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You must have missed the invocation of the Emergency Powers Act for the first time in the country's history?
Or the seizing of assets by the government without due process? Or the excessive use of force on elderly people?

Another authoritarian added to the list. Not surprised. Mark another one down in favor of horses trampling citizens.

The use of authoritarianism is wrong wherever practiced. What's your next deflection/whataboutism?
So you’re saying if “peaceful” BLM protesters parked semis and pickups outside your home and business effectively shutting it down for 3 weeks resulting in lost business and $$$ and partied outside your house all night with loud music while waving swastikas and confederate flags and verbally abusing you whenever they felt like it you’d be totally down with their cause because they’re “peaceful”?
 
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So......there is a huge difference between told to get a vaccination and being told that you are going to be taxed and governed from afar with no right to representation. Same goes with slavery and racial discrimination. Contrary to all of the BS propaganda out there, the vaccines are relatively safe and harmless compared to the virus and the anecdotal stories of people being harmed are limited. Being told that you don't have the right to pick your own representatives to determine how you go through life is a bit bigger deal. So.....kind of a dumb comparisons to make. There are times where a group of people have tried to go through legal channels and nothing but stronger protests work......in my view, vaccines are a stupid hill to die on.

Next......I never suggested that we should be murdering protesters, so bringing up Kent State is moronic. When I said that I had zero patience for protesters, I actually said that I had no zero patience for protestors that don't respect other people's rights as they protest. You kind of just let that slip as you try to twist my words. I actually said that I'm fine with any protester having their say as long as they are respectful.

In terms of harm, the truckers were harming businesses by restricting transport of goods and they were inhibiting the movement of the public. I have no doubt that a lot of poor bastards missed meetings or deadlines and were financially harmed by your heroes in trucks. You focus on "property" so you can say, "but....but....what about...." when I've already said that I think it's a stupid game to play.

On your final sentence, the hypocrisy oozing from the right on protests is just fuggin' unbelievable. I already said that I don't use a political lens to judge a protest....but you can't help but ignore that. Don't be fuggin' chump and try to gaslight me about this. It just makes you look like a moron.
You gaslight yourself just fine, flat.
 
So you’re saying if “peaceful” BLM protesters parked semis and pickups outside your home and business effectively shutting it down for 3 weeks resulting in lost business and $$$ and partied outside your house all night with loud music while waving swastikas and confederate flags and verbally abusing you whenever they felt like it you’d be totally down with their cause because they’re “peaceful”?
If you could find instances of BLM doing that. But the Antifa and BLM riots were anything but 'peaceful'. Unless you define 'peaceful' as looting and rioting and setting fire to things. You already know this. Or maybe you don't.

And go ahead and source the swastikas and confederate flags in Ottawa. Did the bros with Ray Bans and khakis take a road trip from DC to the north?
 
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You must have missed the invocation of the Emergency Powers Act for the first time in the country's history?
Or the seizing of assets by the government without due process? Or the excessive use of force on elderly people?

Another authoritarian added to the list. Not surprised. Mark another one down in favor of horses trampling citizens.

The use of authoritarianism is wrong wherever practiced. What's your next deflection/whataboutism?
That's all the Libs have. They don't have an actual policy or stance to which they can stand on that truly embodies the liberties and freedoms this country was founded upon. They are so concerned with hurt feelings and associate anything that is contrary to their beliefs as racist and/or anything 'phobic'. Its really quite sad how liberals/leftists think because how awful must it be going through life always looking for something to be upset about.
Wow … isn’t the right to vote a liberty? I stand for that . I have the “liberty” not to have 10 individuals in position of power to attempt to overturn the will of millions of people . That should be the foundation of our “liberty”
 
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If you could find instances of BLM doing that. But the Antifa and BLM riots were anything but 'peaceful'. Unless you define 'peaceful' as looting and rioting and setting fire to things. You already know this. Or maybe you don't.

