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You are such a dumb****. My issues with Trump goes far beyond the porn star thing. I made a 20 item list of terrible things that the Orange Stain has done and that list could be extended to 60 if someone wanted to. Trump appears to be guilty of national security crimes far more significant than Hillary Clinton...that you undoubtedly continue to cream your jeans about...but you just blow off Trump's crimes in a silly little game of whataboutism because you can't stand the thought that you've been tonguing the orange taint when you shouldn't have been.
As for George Bush, throw his ass in jail with everyone else. There is a difference between acting on bad intelligence and being a shit-stain that ignores the truth but if we can get past the pathetic race to the bottom that is the current GOP, I'm fine with him going to jail too. So...whatabout Bush? Yeah, f#ck him too.
Your pathetic infatuation with defending the Cheeto is fuggin' gross.
Odd how how you sexualize everything.
And even you appear have realized that Trump is not uniquely bad if you're ready to send your want to be drinking buddy to jail.
What has always happened before Trump was that the classified information was returned promptly when discovered. From the internet:
But rarely are officials punished for these mistakes. That’s in large part because, while federal law does not allow anyone to store classified documents in an unauthorized location, it’s only a prosecutable crime when someone is found to have “knowingly” removed the documents from a proper place.
Trump is the only President or Vice President since the Presidential Records Act of 1978 who knew that they had classified documents and knowingly retained them when notified of the mistake. All of the charges in the indictment relate to the obstruction and refusal to return the documents after he was notified that there was an issue. He's not being charged for having the documents. He's being charged for being the narcissistic a$$hole that he is and refusing to return classified documents when notified. So yeah....there always has been an intent requirement.
As for accountability, did you miss that Trump was voted out of office? As Stretch said, there was basically a four year media campaign against the guy, with anything and everything being thrown out him, whether it was true or false. Remember the bounty crap? Weird how it was viewed differently after the election.
White House: Intel on Russian 'bounties' on US troops shaky
WASHINGTON (AP) — The White House says that the intelligence community does not have conclusive evidence that Russian intelligence operatives encouraged the Taliban to attack American troops in Afghanistan. The assessment, revealed Thursday as the U.S. announced a host of new sanctions on the...
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I try to dumb my comments down to something understandable to the intellectual level of the Trump lovin' simps out there. You definitely fit that bill.
FWIW, Trump is a uniquely horrible person. Few people have shown the level of selfishness, depravity, narcissism, arrogance and self-aggrandizement that Trump has exhibited and certainly there's no President in the past 90 years that's close. Nixon is the closest and sorry, even Nixon is like, "Damn dude...you went there?" when it comes to Trump.
As for accountability, did you miss that Trump was voted out of office? As Stretch said, there was basically a four year media campaign against the guy, with anything and everything being thrown out him, whether it was true or false. Remember the bounty crap? Weird how it was viewed differently after the election.
White House: Intel on Russian 'bounties' on US troops shaky
WASHINGTON (AP) — The White House says that the intelligence community does not have conclusive evidence that Russian intelligence operatives encouraged the Taliban to attack American troops in Afghanistan. The assessment, revealed Thursday as the U.S. announced a host of new sanctions on the...
Trump didn't lose the election because of the bounties. However, even going there, the critiques that were laid on to Trump was that he was unwilling to confront Putin on anything, including the reports of bounties. You keep bringing up George Bush as a war criminal, but it's interesting that you don't seem to mind that Trump "likes" Putin. Here's an excerpt of Trump's comments about Putin after the invasion of Ukraine:
“I went in yesterday and there was a television screen, and I said, ‘This is genius.’ Putin declares a big portion of the Ukraine — of Ukraine — Putin declares it as independent. Oh, that’s wonderful,” Trump said in a radio interview with “The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show.” “He used the word ‘independent’ and ‘we’re gonna go out and we’re gonna go in and we’re gonna help keep peace.’ You gotta say that’s pretty savvy.”
“I knew that he always wanted Ukraine. I used to talk to him about it. I said, ‘You can’t do it. You’re not gonna do it.’ But I could see that he wanted it,” Trump said. “I knew Putin very well. I got along with him great. He liked me. I liked him. I mean, you know, he’s a tough cookie, got a lot of the great charm and a lot of pride. But the way he — and he loves his country, you know? He loves his country.
