If the 3 stooges had been doing security detail for 20 years would it really matter.
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Uber dude, Crime Scene investigator. Just asking questions. Joe Rogan would be proud.
I’m not dying on any hill have you read anything I’ve said? Dan Bongino is a nut job, I don’t care that he was SS. 2% rule, 2% of any walk of life are wackadoo.
One of the three stooges was president for 4 years and I can confirm…it most certainly doesn’t matter.
I get it. Every sniper and former SS security detail officer who is posting should not be believed cause Reasons.
Ignore what they say.
Can you find any former security detail snipers or SS detail experts posting analysis refuting any of them?
No?
What exactly is your level of experience and expertise for you to categorically dismiss their consistent claims views and analysis?
Something doesn’t smell right here.
We can agree with that, yes?
This whole exercise of yours is a fine example of the internet in all its glory - it’s like Uber Dude is seeking lady advice and every sad and lonely attention seeking incel loser out there is more then happy to dispense free advice on how to please a woman because they’ve masturbated. A lot. And boy, trust me, do they know what they’re talking about when it comes to the ladies.
Are you F’ing with me? Im the one non-MAGA here that’s said there’s certainly some oddities and anything’s possible. It doesn’t mean Im going down every rabbit hole with you though.
Uber - stop your conspiracy shit! You are embarrassing yourself and shaming every WSU Cougar out there.
The rest of us, Stop feeding the troll! Me included.
Look, at this point we really don't know what was going on with this kid. And maybe we never will. But it is possible that being registered as a Republican means nothing. If you will think back a few months, there were a lot of liberals/Democrats urging people to change their voter registration from Democrat to Republican in order to vote for Nikki Haley in the R primary in order to stop Trump. Obviously there was no need to vote in the Democrat primary since the powers that be in the non-authoritarian party had already anointed Biden as their guy. So you see, it IS possible that the kid was simply following the direction of a bunch of Demo leaders and influencers.
Why pathetic. Is it more or less pathetic than someone going after Mike Pence and Trump as Prez doesn't say anything other than "maybe he deserves it" and does not lift a finger for three hours then tells everyone to go home.
Or making fun of Paul Pelosi . Or going after after the parents of a Gold Star marine.
Or not being able to handle losing an election and saying it was rigged . And please don't equate Hillarys comments that there was external participation from a country that has 800 nukes pointed at us as the same as we internally rigged an election when judges who he appointed said there is no evidence.
Personally I am surprised those who can't bare the thought of a registered republican doing fhis not claim it happened because Crook was transitioning or that this happened because of immigration and the guy couldnt rent because housing is not affordable in Butler cause of immigration .
Rittenhouse did NOT commit manslaughter, and not because he was found not guilty in court.
Your absolutely right, that he was trying to play, be hero.
What happened:
1. First a business owner friend, asked Rittenhouse, and others to help protect the business from the RIOT. The RIOTERS were looting, burning, destroying, plundering, etc, everything, and the police, were either not in the city protecting businesses, not doing anything, an or not enough police, an not able to protect businesses, which is why the business owner asked Rittenhouse, others to help guard, watch over, protect, etc, his business.
You, others can debate whether he should have been there all you want, but your wrong.
What are people supposed to do? Just let RIOTERS, ARSONIST, LOOTERS, PLUNDERERS LOOT, BURN, DESTROY, PLUNDER, ETC, BUSINESSES, HOMES, ETC, JUST LIKE FERGUSON? JUST LET RIOTERS, ETC, ATTACK, BEAT UP, HURT, KILL PEOPLE, ETC, JUST LIKE FERGUSON, OTHER PLACES?
I'm a firm believer in law and order, and in letting law enforcement do their job, and in not taking the law into one's own hands, but if the police are either not able, or not willing to do their job, and if people are going to attack people, property, etc, then it's ok to help them.
