These coaches have had 3 weeks to prepare for this and this is what they decide to do.....smh...you wanna piss of Leach let the other team have a 12 min drive.
Nothing like a 3 man front against the triple option
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Since leach thinks that the triple option is the ground version of the air raid . Then why not try what stops the air raid a three man front? rilliant
Glad to see both safeties are 12 yards off the ball on every snap. Wouldn't want to give up a big pass when we can give up 5-6 yards per rush instead.
Won't hurt my feelings at all if we do a clean gut of all the D coaches. I like Phelps but the DL has been sh## this year
I'm less concerned about the 3 man front, than our LBs lining up 4 yards off the line of scrimmage and our safeties 7. To stop the triple option you must create negative plays to get them out of down and distance. You don't do that playing big play prevent run defense like we are. Our Co-DCs Brutus I and II, need to go, not only don't they know what they are doing, who would want to be our new DC with two demonstrated back stabbers on staff?
Small, slow, and weak.
LBs a full 7b yards off the ball on an obvious dive play.
Consistenly no one has contain or pitch responsibility.
Ive never seen anything this lacking.
LBs a full 7b yards off the ball on an obvious dive play.
Consistenly no one has contain or pitch responsibility.
Ive never seen anything this lacking.
I was just telling my wife how ridiculous it was that our linebackers were 7-8 yards off the ball against these guys. We should have our corners on an island with one safety back and take our chances against these guys. Everyone else within 5 yards of the line of scrimmage.
It's obvious that our offense can score against these guys....we just need to give them the chance to do it.
Nah....we made the gamble that we were going to be in Vegas instead....so we bought tickets to be there at that time and ended up visiting family.
Beside the 15 yard chop block and the 5 yard dropped pitch fumble our d hasn't stopped them one time....unbelievable. The speed D needs to get blown up to Smitherines.
Start over. It'll be bad for two years, fine. It's not like this situation will get any better by standing pat no matter how many years we wait.
You could have grabbed any DC out of the GSL and come up with a better scheme than that. That was circa 1976 stuff Air Force was running.
In fairness...Doba got run over in a key game in 2001 against Oregon, probably kept us out of the Rose Bowl. If he went to the five man front like he did the following week Oregon would not have had 300 plus yards on the ground. Windy day in Pullman and Harrington was having a tough day.
Doba with weeks to prepare doesn't go with 3 DL against a team that only runs the ball. He would've wrecked that front, been multiple, had many run blitzes etc.
Doba wasn't perfect of course, but as just a DC he was pretty dang good.
What is the point of playing devil's advocate here? Do you disagree with the main notion? If not, why bring this up?
“Shutdown” is a bit of revisionist history. The only time it really worked was in 2001 after Oregon ran for like 400 and they used the five man line the next week against UCLA when Deshaun Foster was leading the conference in rushing. He still got over 100 but his longest run was like 20 yards.
Doba also had the personnel to do it.
Because coaches are human. Doba was not perfect. Do I think DOba comes out in a 3 man dline? No
But what gave him a chance was when they could get those big run stuffing two DT's.
The DC in this game didn't give his team a chance. You could see the toss sweep in a presnap read. They had no one outside. It was an easy 10 yards.
The other thing was on a crucial third down they put strong near the line. The receiver runs a streak. Strong vacated the area cause he was in man . They weren't passing it there. Just some strange stuff.
Like Doba, they may look at the tape and say...what the heck were we doing. But Doba had a chance to redeem himself after the Oregon Game when they played UCLA and Deshaun Foster.
Point is Doba, like any good coach, would adapt. With 3 weeks to prepare, he would'nt have a 3 man dline and would've been all out to stop the run.
Not that absolute weak sauce d. It was 8 blockers on 6 in the box all day. truly pathetic.
You guys are debating this as if what defense the bad defensive players are playing would change anything. They wouldn't tackle any better with 5 down and everyone in the box. They may have given up quicker scoring drives though.
I agree. The 11 best players aren’t very good. The DL in particular was bad.
What the heck happened to Oguayo, Taylor and Rogers this year? Disappearing act.
What did the DL have last night, 3 tackles?
He was a freakin beast at making tackles 6 yards downfield
All game long with weeks to prepare
Still shameful looking this morning. That is 10 on 4. How does the defensive staff still have jobs?