What's really sad and tragic is that it's obvious that Trump identifies with Vladimir Putin, Kim Jong Un and Xi Jinping more than he does with anyone in American or European politics. Those three dictators are his peers and the people that think most like him. The only saving grace with Trump is that he's a coward who never does anything himself. He always coerces others to do his bidding. If he had the actual balls that those other three have, our country would really be trouble. As it is, he normally fails when the going gets tough.
Maybe you should try the opposite of what you consider "dumbing" things down. Since you clearly have no idea what you're talking about, and don't know a whole lot of history.
Makes sense as his neighbor in his second home in Cali is the Khardasians… he is of their ilk 😜
Sounds like I may have to hop on a boat and go towards the smell to grab a beer with 11…
Go ahead and read the transcript of the call and then explain where there is anything at all bad in there, especially anything remotely justifying impeachment. Well, he did ask why the prosecutor was removed after Biden threatened to withhold a billion dollars in aid if they didn't stop looking into Burisma and son Hunter. Apparently, just even ASKING about Democrat corruption is reason for impeachment.
Several people in that list I have never heard of, so no idea of their connections to Trump or their horrible crimes. Sorry, but I am sure they all deserve the death penalty. Firing squad maybe? Flynn's deal was an absolute travesty, his life was ruined for no good reason. A couple of the others I think may have just been process crimes, in particular something phony made up in the Russian collusion BS. Fortunately there are no Biden associates that have been convicted though, right? Ever heard of the name of Devon Archer? Hmmmm.
Laptop. There will be emails and notes that will connect Joe to Hunter and his "business deals", which essentially means the graft from foreign entities. The Big guy. Corroboration of shares to Joe and verifying the testimony of Tony Bobolinski. The FBI has the laptop, some other folks (NY Post???) have copies of the data. The House is currently investigating Hunter's deals and money transfers, as well as Joe's connection to him. Both of their names show up on the SAR's (Suspicious Activity Reports) that are generated by financial institutions when they suspect that money transfers may be illegal or indicative of illegal activity. SUch as funds going through all of the 20 or so shell companies that the Bidens appear to use. And WTF do they need shell companies anyway if they aren't trying to hide the $$$?
Yes, there are things that would would make me say Trump is done. Actual treason would be a good one. No use going into a long list, but being selectively prosecuted for lesser things than Democrats have gotten away Scott free with does not move the needle for me.
I have not read the indictment, haven't had the time yet. I might. Keep in mind that this is a totally one sided document put out by the opposing political party that has a raging case of Trump Derangement Syndrome and there will be many excellent reasons for rebuttal/debunking what is claimed in the document.
I never said that his behavior would be exonerated, I am saying that selective prosecution is heavily in play here. The Dems are scared shitless that Trump will win in 2024 and they are using every possible method, legal or non-legal, ethical or non-ethical to try to destroy the man politically. Ask yourself why Trump's stuff is covered 24x7 by the media, and as more and more information is coming out about Biden's grift and bribery activities the media ignores Joe totally and is totally uncurious as to why the DOJ appears to be blatantly slow walking everything about the Biden Crime Family.
Hmmmm, interesting approach. Gotta say though, I am curious about all the Trump hating simps that pretend that Clinton was accused of a capital offense, and also that the offense was for getting a blowjob. His actions may have been adulterous, immoral, ugly, even illegal (you know, all that stuff about sexual harassment by a superior over an underling in the organization), but that was NOT why he was impeached. His impeachment was for lying under oath, which is why he lost his bar license. And you know damn well that he was not impeached for getting a BJ, so why are you promoting that lie?
BTW, I always thought Clinton was sleazy, but he should not have been impeached. Also thought if he was an honorable man he would have stepped down once it was proven that he had lied under oath. Too much ego to do that, though. Unfortunately for the Dems, I believe to this day that Clinton cost the Dems the presidency in 2000, as Gore would have been able to get the win if he was campaigning as the president and not as the veep.
There are three quotes that detail exactly why Joe Biden should never have been elected president:
1. Bob Gates- "Joe Biden has been wrong on every major foreign policy issue that he was involved in."
2. Barack Obama- "Never underestimate Joe's ability to **** things up!"
3. Joe Biden- "Hunter Biden is the smartest person I have ever known."
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Okay, I just gotta ask- exactly what are the serious crimes that Trump has committed that are far worse than HRC?
