Abandoning allies

[Stretch 74]

90% of people who watch the World Series are baseball fans. Not even close to 90% of population care about baseball.

Trump 2.0’s approval rating (47%) is the lowest of any president in 1st 45 days of anyone elected this century by a considerable amount.

Since you folks here are are doing internet arm wrestling over a point or two on vote totals, I might as well correct your random stat on Trump's job approval. At least you didn't cherry pick the lowest outlier poll (42 or 43%) that someone (I think it was Flat) recently quoted. Realclearpolitics.com average of recent polls shows Trump with a 48.8 approval rate. Reuters, CNN, and NPR polls are the only ones showing him underwater, all rather left leaning outlets. Coincidence or intended?

https://www.realclearpolling.com/polls/approval/donald-trump/approval-rating

Yes, 48.8 approval may still be the lowest of the presidents in this century, haven't seen any data on that. But it certainly can be believed, based on the behavior of the Democrats as they put their party over country and attempt to impede, hassle, attack, ruin, belittle, and oppose anything and everything that Donald Trump says or does. Their behavior at the joint address to Congress on Tuesday and then at Al Green's censure today proves that they are all deeply infected with Trump Derangement Syndrome and that trying to destroy the man means more to them than recognizing good things for the country and the people that live in it.

They are driving us toward a civil war. It may not involve mass usage of firearms, but it will be very ugly. I am very sad about that.

 

[Coug90]

Plug whatever numbers you want - Trump won the popular vote; polls show his message was wildly accepted Tuesday night.

Now do operative conditioning.

You fell for the same nonsense during COVID.

Regardless of how accurate your numbers are, seems like a good time to quote the late great George Carlin…”Think about how dumb the average American is. Now think about the fact that half of them are dumber than that.”

 

[Observer11]

Since you folks here are are doing internet arm wrestling over a point or two on vote totals, I might as well correct your random stat on Trump's job approval. At least you didn't cherry pick the lowest outlier poll (42 or 43%) that someone (I think it was Flat) recently quoted. Realclearpolitics.com average of recent polls shows Trump with a 48.8 approval rate. Reuters, CNN, and NPR polls are the only ones showing him underwater, all rather left leaning outlets. Coincidence or intended?

https://www.realclearpolling.com/polls/approval/donald-trump/approval-rating

Yes, 48.8 approval may still be the lowest of the presidents in this century, haven't seen any data on that. But it certainly can be believed, based on the behavior of the Democrats as they put their party over country and attempt to impede, hassle, attack, ruin, belittle, and oppose anything and everything that Donald Trump says or does. Their behavior at the joint address to Congress on Tuesday and then at Al Green's censure today proves that they are all deeply infected with Trump Derangement Syndrome and that trying to destroy the man means more to them than recognizing good things for the country and the people that live in it.

They are driving us toward a civil war. It may not involve mass usage of firearms, but it will be very ugly. I am very sad about that.

Biden approval low - July 2024 36%

 

[WillieThePimp]

Since you folks here are are doing internet arm wrestling over a point or two on vote totals, I might as well correct your random stat on Trump's job approval. At least you didn't cherry pick the lowest outlier poll (42 or 43%) that someone (I think it was Flat) recently quoted. Realclearpolitics.com average of recent polls shows Trump with a 48.8 approval rate. Reuters, CNN, and NPR polls are the only ones showing him underwater, all rather left leaning outlets. Coincidence or intended?

https://www.realclearpolling.com/polls/approval/donald-trump/approval-rating

Yes, 48.8 approval may still be the lowest of the presidents in this century, haven't seen any data on that. But it certainly can be believed, based on the behavior of the Democrats as they put their party over country and attempt to impede, hassle, attack, ruin, belittle, and oppose anything and everything that Donald Trump says or does. Their behavior at the joint address to Congress on Tuesday and then at Al Green's censure today proves that they are all deeply infected with Trump Derangement Syndrome and that trying to destroy the man means more to them than recognizing good things for the country and the people that live in it.

They are driving us toward a civil war. It may not involve mass usage of firearms, but it will be very ugly. I am very sad about that.

Whackadoodle posted:

“51% of the American public voted for the current President and 70% approved of the President's message Tuesday night and they are all in a cult.”

There are approximately 245 million registered voters in the US, 77 million of whom voted for Trump

77:245 = 31% of the America’s registered voters voted for Trump.

31%.

 

[Observer11]

Whackadoodle posted:

“51% of the American public voted for the current President and 70% approved of the President's message Tuesday night and they are all in a cult.”

There are approximately 245 million registered voters in the US, 77 million of whom voted for Trump

77:245 = 31% of the America’s registered voters voted for Trump.

31%.

Trump won, right? Or are we recycling Hilary's 2016 stolen election stuff.

Now back to the point - operative conditioning and cults. Do tell.

 

[WillieThePimp]

Trump won, right? Or are we recycling Hilary's 2016 stolen election stuff.

Now back to the point - operative conditioning and cults. Do tell.

