Feel like he's going to grandstand on this. Stanford and Cal just got completely hosed.

Cal is going to have a massive bailout or cutting tons of sports. The look here is not good.

Up here in WA, Inslee is a Husky and won't say anything, but I think Newsom could make this a problem.

We need a miracle.

What a logistic travel fatigue. You would need to bring in Washington St. and Oregon St. to help ease the travel pain.

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Official non-conference schedule released. https://wsucougars.com/news/2023/8/...ketball-announces-nonconference-schedule.aspx

One of the biggest things we can help jump start in the wake of all of this is the establishment of a stronger G5 coalition. The super conference era is here to stay, and if there is a silver lining, there are only going to be so many seats available at the big-boy table. What needs to happen now is a vision of how 2nd tier can best survive.

The NCAA is greedy and media driven, but woven into their greed is the understanding that somewhere downstream, they need a viable mid-major layer of programs. That's what makes the NCAA basketball tournament so appealing, and while not as large in scope, it will be possible to have a highly competitive mid-major alliance in college football.

The financial gap between the P5 is always going to be increasingly massive, but by adding some protective roster building safeguards that will allow the mid-major programs to at least hang onto recruits for 2 years or limit the amount transferring that can occur by implementing a 1-year wait before being eligible at your new school, a more competitive foundation can be established.

The one freaking thing George K, the P12, B!G, B12, the NCAA and the media channels like Fox and ESPN can do is help facilitate a solid G5 foundation. There are solid programs in the MWC, AAC, conferences. The ACC burnout is going to leave teams like WSU and OSU looking for homes.

WSU
OSU
Stanford
Cal
SDSU
Boise St
Utah St
Fresno
UNLV
Hawaii
Air Force
Colorado St
San Jose St

Memphis
SMU
Army
Navy
UTEP
Temple
Rice
East Carolina
Tulane
Tulsa
South Florida
UTSA

There are also some FCS programs who should be contacted and enticed to consider stepping up. North Dakota St, North Dakota, South State, Montana.

All of this sucks, but we need some capable, forward thinking business people to dial in a mid-major coalition. Maybe the entire G5 needs to move to Apple TV with the biggest games sold to linear partners? I'm not smart enough to outline a plan, but I know that 45 power conference schools aren't enough to capture the spirit of college football. The market will tire of that very quickly.

Is to merge with the Mtn West. Whether they dissolve and join the Pac-16, or we just go hat in hand and beg them to take us, Big 10 and Big 12 ain't happening. This ACC talk is complete BS. F it. No more Apple Cup, no more Oregon, if OSU wants to come with us that's good. Stanford and Cal, they can do what they gotta do. $5 sez they will be in the Big 10 in a week.

We are so f-ed.

Their commissioner is in the process of meeting with remainder of Pac as well as SDSU due to their approval to 18 school. So seemingly may invite 1-2 of us on unknown deals for the ESPN directive to get west coast markets.

However, we will be working on merging with MW at exact same time. It makes no sense for Pac to pull less than the amount required to dissolve MW, to get rid of their buyout clauses. Otherwise we are paying tens on million per school.

Here’s where we get played again. Big12 commissioner holds off until Pac and MW begin merger, after MW has dissolved their charter, and there is no longer a buyout. SDSU then says FU to the merger and goes B12 in the span of a few hours only buying into the merger to absolve their buyout.

Are their fans in panic mode as we are? Options they are suggesting from their base? Really the only way forward is to keep the PAC12 conference and poach the best of the best and/or best viewership from G5 conferences.

My suggestion would be this:

WSU

OSU

Stanford

Cal

Fresno St

UNLV

San Diego St

SMU

Colorado St

Memphis

South Florida

N Texas/Wyoming/Air Force/Tulane/Rice?

All Mountain West teams would have to wait until 2025 or we pay that exit fee.

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The new Pac-12, (True Power 5)

Washington State

Oregon State

Stanford

California

Boise St.

Fresno St.

San Diego State

Air Force

Army

Navy

Tulane

Memphis

SMU

UTSA, (University of Texas at San Antonio)

JMU (James Madison University)

Liberty

One has to wonder how today would be different if those 2 were still around...I'm not sure if the results would change, but we sure as heck would know where WSU stands and who the weasels have been/are.

