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I'll look that up later.
What I can say is trials can and have looked great in the past because it's the pharmaceutical companies running their own trials. Numbers get botched, shit gets shuffled around and things get approved. It's happened before it'll happen again.
Yeah, I addressed adverse effects too, based on the numbers in the previous post. That was the 1.4 million, and the 99.94% who report no issues.
The picture didn’t include the number of doses delivered - which is a critical data point - it was mentioned generically in a later post. Even if you assume that all of the numbers in the picture are 100% accurate, they’re meaningless without knowing the number of doses and without confirming that the comparisons are over the same time span.
Her resignation was only a matter of time. As soon as shots were fired, there needed to be a sacrificial lamb, and she was the obvious choice…even though she probably had absolutely nothing to do with the staffing of Trump’s team.
I think she should have given a really simple and honest answer in the hearings. When asked why he had backups, rookies, and second tier staff on his detail, the answer should be clear: he’s not the president. He’s a secondary protectee. We put our best crews on the current president and VP and their families. Others get the agents who are working toward the varsity.
At one point I downloaded the VAERS data and looked at what other symptoms and conditions were reported alongside Covid vaccination. But like ke you say, people didn’t understand the data, or chose to make it what it wasn’t. They saw a number of heart attacks or strokes that were in people who had been vaxxed and assumed it was causative. There were also a number of broken ankles, broken arms, and gunshot wounds, but nobody reported that Covid vax causes weak ankles.
There were two monumental mistakes with the COVID vax. #1 was the over promise - which started under Trump and continued with Biden. The vax was going to end Covid. If you get vaxxed, you won’t get COVID, the virus will disappear. That was never going to happen. For starters, no vaccine is 100% effective. For another, Covid was a fast mutating virus, so the vaccination would need tweaking to have any effect at all. Fauci, CDC, and WHO should have known that and should not have perpetuated the idea that it would be the end of Covid. Their promise should have been that it’s like a flu shot - it reduces the chances of infection, and reduces the severity.
The second mistake was the vaccine mandates. Those may have made sense for some populations - primarily those with high rates of exposure like doctors, nurses, and first responders. Not for the entire population. There were people who refused just because they’d been told they had to get it. If they had made the vaccine available, given an accurate description of its effectiveness, and encouraged people to get it…they would have seen less resistance. Worksites could have still had their own mandates, but that would not have created the shitstorm that emerged from state and federal mandates.
Justin there was a company in Australia working with US bio tech whose last trial could not get past a "hiccup" While they didn't believe it was dangerous and a false positive, they could not get past the FDA . They cant manipulate the results.
So let me give you the answer that was given to me in April of 2020 before we had the media "narrative". My friend who develops cancer drugs told me in early days of covid that year two will cause more deaths than year one.
He told me the issue was the virus mutates . The original vaccine that came out and had good results against the original covid 19.
He warned me it would morph. The issue is not enough people got vaxxed in April, May and June to create herd immunity. So the window was pretty short. It went from 19 to Delta. That is the reason the effectiveness shown in the trials did not carry over to the actual vaccine . It was very effective in preventing serious and deadly affects of Delta .
Then Delta morphed into the next strain. That next strain if you looked at someone it was transmitted, Transmission was easy, but it lost that deadly nature of the virus. My friend also told me that would happen and with each rendition it typically becomes more and more docile.
The reason they believe it is safe cause it went through the same trials that a cancer drug would go through. They know the vaccine is out of the body in 25 days. The trials waited for 40 days to make sure and were extra careful. That is the data that was used by the FDA and went out to the media .
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I disagree slightly ... if people got to 80% and we had herd immunity they would never had mandated it. 95% of the people get the measles and polio vaccine and if Trump heavenly endorsed the vaccine we woukd have had herd before July 2021 hit.
Once we got past that seems like the horses were out of the barn
I think 20 years ago their strategy may have played out fine. The emergence of social media and you’ve got to completely change how you deal with something like this.
I don't know why you guys are beating on this dead horse. Despite the fact that COVID seems to be rearing its ugly head again, the pandemic is over. Mistakes were made along the way. Shitloads of people, mostly old and sick already, died. Plenty of healthy people died. I supported the vaccine mandates. They made sense to me at the time. In hindsight, maybe they weren't. I dunno, and don't care in 2024. Monday morning QB'ing every step and misstep is a waste of time and energy.
