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CougInSpain said:
That's assuming people are willing to work to do so. As we've seen in Joe Biden's America, he feels good about the labor shortages causing wages to spike significantly in places where they shouldn't be spiking. $18/hr to work at Jack in the Box? Are you effing kidding me? Those jobs were never meant to support a family in the first place.
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While I agree that those jobs should be basically reserved for high school kids, I think that if college tuition is going to be what it is, those kids can't be paid $5/hour either.

An additional problem is the limitation on how many hours those kids can work. I understand wanting to give them time to study, but we've effectively made high school kids unemployable. Not only do they typically have very few job skills, but their hours and allowable activities are so limited that there's no point in hiring them.
 
CougEd said:
I am sure single parenting is a problem, but the stats I looked at for 2020, the group with highest rate was white middle age men. White men in 2020 accounted for 69% of the suicides. Am I misreading the data?
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You're not misreading it, but you're misinterpreting it. Mental health disease is linked to a wide range of social ills apart from suicide. The point I was making is that when you have 71% of one demographic (black children) born into single family homes vs. 29% of white children, you have an indisputable data set to work off of as it relates to making impactful social change.

We know that children who are born into single family homes face an extreme social disadvantage from the time they take their first breath.

Poorer health at birth
Developmental delays
Academic performance issues
Emotional stability issues
Poor impulse control
Up to a 40% financial earns disparity

Our politicians are well aware of this, yet they get more traction at the voting booth by categorizing the disparity as "white privilege."

The #1 privilege predictor has everything to do with family, but again, we've gone out of our way as a society to downplay that. If you want to move the needle in terms of helping the most disadvantaged demographic in America, start here. If you can affect change by reducing that 71% number by 20-30%, you'll also see reductions in violent crime, illiteracy, mental health, and unemployment within that same demographic.
 
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CougPatrol said:
You're not misreading it, but you're misinterpreting it. Mental health disease is linked to a wide range of social ills apart from suicide. The point I was making is that when you have 71% of one demographic (black children) born into single family homes vs. 29% of white children, you have an indisputable data set to work off of as it relates to making impactful social change.

We know that children who are born into single family homes face an extreme social disadvantage from the time they take their first breath.

Poorer health at birth
Developmental delays
Academic performance issues
Emotional stability issues
Poor impulse control
Up to a 40% financial earns disparity

Our politicians are well aware of this, yet they get more traction at the voting booth by categorizing the disparity as "white privilege."

The #1 privilege predictor has everything to do with family, but again, we've gone out of our way as a society to downplay that. If you want to move the needle in terms of helping the most disadvantaged demographic in America, start here. If you can affect change by reducing that 71% number by 20-30%, you'll also see reductions in violent crime, illiteracy, mental health, and unemployment within that same demographic.
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Wait....are we not talking about two different things. Did I misread your post about the black community and you raised the issue of suicide?
 
CougPatrol said:
You're not misreading it, but you're misinterpreting it. Mental health disease is linked to a wide range of social ills apart from suicide. The point I was making is that when you have 71% of one demographic (black children) born into single family homes vs. 29% of white children, you have an indisputable data set to work off of as it relates to making impactful social change.

We know that children who are born into single family homes face an extreme social disadvantage from the time they take their first breath.

Poorer health at birth
Developmental delays
Academic performance issues
Emotional stability issues
Poor impulse control
Up to a 40% financial earns disparity

Our politicians are well aware of this, yet they get more traction at the voting booth by categorizing the disparity as "white privilege."

The #1 privilege predictor has everything to do with family, but again, we've gone out of our way as a society to downplay that. If you want to move the needle in terms of helping the most disadvantaged demographic in America, start here. If you can affect change by reducing that 71% number by 20-30%, you'll also see reductions in violent crime, illiteracy, mental health, and unemployment within that same demographic.
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Those factors are not exclusive to one race or the other.
 
CougInSpain said:
Corporate media is absolutely public enemy #1. Until they are held accountable, it will be more shade throwing for anyone with a D next to their name.
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The hilarity of this post is that it’s yet another mindless parroting of what’s been repeated ad nauseam by right wing corporate media as an attack on mainstream “liberal” media.

You do serve your masters.
 
CougPatrol said:
The underclass in America has grown too large now, and no amount of social/financial welfare can overcome the bad family, bad parenting epidemic.
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In a thread cluttered with terrible takes and opinions this is far and away the worst. Horribly cynical and elitist. You hate poor people. Congratulations.
 
Observer11 said:
Those factors are not exclusive to one race or the other.
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No they're not, but the data for children born into single parent homes is incredibly powerful.