Reminder- Hillary set up her own private server on the day she was nominated sa Sec of State and then ran ALL of her emails through it. That violated security protocols and many IT professionals have stated it is almost a certainty that her system was hacked by Iran, Russia, China, and North Korea. Likely others.
FWIW, Trump is not being indicted for taking the documents. He's being indicted for refusing to cooperate in returning the documents and covering up their existence. It's the exact same situation. Politicians rarely get busted for the crime...it's always the coverup. The blowjob was merely the excuse to put Clinton on the spot. If there's a difference in these situations, Trump is guilty of being an idiot and creating his own mess. If he would have immediately returned the documents, there wouldn't have been a strong enough case to warrant an indictment. Particularly in today's environment, Clinton's actions were arguably worse than Trump's retention of documents. For the record, I was in support of Clinton's impeachment. If nothing else, it was egregiously stupid for him to get caught up in the situation and made me question everything else about the man's judgement.
Trump crimes?
1) Willfully removing Top Secret documents to show off to his friends and political allies is a more serious crime than being an idiot and using an unsecured server. There's never been any actual proof that information obtained from Clinton's server ended up in the wrong hands. "Almost a certainty" is different than actual evidence. Trump is caught on an audio tape showing classified information to people that he shouldn't. FWIW, the whole "whatabout" with regards to Clinton is irrelevant to me because I wouldn't care if she was in jail.
2) Sexual Assault. He bragged that he could do it (again...caught on tape) and then he lost a court case where he was found guilty of lying that he didn't do it.
3) Violating the emoluments clause. He enriched himself by encouraging folks that wanted to work with him into staying at Trump properties. He refused to separate himself from his businesses while in office.
4) Inciting an insurrection....dead horse...but you know it's true.
5) Blackmail. Trying to coerce a foreign leader into participating in a political hitjob using retention of government money as his threat. Again....dumbass was caught on tape.
6) Election Interference. Trying to coerce the Georgia Secretary of State to "find" 11,000+ votes to try to steal back the state. Again....dumbass was caught on tape.
That's a quick list of recent crimes for Trump. Clinton?
1) She did use a private email server that didn't meet security requirements. See notes above.
2) Their involvement in Whitewater was pretty dirty. They pulled a Trump and managed to be involved without enough proof of knowledge to get away with it.
3) Travelgate....rumors were floated that they fired public servants to get cronies into jobs. Wait...if this is a crime....Trump did more of this than them, but he typically fired his cronies within months....if they didn't leave first.
There are a few other rumors and other BS out there, but it's all unsubstantiated or just regular political attacks. I'm no fan of Clinton but it's obvious that Trump has exhibited a history of breaking laws and being unethical in more ways than anyone else. It's mindboggling to look at the number of times that he's been caught on tape, video or in pictures doing things that are just ridiculous. The joke about "there's always a tweet" is funniest because it's true. Trump does deserve credit for being able to survive scandals that would have taken out any normal politician.
And honestly, a big part of Trump's appeal is that his particular brand of insanity allows him to call out and address real world problems that other politicians are too cowardly to face. He had some great ideas and insights as President. It just sucks that it's counterbalanced by the absurd and sometimes illegal things that he does at the same time. If we could take Trump's instincts, combine it with Biden's ability to negotiate and mix it in with Obama's ability to speak effectively....we'd have one hell of a President. Instead, we get a never ending pendulum of stupidity. Don't worry, the next Republican President will be leading investigations into Biden. The wheel keeps on turning.
You do realize Stretch is completely off his rocker. Someone made a documentary about a guy like Stretch called “The Brainwashing of my Dad” - you can watch it on Amazon Prime. Check it out.
Smith didn’t charge Trump for the 197 documents he returned. He was only charged for what happened after the subpoena. This shows just how nefarious Smith and the doj are. They’re not going to charge Trump for those, just so they let Joe off for returning the documents. They’ll even let Pence skate for cooperating, just so they can let a Joe off.
stretch and dgibbons probably.
stretch and dgibbons probably.
I will try to answer your post by channeling my inner Donald Trump....
Stretch, we have known each other for a long long time. You and I get along great. The job you did for PCC was the best. You are a great great man. The guests we saw were like no others that we saw. You only schedule the best.
Also you tell me to stop when I am being childish and use the same nicknames Donald Trump would come up with, like Marjorie Trator Greene, Loren Bloesbert, or what Matt wants Matt Goetz. You especially don't like my namer for MTG.