And go ahead and source the swastikas and confederate flags in Ottawa. Did the bros with Ray Bans and khakis take a road trip from DC to the north?
Some were not peaceful, most were. The one's in Spokane were also as I personally was in one during the summer as an anecdote. There certainly were isolated incidents, mostly AFTER the official marches concluded involving anti-protesters. Since neither of us will be able to agree on a specific definition of "peaceful" throughout an entire march to get a meaningful statistic on the percentage of non-peaceful protests it will be pointless for you to provide a list of outliers, which I assume you would be inclined to do.

I'm with Flat and the vast majority of humanity: if you loot or destroy property you need to be taken down legally. Taihtsat
 
Some were not peaceful, most were. The one's in Spokane were also as I personally was in one during the summer as an anecdote. There certainly were isolated incidents, mostly AFTER the official marches concluded involving anti-protesters. Since neither of us will be able to agree on a specific definition of "peaceful" throughout an entire march to get a meaningful statistic on the percentage of non-peaceful protests it will be pointless for you to provide a list of outliers, which I assume you would be inclined to do.

I'm with Flat and the vast majority of humanity: if you loot or destroy property you need to be taken down legally. Taihtsat
Please cite where the Canadian truckers have done either.
 
There is no doubt that the people supporting the truckers would be losing their minds if it was brown or black people blocking a highway. Freedom only matters if it matches your demographics and world view. In some peoples view of the world, brown people should remember that in the good ol' days, they understood their place in the world as laborers and servants.
Well that's true across all genre's. Hell, if a Caucasian coach punched another coach; particularly a black or brown skinned coach, for calling an unnecessary timeout at the end of a game, the Twitterverse would explode! What do you think Juwan Howard's punishment should be for PUNCHING another coach? I mean, can you imagine if Mike Leach did that?

Shifting back to politics, we just recently saw an example where every sitting democrat congressperson encouraged citizens to riot and violently protest the murder of George Floyd. I watched our Governor Jay Inslee lie and play coy when he was asked about the takeover of 6 city blocks in downtown Seattle which led to a murder and multiple violent uprisings.

Aren't you tired of the double standards and woke / RINO rhetoric that we're bombarded with daily?
 
Well that's true across all genre's. Hell, if a Caucasian coach punched another coach; particularly a black or brown skinned coach, for calling an unnecessary timeout at the end of a game, the Twitterverse would explode! What do you think Juwan Howard's punishment should be for PUNCHING another coach? I mean, can you imagine if Mike Leach did that?

Shifting back to politics, we just recently saw an example where every sitting democrat congressperson encouraged citizens to riot and violently protest the murder of George Floyd. I watched our Governor Jay Inslee lie and play coy when he was asked about the takeover of 6 city blocks in downtown Seattle which led to a murder and multiple violent uprisings.

Aren't you tired of the double standards and woke / RINO rhetoric that we're bombarded with daily?
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Malcolm was right.
 
If you could find instances of BLM doing that. But the Antifa and BLM riots were anything but 'peaceful'. Unless you define 'peaceful' as looting and rioting and setting fire to things. You already know this. Or maybe you don't.

And go ahead and source the swastikas and confederate flags in Ottawa. Did the bros with Ray Bans and khakis take a road trip from DC to the north?
I was giving you a hypothetical. But you knew that.
 
So based on what I have seen Carlson say, do I believe he is a racist. Not what you believe Lemon told me, cant tell what is in the mans heart. But I do know what he will do for money and it doesn't match up with my moral code.
Don't watch either of them.

Did Carlson repeatedly call Robert Barber a "thug"?

The "what people will do for money" and your moral code. CPW got $3million to blame Doba.
That was after getting NCAA sanctions at EWU (while not accepting responsibility).
He walked out on EWU while under contract and stole their staff.

But to be perfectly fair four years later he did not pursue Cooper Kupp after his buddy Beau Baldwin (his current Cal Poly boss) had offered.
 
I hate all of you. stfu about politics and covid!

If you don’t I swear to you I will fuc$ing start posting shit about Wulff to change the threads.
Hiring CPW over a more qualified black man was Wulff supremacy in action.
 
