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Biden will last 1.5 years tops.

Mexico has better weather.

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My prediction is that Gropey Joe lasts just over 2 years. I believe the people pulling the strings for him are playing the long game. If they can get him to stumble and bumble through two years, then Kamala would be eligible to run for president two more times, and be in office for almost ten years. If Joe leaves before two years she would only be eligible for one additional term. Think back to LBJ, who was eligible to run for a second full term in 1968, but elected to not run.
 
Class act.
I've seen so many trolls such as yourself over the years on this board that I just yawn these days...
If you really gave taff a thumbs up for his post, I am not sure that is all too classy.
 
If you really gave taff a thumbs up for his post, I am not sure that is all too classy.
My thumbs up for tafs post was in his very accurate observation that this troll is a hypocrite. Yes, taf was as subtle as a train wreck and that isn't a good look either.
Btw Ed...did you really go back and figure out what posts I liked?
 
My thumbs up for tafs post was in his very accurate observation that this troll is a hypocrite. Yes, taf was as subtle as a train wreck and that isn't a good look either.
Btw Ed...did you really go back and figure out what posts I liked?

Actually, I went through the thread as I hadn't been on recently so I went through the entire thread. taffs post is quite frankly classless, and gross. There are dead people out there. I get in some parts it is just unfortunate they caught the flu. But different strokes for different folks I guess.

Eric
 
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My prediction is that Gropey Joe lasts just over 2 years. I believe the people pulling the strings for him are playing the long game. If they can get him to stumble and bumble through two years, then Kamala would be eligible to run for president two more times, and be in office for almost ten years. If Joe leaves before two years she would only be eligible for one additional term. Think back to LBJ, who was eligible to run for a second full term in 1968, but elected to not run.

Under. Pelosi already has her procedure set up to take him out.
 
Pretty good summary. What has been most astonishing to me in the past 10 years is the blatant lies that are promoted as fact to discourage any kind of intelligent discourse. Since political affiliations have started being treated as team sports, people have spent an inordinate amount of time promoting lies and exaggerations instead of focusing on what items that can be dealt with in bi-partisan fashion.

I am in the process of disassociating myself from a friend that I've known for 25 years because I don't want to discuss politics with him and I can't pretend that I'm ok with him turning into a ranting idiot talking up Newsmax and OAN. I fear that we are trending into some very, very dark times where truth is secondary to winning. I am seriously thinking about moving to Belize or another country just to get away from the partisan stupidity that is rising.
The Cold War is over, so Capitalist v. Communist is no longer the dominant "us v. them." We needed to find a new enemy, and there isn't a global one, so we created one at home. Now it's liberal v. conservative, red v. blue.

To be clear, when I say "we," I mean partially our government and largely the mass media. They need to convince us there's an enemy in order to justify their existence and sell subscriptions. And then they need to continue to demonize the enemy to keep us interested.

Truth is that both sides will agree on a significant majority of topics, but that's not interesting. So fanning the flames of the minority of issues the sides disagree on - and ensuring that there's no progress toward resolution - is in their interest. And it works.
 
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The Cold War is over, so Capitalist v. Communist is no longer the dominant "us v. them." We needed to find a new enemy, and there isn't a global one, so we created one at home. Now it's liberal v. conservative, red v. blue.

To be clear, when I say "we," I mean partially our government and largely the mass media. They need to convince us there's an enemy in order to justify their existence and sell subscriptions. And then they need to continue to demonize the enemy to keep us interested.

Truth is that both sides will agree on a significant majority of topics, but that's not interesting. So fanning the flames of the minority of issues the sides disagree on - and ensuring that there's no progress toward resolution - is in their interest. And it works.

We have been in a burgeoning civil war for years now. We now have a person in the White House who was smart enough to know it and used it to his advantage. The original enemy of 2016 was Muslim's. Now it is the brown and black hoard coming to the suburbs to make them the next battleground. Meanwhile China and Russia are laughing their asses off.
 
We have been in a burgeoning civil war for years now. We now have a person in the White House who was smart enough to know it and used it to his advantage. The original enemy of 2016 was Muslim's. Now it is the brown and black hoard coming to the suburbs to make them the next battleground. Meanwhile China and Russia are laughing their asses off.

