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Mariners with a nice victory yesterday. If they win just one of the next two against Texas, this will be a successful series. After this series, they are coming up to the remaining toughest part of the schedule.
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The toughest teams left on the schedule are the Yankees, Phillies, Orioles, Guardians, Dodgers, and Twins. They play three of those teams in the next five series.
If they can come out of the next 2-3 weeks still in first, the schedule is going to be mostly easy the rest of the way.
MLB Remaining Schedule Strength | Tankathon
Shows the remaining strength of schedule for MLB teams based on the winning percentage of the opponents left on their schedule.
The toughest teams left on the schedule are the Yankees, Phillies, Orioles, Guardians, Dodgers, and Twins. They play three of those teams in the next five series.
If they can come out of the next 2-3 weeks still in first, the schedule is going to be mostly easy the rest of the way.
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I heard they have one of the easier schedules left in the MLB. Texas and Houston still seam dangerous to me though. They have the talent to rip off a ten game win streak and get back in it. Plus when you have head to head series, a 4 game sweep can flip the script quickly. Foot on the gas.Mariners with a nice victory yesterday. If they win just one of the next two against Texas, this will be a successful series. After this series, they are coming up to the remaining toughest part of the schedule.
MLB Remaining Schedule Strength | Tankathon
Shows the remaining strength of schedule for MLB teams based on the winning percentage of the opponents left on their schedule.
The toughest teams left on the schedule are the Yankees, Phillies, Orioles, Guardians, Dodgers, and Twins. They play three of those teams in the next five series.
If they can come out of the next 2-3 weeks still in first, the schedule is going to be mostly easy the rest of the way.
Sweep 🧹 Texas for an 8.5 game lead in the West. Largest lead for the Mariners since 2001.
I’m all-in on this team, hook line and sinker.
I know, I know… “but, but, but, 47 YEARS!!”
Don’t care.
I’m all-in on this team, hook line and sinker.
I know, I know… “but, but, but, 47 YEARS!!”
Don’t care.
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I may be with you. The old mariners would have laid down today having had the series win in their back pocket and had two hits and been shut out. This team is finally out for blood. Bout time.
We went to the game on Saturday. I haven't been to a game in years, but they are really doing up the gameday experience. Loud music, flashing lights, calls to "Get Loud," etc. It was just like going to a football game. Not the usual quiet, chill afternoon games I remember going to. Or is this just a Saturday evening thing?
Is there anything more annoying than going to a sporting event and being told to "Get Loud"? I don't think so.
A close second is being subjected to horrible music being blasted out at 20 decibels louder than an executive jet taking off.
Yes. Going to a stadium and having people give you the stink eye for being “too loud”. Have had this happen to me a few times at Martin on the alumni side. fans aren’t the way they used to be, half the stadium is scrolling on their phones during the action. I have zero problem with the Gameday ops trying to get people into the game.
Took the day off today, I guess.
Oh man, what a stinker. Fraught with bullshit balls and strikes but they got their ass kicked regardless.
Oh man, what a stinker. Fraught with bullshit balls and strikes but they got their ass kicked regardless.
Speaking of what in the hell is up with umps this year. It’s aweful. I like traditions of the game but the technology is there to eliminate the inconsistency of balls and strikes. On top of it you’ve still got these guys who want to be the ump show and eject guys for giving them a sideways look. Don’t understand why baseball hasn’t fixed this yet.
Huge response today with the dominant win. The Mariners still have a big 7 game lead.
5.5. Just looked at the Stros schedule they will be in the division lead by 4th of July
Down to 2. Not quite gonna get lapped by the 4th but should be within a few days of it anyways.
The Ms should actually be sellers at the deadline, this team is going nowhere. Bizarro world they are in first place and going to be faced with these decisions.
Seriously time to blow the whole thing up. Servais, Dipoto, everything.
The Ms should actually be sellers at the deadline, this team is going nowhere. Bizarro world they are in first place and going to be faced with these decisions.
Seriously time to blow the whole thing up. Servais, Dipoto, everything.