You said what you said. Now you’re pivoting,

 

[95coug]

Whackadoodle posted:

“51% of the American public voted for the current President and 70% approved of the President's message Tuesday night and they are all in a cult.”

There are approximately 245 million registered voters in the US, 77 million of whom voted for Trump

77:245 = 31% of the America’s registered voters voted for Trump.

31%.

The stat you're contradicting is completely false, but yours is also incorrect. There are 240-245 million people who are eligible to vote in the US. Only around 165 million of those are registered to vote, and somewhere around 155 million actually voted. Trump got 46.9% of registered voters, 31-32% of the population eligible to vote, and only 22.7% of the total population. Not sure which of those numbers one would consider "the American public," but none of them are 51%...or any other majority. And certainly not a mandate.

The number of people who didn't vote at all outnumber those who voted for either candidate...by quite a bit.

As for the 70% approval of the speech, that's based on a sample of only 1200 people, more than half of whom were Republicans.

 

[Observer11]

You said what you said. Now you’re pivoting,

Operative conditioning and cult behavior was in the first post. Haven't moved.

Caught up in the forest without seeing the trees, friend.

 

[CougInSpain]

Operative conditioning and cult behavior was in the first post. Haven't moved.

Caught up in the forest without seeing the trees, friend.

Not surprising because these libs wouldn't even be able to see a train coming if they were standing on the tracks. Their TDS doesn't allow for self-reflection.

 

[WillieThePimp]

The stat you're contradicting is completely false, but yours is also incorrect. There are 240-245 million people who are eligible to vote in the US. Only around 165 million of those are registered to vote, and somewhere around 155 million actually voted. Trump got 46.9% of registered voters, 31-32% of the population eligible to vote, and only 22.7% of the total population. Not sure which of those numbers one would consider "the American public," but none of them are 51%...or any other majority. And certainly not a mandate.

The number of people who didn't vote at all outnumber those who voted for either candidate...by quite a bit.

As for the 70% approval of the speech, that's based on a sample of only 1200 people, more than half of whom were Republicans.

I stand corrected. However I’m not totally wrong as he did say 51% of the American public.

 

[Observer11]

I stand corrected. However I’m not totally wrong as he did say 51% of the American public.

Already addressed that previously. Yet you don't want to address my question.

Operative conditioning and cult like behavior.

 

[BleedCrimsonandGray]

The stat you're contradicting is completely false, but yours is also incorrect. There are 240-245 million people who are eligible to vote in the US. Only around 165 million of those are registered to vote, and somewhere around 155 million actually voted. Trump got 46.9% of registered voters, 31-32% of the population eligible to vote, and only 22.7% of the total population. Not sure which of those numbers one would consider "the American public," but none of them are 51%...or any other majority. And certainly not a mandate.

The number of people who didn't vote at all outnumber those who voted for either candidate...by quite a bit.

As for the 70% approval of the speech, that's based on a sample of only 1200 people, more than half of whom were Republicans.

Statistics only count when they say what I agree with.

 

[Loyal Coug1]

The stat you're contradicting is completely false, but yours is also incorrect. There are 240-245 million people who are eligible to vote in the US. Only around 165 million of those are registered to vote, and somewhere around 155 million actually voted. Trump got 46.9% of registered voters, 31-32% of the population eligible to vote, and only 22.7% of the total population. Not sure which of those numbers one would consider "the American public," but none of them are 51%...or any other majority. And certainly not a mandate.

The number of people who didn't vote at all outnumber those who voted for either candidate...by quite a bit.

As for the 70% approval of the speech, that's based on a sample of only 1200 people, more than half of whom were Republicans.

I will assume your stats are accurate (as opposed to stats from others) .
Anyway, this is disturbing. Here we are the land of the free, and a full third of people don't register to vote? That is F-ed up.

 

[KRUSTYtheCOUG]

Since you folks here are are doing internet arm wrestling over a point or two on vote totals, I might as well correct your random stat on Trump's job approval. At least you didn't cherry pick the lowest outlier poll (42 or 43%) that someone (I think it was Flat) recently quoted. Realclearpolitics.com average of recent polls shows Trump with a 48.8 approval rate. Reuters, CNN, and NPR polls are the only ones showing him underwater, all rather left leaning outlets. Coincidence or intended?

https://www.realclearpolling.com/polls/approval/donald-trump/approval-rating

Yes, 48.8 approval may still be the lowest of the presidents in this century, haven't seen any data on that. But it certainly can be believed, based on the behavior of the Democrats as they put their party over country and attempt to impede, hassle, attack, ruin, belittle, and oppose anything and everything that Donald Trump says or does. Their behavior at the joint address to Congress on Tuesday and then at Al Green's censure today proves that they are all deeply infected with Trump Derangement Syndrome and that trying to destroy the man means more to them than recognizing good things for the country and the people that live in it.

They are driving us toward a civil war. It may not involve mass usage of firearms, but it will be very ugly. I am very sad about that.