Also did you know there are GOOD SAMARITAN SELF DEFENSE LAWS WHERE ITS LEGAL TO COME TO THE AID, DEFENSE, HELP GUARD, PROTECT PEOPLE, PROPERTY, ETC, FROM ROBBERS, THUGS, ETC?
One can question Rittenhouse's judgement, as I wouldn't have been there with a gun, because I would have been concerned, if I had been him, doing what he did, I would have been concerned about being attacked, hurt, etc.
That said it was LEGAL, albeit not smart, for him to be there helping to guard, protect the business, business owner, etc.
2. Altho he should have stayed put guarding, protecting the business, business owner, because he had good defensive ground, situation, with business owner, others, etc, it WAS LEGAL FOR HIM, Abeit not smart, to wander around with the gun FOR PROTECTION OF HIMSELF, OTHERS, helping, serving people, which was nice of him to do, Albeit NOT SMART, potentially put himself into harms's, way, even with the gun, as if he rushed, attacked by enough numbers, even his gun wouldn't save him.
3. When he did get attacked, if he hadn't been successful at DEFENDING himself from the attack, like it was LEGAL FOR HIM TO DO, he extremely easily would have been wounded, hurt, probably killed.
Rittenhouse HELPED, SERVED A LOT OF PEOPLE, which was NICE, LEGAL FOR HIM TO DO, AND IT WAS LEGAL FOR HIM TO HAVE A GUN, AND IT WAS LEGAL TO DEFEND HIMSELF WITH THAT GUN, AND IT WAS NICE, LEGAL FOR HIM TO DEFEND, GUARD, PROTECT THE BUSINESS, BUSINESS OWNER, HOMES, OTHERS, HIMSELF, ETC. IT WAS LEGAL FOR HIM TO BE A HERO, AND HE WAS A HERO.
That said, what he did wasn't smart, etc. But him probably not being smart, wise, etc, is NOT ILLEGAL.
AND THATS WHY HE RIGHTFULLY WAS NOT CONVICTED IN COURT. AND THE EVIDENCE PROVES, PROVED THAT HE LEGALLY WAS PROTECTING, GUARDING, DEFENDING BUSINESSES, BUSINESS OWNERS, HOMES, PEOPLE, HIMSELF, OTHERS, ETC.
Anybody that says he manslaughtered, murdered, etc, is a idiot, MORON, bone head, stupid, etc.
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Whatever IDIOT, MORON, BONEHEAD, YOUR JUST PROVING YOUR STUPIDITY.
BUT YOU CAN BE STUPID, ALL YOU WANT,
Mik. He was a kid, he wasn’t some trained security guard. There was zero reason for him to be there WITH an AR. If people who live there want to protect their property with force, have at it. He was in the middle of the street and he got scared and started shooting. He was put on trial…and lucky he wasn’t convicted.
Argue all you want whether he did anything “wrong”, he’s certainly no F’ing hero killing people who are unarmed in the street when he shouldn’t have been there to begin with.
Heres maybe a better way to think about it. How many business owners were there protecting their businesses or homes? Did any of them shoot anyone? How many cops were there? Did they shoot anyone?
So you’re telling me a kid who didn’t live there, wasn’t trained as an officer or security, wasn’t protecting his own property, knew better than everyone else that was there protecting their property or who had training to do so? If you’re telling me that there would have been 200 dead people and we’d be having a different conversation.
He was a scared little dipshit out of place and in way over his head and killed two unarmed civilians because of it. Period.
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Political buzzwords like "existential threat to our democracy"?
I see a lot more time being spend studying the poor souls infected with TDS. I can see Flat getting 5-6 chapters in the textbook.
Your right, that he was a kid, and probably shouldn't have been there wandering around with a gun, helping, serving, being nice, etc.
And the business owner, friends, others, etc, shouldn't have asked him to help protect, guard, defend the business.
And he should have stayed put at the business, where he had numbers, defensive ground.
And your right that he is not police, security, mercenary, etc.
That said IT WAS STILL LEGAL, albeit, not wise, smart to do what he did..
And he did NOT shoot a helpless, innocent, unarmed person.