Asian Americans 11.5%
White 29%
Hispanic 53%
Black 71%

You don't need expertise in social science to recognize that children born into solid family networks have better predictive outcomes than those who aren't. A child's potential has nothing to do with skin color. Unfortunately though, cultural trends regarding birthing are real, and more emphasis needs to be placed on this if true, lasting change is going to occur.
 
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WillieThePimp said:
In a thread cluttered with terrible takes and opinions this is far and away the worst. Horribly cynical and elitist. You hate poor people. Congratulations.
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If you want to participate in legitimate, well intended discussion, that's fine, but enough with the message board gotcha accusations. You know nothing about me, my heritage, my background in youth programs or as a single parent.
 
CougPatrol said:
No they're not, but the data for children born into single parent homes is incredibly powerful.

Asian Americans 11.5%
White 29%
Hispanic 53%
Black 71%

You don't need expertise in social science to recognize that children born into solid family networks have better predictive outcomes than those who aren't. A child's potential has nothing to do with skin color. Unfortunately though, cultural trends regarding birthing are real, and more emphasis needs to be placed on this if true, lasting change is going to occur.
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How about this kid
 
WillieThePimp said:
The hilarity of this post is that it’s yet another mindless parroting of what’s been repeated ad nauseam by right wing corporate media as an attack on mainstream “liberal” media.

You do serve your masters.
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Is this all you do? Deflect from the real present problem with corporate media and big tech oligarchs? Turning the other cheek definitely suits you leftists. Biting off the nose to spite your face is definitely the party motto.
 
CougPatrol said:
If you want to participate in legitimate, well intended discussion, that's fine, but enough with the message board gotcha accusations. You know nothing about me, my heritage, my background in youth programs or as a single parent.
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When you are a person who helped peddle the insane amount fear related to Covid, who was virtually WRONG about all things Covid related then doubles down on those claims verbalized on this forum, you have no other retort other than distribute Ad Hominin attacks to all those that dissent. WeeWillydaBastardChild is the epitome of what a leftist is.
 
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CougPatrol said:
No they're not, but the data for children born into single parent homes is incredibly powerful.

Asian Americans 11.5%
White 29%
Hispanic 53%
Black 71%

You don't need expertise in social science to recognize that children born into solid family networks have better predictive outcomes than those who aren't. A child's potential has nothing to do with skin color. Unfortunately though, cultural trends regarding birthing are real, and more emphasis needs to be placed on this if true, lasting change is going to occur.
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Ummmm… back to suicide rates . You know that kids from a divorced home have a 14% higher rate of suicide than those who don’t .

If your argument is having black fathers more involved in their kids life , not sure that would be a bad thing .

But you believe that is the only cause for these problems . The leading right wing commentator asked for Browns L Sats . Did he ask for kabanaugh, Gorsuch or Amy B? Why do you think that is ? Why do you think trump went after Obama’s birth certificate when his wife is a “foreigner” . It is one step forward two steps back . When the black community comes out and votes in 2020 next thing you know a bunch of voting reform. Why do you think that is ?
 
I hope each of you gets the gonorrhea strain that has no cure.

Have you dipshits seriously not had your fill of politics and covid chatter???
 
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CougPatrol said:
No they're not, but the data for children born into single parent homes is incredibly powerful.

Asian Americans 11.5%
White 29%
Hispanic 53%
Black 71%

You don't need expertise in social science to recognize that children born into solid family networks have better predictive outcomes than those who aren't. A child's potential has nothing to do with skin color. Unfortunately though, cultural trends regarding birthing are real, and more emphasis needs to be placed on this if true, lasting change is going to occur.
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Where do these numbers come from?
 
CougInSpain said:
I'd have to imagine the live birth record stats. Whether or not there is a father listed on the certificate of live birth, possibly?
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If so that's a flawed methodology. Aren't there a number of reasons the father wouldn't be put on the birth certificate?

My guess is however the results are arrived at it's based on an extrapolation.
 
SaveFerris said:
If so that's a flawed methodology. Aren't there a number of reasons the father wouldn't be put on the birth certificate?

My guess is however the results are arrived at it's based on an extrapolation.
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That's why I'm curious where these numbers are published.

I haven't found any source that puts the rate as high as 71%, most aren't even close. But there's a lot of variability based on how you count the data. Does "single" really mean a single-parent home, or does it mean unmarried? What if the parents are unmarried but living together? What if it's the child of a same-sex couple?

I don't dispute that there are disadvantages to true single-parent homes. Those issues can be compounded if the parent is young, already poor, urban, or (often) Black or Hispanic. But without knowing how the numbers were generated, it's difficult to clearly see what the issue is or where.
 