I remember the WHITE SOX doing that several years ago when they were within a couple games of - if not their own division lead - certainly the wild card. They've only had one decent year since.
They miss Suarez and Hernandez in this punchless lineup. That's all I have to say about that
Maybe someone with more baseball acumen can answer this for me:
Why is the hitting SO VERY sporadic? Obviously there is hitting talent in the lineup, so are they being used wrong? Or coached wrong? Something else?
Why is the hitting SO VERY sporadic? Obviously there is hitting talent in the lineup, so are they being used wrong? Or coached wrong? Something else?
It's a combination of things.
1. Some of the good hitting talent is about 29 to 32 to 34, etc, which is when superstar bats begin to struggle some, a little. M's have a history of getting superstar bats that 29 to 34, that had a big year, get paid by Seattle, and then either not motivated because already got paid, an or 29 to 34 year old related age struggles.
2. Some of the good hitting talent is rookie prospects. Rookie prospects usually either are like how Julio Rodriguez that have a hot bat for 1 season for Seattle, and then either stay 1,2 seasons, go cold, an or stay hot, then either get traded, or free agent go somewhere else, where usually go red hot somewhere else, or go cold somewhere else.
3. Related to 2 above, sometimes it's like Kelenic, that A. Struggle because overused, too much pressure put on them, coached, used incorrectly, etc, and then go red hot elsewhere.
4. Related to other points above. Usually the way current M's scouts, GM's, President, VP, Coaches, etc, use talented hitters, is they try to get them all to swing for homeruns, when it's a player that like a Ichiro that usually doesn't hit homeruns, and because they are pressured, coached, used, etc, to try to get them to hit homeruns, etc, then they strikeout all the time, don't lay down, get bunts down, don't get infield or regular single base hits, don't steal bases, don't succeed in moving runners over, don't even get to first base, etc.
That's why the average batting average for M's hitters, line up, is the lowest in all of baseball, this season, and why their the lowest get on first base percentage in all of baseball, and why their moving runners over, scoring with runners in scoring position, etc, is lowest in all of baseball.
If M's players would play right, execute, be coached right, used right, not pressured, better motivated, not so polar opposites, both old and very young, lay down bunts, hit singles, don't constantly swing for power, Homer's, move runners over, steal bases, etc, in other words play small ball baseball, and get players better suited for small ball baseball, and use the players they do have right, coach them right, etc, then the hitters, offense, etc, would either be a lot better, or would seem a lot better.
But that's too much to ask.
It really starts at the top, with the owner, president, VP, Team manager(HC), scouts, coaches, etc. Get the right people in M's Leadership, etc, and the hitting, offense, defense, pitching, etc, would be a lot better.
Bumped this so it can be closer to the “completely gone to &”&$ thread.” lol
Seriously though, Trade Deadline: What should Jerry do?
Who do you want?
Seriously though, Trade Deadline: What should Jerry do?
Who do you want?
I mean they need to completely overhaul ther lineup. They aren’t 1 or 2 pieces away. I just don’t see that it makes sense to give up prospects for a bat. They don’t have anything to sell worth buying either unless they want to move a pitcher. Stay put and bring up some of your young talent to get them ready for next year 🤷
Houston is going to end up winning this division by 10+ games.
They have been trying for 2-3 years to get to more of a small ball team, get the ball in play, move runners along, and their plan is proving to be a total and complete failure. They were 10 for 71 over the past 3 series with Runners In Scoring Position, a scorching .140 batting average. And that comes with a couple plays scored as hits that should have been an error. Is the reason that the replacements for Suarez and Hernandez (lots of K's but productive) also have a lot of K's but are less productive due to salary restrictions? The Mariners are infamous about operating to make a profit rather than operating to win a World Series. Speaking of that, does anyone here have any confidence that they will even get to the Series within the next 10-20 years? I don't. And if something drastic doesn't happen in the next week or so to get them off of the MLB record pace for strikeouts, there is no way they even make the playoffs this year.
