian intolerance, I happen to believe consenting adults are given the free will to engage in whatever sexual activity they desire.
But you forgot the corollary that the libs mandate that you stand by and enthusiastically cheer for whatever activities they put on parade.
 
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But you forgot the corollary that the libs mandate that you stand by and enthusiastically cheer for whatever activities they put on parade.
I've been granted the free will to enthusiastically cheer for whatever activities I determine is worthy of my time and energy.

That may or may not include parades. But it certainly isn't because a mob decides a given activity is more worthy than any other of my choice.
 
I've been granted the free will to enthusiastically cheer for whatever activities I determine is worthy of my time and energy.

That may or may not include parades. But it certainly isn't because a mob decides a given activity is more worthy than any other of my choice.
That just means you're a racist, bigoted, homo/trans/islamic/phob that only seeks to further the patriarch of white Christianity. HOW DARE YOU! 🤣
 
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When does Arizona Spring Ball start? Is JDL the clear starter?
I was looking at the calendar and was thinking I may want to go to Tuscon in Nov to watch this game. As for Pullman, I checked to see what games were available in terms of looking at a place to stay and there is NOTHING. Good indication that there seems to be a lot of positive energy and vibes about the upcoming season.
 
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I had the whole tolerance thing pretty well nailed.

Then the goalposts moved.
Not sure "libs" have a iron fist grip on tolerance. Colin Kap is a great example of who the leader of the GOP went after. Taking a knee is what I thought every person who gave their life in the name of freedom. Book bans, writing laws that deny the ability to accurately teach our history, and writing laws about critical race theory that isn't even taught in schools in many districts.

So the "tolerance thing" is a fantasy on both sides of the aisle.
 
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Well, I didn't bring a "left" or "right" political angle into this. Can you have a discussion that doesn't involve That about something you are ignorant (not stupid) ignorant on? You lack the appropriate scientific/biological knowledge to be saying the things you are saying with any credibility.

Do you think sexuality is binary...strictly make and female? And if so, why do you believe that?

I'm confused....so does this mean you think Gunner Cruz will beat out JDL in spring ball?
 
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The fact you have a WaPo sub only confirms everything we already know about you. Leftist hack that foams at the mouth any time there is dissent from the mob mentality. Leftism is far worse than any cult ever known to exist. Yes, even worse than the Manson clan. Dr Robert Malone's claim of Mass Psychosis being caused by leftist and legacy media has taken hold. Just look at what's happening now. MORE FEAR MONGERING of Covid..... AGAIN. You leftist are the real virus plaguing this country.
I also had a subscription to the WSJ - so that makes me a right wing lunatic racist Nazi autocrat-worshipping nutter just like you.
 
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I was looking at the calendar and was thinking I may want to go to Tuscon in Nov to watch this game. As for Pullman, I checked to see what games were available in terms of looking at a place to stay and there is NOTHING. Good indication that there seems to be a lot of positive energy and vibes about the upcoming season.
It will be interesting to see what the crowds are like this year assuming all the restrictions are off. Really good home schedule.
 
Yes of course it's male and female, anything else is psychological issues/disorders.

Why do I believe that? Because you're either born with a cat or a rooster. What happens after birth with influences and pressures disfigures some people into believing something that's not true and not natural. I think a lot of transgender think that the conversion will fix all of their problems and it doesn't because there is underlying issues that need solved, which is the reason for the high suicide rate.

What makes your response stupid is that it is well documented that animals often exhibit homosexual and transgender behaviors. Doctors have no real explanations for why people feel the way that they do and your opinions on the issues are as meaningful (and accurate) as armchair quarterbacking anything else that people love to go on about.

I still love that you are unable to realize that being a ginormous d!ck about LGBT issues is a leading driver in suicide rates. If it really is a psychological issues/disorder and since your method for addressing these issues is to call trans people freaks and future pedophiles, I'm assuming that you would feel comfortable telling Tyler Hilinski's mom that he was a pussy who just needed to toughen up and get some help. You know, bullying someone who is struggling with something that you don't personally understand is obviously the best way to cure someone.