Well...he did clog up Spencer Waheems toilet. I wonder who had to man the plunger in that one
Aryan power move. "I can sh** in your house and you can't stop me"

Also why 3rd Amendment in the Bill Of Rights for the US Constitution bans "Quartering of Troops"
In this case it was "Quartering for Deuce"

Someday, Bezos will probably pay to get a law passed requiring citizens to provide "poop sanctuary" for his delivery drivers
 
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Well that's true across all genre's. Hell, if a Caucasian coach punched another coach; particularly a black or brown skinned coach, for calling an unnecessary timeout at the end of a game, the Twitterverse would explode! What do you think Juwan Howard's punishment should be for PUNCHING another coach? I mean, can you imagine if Mike Leach did that?

Shifting back to politics, we just recently saw an example where every sitting democrat congressperson encouraged citizens to riot and violently protest the murder of George Floyd. I watched our Governor Jay Inslee lie and play coy when he was asked about the takeover of 6 city blocks in downtown Seattle which led to a murder and multiple violent uprisings.

Aren't you tired of the double standards and woke / RINO rhetoric that we're bombarded with daily?

That's the thing that you can't seem to grasp. I think Inslee was a twit for allowing that protest to drag on. If I were king, I'd send cops out at 6 pm and tell everyone that they have 30 minutes to get their asses off the street or else. I would have had the national guard and police sweeping business districts in Minnesota in the evening and arresting the crap out of people a couple years back.

I would also impound those trucks that were blocking bridges and traffic. If they had gone up on the highways and blocked them for an hour.....I'd be annoyed but I'd think "whatever".

I think that the liberals had it wrong when they decided to turn a blind eye on what happened a couple summers back and I think it's wrong to cheer on these truck drivers. Where I think people get weird on protests is when they get angry about protests that don't have any impact at all on people. I've never understood the outrage directed at Colin Kaepernick when he was kneeling and it was disappointing to see how many people lost their sh!t when other athletes were kneeling in 2020 and 2021. Kneeling has zero impact on anyone but somehow, that's a national travesty. Truck drivers actively ruining people's livelihoods? Freedom, Bro!
 
Your intellectual dishonesty is noted.
Because I can telepathically denote 'hypotheticals'.

Perhaps you should improve your writing skills to make it obvious when you are off in fantasy land.

Or keep running the old 'I was kidding' angle.
 
That's the thing that you can't seem to grasp. I think Inslee was a twit for allowing that protest to drag on. If I were king, I'd send cops out at 6 pm and tell everyone that they have 30 minutes to get their asses off the street or else. I would have had the national guard and police sweeping business districts in Minnesota in the evening and arresting the crap out of people a couple years back.

I would also impound those trucks that were blocking bridges and traffic. If they had gone up on the highways and blocked them for an hour.....I'd be annoyed but I'd think "whatever".

I think that the liberals had it wrong when they decided to turn a blind eye on what happened a couple summers back and I think it's wrong to cheer on these truck drivers. Where I think people get weird on protests is when they get angry about protests that don't have any impact at all on people. I've never understood the outrage directed at Colin Kaepernick when he was kneeling and it was disappointing to see how many people lost their sh!t when other athletes were kneeling in 2020 and 2021. Kneeling has zero impact on anyone but somehow, that's a national travesty. Truck drivers actively ruining people's livelihoods? Freedom, Bro!
I agree with your points here, but what do you mean when you say that I can't seem to grasp this? I comment on maybe 1 of every 50 political posts on here.
 
Don't watch either of them.

Did Carlson repeatedly call Robert Barber a "thug"?

The "what people will do for money" and your moral code. CPW got $3million to blame Doba.
That was after getting NCAA sanctions at EWU (while not accepting responsibility).
He walked out on EWU while under contract and stole their staff.

But to be perfectly fair four years later he did not pursue Cooper Kupp after his buddy Beau Baldwin (his current Cal Poly boss) had offered.

Well that's true across all genre's. Hell, if a Caucasian coach punched another coach; particularly a black or brown skinned coach, for calling an unnecessary timeout at the end of a game, the Twitterverse would explode! What do you think Juwan Howard's punishment should be for PUNCHING another coach? I mean, can you imagine if Mike Leach did that?

