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WSU & the 3-4

The previous long (way too long) thread wandered all over the map and finished with a comment by Sponge that was echoed by some. I think it deserves its own thread.

The opinion was expressed that (to paraphrase), WSU can't get the necessary nose players to run a 3-4.

While I agree with the implicit idea that you have to have the right nose to successfully run a 3-4, and I would even agree that we did not have an ideal answer this year, I don't buy the idea that we can't recruit nose players.

Just the most obvious reason that comes to mind is our Poly player recruiting success. If you wanted to pick one group of kids whose body type includes a lot of guys who are built like a nose needs to be built, who would you pick? Now, will every kid you recruit as a 17 year old develop at age 20 into a good nose player? Of course not. But if one out of 3 DL recruits does, you are well covered.

The thing that I think has to be factored into the equation is how long it takes to physically develop a PAC-level nose. It is hard for me to picture many kids being physically ready before age 20. Our JC transfer who worked out well in Leach's year 2 had both the right body for the job and by year 2 also had both the age and D1 technique development. A better answer is a HS recruit who has had D1 technique development/coaching for more years by the time he hits physical maturity. But since the first recruiting class is always weak & last minute for every new coach, we've really only had a couple of years of recruiting classes in the Leach era. Leach's HS recruits are just now hitting age 20/21 for this upcoming spring ball. That is a particularly big deal at the nose. If we stay with a 3 man front, I suspect we'll see a better fit at nose this season.

While on that subject, our recruiting interest this year seems to indicate that we may be looking at more 4 man front looks this season. And that is fine if it is what the new DC wants to run. But I don't accept the idea that we can't recruit nose players to Pullman, and the large Poly contingent on the roster is one of many reasons. Another is that we finally have had a 3 man front in place for enough years for the HS recruits to be getting to the age/maturity level required for a HS kid to handle what is possibly the most physically demanding position in football.

This post was edited on 1/10 8:29 AM by cr8zyncalif

MORE: Moos on 2014 FY, Martin expansion...

(Bill Moos, on Cougar Calls, talks AD revenue and expenses from 2014…) "We went into the year projecting a pretty big deficit, and then we added to it by design to get it all behind us. An example of that being a buyout of the previous men's basketball coach and the staff, and then the hiring of the new one. There was quite a difference there. Instead of paying monthly in regards to the coaching change, we decided to make it a one-time check and that was about $1.8 million, so that added to it. The bowl bonuses in football, we did not have factored in yet and really the full impact of the debt service on our new facilities hit us. We knew this was happening, we have a pro forma that shows us becoming solvent in 2019. We could hit that in 2018, just depending on some other revenue streams. The article in the Spokesman Review was not accurate. I believe it said we're getting $7 million and change from the institution, and that's not true. That number we were talking about is not institutional but our donor base monies for our CAF - which I want to take our people that are putting their skin in the game, believing in what we're doing. Another positive that was not included in that piece is, I recall, our attendance at Martin Stadium, which we had three sellouts out of six homes games and operated at 96 percent capacity for all six games. Boy, that's really helping us and that will show in the next year's budget. You see, we're on a fiscal calendar - July 1 to June 30. The report was on the budget that had just finished last summer."


(Bill Moos, on Cougar Calls, talks Martin Stadium expansion…) "I'll go back to my years at Oregon. I got there in 1995 and that was a Rose Bowl year. I got there afterwards. The Ducks were picked to finish last in the Pac-10 and surprised everybody. We were drawing maybe 20,000 and so we built that kind of the same way we're doing here: expanding the base, building our fan base, getting excited, getting better players, changing the culture. In 1998, we sold out every game and that's just three years, and it's been sold out ever since. But, we didn't expand the stadium until we were sold out for; let's see … 2002, so it's still a ways down the road. I know we have issues, we have night games; everyone has night games. Sometimes we have Thursday games; everybody has Thursday games. We have a fan base that the bulk of it is from Spokane and the Tri-Cities; that's two hours. Oregon's bulk is from Portland; that's two hours. We have a lot of similarities there, but we're going to have to fill [Martin Stadium] for two or three seasons before I think I can justify expanding. I think two or three years from now, just like now, it's going to be fun football to watch, we have good players - you know, people talk a lot about Oregon and say, 'how come they're here?' They've got great players. They have people that believe in them and it didn't just snap a finger and have Phil Knight walk in. That's not the way it went at all, not even close. The impact of Phil's money on the Oregon program pales in comparison to the new TV money that we're seeing at Washington State. We went from $2.8 million in Pac-12 monies to an average of $20.5 [million]. That's how we've been able to invest in facilities, invest in coaches and their staff and a lot of other infrastructure. So our pro forma shows us getting into black ink in 2019, it could be 2018. I applaud President Floyd for entrusting me with this plan because I really felt we needed to make those investments before we had the money to do so or we were going to get left in the dust. We're going to announce a recruiting class in a couple of weeks that for the large part has chosen Washington State because of Mike Leach and because of the gorgeous facilities that we have that can develop them into great major college football stars."

