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Unfinished Business: Ward returns for SR season

He needs a QB coach. Not good enough to be accountable in press conferences but never make changes in game.
 
This morning Huard said he was told by "someone in the know" that Ward has 10 seven figure offers.
 
… would be a headline that sparks a few feelings around here, I imagine.
Huard was saying Cam has 10 offers already, all over 1 mil to play his last season .

If you listen to his last interview post game he is telling you he is fine with his language .
 
This morning Huard said he was told by "someone in the know" that Ward has 10 seven figure offers.
He should take one of them. He won't get a 7 figure offer from WSU.

And if he does, that $1 Million that could have been spread over 50+ who actually embody the 'student' part of student-athlete.

Trying to play the mercenary game isn't going to end well for WSU. Instead, the powers that be should be spending their time advocating for reform to the current system.

Revenue sharing, pooled allocation of NIL funds across all student athletes, CAPEX and salary caps. All way better than tossing money down a rat hole on marginal pro prospects.
 
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He should take one of them. He won't get a 7 figure offer from WSU.

And if he does, that $1 Million that could have been spread over 50+ who actually embody the 'student' part of student-athlete.

Trying to play the mercenary game isn't going to end well for WSU. Instead, the powers that be should be spending their time advocating for reform to the current system.

Revenue sharing, pooled allocation of NIL funds across all student athletes, CAPEX and salary caps. All way better than tossing money down a rat hole on marginal pro prospects.
Hard to argue against taking a $1 million offer at age 22(?). Pay the taxes, put half a million into the market. Set for life if you live within your means for ten years.
 
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He should take one of them. He won't get a 7 figure offer from WSU.

And if he does, that $1 Million that could have been spread over 50+ who actually embody the 'student' part of student-athlete.

Trying to play the mercenary game isn't going to end well for WSU. Instead, the powers that be should be spending their time advocating for reform to the current system.

Revenue sharing, pooled allocation of NIL funds across all student athletes, CAPEX and salary caps. All way better than tossing money down a rat hole on marginal pro prospects.You
You read my email 😜 . Pac 2 has a chance to be transformative. They can institute sanity. They can cap NIL. Each player gets 2 k a month . Freshman cannot sign larger deals . They don’t have an imagine name or likeness yet.

Cap the amount each school can spend on NIL, and out of NIL comes 2k per kid. Maybe 10 mil for each program .

Two , each school can “tag” two players per year that if the players leaves and gets an NIL deal the school gets compensated out of their NIL collective .

Three, have the league have a compliance department that monitors the NIL. The NIL has to be brought into the conference and schools. Can’t have the AAUization of recruitment behind the scenes .

With the portal, open it up from 9-1 to 11-5. Everyone can transfer without sitting a year . Two players get tagged during the year and if say Cam ward gets a mil our NIL collective gets a mil.

After 11-5 have to sit a year unless the coach gets fired or leaves . They can then transfer without penalty .

If a player wants to leave after 11-5 they have to sit a year . but they can petition the school to leave without penalty . The schools can arrange a buyout . Money goes into the collective . Again, Cam decides to leave on 12/1, and he has to sit a year . He can petition the school. They agree to release him for 200k .

Salary cap and length cap on head coaches . Max three contracts , max amount 5 mil. They can make more money after the 5 mil. Say OSU wanted to pay smith 1omil a rear . They can . but the 5 mil difference goes into the conference NIL split among conference members and that money comes out of the OSU NIL.
 
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You read my email 😜 . Pac 2 has a chance to be transformative. They can institute sanity. They can cap NIL. Each player gets 2 k a month . Freshman cannot sign larger deals . They don’t have an imagine name or likeness yet.

Cap the amount each school can spend on NIL, and out of NIL comes 2k per kid. Maybe 10 mil for each program .

Two , each school can “tag” two players per year that if the players leaves and gets an NIL deal the school gets compensated out of their NIL collective .

Three, have the league have a compliance department that monitors the NIL. The NIL has to be brought into the conference and schools. Can’t have the AAUization of recruitment behind the scenes .

With the portal, open it up from 9-1 to 11-5. Everyone can transfer without sitting a year . Two players get tagged during the year and if say Cam ward gets a mil our NIL collective gets a mil.

After 11-5 have to sit a year unless the coach gets fired or leaves . They can then transfer without penalty .

If a player wants to leave after 11-5 they have to sit a year . but they can petition the school to leave without penalty . The schools can arrange a buyout . Money goes into the collective . Again, Cam decides to leave on 12/1, and he has to sit a year . He can petition the school. They agree to release him for 200k .

Salary cap and length cap on head coaches . Max three contracts , max amount 5 mil. They can make more money after the 5 mil. Say OSU wanted to pay smith 1omil a rear . They can . but the 5 mil difference goes into the conference NIL split among conference members and that money comes out of the OSU NIL.
What would any of this do other than tie one hand (or both hands) behind our back? Should we only award scholarships based on academics like the Ivy League too?
 