I get you want me to read the Ukraine transcript. I have always been good to PCC. I would like you to do me a favor THOUGH because the libtards keep saying Stretch needs to read the indictment, stretch needs to read the indictment. Everyone wants to know what Stretch thinks about the indictment so if you could do us that favor we would be very appreciative.
Stretch if a mobster says on a recording, "I need to to take care of our problem, Big Paulie, or you need whack Big Paulie, you really believe they need to be spanked?
What made it a shake down stretch is that there were conditions when he said "I need a favor though". A good coug works back in the state department and funds to Ukraine were always disbursed in June. They weren't disbursed until September...
Here is a question specifically about the Biden situation and Ukraine. If this was a concern and we wanted to stamp out corruption, why didn't Trump have Ukraine investigate way earlier. Why wait until Joe is a candidate?
I thought the last line would give it away. I should have used /s to be sure.🤦♂️
Stretch, after reading everything you have said...really if we simplify it it is the following. Until a Republican President can get in and investigate and indict a democrat, really anything Trump does is off limits, no big deal. The fact OJ got off, if my wife killed me she shouldn't be prosecuted because OJ was set free...
Your defense is several layers...the first is, even if Trump did it, what's the big deal. So he asked people to come to the capitol and when they got violent he did nothing for three hours. But he didn't have the power to do anything.
He made an imperfect phone call and wanted to withhold aid until they investigated Hunter Biden. WIthholding aid from a country who is fighting a country that has nukes pointed at us.
And when I say what could he do where you said no mas? You said treason. But really, let's for the sake of discussion he did show documents to Saudi Arabia for example, and let's say he got paid 2 billion for it.
Two things would make it fake...one, it would have to be a republican president and his appointed AG to bring charges. Cause if it is Garland for example, it is politically motivated even if there is great evidence.
Or two, they have a wire transfer for 2 billion into Trumps account, but it doesn't specify on the wire "Payment for view of classified documents." So the truth is nothing Trump could do that it would make you step away, cause it is either fake news or politically motivated.
Until Hillary is prosecuted or Biden, Trump has free range as far as you are concerned. It doesn't bother you he had nuclear secrets at a location that has a ton of traffic. It matters what Hillary got away with.
In terms of Hillary, it is a shame there was not a Republican President in the white house with a hand picked AG that could look into her misdeeds. Maybe the truth is democrats are just better at not leaving a huge paper trail that would get them busted .
Gawd I am begging you to be someone else’s nanny. Can you really not just ignore .
I would think with the 23 year old you would have better things to do than beg on the board .
What is really needed here are more threads trumpeting the pros of women raping underage boys. God bless you, Mary Kay Letourneau!
That's the thing that's most interesting about this whole business.
With Clinton, Obama and Biden....there's always a lot of talk about the bad things they did...and there certainly is smoke in a few instances, but there's been no concrete "gotcha" moments where there's no denying that nefarious things were going on.
With Trump, there's tweets, photos, video, audio and all sorts of damning evidence out there and the only defense is, "Well, other people did the same things!" For a very stable genius, Trump has shown a remarkable lack of understanding of how to keep his bad actions from the limelight.
A conservative friend watched the NBA finals game with us last night and was telling us how bad liberals are and their evil long term agenda that they are promoting. I learned about NAMBLA and the Lib's long term plans to promote beastiality. I was shocked at how dark her view of the future is and how much she thinks is going on behind the scenes. I view Democrats as too incompetent to successfully hide some of the stuff she believes in.
She's out of town. But how long are you guys going to drag this shit out? I think you;ve all made your points. About 40 times each.
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You should have made her feel at home by chatting her up about pizzagate and Jewish space lasers. She’s clearly part of the sizable conservative lunatic fringe that’s being mainstreamed further by that dumbf*** house speaker whose junk is kept in a jar on Marjorie Taylor Greene’s desk.
I've posted this clip before, but hey since this thread has no end, I'm posting again. The MTG space laser joke is toward the end.
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And I think you have made yours 45. So until we catch up and even steven we will continue. Maybe close your eyes ?She's out of town. But how long are you guys going to drag this shit out? I think you;ve all made your points. About 40 times each.
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It is strange that these conservatives are the ones who are thinking of pedophile rings, anal sex, bestiality, having sex with Roseanne etc etc .
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I apparently don't even know how to spell bestiality correctly. Got to brush up on my deviances I guess.
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