I got jabbed 5 times. The J&J, then two each of Pfizer and Moderna over the first what - 3 years? Wondering if I should get #6. My one bout with COVID was a 2-day case of the sniffles after 3 jabs. As I've posted, a non-jabbed healthy friend got it recently and was sicker than shit for 2 weeks. Coupla years ago a healthy 49-year-old industry non-vaxxed colleague got it and died. Damn glad I got my jabs.
So f-ing stop it. You are all allegedly intelligent, educated Cougs. Except for a couple of you who apparently are NOT Cougs but pollute this current shitshow of a board.
So get over it. Sincerely, the All-Knowing, All-Seeing, Benevolent and Forgiving Mighty Loyal One. Who is smarter than all of you, has an IQ that most of you can't count to, and is many other wonderful things. Especially to countless grateful women who I ruined for other men. A direct quote BTW.
Your anecdotal "evidence" of the Covid vax is not supported by what we know now. It might be your personal experience but not par for the course. I didn't know one person who died from Covid. I knew of one person who was hospitalized but he had serious underlying issues. He has since changed his life for the better, making his health a priority.I don't know why you guys are beating on this dead horse. Despite the fact that COVID seems to be rearing its ugly head again, the pandemic is over. Mistakes were made along the way. Shitloads of people, mostly old and sick already, died. Plenty of healthy people died. I supported the vaccine mandates. They made sense to me at the time. In hindsight, maybe they weren't. I dunno, and don't care in 2024. Monday morning QB'ing every step and misstep is a waste of time and energy.
I got jabbed 5 times. The J&J, then two each of Pfizer and Moderna over the first what - 3 years? Wondering if I should get #6. My one bout with COVID was a 2-day case of the sniffles after 3 jabs. As I've posted, a non-jabbed healthy friend got it recently and was sicker than shit for 2 weeks. Coupla years ago a healthy 49-year-old industry non-vaxxed colleague got it and died. Damn glad I got my jabs.
So f-ing stop it. You are all allegedly intelligent, educated Cougs. Except for a couple of you who apparently are NOT Cougs but pollute this current shitshow of a board.
So get over it. Sincerely, the All-Knowing, All-Seeing, Benevolent and Forgiving Mighty Loyal One. Who is smarter than all of you, has an IQ that most of you can't count to, and is many other wonderful things. Especially to countless grateful women who I ruined for other men. A direct quote BTW.
Here is the deal. This trial for Trump was a total setup, in so many ways. Paying an attorney for doing an NDA sure seems like it actually IS paying for legal services. Clinton did not do an NDA, but they DID enter the payments as legal services when they hired Perkins Coie and Fusion GPS to set up the Steele dossier.
So I see no reason to prosecute either one for those ledger entries, but you cannot let Clinton skate while prosecuting Trump. Same thing goes for classified documents-you either let everyone skate or prosecute everyone. Bill and Hillary both had classified materials, as did Pence and Biden. Not sure about Bush and Obama, but chances are pretty good that they had some also. So when everyone else ends up with no consequences, what with making up excuses (Comey making decisions outside his pay code for the FBI, Biden getting a pass because he is old and feeble). How can you justify the lawfare being used by Biden against Trump only and nobody else?
My evidence is not anecdotal, it is actual. Actual people, actual cases. Including me and my then GF who fared the same as me. How is that "not supported? And to the point, who F-ing cares at this point? If as a nation and world we learn from the pandemic, strive to make good decisions next time (whether the same or different I do not know), then good. Beating yet another horse into China is f-ing stupid. And WTF do you know? "I don't know anyone who died". That makes you an expert? Are you a medical professional? Medical researcher?
Wait, when was Clinton President? Oh, we are talking about Hillary now? She was President when? Oh, never.
"the lawfare used by Biden against Trump only". I did not realize that Biden personally directed the entire case(s) against Trump for activity from before either one was President. Must have been hard for him to do that since he is so old and feeble.
Trump is an absolute POS and a horrible human being in all ways. Why the F do you defend him? If you want to vote for that monster, go ahead. But spare us the silliness of painting him as a victim of some setup or conspiracy or anything else.
