If Leach goes 3-9 will you put down your Geronimo book and change your handle?
What exactly has Leach done to deserve all your support?
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Wtf are you talking about? No one is giving Leach a free pass. I live in PDX and have had season tix during the entire Leach era. I donate four figs to the CAF. Don't tell me you're sick of juice boxes and participation medals. If you're done that means you turn off your 32 inch Sharp you bought at Wal Mart Kansas. The rest of us have real skin in the game.
Notice Sponge didn't answer? So basically, he doesn't like the Air Raid (he's been open about this), so he'll always be unhappy about the WAY the game is played. I'd wager even if we were a 7 or 8 win program, he'll find a reason the Air Raid didn't get that 9th.
I'll place this into my "context" folder in my head… whenever I read Sponge and we have CML, I know it doesn't really matter. He won't like it, regardless.
I don't hold that against anyone on these boards. Most people throw out six or seven points, and whoever responds picks the point they can most easily destroy, like Ed not knowing that 3 of 4 is 75%, and ignore the rest of what was said.
I mean, people could just avoid saying dumb things, but some people have a compulsion, I guess.
What didn't I answer? If I missed a question posted to me, I'm happy to answer it.
I like versions of the Air Raid. I don't like the way Leach runs it because I don't think you can win throwing the ball as much as he likes to...in today's game.
I simply think we need to run the ball 10-12 or even 15 times more per game. Just a few tweaks.
Price is known offensively for qb's, but in his good yrs(at least in the 90's), he always had a 1,000 yd back except for Maybe 2nd and Madu in 94.
And I don't think we will ever go 7 or 8 wins unless we run the ball more, so therein lies the rub. If we do, I'll take it.
And most outside this board think we need to run the ball more so the people on here who think our run-pass ratio is OK is in the minority.
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He asked if you'd be quiet if 2015 was a winning season. You didn't answer. I thought it a clever omission.
I don't know that anyone has really argued the running ratio needing to go up a bit. I guess I'd need to look into that… If I really wanted to. It seems to me, it's the underlying stuff that everyone gets hung up on. Is it the O-line, is it the QB calling, is it the RB's being small or young, or, or, or. Some look at those as reasons, others look at those as excuses. I know where you stand, hence I have "context".
PEDs. Horrible strength and conditioning program. Whining. Lack of accountability. Poor work ethic. I'm sure others can add more.
Does that mean we won't be seeing anymore posts from you about it? Or posts about spraying kids with fire hoses in sub-freezing temperatures?
Of course, Leach's call to take a chip shot FG was for the win, Wulff's was for the tie.
In the Cal situation, you kick the FG 100 times out of 100. In the Utah game, it's debatable.
And I didn't rail on Wulff for that call at the time either. It didn't work out, but then again, it was Wulff, so it probably wouldn't have worked out either way.
You're wrong about Wulff's winning percentage improving every year. Again, Wulff proved he was not a coach that deserved patience. His recruiting was going down the drain. He was offering guys that ended up going to Idaho and New Mexico, and couldn't even pull Joe Dahl away from Montana.
Keep moving the goal posts around. None of those linemen were All Pac 10. And I thought you were comparing Wulff's OL recruiting to Doba's defensive recruiting?
FWIW, I'd take Kenny Alfred over any lineman Wulff brought in during his tenure.
I've mentioned that we should run more too, we just seem to differ on tactics-
I'd want us to run better on 3rd and 1.
You want us to run more on 2nd and 11.
I'd want us to run better on 3rd and 1.
You want us to run more on 2nd and 11.
But if the refs didn't conspire against us and the ball bounced our way a few more times, you'd be at least at level 2 thinker.
Couldn't resist.
Not that I like defending UW, but labeling them as a "defense that gave up north of 50 to Eastern" is a little disingenuous. They were also the 4th best D in the conference, and 47th nationally.
And since for some people, the be all and end all is where you got drafted, they had the best defense in the country by that measure.
If we go 8-4 next yr and I'm still bitching, you and the others in my ear can drink on my tab at My Office.
Of course we have always wanted to run better on 3rd and 1...but even Price had a hard time in those situations.
And I would wager that we had more 2nd and longs due to getting sacked on 1st down than a loss on a running play.