That person, others tried to bum rush, attack Rittenhouse, and they had weapons, knives, guns, etc.
And the THUG, ROBBER, LOOTER, CRIMINAL, ETC, HAD ALREADY BEEN CONVICTED MANY TIMES OF ASSAULT, ILLEGALLY HAVING, USING GUNS, KNIVES, WEAPONS. AND THAT THUG RUSHED, ATTACKED, TRIED TO SHOOT, RITTENHOUSE, AND RITTENHOUSE RIGHTFULLY SHOT, KILLED THAT THUG IN SELF DEFENSE.
IF RITTENHOUSE HADNT DONE THAT, THAT THUG WOULD HAVE WOUNDED, HURT, PROBABLY KILLED RITTENHOUSE, AND THEN ATTACKED, HURT, WOUNDED, KILLED OTHERS, COMMITTED MORE ARSON, DESTROYED MORE BUSINESSES, HOMES, DESTROYED MORE LIVES, ETC, JUST LIKE HE HAD ALREADY BEEN CONVICTED OF.
Your right, that he was a kid, untrained, shouldn't have been there, with or without the gun, etc.
DESPITE THAT, IT WAS LEGAL FOR HIM TO BE THERE, DO WHAT HE DID, ETC.
IF YOU, OTHERS, DONT LIKE THAT, THEN CHANGE THE LAWS.
That said, he did NICELY, help, serve, protect, defend, a lot of people.
And he was STUPIDLY a HERO
STUPIDITY is NOT ALWAYS illegal.
And altho the kid WAS BEING STUPID, IT WAS NOT ILLEGAL.
AND THE EVIDENCE PROVED THAT.
AND THATS WHY HE DID NOT MURDER, MANSLAUGHTER ANYONE.
LEARN THE LAW.
UNTIL YOU LEARN THE LAW, YOU DO NOT KNOW WHAT YOUR TALKING ABOUT.
As usual, you are NOT reading correctly. I stated that Biden's policies of allowing a flood of immigrants to come into the country CONTRIBUTED to a shortage of housing, particularly lower income housing.
With a paper bag? The first guy threw a paper bad at him. The others thought he was an active shooter, probably because he was running around the street shooting and not actually protecting any property.
As for knowing the law…I’d say to you know the context. Nobody else was shot that night. There were a bunch of cops and security forces there along with people protecting their businesses and homes, I’d assume some with guns as well. Why wasn’t there a bunch of people shot and killed?
So you’re telling me KR happened to engage the three most deadly people there before any other trained officers, security folks, or property owners did, and eliminated the “threat”. Bullshit. He was a scared little dipshit who had no business being there with a deadly weapon. And he’s about as far from being a hero as one can be.
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You are so right! We really are fortunate that thousands of new humans that are not US citizens flooding into an area will have absolutely ZERO effect on the demand for housing. Local, city wide, county wide, state wide, nation wide-it matters not what size area you look at, a flood of people into an area most definitely creates demand for housing and will drive up prices. I am living that right now in north Idaho, although most of the flood here is not immigrants, but it for damn sure is driving up demand for housing and the associated prices.
You saying that is just as silly, stupid.
Going by that, then every Christian Cop, etc, that rightfully kills is guilty of that, if you twist, misinterpret that, and take that out of context.
Jesus clarified, and quoted not just one line of scripture, but all the commandments, CONTEXT.
THOU SHALT NOT COMMIT MURDER, provides the context.
What Jesus taught, is that believers should try to avoid killing, violence, hate, etc, but that after you sincerely try, it can be ok to defend, protect oneself, others.
He also taught that there are times when should not defend, protect, etc.
Like when a apostle cut off the ear, protecting, defending Jesus, Jesus healed the man, rebuked the apostle, because Jesus was sacrificing himself willingly, and Jesus knew that if his apostles did things like cut off the ear in DEFENSE, that it would have hurt the MINISTRY.
So whether it's ok to Defend or not, DEPENDS ON THE SITUATION.