I remember hearing from 2 docs, Scott Atlas and Dr Bhattacharya (sp?), both od whom I think were at Stanford. They were saying basically the same thing as your friend, and what they were saying made sense to me. Viruses tend to mutate and change, each new mutation is both more contagious but less serious. So I was pretty skeptical about the virus going away if we all just stayed home for a couple weeks.
What I remember was that both were castigated for their opinions on the Covid virus because it did not go along with the "official Narrative. It appeared obvious that a lot of folks in the beaurocracy (like Fauci) and the media (social and mainstream) didn't want the narrative challenged. Plus, a lot of politicians wanted to enjoy some extra power by controlling where we could go, when we could go, etc. Power corrupts.
Well, you kind of stepped in it here. I never said Hillary was president, but Bill was. And the thing is, people that are/were president have more of an argument about being able to possess classified documents. There was actually a legal ruling that Bill was entitled to have some recordings, that were found in his sock drawer, IIRC. Bill and Don have an argument that they are entitled to have those materials, Hillary, Joe, and Mike do not.
Since I am a US citizen I am entitled to freedom of speech. I feel like using that right from time to time. Trump is no choir boy, but neither is Joe, both from a financial standpoint and a sexual assault standpoint. I will defend anyone I want and will rag on whoever I want. The thing about defending Trump with these legal issues is that the prosecutors are twisting around the charges to come up with some unique legal strategery that has never been used against anyone previously. When it is Biden/Garland's justice department involved in them, I find that very suspicious. Of course, all those folks with TDS are very eager to use whatever methods possible to attack The Donald.
Just worry about your own stuff. When you get moderator by your name I will listen. If I wanted a nanny I would get a hot one ....I don't know why you guys are beating on this dead horse. Despite the fact that COVID seems to be rearing its ugly head again, the pandemic is over. Mistakes were made along the way. Shitloads of people, mostly old and sick already, died. Plenty of healthy people died. I supported the vaccine mandates. They made sense to me at the time. In hindsight, maybe they weren't. I dunno, and don't care in 2024. Monday morning QB'ing every step and misstep is a waste of time and energy.
I got jabbed 5 times. The J&J, then two each of Pfizer and Moderna over the first what - 3 years? Wondering if I should get #6. My one bout with COVID was a 2-day case of the sniffles after 3 jabs. As I've posted, a non-jabbed healthy friend got it recently and was sicker than shit for 2 weeks. Coupla years ago a healthy 49-year-old industry non-vaxxed colleague got it and died. Damn glad I got my jabs.
So f-ing stop it. You are all allegedly intelligent, educated Cougs. Except for a couple of you who apparently are NOT Cougs but pollute this current shitshow of a board.
So get over it. Sincerely, the All-Knowing, All-Seeing, Benevolent and Forgiving Mighty Loyal One. Who is smarter than all of you, has an IQ that most of you can't count to, and is many other wonderful things. Especially to countless grateful women who I ruined for other men. A direct quote BTW.
Of course you do. Every case was being investigated before Trump announced he was running for President again.
And Trump is tbe only Prez convicted of fraud, found libel for sexual assault, found libel for defrauding the state of New York, and has three other cases
He was asked to give the documents back for 18 months . When the FBI raided his place he said they got everything. They had an attorney confirm they got everything .
Well Walt Nauta moved and moved boxes . If it was another judge who was experienced that would have already been adjudicated
The 50 year old police officer from Yakima who told our Govenor to F off on Tv as he resigned died two weeks later .
Stretch ... seriously ? He was reimbursed for hush money. Cohen went to jail for that exact crime . If he was paid for his services the attorney submits a bill. You dont get the CFO to get the amount of the line of credit balance, then work backwards to come up with the taxed amount and gross it up.
David Oecker for the Enquire already did one catch and kill story with McDougal and he also wrote fictitious stories about Cruz, Hillary, and anyone else who came up against Trump.
Here’s the deal. Either there’s a whole lot of coincidences adding up to someone ALMOST being a total shitbag of a human being OR you got conned and are continuing to get conned by a conman 🤔
He wasn't prosecuted for having the documents as much as he was for obstruction and refusing to give them back. Name anyone of those others that resisted giving them back and/or lied about giving them all back!