When it comes to trans issues, I agree with you that there shouldn't be any kind of permanent treatment or procedures until a child has reached 18 years old....or at least 16 years old. I do think that the left has a poor approach when it comes to letting people make life changing decisions at an age when they wouldn't be allowed to make most other decisions. I don't agree with letting trans male athletes participate against girls in sports. Outside of that, I believe that we should spend less time assaulting people's lifestyles and choices and more time focusing on our own. The idiotic notions that trans people are more likely to be pedophiles and that men will dress as women just to sneak into bathrooms to rape little girls are moronic hate speech driven by people with no empathy and deluded by the kool-aid that they are being asked to drink. When I look at the local sex offender registry.....there aren't any trans people on there but there sure are a lot of generic a$$ white dudes.

Every time you post about these issues, it makes you look worse as a human being.
 
Without question.
And what do you base that on? XY, XX chromosomes? Are there exceptions? How do you classify an XY female? Or a XXX male (Kleinfelter syndrome)? Can you come up with a SINGLE genetic marker that absolutely 100% of the time objectively determines male/female?
 
Sexuality is not the same as gender. But good one on the turn of a phrase.

And before that gives an opening to a Flat rant on Christian intolerance, I happen to believe consenting adults are given the free will to engage in whatever sexual activity they desire.
Correct, it isn't always, but it also can be and that isn't even counting identity. These are complicated terms that require some nuance to discuss.
 
Yes of course it's male and female, anything else is psychological issues/disorders.

Why do I believe that? Because you're either born with a cat or a rooster. What happens after birth with influences and pressures disfigures some people into believing something that's not true and not natural. I think a lot of transgender think that the conversion will fix all of their problems and it doesn't because there is underlying issues that need solved, which is the reason for the high suicide rate.
"Everything" else isn't psychological issues/disorders. There are genetic and hormonal elements involved often getting expressed while in utero.

Could you be lacking relevant information on this topic or are you just absolutely certain you are correct, no "ifs, ands, or buts"?
 
And what do you base that on? XY, XX chromosomes? Are there exceptions? How do you classify an XY female? Or a XXX male (Kleinfelter syndrome)? Can you come up with a SINGLE genetic marker that absolutely 100% of the time objectively determines male/female?
Just like anything, there are extremely rare outliers. I guess implementing policies strictly for the fractional % of the population is the only right thing to do? Even if it significantly infringes upon the rights and civil liberties of the vast majority? According to leftists, not only should you let it happen, you should let educators indoctrinate your children on the subject matter too.
 
And what do you base that on? XY, XX chromosomes? Are there exceptions? How do you classify an XY female? Or a XXX male (Kleinfelter syndrome)? Can you come up with a SINGLE genetic marker that absolutely 100% of the time objectively determines male/female?
Personally, I base gender on biological sex. It doesn't bother me whatsoever how someone else chooses to identify, but I think it's ridiculous that public schools are investing so much time adjusting policy and curriculum to situations that affect such a fractionally small segment of society.

It's estimated that that roughly 4.5% of all Americans identify as LQBTQ, and 1 in 4 LGBTQ youth use non-binary pronouns. Are we justified in continuing efforts to open doors that make society more inclusive for everyone, including LGBTQ? Of course we should, but the long term solution to easing the social divide that we're all suffering with has to do with the messaging in our schools and workplaces.

We need to shift from specific campaigns of inclusivity (BLM, LGBTQ, etc.) to a more simple and standardized code of behavioral ethics and standards of respect. It doesn't matter whether a person is gay, straight, Male, Female, black, white, Christian, Muslim or Atheist. A person's only societal obligation is that they contribute productively to society, adhere to our laws, and pay their taxes; ie: contribute to the tribe. We're all going to have have opinions on how people should live, but kids are incredibly adaptable. Teach them to respect everyone and dedicate messaging that helps to overcome ALL stereotypes by showing that it's just as damaging to call someone a homophobic or racial slur as it is to label them a white supremacist because of their political leanings, call them "privileged" because of their skin color, or mock them for toxic masculinity.