This post was edited on 1/12 1:55 PM by Britton Ransford

UPDATE: Another Texas DB to officially visit (1/12, 2:40 p.m.)

Spring (TX) cornerback Willie Sykes tells WazzuWatch.com he'll officially visit Washington State on January 16. The 5-foot-11, 183-pound cornerback is rated two-stars by Rivals and also holds offers from Fresno State, Minnesota, Oregon State, Purdue, Utah and several others.

Sykes is being recruited by Dennis Simmons and JJ Jackson, who had an in-home visit with the cornerback target before the dead period. Simmons has also visited Sykes at school several times throughout his recruitment. Sykes has visited Purdue and Minnesota.


This post was edited on 1/13 11:54 PM by Britton Ransford

CONTEST: Seahawks predictions...

Whatcha thinkin' for today's game? If you guess the score right, I might think about giving you a prize or something. If I guess correctly, every single non-subscriber that guesses wrong has to buy an annual subscription. Seems fair to me.

(I'm kidding, mostly.)

Prediction: Seahawks 26, Panthers 17


By the way, Cougs showed up to HecEd for their game against Washington today on the Hawks bus.

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(via @WSUMensHoops)

This post was edited on 1/10 11:09 AM by Britton Ransford

UPDATE: Bill Moos on DC search...

Washington State athletic director Bill Moos was on Cougar Calls with Bud Nameck today and he says that a defensive coordinator hire could be expected by the end of the week. Again, don't take Moos' timelines too seriously.

"We have talked to a couple [candidates] with very impressive resumes," Moos said. "We have a couple more this week and I would say that probably by the end of this week we'll have one in place. I can't guarantee that but again, as we mentioned last week and weeks before, this is a huge hire.

"This has got to be the right person; we actually have two openings on defense. We want to have a coordinator in place to help make the choice on the other position. I think I said this last week is that my goal, and coach Leach knows it and feels the same way, is when the Cougar defense comes off the field, that's not time to go get a hot dog and a pop. We want to be as exciting defensively as it is offensively, and when that's in place, look out."


This post was edited on 1/12 11:14 AM by Britton Ransford

The St. Brown Family

So we have one of the boys on our list of "wants" this season. Don't know the odds of getting Amon-Ra St. Brown. All of them either WR's or ATH's. Interesting sub-story for the next few years. Will be interesting to see how the family decisions are made.

We talked about this family a while back, when we first offered Equanimeous. This is the family that was putting out video's of their kids playing football (at the time the videos were put out, the kids were like 12 or 10 or something… waaaaaay young) that were sponsored by some "bulking up" company.

Safety Beau Glover no longer with the program...

According to his Twitter account, Washington State walk-on safety Beau Glover is no longer with the program. Glover, a redshirt sophomore from Gig Harbor, Wash., made it known he wouldn't be back with the football program on Twitter.

"Can't thank Coach Leach, Coach Reinart, Coach Wilson and Coach Mele and all the coaches for everything they did," Glover tweeted. "Going to miss playing for them."

I have reached out to Glover for further details and will pass those along when they become available.

Chris Klieman DC?

He is currently the coach at NDSU . He is known for his work as a DC. His team allowed 11.3 pts per game last year He makes $326,000 total . While he may not have coached in the big leagues he fits the bill, His family would probably like Pullman ,especially if he was making 500 K

This post was edited on 1/8 5:34 AM by ElComanche
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