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Pac-12, Mountain West ‘too far apart’ as negotiations over 2025 scheduling partnership break down

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Cal has one open date in 2025 and they already have the Beavers on the Schedule, Stanford has 2 open dates in 2025. I am sure both teams would love to find a West Coast opponent for obvious reasons. The pac 12 is scheduled to get about 105 million this year and 105 Million in 2025, in order to get the money in 2025 the pac 12 (2) still has to exist. Due to all the realignment, many teams have an open date, not easy to match the dates, but I would like to think the WSU staff is working on it. The MWC has been very protective of their conference, and for the amount of money we are spending to play in their league this year, 15 million, that money could be used next year to lure other teams to Pullman, and Corvallis. Not sure the ACC will fall apart, at this point after 2 losses in which they were favored, FSU may not find a home if they find a way out. There is a lot of uncertainty, and it's not a great position for WSU to be in, to say the least, and having 15,000, maybe, show up for your opener wasn't great, and I doubt the TV ratings were much better. I'd like to think the Texas Tech game will draw fans and viewers; both are critical this year to the future of the program. Not playing with the MWC next year can be overcome by plugging in 3-4 power 4 teams. Virgina, UW, and OSU are on the schedule, plug in Cal or Stanford, a couple of big 12 teams and you have a decent schedule. The AD had mentioned they had talks with the ACC and Big 12, most thought it was about joining their league, it probably has more to do with scheduling at this point.
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Pac-12, Mountain West ‘too far apart’ as negotiations over 2025 scheduling partnership break down

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Don't forget that WSU Baseball and Women's Swim team are affiliate members of the MWC as of last April. As some of you are suggesting you can get something better then go for it. I don't think the MWC is forcing anyone to do something they don't want to do. As affiliate members you can compete for conference championships as well as national championships. A lot better deal than you are getting with the WCC.
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Pac-12, Mountain West ‘too far apart’ as negotiations over 2025 scheduling partnership break down

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Flatlandcoug said:
I read an article that suggested that Oregon State already has enough games lined up for next year that including the MWC was going to take an effort on their part. The same article hinted that there are talks for Cal & Stanford to play both WSU & OSU. We already have six games shown on next years schedule according to fbschedules.com. If we get those two, we only have to get four more games. Furthering on, the article is suggesting that we might land a couple Big 12 teams too.

8/30: Idaho
9/6: SDSU
9/13: @ North Texas
9/27: @ Virginia
TBD: UW
TBD: OSU

We have a lot of people in panic mode but our 2024 deal with the MWC was a sh!t deal that we took just to get this season in place and there was no reason to repeat it if we feel like we can get something better.
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Hey Mik I mean Flat - how about you link this article for us?

That said, I love this fbsschedules.com site. I see that Cal already has Oregon State in 2025, and one open slot. Stanford has 2 open slots. Of course, it goes without saying that they are the 2 worst attended and watched of the traitorous 10.

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2025 California Football Schedule | FBSchedules.com

View the 2025 California Football Schedule at FBSchedules.com. The Cal Golden Bears football schedule includes opponents, date, time, and TV.
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Florida State......

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Recruiting evaluations are not always accurate. Player development is important.

FSU recruits many Rival 5/4 Star players. Pitt recruits mostly Rival 3-Star players.

In the last 4 years FSU has had 16 players drafted by the NFL (7 Rounds).

In the last 4 years Pitt has had 17 players drafted by the NFL (7 Rounds). It would have been 18 if Pitt could have counted WR Jordan Addison.

Addison won the Bilitnikoff Award at Pitt before transferring to USC.

HAIL TO PITT!!!!
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Pac-12, Mountain West ‘too far apart’ as negotiations over 2025 scheduling partnership break down

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95coug said:
This could be a problem for us in 2025…it’s going to be tough to get teams to come to Pullman P4/5 teams have never wanted to anyway, and with our conference status up in the air making home-and-home deals is potentially difficult. Might be looking at being road warriors.
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I read an article that suggested that Oregon State already has enough games lined up for next year that including the MWC was going to take an effort on their part. The same article hinted that there are talks for Cal & Stanford to play both WSU & OSU. We already have six games shown on next years schedule according to fbschedules.com. If we get those two, we only have to get four more games. Furthering on, the article is suggesting that we might land a couple Big 12 teams too.