Shifting back to politics, we just recently saw an example where every sitting democrat congressperson encouraged citizens to riot and violently protest the murder of George Floyd. I watched our Governor Jay Inslee lie and play coy when he was asked about the takeover of 6 city blocks in downtown Seattle which led to a murder and multiple violent uprisings.

Aren't you tired of the double standards and woke / RINO rhetoric that we're bombarded with daily?
Woody Hayes lost his job. I don't remember what Bobby Knight did or the punishment.

Howard...if he lost his job I would be fine with it, if he is suspended for half the season I am ok with that two. I am not ok with a one or two game suspension.
 
Don't watch either of them.

Did Carlson repeatedly call Robert Barber a "thug"?

The "what people will do for money" and your moral code. CPW got $3million to blame Doba.
That was after getting NCAA sanctions at EWU (while not accepting responsibility).
He walked out on EWU while under contract and stole their staff.

But to be perfectly fair four years later he did not pursue Cooper Kupp after his buddy Beau Baldwin (his current Cal Poly boss) had offered.
Man- Paul Wulff , all the time Yaki. Time for you to come out of the closet it is ok. A serious question...did your significant other cheat on you with him. I have never seen one person hang on to the past with a guy no one cares about. I take that back. Like every coach who put in time here, I hope he is healthy.

Serious --are you going to speak of moral code and the NCAA and college football? College football has its own code and I am certainly not going to change it. When WSU hired Leach, an era ended for the Cougs. They joined the big time.

And Carlson, not sure if he knows if a football is stuffed or pumped.
 
Because I can telepathically denote 'hypotheticals'.

Perhaps you should improve your writing skills to make it obvious when you are off in fantasy land.

Or keep running the old 'I was kidding' angle.
There’s nothing complicated about it - I painted a scenario equivalent to what happened in Ottawa but instead I placed it on your doorstep. How complicated is that? Is English your second language? If Paul Wulff came to your house he’d take a giant shit right on your bathroom floor and then come out, pick his nose and smear it on your face. And laugh at you while doing it.
 
Don't watch either of them.

Did Carlson repeatedly call Robert Barber a "thug"?

The "what people will do for money" and your moral code. CPW got $3million to blame Doba.
That was after getting NCAA sanctions at EWU (while not accepting responsibility).
He walked out on EWU while under contract and stole their staff.

But to be perfectly fair four years later he did not pursue Cooper Kupp after his buddy Beau Baldwin (his current Cal Poly boss) had offered.
Bu your math and logic, Leach got 32 mill to blame Pullman and lack of resources as to why he couldn' beat UW. Not sure what Leach or Wulff have to do with the discussion but I will try and find a thread
 
Man- Paul Wulff , all the time Yaki. Time for you to come out of the closet it is ok. A serious question...did your significant other cheat on you with him. I have never seen one person hang on to the past with a guy no one cares about. I take that back. Like every coach who put in time here, I hope he is healthy.

Serious --are you going to speak of moral code and the NCAA and college football? College football has its own code and I am certainly not going to change it. When WSU hired Leach, an era ended for the Cougs. They joined the big time.

And Carlson, not sure if he knows if a football is stuffed or pumped.
You equated your pleasure in watching Paul Wulff football with watching another man screw your wife?

Nice KinkEd
 
Well that's true across all genre's. Hell, if a Caucasian coach punched another coach; particularly a black or brown skinned coach, for calling an unnecessary timeout at the end of a game, the Twitterverse would explode! What do you think Juwan Howard's punishment should be for PUNCHING another coach? I mean, can you imagine if Mike Leach did that?

Shifting back to politics, we just recently saw an example where every sitting democrat congressperson encouraged citizens to riot and violently protest the murder of George Floyd. I watched our Governor Jay Inslee lie and play coy when he was asked about the takeover of 6 city blocks in downtown Seattle which led to a murder and multiple violent uprisings.