YOUR BEING JUST AS BAD AS THE CRAZY FUNDAMENTALIST WHO WRONGLY BELIEVE IN TREATING EVERY BIBLICAL LETTER, WORD, AS INFALLIBLE, AND NOT USING CONTEXT, ETC, EXAMPLE THE CRAZY WESTBORO BAPTIST.
You want personally? Personally, I can't "bare" the thought of anyone doing this kind of thing. I can't bear the thought of all the gang shootings across the country. I can't bear the thought of ANY innocent person getting shot, especially shot and killed. So many people get wrapped up in something like this or a school shooting and desperately want to assign blame to someone or some cause that they aren't associated with. Meanwhile, those injured or killed are so easily forgotten.
Maybe some day down the road it will be clear why this deranged individual tried to assassinate a candidate for president. And maybe it won't. I hope we do find out and that the country can learn some lessons from this. Will it mean anything that he was registered as Republican? When did he register as an R? Had he done any activities to actually support the R's? Had he actually done any activities to support the D's? It has already been reported that he actually had donated money to that left wing cause in Chicago, is that any indication that he may have been one of the people that switched his registration from D to R in the effort to get Nikki Haley to beat Trump in the primary? Who knows at this point, and I am trying to withhold all judgements WRT this shooting until we know much more. I will make observations and ask questions about it all, but not assign blame yet. Clearly there was a terrible security breakdown of some kind, we just don't know all of the who, what, why, how, etc yet.
That said, I will post an observation I have regarding the reactions to the attempted assassination. I was extremely disappointed that President Biden refuses to accept any possible blame for the inflamed rhetoric in the country right now. He says we need to ratchet the rhetoric down, but how much better would it have been if he had said it would start with him and he would lead by example, and apologize for the times he had done it instead of continuing to attack Trump in a couple days.
I have stated before here that I try not to get too much into personal name calling attacks, and I really do try to avoid that. I sometimes fail at that, but will continue to try. I do make digs at what someone says though, often trying for humor. But I am going to warn everyone now that I am going to be a little extra crabby and on edge today as I am dealing with the preparation for my anal probe tomorrow. Okay, the proper term is colonoscopy, but we all know what it really entails, and I am really not enjoying it. Grrrrr!
Had mine in May. The prep is the worst part. The doc gave me Propofol, which is amazing. I took a nice little nap and woke up with no brain fog. Doc came in and had a conversation with me within 10-15 minutes, and I recall it all. No lingering effects for me. My wife had hers about 6 weeks later, and they used a fentanyl cocktail for her. She took quite a while to wake up and was pretty groggy and nauseous for a few hours, had no memory of leaving the clinic.
She also had trouble getting the drink down. I had exactly the same stuff - Gavilyte, I think. I mixed it with lemonade Crystal Light, and it wasn't completely awful. And it was highly effective - probably within about 15-20 minutes of drinking it, I was indisposed.
And, the best part was the doc told me I have "a very boring colon" and don't need to do this again for 10 years.
It's a pretty common misconception that shooters are lunatics and nutjobs who snap and start shooting. That's actually pretty rare. Most shooters are grievance collectors - they perceive things as slights and injustices toward them, and start adding them up. It's not necessarily things that most would perceive as a slight or an offense - their perception is just a little different. At some point, they accumulate these grievances and decide that their best course (or only course) is an attack. They hardly ever "snap." They decide, and often engage in very meticulous planning. Almost all of them leave footprints that can be seen in the aftermath as preparation, which means that almost all of them could have been detected before it happened. Assassins are a smaller subset of shooters, who don't necessarily follow the same general trends, but Oswald (Kennedy), Hinkley (Reagan), and Chapman (Lennon) all "leaked" ahead of their attacks. They were oddballs, so nobody was paying attention to them...but if they had been, someone could have detected them.