8/30: Idaho
9/6: SDSU
9/13: @ North Texas
9/27: @ Virginia
TBD: UW
TBD: OSU

We have a lot of people in panic mode but our 2024 deal with the MWC was a sh!t deal that we took just to get this season in place and there was no reason to repeat it if we feel like we can get something better.
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95coug said:
This could be a problem for us in 2025…it’s going to be tough to get teams to come to Pullman P4/5 teams have never wanted to anyway, and with our conference status up in the air making home-and-home deals is potentially difficult. Might be looking at being road warriors.
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The non con schedules are made years in advance. If conference are adding a league game on top of their non con skeds…. WSU and OSU could struggle to find games. Being dealt in to the Mtn West was a stroke of luck for 2024. Looks like now the Mtn West is willing to pull the rug out.

ADs better get on the phone and literally call everyone. If it means signing some deals you wouldn’t normally sign… well…. shit.

Also, if the Mtn West is so willing to let you go without any games in 2025…. I wouldnt give 2 damn shits about raiding their league for teams when their deals expire. Fck us? Oh no. Fck you.
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Coug90 said:
Oof! QB is the kid who transferred from OSU too!
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Maybe Boston College will go either 12-0, 11-1, 11-2, 10-2, 10-3, 9-3, 9-4, etc, but yeah, 0-2 Horrible start for FSU. Still FSU semi might semi semi probably still finish 10-3, 9-3, 9-4, etc, but oh wait 9-4, 8-4, 8-5 is a FIREABLE offense at FSU, and enough to have the offending player heads on platter, and enough to demote said players, and kick said players off team, and take away their NIL deals, and have ESPN, Rivals, etc, reclassify said players from 4,5 starred recruits, players, to 2,3 starred recruits, players.
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Teresa Gould addresses the realignment rumor...

Loyal Coug1
mikalalas said:
I did not mention MHver3 in the group of sources for the CW PAC 2 media deal numbers source.

I did mention Greg Swaime, but only because when he is saying the same as the other named sources, he is usually pretty accurate, even alone he is semi accurate some of the time. It's theoretically semi possible that Greg Swaime said it, but I don't think, remember Greg Swaime saying it, except semi maybe semi semi probably just parroting, repeating what the other sources said.

As for the other sources, Canzano, Wilner, Mercury News,(who Wilner either used to, an or currently reports for at time), Dodd, Jim Williams, LOCKED ON NETWORK, and the unnamed sources, insiders, experts, sources, etc, that those credible sources use, are at least semi credible sources, reporters, etc.

And if you want you can go try to find the sources, etc, and if you don't find them, then that doesn't mean that not reported or that someone else won't find, post them etc.

But if you want to be silly, illogical, etc, go ahead.

But I know I have seen, heard what I saw, heard reported, 2,3,4 times, saying the same thing each time, from about 2,3,4 of the sources I named(not MHver3, and probably not Greg Swaime.

Just because your being silly illogical does not mean, does not likely mean, etc, that I theoretically, supposedly did not see, hear these reports from the semi credible sources I mentioned.

Also your memory, reading comprehension still needs a wee little tiny bit of work. But that said your reading comprehension is doing better then it used to be, that or maybe I wasn't communicating as well, and am maybe communicating better, or maybe a combo of all the above.
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Just start posting links to your "semi credible" sources. Not that difficult. That aside, when I see it on ESPN I will believe it.
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Loyal Coug1 said:
Buddy, when you read from these "credible" sources, all you have to do is post the link(s). Which you never do.