They? Have you heard how Trump (both 45 and 47) refer to the other party - as a whole?

Yes, I'm aware of the Hitler slurs. I don't use them. It never advances the ball. But the democratic leadership, and certainly our last president hasn't used that term.

This shit-stain has said democrats hate democracy, are coming for your bibles and a bunch more that I could list. He is ACTIVELY divisive. You can't really support that rhetoric, right?

 

[KRUSTYtheCOUG]

Biden approval low - July 2024 36%

COUGinNCW said:
Trump 2.0’s approval rating (47%) is the lowest of any president in 1st 45 days of anyone elected this century by a considerable amount

You cited a poll 4 yrs into Biden's presidency. Not the same, right? Taihtsat

 

[dgibbons]

They? Have you heard how Trump (both 45 and 47) refer to the other party - as a whole?

Yes, I'm aware of the Hitler slurs. I don't use them. It never advances the ball. But the democratic leadership, and certainly our last president hasn't used that term.

This shit-stain has said democrats hate democracy, are coming for your bibles and a bunch more that I could list. He is ACTIVELY divisive. You can't really support that rhetoric, right?

And calling the President of the United States Hitler, a Nazi, a racist, a fascist, a xenophobe, an existential threat to democracy, a Russian asset, etc. is not divisive?

 

[Observer11]

And calling the President of the United States Hitler, a Nazi, a racist, a fascist, a xenophobe, an existential threat to democracy, a Russian asset, etc. is not divisive?

(Operative conditioning)

 

[WillieThePimp]

Already addressed that previously. Yet you don't want to address my question.

Operative conditioning and cult like behavior.

I addressed your first paragraph which was full of baloney.

I couldn’t give a runny shit about your whackadoodle hypothetical gibberty gook.

 

[KRUSTYtheCOUG]

Already addressed that previously. Yet you don't want to address my question.

Operative conditioning and cult like behavior.

When you keep using this "operative conditioning" term...where did you learn that? You didnt come up with that all by your lonesome.

Also, when you keep uttering the "trust the science" to denigrate covid mitigating strategies...can you name a single actual scientist/researcher involved in covid research science and that used that term?

You may be tempted to go after fauci (who wasn't actively involved in research and the science) for saying "follow the science". His job was definitely taking the latest findings and communicating them to the public and advising shit-stain45. I guess your "operative conditioning" was and still is in full gear.

Place whatever it is you think is ahead of science at your own peril, I guess. Oh right...you did. You voted for shit-stain47 who appointed RFK Jr.

 

[KRUSTYtheCOUG]

And calling the President of the United States Hitler, a Nazi, a racist, a fascist, a xenophobe, an existential threat to democracy, a Russian asset, etc. is not divisive?

Refer to my rsponse to stretch in #494. I addressed all of that.

However...the last three terms you used applied to him by fierce critics isn't necessarily a closed topic. Taihtsat

 

[WillieThePimp]

When you keep using this "operative conditioning" term...where did you learn that? You didnt come up with that all by your lonesome.

Also, when you keep uttering the "trust the science" to denigrate covid mitigating strategies...can you name a single actual scientist/researcher involved in covid research science and that used that term?

You may be tempted to go after fauci (who wasn't actively involved in research and the science) for saying "follow the science". His job was definitely taking the latest findings and communicating them to the public and advising shit-stain45. I guess your "operative conditioning" was and still is in full gear.

Place whatever it is you think is ahead of science at your own peril, I guess. Oh right...you did. You voted for shit-stain47 who appointed RFK Jr.

From another whackadoodle he's learned an obscure term that he likely doesn’t understand as well as he’s pretending to but he’s going to try and wield it like a hammer nonetheless.

 

[dgibbons]

Refer to my rsponse to stretch in #494. I addressed all of that.

However...the last three terms you used applied to him by fierce critics isn't necessarily a closed topic. Taihtsat

Whether you use “Hitler slurs” or not is immaterial to the question posed. Care to answer?

 

[95coug]

From another whackadoodle he's learned an obscure term that he likely doesn’t understand as well as he’s pretending to but he’s going to try and wield it like a hammer nonetheless.

It’s actually “operant conditioning,” so I’d say you’re correct

 

[WillieThePimp]

It’s actually “operant conditioning,” so I’d say you’re correct

Brings to mind the Malcom Gladwell “Igon Value problem”.

 

[95coug]

Brings to mind the Malcom Gladwell “Igon Value problem”.

Total tangent…I recently listened to Malcolm Gladwell reading his own audiobook (The Bomber Mafia).

Dude needs to stick to writing.

 

[WillieThePimp]

Total tangent…I recently listened to Malcolm Gladwell reading his own audiobook (The Bomber Mafia).

Dude needs to stick to writing.

Haven’t heard him speak in quite a few years. He’s an interesting guy who is an extremely talented storyteller but has been known to make leaps in logic and talk out of his depth.

 

[Observer11]

It’s actually “operant conditioning,” so I’d say you’re correct

Attaboy. Finally. It only took all day.