Trump has done a pretty decent job of highlighting the threat of China. Much better than "C'mon man."
 
Pretty good summary. What has been most astonishing to me in the past 10 years is the blatant lies that are promoted as fact to discourage any kind of intelligent discourse. Since political affiliations have started being treated as team sports, people have spent an inordinate amount of time promoting lies and exaggerations instead of focusing on what items that can be dealt with in bi-partisan fashion.

I am in the process of disassociating myself from a friend that I've known for 25 years because I don't want to discuss politics with him and I can't pretend that I'm ok with him turning into a ranting idiot talking up Newsmax and OAN. I fear that we are trending into some very, very dark times where truth is secondary to winning. I am seriously thinking about moving to Belize or another country just to get away from the partisan stupidity that is rising.

You do realize that what you term partisan stupidity rising is a direct response to partisan stupidity that has already risen, right?
 
I doubt you even know what a race is or what a racist is. Can you tell us what makes someone a racist? Can you identify how many races there are? (Hint, there are probably fewer than you think)

For extra credit, can you explain how making a comment about Barack Obama or Maxine Waters or Colin Kaepernick makes you a racist?
You are a racist. Guaranteed. You’re also proud of it. I’m not answering your questions here, but I’d be happy to have an in-person conversation with you about everything.
 
You do realize that what you term partisan stupidity rising is a direct response to partisan stupidity that has already risen, right?

Oh.......it's been rising for a while and both parties are guilty. From where I sit as a RINO, I feel that the GOP is the more guilty of the two, but Trump wouldn't have been able to do much of what he did in the past four years if Democrats hadn't done things during the Obama era that opened that door.
 
I doubt you even know what a race is or what a racist is. Can you tell us what makes someone a racist? Can you identify how many races there are? (Hint, there are probably fewer than you think)

For extra credit, can you explain how making a comment about Barack Obama or Maxine Waters or Colin Kaepernick makes you a racist?

He is the typical white guilter, if he is white, or he is not white, but thinks if your not a politically correct white guilter white, or a non white that your a racist.

Also if you make a comment about Obama, etc, your a racist.

But its ok for him, others to attack Ben Carson a Black, conservative, republican, and call him a uncle tom, and they dont think its racist at all.

Its funny when I get labeled a racist by him, others, since my brother in law is hispanic, and since I used to work 12 hours a day, and was friends with the migrant hispanic farm workers in the Bean Crop fields in Othello WA, and since I had Native American, Hispanic, Black, Asian friends growing up, and now, and since I had a Kuwaiti friend in college, that was a exchange student that had Saddam murder his family.

But since I am a semi conservative, constitutionalist, semi libertarian, semi republican, semi moderate, since I am white, and not a white guilter, since I am not politically correct, etc, then according to him, them, I am a supposed racist.

Roughly about 49% to 59% to 69% of Liberal Democrats, are just like him.
 
The economy isn't being shut down for the fraction of people dying, it is shut down for the people who would have died because the hospitals don't have the capacity to handle it. They aren't looking at what did happen, but rather what would have happened.

How many people in New York, the epicenter, would have died if nothing happened, that there was no state mandate?

Truth is many people self isolated anyway. The economy was taking a hit whether or not there was a closure.

The CDC, WHO, centers of disease control, world health organization, have still said, and still do continue to say, that Lockdowns, shutdowns are not needed and are bad, except in the ultimate, worst case, emergency, scenarios.

But Liberal Democrats, Inslee, others in WA, CA, Las Vegas, Nevada, wrongly think they know more then the CDC, WHO, and wrongly continue to lockdown, shutdown, step on constitutional rights, allow mass protesting, gambling, other activities that spreads the virus, while wrongly, hypocritically, discriminatively, disallow churches, religeons, churches, synagogues, etc, from singing, going to church, an or only allow 25 to 50 at church, while allowing thousands at protest, casinos, etc.
 
Naw...C’mon Man!

Plus "But she and her husband, Senator Mitch McConnell of Kentucky, have received millions of dollars in gifts from her father, James, who ran the company until last year."

But, I'll still call Trump a China hawk. More so than any president I recall.
 
I'd venture a guess that 90% of people on earth are racist. The Western world throws the term around politically, and for new-age social validation, but if you've traveled outside of America and Europe, you'd realize how mild America's racism is comparatively.
 
