That was definitely his worst game. But the defense was non-existent in the 2nd half too, so it's tough to really say Tuel makes the difference.
Sounds Like Chun And Schulz have given up!
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I was/am very aware of almost everything that has happened at anytime with Cougar Football.
Not dissing the Lobster. Tuel was better.
In the Wulff system... it was set for Tuel. They expected/planned to have him.
Tuel was definitely more talented. But Lobbestael played better in the WUlff system, overall.
Tuel was probably afraid of getting his neck/back/leg broken. Lobbestael survived it, and wasn't afraid anymore.
I don't believe that Tuel would have made the difference. We gave up 191 yards rushing to Ronnie Hillman. If you give up 191 yards rushing to a team...let alone one running back...you don't deserve to win.
Not to diss on Jeff because the kid was an absolute warrior, and was physically gifted, but under Wulff he had gotten the living shit beat out of him for so long, by the time 2011 came along he simply could no longer pull the trigger. The Lobster avoided much of that constant abuse, and wasn't suffering from the same level of on-field battle fatigue. Halliday was the same, he threw for nearly 500 yards twice in 2011, and single handedly won the ASU game because, in large part, he had never taken an constant arse kicking that Jeff had to endure in 2009 and 2010. Sadly even with an elite QB coach in Leach, in an offense made for QB success, Jeff could only muster 8 TDs as the starter in the "air raid," while his back up, Halliday, threw 15 on more than 40 fewer attempts.
As for a Wulff offense designed to take advantage of Tuel's strength, the kid won one Pac-12 game under Wulff in his entire career, against Oregon State, and in that game he passed the ball 15 times for 157 yards and 1 TD. Paul Wulff couldn't design an offense to take advantage of Patrick Mahomes' strengths, let alone Jeff Tuel's.
Lobbestael threw for 2,584 yards and 19 TDs in 2011, in 8 1/2 games. Only 8 INTs.
In Tuel’s only full season (12 games7 under Wulff, he managed 2,780 yards, 18 TDs and 12 INTs.
Seems like the offense was better suited to Lobbestael.
What makes you say that? Hate isn't a strong enough word. I need to explain myself.
If only the man had said, I need to do a better, or we are losing, that's on me! You know, was a stand up guy. I would still be admiring the guy, the lynch pin on our greatest o-line ever. But no, we get BS claims and excuses that just don't withstand scrutiny. He wasn't just a bad, but a low character coach. When Mike Price left UTEP he apologized for not winning enough games (despite being their winningest coach). When Wulff left WSU, what did he say? Basically, we lacked integrity! And many fans still love him. I just don't get it.
I don't think that there are many fans that "love" Paul Wulff. I'm glad that he's gone and I agree that he acted like a spoiled child in far too many situations, particularly the departure, but I don't hate him the way that many do. Not hating him doesn't mean that I love him.
I don’t know anyone that loves him as a coach. But it’s ok to be glad that he was replaced and still be appreciative of what he gave to WSU on the field. He’s still a great Coug for that alone, and I’m guessing he probably regrets the sniveling on his way out.
I wasn't referring to you, you aren't a chronic purveyor of the myth that Wulff faced a no win situation and was hard done by WSU at the end. When you think about it, Leach actually faced that situation, 4 straight years of the worst recruiting in school history, a beaten down and dispirited squad. Unless, you buy into the last myth, Wulff left the core of bowl team talent!
Frankly, I do believe that Wulff set the table for that bowl team...but as I said before, finishing 6-7 as the highlight of your coaching expertise is a pretty pathetic goal to be setting.
0-11, any idea who might be a good replacement if Chun decides to go back home to Ohio?