Aren't you tired of the double standards and woke / RINO rhetoric that we're bombarded with daily

Well that's true across all genre's. Hell, if a Caucasian coach punched another coach; particularly a black or brown skinned coach, for calling an unnecessary timeout at the end of a game, the Twitterverse would explode! What do you think Juwan Howard's punishment should be for PUNCHING another coach? I mean, can you imagine if Mike Leach did that?

Shifting back to politics, we just recently saw an example where every sitting democrat congressperson encouraged citizens to riot and violently protest the murder of George Floyd. I watched our Governor Jay Inslee lie and play coy when he was asked about the takeover of 6 city blocks in downtown Seattle which led to a murder and multiple violent uprisings.

Aren't you tired of the double standards and woke / RINO rhetoric that we're bombarded with daily?
Patrol, I take your posts to be well informed and measured, but this "EVERY sitting democrat congressperson ENCOURAGED citizens to RIOT and VIOLENTLY protest..." is absurd on every conceivable level. You don't REALLY stand by that, do you?
 
My issue wasn't about the truckers. It was your characterization of all the BLM protests being riots and not peaceful. Taihtsat
I will stipulate the BLM protests in many many cases broke into non-peaceful riots.

Including the one in Spokane in which you participated. The protest, not the riot.

Though perhaps you got your vandalism on after the main event.
 
There’s nothing complicated about it - I painted a scenario equivalent to what happened in Ottawa but instead I placed it on your doorstep. How complicated is that? Is English your second language? If Paul Wulff came to your house he’d take a giant shit right on your bathroom floor and then come out, pick his nose and smear it on your face. And laugh at you while doing it.
Your reading comprehension is almost as poor as your writing skills. My response was very clear:

"If you could find instances of BLM doing that. But the Antifa and BLM riots were anything but 'peaceful'. Unless you define 'peaceful' as looting and rioting and setting fire to things. You already know this. Or maybe you don't."

Still waiting for the "progressives' to cite violence, looting or rioting by the truckers.
 
I will stipulate the BLM protests in many many cases broke into non-peaceful riots.

Including the one in Spokane in which you participated. The protest, not the riot.

Though perhaps you got your vandalism on after the main event
The march I participated in most certainly did NOT break out into a non-peaceful riot.

You are confusing the three subsequent marches that originated in riverfront park with the initial protest at night where the police fired rubber plugs and teargas at the crowd after a couple business's had some damage done to them. Taihtsat
 
Your reading comprehension is almost as poor as your writing skills. My response was very clear:

"If you could find instances of BLM doing that. But the Antifa and BLM riots were anything but 'peaceful'. Unless you define 'peaceful' as looting and rioting and setting fire to things. You already know this. Or maybe you don't."

Still waiting for the "progressives' to cite violence, looting or rioting by the truckers.

I only know a couple people that felt that the violence and looting was acceptable. The vast, vast majority of people that I know, right or left leaning, feel that arsonists, looters and vandals should be punished.

You've created this false narrative where it's ok for these truckers to be breaking the law and impeding transportation of people and goods because the libtards weren't vocal enough in their opposition to riots a couple years ago.

Two wrongs don't make a right. Just because idiots did bad things two years ago doesn't mean that idiots can do bad things today. Arson and rioting are not the only ways that people can be harmed.
 
I only know a couple people that felt that the violence and looting was acceptable. The vast, vast majority of people that I know, right or left leaning, feel that arsonists, looters and vandals should be punished.

You've created this false narrative where it's ok for these truckers to be breaking the law and impeding transportation of people and goods because the libtards weren't vocal enough in their opposition to riots a couple years ago.

Two wrongs don't make a right. Just because idiots did bad things two years ago doesn't mean that idiots can do bad things today. Arson and rioting are not the only ways that people can be harmed.
To be clear, observer11 isn’t creating any narrative: he is simply parroting the false narrative propagated by the likes of Hannity, Carlson, and Marjory Taylor Green. You’re giving him way too much credit.
 
I only know a couple people that felt that the violence and looting was acceptable. The vast, vast majority of people that I know, right or left leaning, feel that arsonists, looters and vandals should be punished.