Desperate times so creativity and risk taking is required.

Bring in Gonzaga,St Marys, Santa Clara and 1 more for Basketball only. Add SDSU and you’d have a solid basketball conference.

Add the next 3-4 strongest brands from the Mtn West and or SMU.

Yes, it’s all about football but a stronger basketball conference would be a positive.

Layoffs at ESPN, cord-cutting, as every school scrambles to find a spot on a lifeboat. It sucks that we don't seem to have one, but this trend is coming for far more schools than just us and Oregon State. Vanderbilt and Mississippi State and Rutgers and Wake Forest shouldn't feel especially comfortable. Incidentally, I think Berkeley might be the school who suffers the most among The Leftovers. (Stanford could use it's endowment to buy the B1G if they wanted to, nobody is going to cry for them.) The process that started with the death of the Southwest Conference and creation of the Big East will have an ugly conclusion, perhaps as soon as 10 years from now. I don't know what it's going to look like, but the gold rush is ending, the money is going to dry up, and things are going to get far worse. These new superconferences are a ramshackle raft of athletic departments trying to stay afloat, and I'm skeptical of their longevity. 20 years from now maybe things will be better. Anybody who says they know how this is going to shake out after the crash is full of crap, but for the moment, this whole landscape is just depressing, not just as a Coug but as a lifelong fan of the sport. It's hard for me to get excited about sports in this landscape.

Looks like Adam Nije has decided to open up his recruiting. I’m not overly surprised, I thought he might shop around after the summer he had and with the PAC dissolving before our eyes I doubt he’ll be the last.

Is Schulz really on a cruise right now?

What happens when the B12 takes SDSU and CSU?

from the TCU site:

What's next for the Big 12:

The Big 12 presidents also voted on Friday night to pre-approve expansion efforts to a 17th and 18th team by December 31, 2023.

What does that mean? Well, it appears that Brett Yormark and the Big 12 will continue to be aggressive. Potential candidates include UConn and Oregon State, the latter of whom has recently made a pitch to the conference for membership and appears willing to take a lower payout.

Hopefully Schulz and Chun are right there working a package deal with their counterparts from Corvallis

Hi Cougar fans. I know right now it seems like college football is just for the Big boys and nobody else. I really don't want to see it become the SEC/B1G SHOW. I'm a Gator fan first, but a college football fan overall.

Eleven years ago the Big East folded. Cincinnati was forgotten about, UCF had their lone glorious season as a P6 member and won the league. UCONN just threw up their hands and followed the Villanova plan. USF just kind of withered.

My point in that history lesson is to point at the first two names listed. Both Cincy and UCF invested in their programs without major conference support. They fell off the map, slowly they made some good hires and built themselves up into programs that were better than when they were in a P6 league. Cincy made a playoff despite the formula being designed to keep them out.

This year Houston, Cincy, and UCF all got that call back into relevancy. At least as relevant as you can be outside the SEC or B1G. BYU was always a national brand imo. They survived being independent until they got an offer to join the table.

It sucks to lose the second oldest conference out there. It sucks to see mega conferences. It sucks to lose classic bowl importance. It really sucks to see fans just as invested as anybody see their team lose their rivalries. But there is a way back. It's just gonna take some time. You think the B1G would have invited Oregon with an undergraduate number of just over 18,000, a medium sized stadium, and no national titles, twenty years ago?

Go win the league this year. See your flag at the next Game day show.

It's Mountain West or oblivion. Doubt Stanford and Cal will follow, but that's their problem. Big 10 doesn't want us, Big 12 doesn't want us. Let's just hope the Mountain West will take us (and OSU). Otherwise we just fold up the tent and eliminate Athletics. It's that simple.

And either way Chun and Schulz need to be fired.

Basketball related

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And here is the pitch. Think of wsu and osu temporary placeholders for bigger fish . If Miami and FSU become available or Notre Dame we get booted with one years notice . Take 24 mil a year and even up the divisions .
NEXT, look at the Big 12 and point out our record vs those of cu, Arizona ,asu over the last 10 years . Then have them check their viewership over that same time frame . Wsu is easily as attractive or more so than Central Florida , WVU or Maryland .