Or we can continue to kick the can down the road and talk about how hate and bias is justified against people you disagree with.
 
Just like anything, there are extremely rare outliers. I guess implementing policies strictly for the fractional % of the population is the only right thing to do? Even if it significantly infringes upon the rights and civil liberties of the vast majority? According to leftists, not only should you let it happen, you should let educators indoctrinate your children on the subject matter too.
CIS....a couple questions and a comment. There was a set of twins, one boy and the other they weren't sure at birth. So the parents decided one boy one girl. The girl was this fantastic athlete, went on to play a sport at a major D1 school. Should she have been allow to compete?

Second, what happens in 20 years that we find out the boys who "want to cut off their member" as one poster put it, it is discovered that they have a different DNA coding than boys who don't? What happens if we find out being a gay male really isn't a choice. That they have a coding that is different than men who are heterosexual?

In the early 2000's the big issue was gay marriage, how our morality in our country was going to fall apart because we allowed gay men and women to be married. That hasn't been the case at all.

And this is a legit question, whose rights and civil liberties are being limited?
 
Personally, I base gender on biological sex. It doesn't bother me whatsoever how someone else chooses to identify, but I think it's ridiculous that public schools are investing so much time adjusting policy and curriculum to situations that affect such a fractionally small segment of society.

It's estimated that that roughly 4.5% of all Americans identify as LQBTQ, and 1 in 4 LGBTQ youth use non-binary pronouns. Are we justified in continuing efforts to open doors that make society more inclusive for everyone, including LGBTQ? Of course we should, but the long term solution to easing the social divide that we're all suffering with has to do with the messaging in our schools and workplaces.

We need to shift from specific campaigns of inclusivity (BLM, LGBTQ, etc.) to a more simple and standardized code of behavioral ethics and standards of respect. It doesn't matter whether a person is gay, straight, Male, Female, black, white, Christian, Muslim or Atheist. A person's only societal obligation is that they contribute productively to society, adhere to our laws, and pay their taxes; ie: contribute to the tribe. We're all going to have have opinions on how people should live, but kids are incredibly adaptable. Teach them to respect everyone and dedicate messaging that helps to overcome ALL stereotypes by showing that it's just as damaging to call someone a homophobic or racial slur as it is to label them a white supremacist because of their political leanings, call them "privileged" because of their skin color, or mock them for toxic masculinity.

Or we can continue to kick the can down the road and talk about how hate and bias is justified against people you disagree with.
You mean that crazy old notion of content of one's character and the self-evident truth that all "men" are created equal?

Get the F out of here with the MLK Jr. nonsense, fool.
 
Personally, I base gender on biological sex. It doesn't bother me whatsoever how someone else chooses to identify, but I think it's ridiculous that public schools are investing so much time adjusting policy and curriculum to situations that affect such a fractionally small segment of society.

It's estimated that that roughly 4.5% of all Americans identify as LQBTQ, and 1 in 4 LGBTQ youth use non-binary pronouns. Are we justified in continuing efforts to open doors that make society more inclusive for everyone, including LGBTQ? Of course we should, but the long term solution to easing the social divide that we're all suffering with has to do with the messaging in our schools and workplaces.

We need to shift from specific campaigns of inclusivity (BLM, LGBTQ, etc.) to a more simple and standardized code of behavioral ethics and standards of respect. It doesn't matter whether a person is gay, straight, Male, Female, black, white, Christian, Muslim or Atheist. A person's only societal obligation is that they contribute productively to society, adhere to our laws, and pay their taxes; ie: contribute to the tribe. We're all going to have have opinions on how people should live, but kids are incredibly adaptable. Teach them to respect everyone and dedicate messaging that helps to overcome ALL stereotypes by showing that it's just as damaging to call someone a homophobic or racial slur as it is to label them a white supremacist because of their political leanings, call them "privileged" because of their skin color, or mock them for toxic masculinity.