I mostly agree. It doesn't bode well for the future of the uSA when nearly three-quarters of nearly half the country doesn't think Biden was fairly or legitimately elected, using all manner of motivated-reasoning and conspiratorial thinking to justify their passions. I do not think there is going to be any coming back from that.

The GOP, once a rational, reasonable political party has evolved so much in just 4 yrs and continues to be solidified as an irrational and unreasonable party by the balkinization of media bubbles that do not recognize common points of fact. It is moving quickly, too. FOX is no longer quite pure enough and is losing audience share to an even worse version of itself.

My only hope is that Biden is boring and ordinary for 4 yrs to perhaps reinstate some normalcy to that office. It will be a huge change to simply have someone in that office that isn't ACTIVELY trying to divide it's citizensbased solely on our manufactured image of the other side.

Canada is looking like a pretty good place to retire. Taihtsat

Your right about the GOP, Trumper's.

Its really become about which is the lesser of 2 evils.

The GOP, Trumpers are, have become stupid with their stupid "The Election has been stolen", "Fraud", not accepting the results of the election.

They have become like Al Gore was in him not accepting the election results.

I understand that there was a little, limited election errors, isolated examples of individuals trying to do fraud.

I understand that news were calling results too soon, and wrongly calling it one way or the other.

I understand that some illegal aliens voted. I understand that some felons, dead people, etc, voted.

But even tho some of that happened. It was not enough to alter the outcome of the election.

Even the 6-3 conservative majority Supreme Court held up the results of the election.

But despite that, the GOP, Trumpers, FOX, Hannity, etc, are still wrongly crying "Fraud", etc.

So stupid.

But as stupid as it is, was, the GOP, etc, was, is the lesser of 2 evils.

The reason for that is.

1. GOP are not socialist, marxist, wont turn USA into VENEZUALA like the Liberal Democrats will.

2. Biden is or has veen racist in past.

3. Biden has sexually assaulted women, but that hasnt been proved in court and hasnt gone to court, because it has been swept under carpet, squashed, not allowed in court, etc.

4. Biden has gotten into literal fist fights with people. He has violently assaulted people.

Example.

At a town hall a man questioned Biden, pissed Biden off, after which Biden verbally, phyically attacked, shoved, hit the man, which would have erupted into a full fight if the secret service had not intervened.

It was shown on video and on FOX, all over the internet.

5. Biden while VP, had the prosecutor that was investigating his son Hunter Biden fired to stop, prevent the investigation. And the way he did that was threaten to withhold money, aid to Ukraine, if Ukraine didnt fire the prosecutor.

6. The free everything for everyone 100 Trillion dollar GREEN NEW DEAL.

Biden, and Democrats, Liberals, were, are the worse of the 2 evils.

And as such its not good for conservatives, republicans, liberatarians, independents, moderates, centrist, etc, to have voted Biden, democrat, etc, to spite the GOP, Trump, etc.

That said, if Trump had won, I would be hoping that he would be impeached, and Pence take over, until maybe Ben Carson, etc, hopefully a better, more reasonable candidate hopefully gets elected.

But since Biden won, hopefully the GOP retains control over the senate to stop the 100 trillion dollar Green New Deal.

If Democrats control the whitehouse AND the Senate, AND the SUPREME COURT AND a majority of STATE legislatures, governor seats, etc, this country would be DOOMED and I would then want to move to another country.
 
I'd venture a guess that 90% of people on earth are racist. The Western world throws the term around politically, and for new-age social validation, but if you've traveled outside of America and Europe, you'd realize how mild America's racism is comparatively.
Are you really minimizing the existence and severity of racism in this country? “Most people are racist and it’s worse elsewhere, so it’s not really a big deal here.” YOU’RE the moderator? Certainly sounds like somebody with a “badge,” out patrolling.

This board is infested with old, conservative, bigotry. Good god, what a cesspool.

Ban me if you will, Officer Chauvin.
 
The Cold War is over, so Capitalist v. Communist is no longer the dominant "us v. them." We needed to find a new enemy, and there isn't a global one, so we created one at home. Now it's liberal v. conservative, red v. blue.