And none of the sources that you refer to have proven to be credible. Greg Swaime? MHver3? Who's the silly one here?
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I did not mention MHver3 in the group of sources for the CW PAC 2 media deal numbers source.

I did mention Greg Swaime, but only because when he is saying the same as the other named sources, he is usually pretty accurate, even alone he is semi accurate some of the time. It's theoretically semi possible that Greg Swaime said it, but I don't think, remember Greg Swaime saying it, except semi maybe semi semi probably just parroting, repeating what the other sources said.

As for the other sources, Canzano, Wilner, Mercury News,(who Wilner either used to, an or currently reports for at time), Dodd, Jim Williams, LOCKED ON NETWORK, and the unnamed sources, insiders, experts, sources, etc, that those credible sources use, are at least semi credible sources, reporters, etc.

And if you want you can go try to find the sources, etc, and if you don't find them, then that doesn't mean that not reported or that someone else won't find, post them etc.

But if you want to be silly, illogical, etc, go ahead.

But I know I have seen, heard what I saw, heard reported, 2,3,4 times, saying the same thing each time, from about 2,3,4 of the sources I named(not MHver3, and probably not Greg Swaime.

Just because your being silly illogical does not mean, does not likely mean, etc, that I theoretically, supposedly did not see, hear these reports from the semi credible sources I mentioned.

Also your memory, reading comprehension still needs a wee little tiny bit of work. But that said your reading comprehension is doing better then it used to be, that or maybe I wasn't communicating as well, and am maybe communicating better, or maybe a combo of all the above.
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Meister_Rebel said:
Yeah, when Apple wanted to pay $20 million per team with the old pac12 intact. I guess it means that the P2 is worth $7 million of that $20 million. I don't want to laugh but ...........
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7 mil per team per year for a PAC 2, WSU, OSU is nothing to snide at. If there was 8 to 10 to 12 WSU, OSU's in the PAC that would be a 70 mil, 7 mil per team per year media deal.

Also since the PAC gets 7 mil per team per year NOW, and if that's laughable, then what does that say about the MWC's 5 mil per team per year that they they get now. Does that mean they then are more laughable, since they get less per team, per year then the PAC?

7 Mil per team per year for the PAC 2, WSU, OSU, is nothing to snide at, and while the MWC, deal, and new deal to come is nothing to snide at, etc, the top 4,5 MWC would get a lot better media deal, etc, from a PAC 8 of BSU, SDSU, Fresno, UNLV, Memphis, Tulane, WSU, OSU.

But hey if the top MWC teams, and Memphis, Tulane, etc, want to stay in MWC, and in AAC, and get held back, down by the bottom feeders, then they can do so, but I think they are smart enough not to do stay in MWC, AAC, and instead join a extremely well rebuilt PAC 8, etc, that get a lot better media deal, more CFP money, semi semi guaranteed CFP spot for Champ where AAC, MAAC champ, even if 12-0, 11-1,10-2, wont take PAC 8's spot in CFP, if at least 9-3, 10-2, etc, and better bowls then the Idaho Potato Head bowl, LA BOWL, and more bowl money, etc.
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Loyal Coug1
mikalalas said:
1. No I didn't pull the about 15 mil to 22 mil per team, per year media deal range for a SPECIFIC Type PAC 8 of BSU, SDSU, Fresno St, UNLV, Memphis, Tulane, out my ass.

There have been many combined sources, unnamed sources, insiders, rumors, Twitter, You Tube, Canzano, Wilner, Jim Williams, Greg Swaime, MHver3, Locked On Network, all combined together types, that have mentioned 14 mil to 22 mil per team, per year for that specific type of PAC 8.

And it's also a extremely LOGICAL, RATIONAL, REASONABLE, pretty dam good EXTRAPOLATION, Projection, scientific, calculated, educated projection, extrapolation, BASED on the Evidence, Logic, facts, etc.