How much of the blame can be put on Julio, and is it even fair to do that? I think he has to get a fair amount of responsibility, given that he is performing far below the expectations of that huge contract he was given. I am not a professional batting coach, but to me he looks to be totally off balance. He is often swinging and missing and is so off balance that he stumbles over the plate at the completion of the swing. Too many times, actually almost ALL of the time, you see those huge power swings and misses at a crucial time when you need to put the ball into play, advance the runner, get a run with a sac fly or grounder. I wonder if the entire team is infected with baseball stupidity? I sure don't see a lot of baseball smarts exhibited lately.
I’m not sure to what extent major league hitting coaches influence hitters and their approach, but almost all of their guys are underperforming their career numbers. At some point you’ve got to look at Scott and his staff and say WTF?!
I’m not sure if it’s the shift to power and the long ball and you just can’t crank them out in Seattle in April/May because of the marine air, and the players all have F’d up swings by June from trying too hard? If that’s the case build your team and coach it differently. There’s a reason teams in the Midwest tend to run the ball more, the weather sucks in the fall and its hard to throw it in wind and rain.
I was kind of alluding to, but didn't end up making it clear, that a lot of the blame/responsibility goes to DiPoto and upper mgmt. He is the guy making the decisions on who stays and who goes, who is the new kid in town. All done with salary constraints from above.
Aren’t Kevin Mather and Chris Larson still in the ownership group?
Other than rolling out Grey Haired Grandpa for an interview once a qtr as The Mariners Owner front man, what has really changed? Anyone know?
Either bump payroll immediately or sell the team to a Serious Billionaire.
When Santos and Woo return, this pitching staff will be even more impressive.
Other than rolling out Grey Haired Grandpa for an interview once a qtr as The Mariners Owner front man, what has really changed? Anyone know?
Either bump payroll immediately or sell the team to a Serious Billionaire.
When Santos and Woo return, this pitching staff will be even more impressive.
Catie’s track record of success, diverse business experience, and commitment to excellence made her the perfect fit to lead the next chapter of our business operation in Baltimore,”
New owner praising his new President he just poached from the Mariners.
Apparently, Catie felt Baltimore was more committed to excellence, the Mariners tried to low ball her contract, or perhaps both.
New owner praising his new President he just poached from the Mariners.
Apparently, Catie felt Baltimore was more committed to excellence, the Mariners tried to low ball her contract, or perhaps both.
I’m not sure there’s a franchise in a major market that’s less committed to excellence right now. You don’t have to be the Yankees or Red Sox and overspend on FA talent to win.
And when everyone’s underperforming what they have proven capable of, coaches need to go. It’s that simple.
Catie MIGHT OR MIGHT NOT know good hitters and how to get good hitters and how to run hitters, offense, etc, and how to hire good coaches, scouts, managers, team leaders, VP, how to run a successful team, etc, but with the track record of WORST IN BASEBALL History M's OFFENSE, HITTING, OR WORST LACK THEREOF, WHICH THE BUCK, RESPONSIBILITY FOR STOPS AT HER THE LAST 4+ YEARS, BECAUSE OF THAT, ITS A GOOD THING SHE IS GOING ELSEWHERE.
GOOD RIDDANCE.
Now maybe the New M's President might do better. Probably Not, as M's ownership, will probably screw up hiring new President. But it's still theoretically possible that new President might do better.
Guess we will have to wait and see.
yeah these are good I’ve seen them before. Curious if you’re implying the Ms get jobbed more than other teams, that’s Scott’s terrible at working the umps, or both? Or neither just baseball fodder?
It’s long past time to go to robo umps for balls and strikes. It’s a really F’n hard job and the tech is there to do it. Consistency for the players would make the game so much better.
I remember a couple years ago…his rookie year i think, when J-Rod was getting this treatment. Really good feel for the zone and he was getting rung up left and right, some of the pitches not even close.
You realize there is a difference in the responsibilities of the President of BUSINESS Operations and the President of BASEBALL Operations, right? Catie's job duties had a lot more to do with HR, Payroll, Sales, Marketing, the price of garlic fries, etc... than when to lay down a bunt or trade for a player.
What's funny about your "major market" comment is I remember the 90's when the Mariners were considered a small market ball club.