Exactly. Nobody really cared that he took the documents. It's that he refused to return them after months of requests. And for the idiots that insist that this was orchestrated by Biden....why would he allow himself to be investigated if he was behind it? Biden got busted for having documents too. How can that happen if he is a puppet master running everything?
Twenty years in the future, people are going to look back at what's happened in the last ten years or so and there will be a lot of studies on how human psychology and self interest led to a lot of bad politics and policies.
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I could go on...and on. But I'll summarize: you claimed the vaccine wasn't effective. Republicans received jabs at a lower rate and Democrats at a higher rate. Republicans died at a higher rate.
In light of this new evidence to you, does this change your previous belief about whether the vaccine was effective in preventing deaths or illness?
On a related note I submitted Covid-19 VAERS reports on Justin, Spain, DooberCoug, DGib, 5591, and 74 with the adverse event of Death resulting from catastrophic brain damage.
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That statistic means nothing. Democrats are a bunch of imported lettuce eating liberal pansies who fear red meat and bacon. Republicans are God Fearing Patriots that know that the delicious flavor of red meat and bacon, combined with their obligation to support America's ranchers, means that they have to eat those foods at high volumes....leading to obesity and heart failure....conditions that made them more vulnerable to COVID.
Republicans that died from COVID are freakin' heroes, you insensitive bastard!
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Getting two difference messages. Was it the vaccine or social distancing?
Also that doesn't take away the fact that the media you sheepishly follow said it was safe and effective and people died after taking it.
The data showed that it was safe and effective and the data you showed doesnt show deaths as a result of the jab. You understand that correct?
Peanuts, bees, latex gloves, and water are all safe…but they also kill people.
He doesn’t have the slightest inkling how VAERS works. A fine example of how a college education from WSU may have helped with critical thinking skills.
So when someone died during that time, hospitals weren't incentivized to notate on the death certificate that the deceased had Covid at the time the person passed? What do you believe to be true when it comes to how deaths were reported? You think hospitals were truthful in how they reported deaths?
Let me make this easier for you with yet another source:
"Researchers from Yale University who studied the pandemic's effects on those two states say that from the pandemic's start in March 2020 through December 2021, "excess mortality was significantly higher for Republican voters than Democratic voters after COVID-19 vaccines were available to all adults, but not before.
More specifically, the researchers say, their adjusted analysis found that "the excess death rate among Republican voters was 43% higher than the excess death rate among Democratic voters" after vaccine eligibility was opened.
The different rates "were concentrated in counties with lower vaccination rates, and primarily noted in voters residing in Ohio," according to the study that was published in the journal JAMA Internal Medicine on Monday"
This refers specifically to vaccines, taken or not taken. Now, does this new information to you change your belief and if not, why not?
"Researchers from Yale University who studied the pandemic's effects on those two states say that from the pandemic's start in March 2020 through December 2021, "excess mortality was significantly higher for Republican voters than Democratic voters after COVID-19 vaccines were available to all adults, but not before.
More specifically, the researchers say, their adjusted analysis found that "the excess death rate among Republican voters was 43% higher than the excess death rate among Democratic voters" after vaccine eligibility was opened.
The different rates "were concentrated in counties with lower vaccination rates, and primarily noted in voters residing in Ohio," according to the study that was published in the journal JAMA Internal Medicine on Monday"
This refers specifically to vaccines, taken or not taken. Now, does this new information to you change your belief and if not, why not?
VAERS is only as good as the people who make the inputs. If hospitals are incentivized to report deaths as Covid, then one has to think those inputs will be seriously skewed. But deductive reasoning from pompous asshats like yourself become you.
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Wait... did you just say Clinton made a payment and listed as a legal expense and compared that to Trumps paymentbto Cohen?
Did Clintons pull money off a credit like to keep people silent then reverse the net payment and come up with the gross amount.
Why didnt the adulterer Trump just pay the porn star himself ? You do get Cohen went to prison for this exact same thing ...
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That same logic could be applied to the article posted by Krusty. You understand that, correct?
Dumb Covid study
Life expectancy Rate
Do the Covid experts on this board see any sort of correlation between life expectancy rates and the supposed Covid death rate?
Life expectancy Rate
Do the Covid experts on this board see any sort of correlation between life expectancy rates and the supposed Covid death rate?