Flatlandcoug said:
FWIW, I'll never understand how anyone identifies with a politician so much that they would take on their name as part of their persona. In time, you'll realize that Trump is a jizz stain on our history and you'll be ashamed that you took on his name in the manner that you have.

FWIW, I think Biden is a twit, don't like Hillary Clinton and think she's an attention seeking whore, can't stand Pelosi and her PEZ dispenser head and generally dislike the fact that Democrats have made it obvious that they value the urban poor more than they do everyone else......but they are all better than that fuggin' Cheeto dictator-wannabe that you named yourself after.

America is going to be a better place when that knucklehead dies on a toilet trying to squeeze out the previous day's cheeseburger.
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He was such a dictator that he had so much power and is now no longer in the White House! Yur a brilliant Kansan.
 
CougEd said:
Dull here...yikes is absolutely correct. I mean serious that is your evidence? That is your evidence for help screwing up a democracy? Seriously.

In the 70's there was a band called KISS. For a short period of time they outdrew every band out there. Does that mean they are more popular than say Paul McCartney, the Eagles etc? Hell no. Just because people attended Trumps rallies does not give a good snap shot of what is going on.

Maybe something you can relate to...the Dallas Cowboys/Notre Dame. Most watched teams. America's team. And yes there may be more people watching them than other teams, but way more people are watching them to lose. Because Biden garnered 6 mill more votes doesnt mean he is most popular president ever, cause that would mean the guy who got 76 mill is second most popular ever. And his poll numbers were below 44%, Are you saying Trump with his low poll numbers is the most popular president ever?

Clinton and Trump in Michigan and Wisconsin were within 40k votes. Dems hated Clinton. Biden is much more well liked. With the economy hitting the kids in 2020, the pandemic, the lies about the severity of covid, the bleach/lysol/disinfectant taken internally, his trusting of putin more than his own internal agencies, and finally believing there are some very fine white supremacist's. Take all of that to slightly left and right of center for both parties, they voted the guy out. Republicans voted for Biden. That is the difference.

And you know why it is such bs about election fraud, cause they havent proven it. NO evidence, Georgia recounted three times. No fraud. None. Only fraud is a Prez calling asking someone to find 11780 votes.

So I will mark you down as a KISS fan!
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You voted for the party/ideology/and religious cult that lied about "Russian Collusion" and committed the worst scandal in American history...along with their complicit lapdogs in corporate media, intelligence services lackeys, social media fascists, and other lying corrupt corporate leaders.

We even had the corrupt media and all those idiots who were former FBI, CIA, etc. leaders who publicly discredited Hunter Biden's laptop scandal (based on nothing). The one that revealed his bribe money (from overseas entities/governments) that also were transferred to his esteemed dad. They are now silent even as the corrupt New York Slimes has finally had to admit that "gee, we were wrong, it was actually Hunter's laptop" that was recovered from that small business as first reported in October 2020. No, they weren't wrong. They just lie. All the time.

Our government is incredibly corrupt...as is our media. It is actually scary not to have any accountability for their lies. Dumb people believe our media and you are part of that crowd.

But Ed, i think you are too ignorant to realize you were duped by those corrupt liars. To be kind, you and Flatland are dumber than a box of rocks.

Sorry, I despise fools and idiots who are also naive. People like you have no business voting. You are a danger to society when voting.

Have a nice day.
 
How_did_this_happen? said:
He was such a dictator that he had so much power and is now no longer in the White House! Yur a brilliant Kansan.
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WTF are you doing bringing up a post from days ago? You that fuggin' bored tonight? Go watch some basketball!

And yes.....Trump is a sorry a$$ wannabe dictator who is so lame that he couldn't even get that right
 
Flatlandcoug said:
WTF are you doing bringing up a post from days ago? You that fuggin' bored tonight? Go watch some basketball!

And yes.....Trump is a sorry a$$ wannabe dictator who is so lame that he couldn't even get that right
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Go back to sleep. I don't care about Trump. I do care about fake scandals. You always make no sense. A "dictator" would not lose an election fool. Get it?
 
CougEd said:
Ummmm… back to suicide rates . You know that kids from a divorced home have a 14% higher rate of suicide than those who don’t .

If your argument is having black fathers more involved in their kids life , not sure that would be a bad thing .

But you believe that is the only cause for these problems . The leading right wing commentator asked for Browns L Sats . Did he ask for kabanaugh, Gorsuch or Amy B? Why do you think that is ? Why do you think trump went after Obama’s birth certificate when his wife is a “foreigner” . It is one step forward two steps back . When the black community comes out and votes in 2020 next thing you know a bunch of voting reform. Why do you think that is ?
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You truly are dumb. It's shocking.
 