Or we can continue to kick the can down the road and talk about how hate and bias is justified against people you disagree with.
Patrol, while I agree with you that should be our aspiration, I venture to say if they were included, that if there was a standard of behavior we wouldn't be looking at these "special exceptions" or looking at special campaigns. When someone on this board claims they are worried about suicide rates and yet in the next breath calls them pedophiles you can see we need a ways to go.
 
Patrol, while I agree with you that should be our aspiration, I venture to say if they were included, that if there was a standard of behavior we wouldn't be looking at these "special exceptions" or looking at special campaigns. When someone on this board claims they are worried about suicide rates and yet in the next breath calls them pedophiles you can see we need a ways to go.
There are so many layers to unpeel when talking about suicide rates as they relate to transgenderism.

Social phycologists themselves aren't sure how much we can attribute the suicide rate to the social stigma surrounding gender identity issues. Is it the social pressures that lead people to suicide or are there mental health issues associated with those who have gender identity questions? It's widely known that kids who don't "know" who they are, who don't feel accepted by their families, who don't fit into traditional peer groups are more commonly linked to suicide; but will any amount PSA messaging ever change that? Give or take, 95% of the world identify as heterosexual, and no matter how much we strive for inclusion, if you're transgendered, you're always going to feel like a unicorn socially.

I'm not suggesting that our society turns our backs on people or that we ignore the issue, but I don't think it's ever going to be solvable. My Mom and I have worked in the healthcare industry most of our careers and I have several gay/lesbian family members. I consider myself to be more open and accepting to those who identify as LGBTQ than most people are; certainly people in the 50+ demographic. I'm also raising 16 year old twin boys, so I'm blessed (or cursed) with the younger generation's perspective on things. I can tell you that transgenderism is viewed completely differently by my boys than gay and lesbianism is.

Most (or many) young people today don't bat an eye if a person is gay or lesbian, but there's a stigma with transgendered kids. Will that ever change? I think it will get better, but at best or with the most progressive outlook, it's still going to be viewed with pity or a disingenuous acceptance. There's a big difference socially between same sex attraction than there is not knowing who you are or being a masculine man who identifies as woman. I'm not saying that's how I feel, but I think that deep down, it's how most people feel. More importantly, I think it's how transgendered people view themselves, which is the root cause of the suicidal thoughts.
 
I have a problem being called a bigot because I refuse to have sex with a dude turned woman with a fake front hole vagina. That's BS.
 
I have a problem being called a bigot because I refuse to have sex with a dude turned woman with a fake front hole vagina. That's BS.

Damn.....Is that something that you're asked a lot? I must not be sexy enough for transgender people. I've never been asked to get it on with one.

FWIW, nobody thinks that someone is a bigot for not being LGBT or if you aren't interested in having sex with them. What makes someone a bigot is if they are demented enough to say that they consider transgender people future pedophiles just because they are transgender. Hate speech and delusional belief systems are key giveaways that someone might be a bigot. Your post here is yet another sign that people have a pretty good reason to suspect that you just might be a bigot. If you feel insecure about the issue, looking in the mirror and re-evaluating your attitudes towards others is a good place to start.

You might not realize this, but most LGBT people just want to live their lives without being attacked or judged relentlessly. They don't conspire against straight people and aren't looking for ways to attack us.
 
And what do you base that on? XY, XX chromosomes? Are there exceptions? How do you classify an XY female? Or a XXX male (Kleinfelter syndrome)? Can you come up with a SINGLE genetic marker that absolutely 100% of the time objectively determines male/female?
If you're going to look at the genetic level, the presence of a Y chromosome is indicative of a male. There's no such thing as an XY female. There's also no XXX males - genetically, a person cannot be male without a Y chromosome.