From what I've read, it sounds like this guy hasn't left many breadcrumbs - so far there's no reports of any significant research or preparatory activity. Also doesn't sound like he was so outside of "normal" that he would have been written off. Seems like nobody was paying much attention to him - including his parents - which might just end up being a significant motivator for him. This certainly would have gotten him attention.
RITTENHOUSE was NOT RUNNING AROUND SHOOTING HIS GUN.
He was, and did actually serve help people, defended, protected people.
And yes some rioters, thugs, etc, probably thought he was going to illegally use the gun.
The witnesses, and evidence shows, proves that
1. It was a convicted thug, who assaults, uses weapons, knives, guns, illegally. The thug was a robber, thug.
2. That the THUG bum rushed at Rittenhouse with a weapon, knife, gun, etc.
3. If Rittenhouse had not shot, killed the THUG, THE THUG WOULD HAVE HURT, WOUNDED, PROBABLY KILLED RITTENHOUSE, with the Knife, or gun, a weapon, etc.
IF THE THUG DID NOT WANT TO BE SHOT, KILLED, HE SHOULD NOT HAVE ATTACKED RITTENHOUSE WITH A GUN, KNIFE, WEAPON, ETC.
I KNOW THE LAW. I HAVE EXPLAINED THE LAW. I KNOW THE EVIDENCE. I WATCHED MOST TO ALMOST ALL OF THE WHOLE TRIAL, ETC.
YOU ARE BUYING INTO THE LIBTARD PROPAGANDA MEDIA SPIN.
You can say all you want that Rittenhouse was stupid, a kid, untrained, shouldnt have been there, etc, and YOUR RIGHT ABOUT THAT.
But the law, evidence, is what I said it is, and he did not do anything illegal.
If you don't like the law, change it, if you can, if you want
If you want to silly like buy into the Libtard media propaganda spinning machine, instead of listening to the judge, the law, the jury, the actual evidence, the trial, etc, then go ahead and be silly.
The judge explained the law, evidence. The evidence, law, was so slam dunk in favor of Rittenhouse, that that's why the trial went relatively quickly, easily for Rittenhouse, and why Rittenhouse did NOT manslaughter, murder anyone.
You guzzling that gallon of flush out liquid? I lost 5 pounds last time I had mine.
Biden did say that he shouldn't have made the bullseye remark, which any fool knows wasn't a literal comment. Trump's "bloodbath if I don't win" and a zillion other incendiary remarks dwarf anything Biden ever says. You are way off on this one.
You know that the jokes in response to this write themselves, don't you? It's so easy I don't really even want to try.
Wait .. are these illegals being given housing without w2 or tax return income and without credit ?
I can tell you immigration ... other than Canadians have had zero impact on the Seattle housing market.
Mik, just shut up for once. Everything out of your mouth is such BS. The first victim, as described in the link below, was a troubled guy but not what you describe. He attacked Rittenhouse with a gun, knife, etc? No, video shows otherwise:
"Rosenbaum, meanwhile, was unarmed and carried a plastic bag containing a toothbrush, toothpaste, socks, deodorant and some papers."
Rosenbaum threw the bag at Rittenhouse, who then shot him 4 times. Victim #2? Hit Rittenhouse with a skateboard. Victim 3 did have a pistol.
Did you miss these minor details while you watched "almost all" of the trial?
Finally, none of this a Goddam thing to do with the 2024 Presidential election. Go start your own thread.
None of what you wrote about the Rittenhouse case has basis in actual fact.
He was there protecting a family member's business.
He was assaulted and then pursued by a mob yelling "get him" before he ever fired a shot. He was on his back being assaulted when he fired his first shot. This is after he was running away from the mob trying to escape them - still never having fired a shot.
None of this is hearsay. Its on the record at trial from both sides.
Personally I don't think he belonged there, but your statements are factually incorrect.
The business owner in question was not a family member and denies that he asked for protection. Link below.
Kenosha car dealer denies he asked gunmen to protect his business
The co-owner of Car Source said Thursday he didn't hire the men, ask for their help or endorse it.
www.jsonline.com