CougPatrol said:
No they're not, but the data for children born into single parent homes is incredibly powerful.

Asian Americans 11.5%
White 29%
Hispanic 53%
Black 71%

You don't need expertise in social science to recognize that children born into solid family networks have better predictive outcomes than those who aren't. A child's potential has nothing to do with skin color. Unfortunately though, cultural trends regarding birthing are real, and more emphasis needs to be placed on this if true, lasting change is going to occur.
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The left love blacks being victims. They have no party if black folks were to thrive. They'd disappear with no power.
 
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CougPatrol said:
Here’s one source.

Out of wedlock childbirths - Yale University
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It’ll take some time to read it all, but the thing that immediately pops out is that you misstated the statistic. You said 71% of Black children are born to single-parent homes. That’s not what the source says. It indicates that 71% of Black children are born “out of wedlock.”

It’s extremely likely that your basic point is still correct, but those 2 things are not the same, and the proportion born/living in actual single parent homes is going to be lower.
 
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How_did_this_happen? said:
Go back to sleep. I don't care about Trump. I do care about fake scandals. You always make no sense. A "dictator" would not lose an election fool. Get it?
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I said "wannabe dictator". The only reason why Trump isn't President today is because our military wouldn't be part of his bullsh!t and Pence had a lot more moral fiber than people gave him credit for. Thank God that the leaders of our armed forces are above the silly stupidity of t-shirt politics that we have today.

If you don't believe that Trump would have used the military to stay in power if he thought it would work, you haven't paid attention to what that narcissistic m'fer has been saying for the past six years. He worships at the feet of other dictators and wishes that he could be them. He's been trying to steal back the election ever since it became obvious that he wasn't going to win legitimately. We're just lucky that our constitutional safeguards were barely strong enough to keep him from going full blown dictator.

I'll be glad for our next President who isn't named Biden or Trump.
 
Flatlandcoug said:
I said "wannabe dictator". The only reason why Trump isn't President today is because our military wouldn't be part of his bullsh!t and Pence had a lot more moral fiber than people gave him credit for. Thank God that the leaders of our armed forces are above the silly stupidity of t-shirt politics that we have today.

If you don't believe that Trump would have used the military to stay in power if he thought it would work, you haven't paid attention to what that narcissistic m'fer has been saying for the past six years. He worships at the feet of other dictators and wishes that he could be them. He's been trying to steal back the election ever since it became obvious that he wasn't going to win legitimately. We're just lucky that our constitutional safeguards were barely strong enough to keep him from going full blown dictator.

I'll be glad for our next President who isn't named Biden or Trump.
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So you must love the name 'Harris'?
 
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I said "wannabe dictator". The only reason why Trump isn't President today is because our military wouldn't be part of his bullsh!t and Pence had a lot more moral fiber than people gave him credit for. Thank God that the leaders of our armed forces are above the silly stupidity of t-shirt politics that we have today.

If you don't believe that Trump would have used the military to stay in power if he thought it would work, you haven't paid attention to what that narcissistic m'fer has been saying for the past six years. He worships at the feet of other dictators and wishes that he could be them. He's been trying to steal back the election ever since it became obvious that he wasn't going to win legitimately. We're just lucky that our constitutional safeguards were barely strong enough to keep him from going full blown dictator.

I'll be glad for our next President who isn't named Biden or Trump.
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Even before that. He was saying for a year before the election that if he lost it was because of fraud.
 
Observer11 said:
So you must love the name 'Harris'?
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Oh dear God, don’t let her be the candidate. Even the Dems have to know she’s not their best shot.

If the Republicans roll out Trump again, the election choices will be Trump/not Trump. All the Dems have to do is present a candidate that the anti-Trump crowd can accept, they don’t have to embrace them. That’s not Harris. Moving her up the ticket will be throwing the election.
 
Flatlandcoug said:
Hope the GOP picks someone other than Trump so I can vote Republican again.
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You won't vote Republican because you are too much about feelings instead of facts. You want to feel good even if it means voting for a deeply corrupt, incompetent, stupid, and dementia- ridden old man. Trump has many flaws, but from a policy perspective he was very solid and did a lot of great things. Only immature voters focus on how much they like a guy. I couldn't care less how much I dislike someone if their policies are best for the country. It is idiotic to call him a wannabe dictator. He showed no inclination for that and its stupid to say otherwise. You don't deserve to vote. You think like a woman.

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How Hillary Clinton colluded with US intelligence

If you worry about democracy, worry about the fact that Hillary almost became president anyway
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