You've created this false narrative where it's ok for these truckers to be breaking the law and impeding transportation of people and goods because the libtards weren't vocal enough in their opposition to riots a couple years ago.

Two wrongs don't make a right. Just because idiots did bad things two years ago doesn't mean that idiots can do bad things today. Arson and rioting are not the only ways that people can be harmed.
another false equivalence.

It doesn't matter what your dipshit neighbor thinks about what's right and wrong; the mayors of a few major cities stood by and watched as their cities were terrorized. The Baltimore mayor literally said "let it burn" or some such shit in 2018. Obama rationalized the violence as well. Trump (not a fan, but...) tried to enforce laws and protect citizens and businesses, as well as federal buildings and was called a racist and a facist. These are leaders and law makers.

Contrast that with truck drivers impeding traffic. Not only are they going after these guys with a military presence, they are hunting down people who are tangentally involved and throwing the book at all of them. Like, real f-you-in-the-ass prison sentences.

You're going to sit there and tell me with a straight face that you don't see the difference between how these two groups of "protestors" are being dealt with?
 
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another false equivalence.

It doesn't matter what your dipshit neighbor thinks about what's right and wrong; the mayors of a few major cities stood by and watched as their cities were terrorized. The Baltimore mayor literally said "let it burn" or some such shit in 2018. Obama rationalized the violence as well. Trump (not a fan, but...) tried to enforce laws and protect citizens and businesses, as well as federal buildings and was called a racist and a facist. These are leaders and law makers.

Contrast that with truck drivers impeding traffic. Not only are they going after these guys with a military presence, they are hunting down people who are tangentally involved and throwing the book at all of them. Like, real f-you-in-the-ass prison sentences.

You're going to sit there and tell me with a straight face that you don't see the difference between how these two groups of "protestors" are being dealt with?

That's the deal, I would have treated the protesters more harshly, so I have no problem with how the truck drivers are being treated. Again, I don't have any problem with protesters going out and expressing themselves for a few hours. My problem is when those protests are extended and cause harm to others, whether that be physical, financial or whatever. Y'all keep saying, "What about the protests in 2020?" as if that makes it ok for people breaking the law today. I'm saying that we need to have firmer rules and enforcement on all protests that get out of hand and disrupt people's lives.

Where I can't get on board with the Right on protests is when they say, "I'm glad that dude ran over those black people on the roadway" and then turn around and say, "But those truckers are just fighting for their livelihood!" You can say "false equivalence" all you want. I see a crap-ton of flat out hypocrisy when it comes to how protesters are supported by the Right. FWIW.....any liberal bitching about the truckers should be looking in the mirror too.
 
I don't like commenting on political issues, and I don't have a dog in this fight, I am as independent as they come. I didn't vote last time, because I could not consciously vote for either one. Trump needs to go away, and the far left needs to go away, and the first one to leave wins. People want alternatives, and it isn't Trump and it isn't the woke, defund the police agenda. The far left and the far right scare moderates, and independents, unfortunately they seem to dictate the headlines, so the first party to rid themselves of their baggage is the one that wins.
 
I don't like commenting on political issues, and I don't have a dog in this fight, I am as independent as they come. I didn't vote last time, because I could not consciously vote for either one. Trump needs to go away, and the far left needs to go away, and the first one to leave wins. People want alternatives, and it isn't Trump and it isn't the woke, defund the police agenda. The far left and the far right scare moderates, and independents, unfortunately they seem to dictate the headlines, so the first party to rid themselves of their baggage is the one that wins.
Trump will be going to the white house in 2024. Why would you say people want alternatives and it isn't Trump. He received 75+ million "legit" votes in 2020, and people don't want Trump? Uh ok.
 
Trump will be going to the white house in 2024. Why would you say people want alternatives and it isn't Trump. He received 75+ million "legit" votes in 2020, and people don't want Trump? Uh ok.
And he lost by about 7 million. Trump may have a greater chance of going to the "big house" by 2024.

Isn't there another candidate that you could worship who has a little more integrity and morals?
 
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