Kleinfelter's is when a boy has an extra X (XXY). Girls with an extra X (XXX) have Trisomy X, or Triple X syndrome. Both of those are by definition genetic anomalies and are a separate issue from the LGBTQ conversation.

It has been shown by research that there's no single genetic connection with homosexual tendencies, but there are a number of different genetic markers that are appear to occur more frequently in that population. My understanding is that most of these relate to how various processes in the body are regulated, not to production of any particular hormones, and that the likelihood of any one gene or combination of them is a truly reliable predictor of whether an individual will have same-sex tendencies. Seems like certain combinations increase the odds, but it remains a roll of the dice.

One could argue that these genetic markers constitute a "disorder," and that they can be engineered and "fixed." They probably could be engineered, but I would argue that in most cases, these aren't mutations or anomalies, they're uncommon but apparently natural outcomes. The idea of "fixing" them at the genetic level opens another social can of worms.

In the end, I agree with several things that have been said: trans athletes should compete against those of their biological sex, not those they pick. We should not rewrite every publication to sanitize every reference to gender, race, or ethnicity, or pull down statues of everyone who's every said anything offensive to anyone. We should not burden 95% of our society to make 5% more comfortable. We should stop practices that are clearly discriminatory, but also recognize that there's no way to make everything 100% fair to everyone. We should find ways to help people that are struggling (mentally, financially, etc.), but also recognize that they have to earn it. We should punish people who break the law, but also acknowledge that there may be extenuating circumstances. For a lot of us, we should recognize that if you look at the root of an awful lot of our social issues - white collar crime, suicides, mass shootings, sex offenses, the list goes on - the people that are the problem aren't dark faces, kids, foreigners, etc. They're white men between 30-50.

We should recognize that everyone around us is dealing with their own sh*t, and odds are that a lot of them have a bigger pile than we do. It might be a good idea if, instead of complaining about the smell, we grab a shovel.
 
Personally, I base gender on biological sex. It doesn't bother me whatsoever how someone else chooses to identify, but I think it's ridiculous that public schools are investing so much time adjusting policy and curriculum to situations that affect such a fractionally small segment of society.

It's estimated that that roughly 4.5% of all Americans identify as LQBTQ, and 1 in 4 LGBTQ youth use non-binary pronouns. Are we justified in continuing efforts to open doors that make society more inclusive for everyone, including LGBTQ? Of course we should, but the long term solution to easing the social divide that we're all suffering with has to do with the messaging in our schools and workplaces.

We need to shift from specific campaigns of inclusivity (BLM, LGBTQ, etc.) to a more simple and standardized code of behavioral ethics and standards of respect. It doesn't matter whether a person is gay, straight, Male, Female, black, white, Christian, Muslim or Atheist. A person's only societal obligation is that they contribute productively to society, adhere to our laws, and pay their taxes; ie: contribute to the tribe. We're all going to have have opinions on how people should live, but kids are incredibly adaptable. Teach them to respect everyone and dedicate messaging that helps to overcome ALL stereotypes by showing that it's just as damaging to call someone a homophobic or racial slur as it is to label them a white supremacist because of their political leanings, call them "privileged" because of their skin color, or mock them for toxic masculinity.

Or we can continue to kick the can down the road and talk about how hate and bias is justified against people you disagree with.
We've gone from having to have tolerance to having to be affirmative to this demographic. As I've stated before, its not enough to not go to the gay pride parade and not protest (if that's your thing), we now have to go the the parade and cheer them on otherwise we are not "allies." Its no longer enough in this country to mind your own business, its each and every person's responsibility to make sure every societal wrong is righted, and while I do believe we are obligated to participate in a positive way in society to help our fellow man, asking every person to be an activist is simply absurd.
 