We've had more nice runs than people here think. Not to be confused to be Barry Sanders or Oregon, but enough to keep them off balance a bit
And if Leach goes 9-3 will you put down the bottle and stop your incessant whining? GTFU
That's almost as funny as your we would have won 7 or 8 games if only we had gotten a few JC's...you know since JC'S always work out
Where was this patience back in the day? Not sure what has been said that is so offensive?
Congrats Milf....did you have season tickets and the same level of support before hand?
Who said it was the be all end all. Just means they evaluated players who had a ceiling high enough to get drafted.
I am sure you would take Alfred over any lineman in the Wulff years. He was a very good lineman. Plant the pole and tell me what you want to compare.
WEll lets talk about the HAwaii game. What was the final score? It actually would have been a game if a lineman didn't "angle" down Chima. They had five turnovers, it was a crappy game. And the y played much better against USC. You can't see a difference?
I was borderline mad? How would ever know what is in my head. Mad is the last emotion I would have. You ever heard what happens when you assume? Never met Wulff. Met Doba, Price, the current staff. Met Walden. What was your point, who are the sacred cows?
I just assumed that someone alienated by a lack of recognition for the almighty 1-11 Wulff put up in year two is probably mad under at least one of the accepted definitions.
I'm 33. I wasn't giving up the golden years of my mid-late 20s traveling to watch a Paul Wulff coached football team.
So Gauta and Sagote had nothing to do with wins over Utah, USC, and Arizona in 2013, and a tight game on the road v. Auburn, which played for the national title? Even your brother would likely admit they played a significant role in transforming 3-9 to 6-6. The dear departed Breske made some bad assumptions that he didn't need another infusion of JC talent. He got fired, and I bet he isn't laughing, and neither should you.
Cheers.
Why do you use terms like great or almighty or any other adjective when you talk about wulff? I don't make such wild assertions about sub .400 mike leach. I respect your belief he will get it done. And if he doesn't and goes 4-8 this year, does it do any good to make such sarcastic statements. He could go 4-8 and there are aspects where I think he has done very well. And because he doesn't have the record it doesn't mean that he isn't a good coach. Similar to Breske. Do I have an a true opinion on him? Nope. HE could be a very good DB coach for example, just didn't have the right personnel. Tons of reasons for some of the lack of success in Pullman.
What was the final score? You turn the ball over that much of course you will be down 35-0. Did they give up? Did they rollover? How many did Hawaii score? 38?
"Milf"? You really shouldn't litter the board with your preferences. Your Wulffian whines are bad enough. But good luck with your anti-sarcasm campaign.
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What am I talking about? What are you talking about? We've got a five page thread filled up by people jacking their jaws without actually reading anything. You personally have responded to almost every one of my posts and called me an idiot when all I've been saying is that the time for blindly supporting Leach is over. It's time to start winning games. I said that if we don't get to a bowl game by the end of next year, all of the goodwill would be gone. You start blathering on about me not knowing anything and now you say that you aren't giving him a free pass? You're an idiot.
As for the 32" Sharp that I bought at Wal-mart. First, at least I don't live in Portland. You can have your moldy armpit of a town. I still remember driving by the Mercedes dealership and realized that the the hookers and dealers were hanging out a block away. Second, 32" TV from Walmart? Really? Is that all you've got? The 65" Samsung (not from Walmart) that I watch Coug games on is actually not too bad. Finally, I donate to the CAF every year but I don't donate four figures because I'm not an insecure dick whose self-image is based on college athletics. While you're busy pissing away that much money on football, I'm working on being a millionaire and making sure that my kids have money saved for a quality education. It's called perspective and you need to get some. It's DB's like you that ruin this board. Any fool who has "fing" in his name has already told the world what kind of person he is. An f'ing tool.
To be fair Flat, every Cougar board in existence calls you an idiot.
Good to hear you are saving and investing for retirement and college. Too many American idiots live beyond their means.
Cougar football is a passion hobby, however, it doesn't define my existence or affect my mood. College football is about camaraderie and bringing people together.
I've always felt the "me and my internet friends who I never met all think yer an idiot" is a classic method to instill camaraderie and bring people together.
Yes. That's how the score got to 35-0 with 10 minutes to go in the second quarter.