If you think that a PAC 8 consisting of BSU, SDSU, Fresno St, UNLV, Memphis, Tulane, WSU, OSU, would get at least 15 mil to 22 mil media deal, especially since the PAC 2 gets 7 mil per team per year, and 7 mil to PAC 2 money chest per year, now per the current CW PAC 2 media deal. If you think that PAC 8 wouldn't get 15 mil to 22 mil, then as Spock, Commander Data would say, you sir are illogical, don't compute, etc.


As for the current 7 mil per team per year PAC 2 CW deal. That's on very credible sources, and can easily be researched, verified, etc.

When I see a source like Canzano, Wilner, Dodd, LOCKED ON NETWORK, CBS, Greg Swaime, 1,2 of those combined sources, report something like that, I usually don't think in that moment "I'll have to remember, save this, research this more exhaustive, extensively just for Loyal being silly, etc."

I'm not going to do a exhaustive, extensive, etc, research, find out where, which one of those at least semi credible sources reported what I saw, heard.

I know what I saw, heard from 1 of those semi credible sources, that reported it. And I didn't just see, hear it only once, as I saw, heard the same reported 2,3,4 times, by 1,2,3,4 of the semi credible sources I mentioned.

If that's not good enough for you, then you can continue to be silly, illogical, and just like those of us that said "Naw, the PAC 12 won't fall apart, as none of that has been confirmed by either the Official CBS, NBC, ABC, ESPN, FOX, etc."
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Buddy, when you read from these "credible" sources, all you have to do is post the link(s). Which you never do.

And none of the sources that you refer to have proven to be credible. Greg Swaime? MHver3? Who's the silly one here?
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Loyal Coug1 said:
Hey Mik, where do you get the $7million per team deal with the CW? I can't find a dollar amount in any articles. Not saying you are wrong, just like to see facts.

That said, you are pulling the $16-21 million figure for your G5 Pac-8 squarely out of your ass.
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1. No I didn't pull the about 15 mil to 22 mil per team, per year media deal range for a SPECIFIC Type PAC 8 of BSU, SDSU, Fresno St, UNLV, Memphis, Tulane, out my ass.

There have been many combined sources, unnamed sources, insiders, rumors, Twitter, You Tube, Canzano, Wilner, Jim Williams, Greg Swaime, MHver3, Locked On Network, all combined together types, that have mentioned 14 mil to 22 mil per team, per year for that specific type of PAC 8.

And it's also a extremely LOGICAL, RATIONAL, REASONABLE, pretty dam good EXTRAPOLATION, Projection, scientific, calculated, educated projection, extrapolation, BASED on the Evidence, Logic, facts, etc.

If you think that a PAC 8 consisting of BSU, SDSU, Fresno St, UNLV, Memphis, Tulane, WSU, OSU, would get at least 15 mil to 22 mil media deal, especially since the PAC 2 gets 7 mil per team per year, and 7 mil to PAC 2 money chest per year, now per the current CW PAC 2 media deal. If you think that PAC 8 wouldn't get 15 mil to 22 mil, then as Spock, Commander Data would say, you sir are illogical, don't compute, etc.


As for the current 7 mil per team per year PAC 2 CW deal. That's on very credible sources, and can easily be researched, verified, etc.

When I see a source like Canzano, Wilner, Dodd, LOCKED ON NETWORK, CBS, Greg Swaime, 1,2 of those combined sources, report something like that, I usually don't think in that moment "I'll have to remember, save this, research this more exhaustive, extensively just for Loyal being silly, etc."

I'm not going to do a exhaustive, extensive, etc, research, find out where, which one of those at least semi credible sources reported what I saw, heard.

I know what I saw, heard from 1 of those semi credible sources, that reported it. And I didn't just see, hear it only once, as I saw, heard the same reported 2,3,4 times, by 1,2,3,4 of the semi credible sources I mentioned.

If that's not good enough for you, then you can continue to be silly, illogical, and just like those of us that said "Naw, the PAC 12 won't fall apart, as none of that has been confirmed by either the Official CBS, NBC, ABC, ESPN, FOX, etc."
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