You might not realize this, but most LGBT people just want to live their lives without being attacked or judged relentlessly. They don't conspire against straight people and aren't looking for ways to attack us.
Nope. There is a huge population (I deign to say "the gay agenda") that requires positive affirmation from everyone. You have to be an "ally", and if you aren't actively picketing and participating then you are part of the problem. This has become a very common refrain in the county among multiple groups.
 
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I have a problem being called a bigot because I refuse to have sex with a dude turned woman with a fake front hole vagina. That's BS.
Just remember even though he was acquitted by a Whitman County jury of 2nd and 4th degree assault "Robert Barber is a thug"
 
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Nope. There is a huge population (I deign to say "the gay agenda") that requires positive affirmation from everyone. You have to be an "ally", and if you aren't actively picketing and participating then you are part of the problem. This has become a very common refrain in the county among multiple groups.
Sadly, you're not wrong about this. An extremely large subset of the lesbian population hate men to the point where they wish the entire male gender was wiped off the face of the earth.

I'd venture a guess a guess that the percentage of man hating lesbians is 5x greater than homophobia is in the general population.
 
Sadly, you're not wrong about this. An extremely large subset of the lesbian population hate men to the point where they wish the entire male gender was wiped off the face of the earth.

I'd venture a guess a guess that the percentage of man hating lesbians is 5x greater than homophobia is in the general population.
That's the most egregious understatement of the year. My cousin who is lesbian (one of the coolest chicks I know btw), her wife is an absolute man-hater to the Nth degree. She doesn't even hide it either. Anytime there is a family get together, I don't even acknowledge her existence because people like her shouldn't be rewarded with any sort of positive social interaction, even if faking it. Giving that person the silent treatment is probably the most kind thing I could possibly do.
 
Nope. There is a huge population (I deign to say "the gay agenda") that requires positive affirmation from everyone. You have to be an "ally", and if you aren't actively picketing and participating then you are part of the problem. This has become a very common refrain in the county among multiple groups.

There is definitely a militant component to the LGBT agenda and f#ck those people. However, just like any other group, it's a loud vocal minority that doesn't necessarily reflect the majority's opinion. I work with a lesbian gal and she is completely low key and doesn't expect anything from anyone. We used to have a gay receptionist and although he was a walking stereotype, he was a great guy to hang out with.

They could be lowkey because they know that being militant in Kansas wouldn't work out for them. My experience with LGBT has always been pretty positive.
 
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Nope. There is a huge population (I deign to say "the gay agenda") that requires positive affirmation from everyone. You have to be an "ally", and if you aren't actively picketing and participating then you are part of the problem. This has become a very common refrain in the county among multiple groups.

I lived on Capitol Hill for a long time and found this to be true.

"Silence is violence"
 
Nope. There is a huge population (I deign to say "the gay agenda") that requires positive affirmation from everyone. You have to be an "ally", and if you aren't actively picketing and participating then you are part of the problem. This has become a very common refrain in the county among multiple groups.
Then what if you don't? You get called a bigot? Then what? Probably pot a solid strategy from the gay community. But how does that affect your life? Can you still marry who you would like to marry? Can you still vote? Can you still have dinner at your favorite restaurant? How exactly is your life impacted other than a bad strategy by people with a gay agenda?
 
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I lived on Capitol Hill for a long time and found this to be true.

"Silence is violence"
Many of my clients are gay. Maybe I don't have the militant gay group. But I will ask the same question I asked Bleed...how is your life impacted by not being a positive reinforcement of the gay agenda?
 
Many of my clients are gay. Maybe I don't have the militant gay group. But I will ask the same question I asked Bleed...how is your life impacted by not being a positive reinforcement of the gay agenda?

Well I have gay friends...and several of them don't like the culture because of the above. 2 of them are Republicans and they get treated horribly.

the issue is the same if you are not part of the BLM movement and called racist, white supremacist or homophobic etc...and not just by that particular group but by the left in the community.

Not sure that is progress in society.

Bottom line is I believe in the golden rule...and that doesn't include exceptions if someone believes differently than you do.
 
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