He should take one of them. He won't get a 7 figure offer from WSU.

And if he does, that $1 Million that could have been spread over 50+ who actually embody the 'student' part of student-athlete.

Trying to play the mercenary game isn't going to end well for WSU. Instead, the powers that be should be spending their time advocating for reform to the current system.

Revenue sharing, pooled allocation of NIL funds across all student athletes, CAPEX and salary caps. All way better than tossing money down a rat hole on marginal pro prospects.
I'm guessing you didn't read the article I posted earlier this week.

Pretty much all of that is being planned and discussed by the B10 and SEC for when they form a mega-conference and take ALL of the money (TV, NCAA, etc) for themselves and everyone else can figure out their own, peasant football conference.

So arguably there won't be NIL and xfer portal bullshit in the college welfare conferences because there won't be any money to be had. And my guess is they'll restructure it so that the welfare schools can't do NIL so the NFL-lite will never have to worry about any sort of competition.
 
Hard to argue against taking a $1 million offer at age 22(?). Pay the taxes, put half a million into the market. Set for life if you live within your means for ten years.
Cam seems level headed enough to do that. Most kids aren’t.
 
This morning Huard said he was told by "someone in the know" that Ward has 10 seven figure offers.
He may have had those offers in late September/early October, when we were 4-0 and he was 7-8 on some of the Heisman projections. After finishing 1-7, not looking good doing it, and disappearing from Heisman lists...I doubt he has anything that promising.
 
Gotta agree....unless everyone is doing it, establishing a bunch of restrictions only hurts us.
Hurts us how ? We already have both hands tied behind our back, the coffin lid is closed and they are shoveling the dirt.

The new Pac 8 will be a feeder program . A minor league system . If those are the guides how are at a disadvantage ?
 
He may have had those offers in late September/early October, when we were 4-0 and he was 7-8 on some of the Heisman projections. After finishing 1-7, not looking good doing it, and disappearing from Heisman lists...I doubt he has anything that promising.
We'll know in two weeks.

I thought you'd be excited about the prospect of his departure. You seem hard to please.
 
Hurts us how ? We already have both hands tied behind our back, the coffin lid is closed and they are shoveling the dirt.

The new Pac 8 will be a feeder program . A minor league system . If those are the guides how are at a disadvantage ?
What are the AAC, Conference USA, MAC and Sun Belt doing in your scenario?
 
What are the AAC, Conference USA, MAC and Sun Belt doing in your scenario?
Who cares . The NCAA will see how the model works and institute it nationally . Why do we care what the ACC is doing ? Same rules for our conference for every member. Sure seems like geb models works in the NFL .
 
We'll know in two weeks.

I thought you'd be excited about the prospect of his departure. You seem hard to please.
I'll be just fine if he leaves (and so will WSU). I just don't expect anyone's offering him big money to do it.

I think it was end of last year that I said this, after this season I'm even more convinced it's true. He's found his ceiling. He was a good FCS QB. He's a roughly average FBS QB. He's not an NFL QB. He may get a season or two on a practice squad, running prep and throwing routes for the actual players. No pro team is going to rely on him in any situation where he has to make decisions. We saw why on Saturday. Again.
 
Who cares . The NCAA will see how the model works and institute it nationally . Why do we care what the ACC is doing ? Same rules for our conference for every member. Sure seems like geb models works in the NFL .
Nothing in your post makes sense. The NCAA is a member institution. That means the NCAA members decide what the NCAA does and doesn't do. The NCAA doesn't have some kind of dictatorial power. Why would members of the NCAA that are in the SEC, B1G, Big XII and ACC agree to this?

And the reason it matters what the AAC, Conference USA, MAC and Sun Belt are doing is because that's who the Pac-2 will be competing with for recruits, bowl berths, any playoff berth, etc.
 
Who cares . The NCAA will see how the model works and institute it nationally . Why do we care what the ACC is doing ? Same rules for our conference for every member. Sure seems like geb models works in the NFL .
What is a "geb model"?
 
He may have had those offers in late September/early October, when we were 4-0 and he was 7-8 on some of the Heisman projections. After finishing 1-7, not looking good doing it, and disappearing from Heisman lists...I doubt he has anything that promising.
I think there’s a lot of BS with these NIL offers including some bluffing by prospects to try to get more out of their suitors. That being said, Cam will be in hot demand and you’ll be shocked at how much smarter and better he gets behind a good offensive line.
 
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I think there’s a lot of BS with these NIL offers including some bluffing by prospects to try to get more out of their suitors. That being said, Cam will be in hot demand and you’ll be shocked at how much smarter and better he gets behind a good offensive line.
I agree. Especially since there's really no visibility into NIL, kids can say whatever they want.

Cam has one season left. It would take a big leap of faith for any program to put real money behind him based on what he's shown so far.
 
I think there’s a lot of BS with these NIL offers including some bluffing by prospects to try to get more out of their suitors. That being said, Cam will be in hot demand and you’ll be shocked at how much smarter and better he gets behind a good offensive line.

Not me
 
I think there’s a lot of BS with these NIL offers including some bluffing by prospects to try to get more out of their suitors. That being said, Cam will be in hot demand and you’ll be shocked at how much smarter and better he gets behind a good offensive line.
This is fair. I think what’s more intriguing and goes hand in hand with what you’re saying is Cam with a competent running game. The entire offense was on his shoulders for the most part and that usually doesn’t end well. He had happy feet and an itchy trigger finger because of the far too frequent jailbreaks coming at him through his leaky line. He was protected fairly well during the early win streak. UCLA seemed to take him completely off track. If he had a game like that for say…an SEC team would he be back to bad habits? I think part of it is his personnel and part of it is he reverted back to freestyling when things got a little tough.
 
I agree. Especially since there's really no visibility into NIL, kids can say whatever they want.

Cam has one season left. It would take a big leap of faith for any program to put real money behind him based on what he's shown so far.
He’s not coming back to WSU, and he will be in high demand!!
 
He’s either going to a top program, or the NFL. Sounds like he may be leaning NFL initially. Not the wisest choice in my opinion, but I’m not Cam.
 
He should take one of them. He won't get a 7 figure offer from WSU.

And if he does, that $1 Million that could have been spread over 50+ who actually embody the 'student' part of student-athlete.

Trying to play the mercenary game isn't going to end well for WSU. Instead, the powers that be should be spending their time advocating for reform to the current system.

Revenue sharing, pooled allocation of NIL funds across all student athletes, CAPEX and salary caps. All way better than tossing money down a rat hole on marginal pro prospects.

So "all student athletes" get the same piece of the pie whether or not their sports generate a lot of revenue, little revenue or no revenue.

Never know where you'll find a socialist these days 😊
 
This morning Huard said he was told by "someone in the know" that Ward has 10 seven figure offers.

Someone in the know = Jake Dickert

Huard talked to CJD last week to get ready for the Apple Cup broadcast.

Coach had made it clear for a while that schools are brazenly tampering with WSU's players. He certainly wouldn't have a problem sharing those details off the record with someone in the media.
 
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7 pages of comments on “Cam Ward to Washington” over at the Husky fan site.

Most seem to want their collective to shell out the cash for him.

I just hope Cougs can hang onto Mateer at this point
 
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Cam looked better than their Heisman candidate QB during the Apple Cup, so I can see why the UW would want him. If he elects to stay in college, there will be better options available to him. I heard Oregon wants him as well, better line and better running game there. And I would imagine there are SEC schools that will take a run at him as well. He could do quite well with a line that protected him and with a running game. One negative thing that did surprise about Cam, was his handoffs and play action fakes. Considering he was a triple option QB in HS, clean hand offs to the RBs were inconsistent, and he didn't always seem to carry out fakes very well. Might just be coaching, but something he really needs to work on before he gets to the next level, if that is an option. Also his fumbling is a concern, a lot of that was due to the constant pressure and trying to make something out of nothing.
 
He should take one of them. He won't get a 7 figure offer from WSU.

And if he does, that $1 Million that could have been spread over 50+ who actually embody the 'student' part of student-athlete.

Trying to play the mercenary game isn't going to end well for WSU. Instead, the powers that be should be spending their time advocating for reform to the current system.

Revenue sharing, pooled allocation of NIL funds across all student athletes, CAPEX and salary caps. All way better than tossing money down a rat hole on marginal pro prospects.
If we pay him to keep him then we’re dumb. He’s not worth keeping. Sorry some things are not good business. You have to learn to walk away from bad deals.
 
Cam looked better than their Heisman candidate QB during the Apple Cup, so I can see why the UW would want him. If he elects to stay in college, there will be better options available to him. I heard Oregon wants him as well, better line and better running game there. And I would imagine there are SEC schools that will take a run at him as well. He could do quite well with a line that protected him and with a running game. One negative thing that did surprise about Cam, was his handoffs and play action fakes. Considering he was a triple option QB in HS, clean hand offs to the RBs were inconsistent, and he didn't always seem to carry out fakes very well. Might just be coaching, but something he really needs to work on before he gets to the next level, if that is an option. Also his fumbling is a concern, a lot of that was due to the constant pressure and trying to make something out of nothing.
His play action hand offs look like... (gasp!!) he can't read a defense. I don't even know why he holds so long on those option plays because he never keeps, and it seems like every time he holds so long any hole that was there for the RB is gone by the time he lets go.

I think if I were to be critical of Cam my biggest thing is that there appears to be very little improvement in the areas that would take him from being a good to excellent quarterback. Not sure if coaching or ability, but if the rumors of NIL riches are true people seem to think its coaching.
 
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