To be clear, when I say "we," I mean partially our government and largely the mass media. They need to convince us there's an enemy in order to justify their existence and sell subscriptions. And then they need to continue to demonize the enemy to keep us interested.

Truth is that both sides will agree on a significant majority of topics, but that's not interesting. So fanning the flames of the minority of issues the sides disagree on - and ensuring that there's no progress toward resolution - is in their interest. And it works.

The democrat party has been HIJACKED by the AOC, ACORN, BLACK PANTHERS, ANTIFA, BLACK LIVES MATTER, socialist, marxist, communist, etc, who if they had their way, they would turn the USA into Venezuala.

Yes their are white supremacist, racist, etc, that are in the minority of the GOP, and have been marginalized.

Yes the Trump faction has taken over the GOP.

But the Trump Faction, and the marginalized racist in the minority are not as bad as Antifa, Black Panther, communist, etc.

The Cold War has been replaced.

There is a new COLD WAR.

Its a political war between the CAPITALIST, constitutionalist, Liberty loving people, and against the SOCIALIST, MARXIST, COMMUNIST.

This war is in the USA.

If the political war is lost, to the Socialist, Marxist, Communist:

The USA will become the new Venezuala, the New Socialist, Marxist, Communist, Soviet States of America.l, or the CSSA(Communist Soviet States of America)

Russia, the Soviet Union have smartened up.

They know the way to defeat america is to NOT fight a cold war, or a war.

They know the way to defeat america is from within via a war of ideas, etc, by influencing the political system, by politically supporting groups like Antifa, Black Panthers, etc, and encouraging them, until the USA becomes like Venezuala, and becomes the New Russian, Soviet Union communist in arms ally.
 
He is the typical white guilter, if he is white, or he is not white, but thinks if your not a politically correct white guilter white, or a non white that your a racist.

Also if you make a comment about Obama, etc, your a racist.

But its ok for him, others to attack Ben Carson a Black, conservative, republican, and call him a uncle tom, and they dont think its racist at all.

Its funny when I get labeled a racist by him, others, since my brother in law is hispanic, and since I used to work 12 hours a day, and was friends with the migrant hispanic farm workers in the Bean Crop fields in Othello WA, and since I had Native American, Hispanic, Black, Asian friends growing up, and now, and since I had a Kuwaiti friend in college, that was a exchange student that had Saddam murder his family.

But since I am a semi conservative, constitutionalist, semi libertarian, semi republican, semi moderate, since I am white, and not a white guilter, since I am not politically correct, etc, then according to him, them, I am a supposed racist.

Roughly about 49% to 59% to 69% of Liberal Democrats, are just like him.
Don’t worry Mik you are definitely not a racist. There’s not a single racist I know who has the mastery of the run-on sentence that you do.
 
Trump has done a pretty decent job of highlighting the threat of China. Much better than "C'mon man."
Highlighting? Yep..agreed. Kind of like saying so and so should be banned from the board for bad behavior and not doing anything about it when you are the moderator.
 
The democrat party has been HIJACKED by the AOC, ACORN, BLACK PANTHERS, ANTIFA, BLACK LIVES MATTER, socialist, marxist, communist, etc, who if they had their way, they would turn the USA into Venezuala.

Yes their are white supremacist, racist, etc, that are in the minority of the GOP, and have been marginalized.

Yes the Trump faction has taken over the GOP.

But the Trump Faction, and the marginalized racist in the minority are not as bad as Antifa, Black Panther, communist, etc.

The Cold War has been replaced.

There is a new COLD WAR.

Its a political war between the CAPITALIST, constitutionalist, Liberty loving people, and against the SOCIALIST, MARXIST, COMMUNIST.

This war is in the USA.

If the political war is lost, to the Socialist, Marxist, Communist:

The USA will become the new Venezuala, the New Socialist, Marxist, Communist, Soviet States of America.l, or the CSSA(Communist Soviet States of America)

Russia, the Soviet Union have smartened up.

They know the way to defeat america is to NOT fight a cold war, or a war.

They know the way to defeat america is from within via a war of ideas, etc, by influencing the political system, by politically supporting groups like Antifa, Black Panthers, etc, and encouraging them, until the USA becomes like Venezuala, and becomes the New Russian, Soviet Union communist in arms ally.

When you wrap yourself in the flag does it keep you warm? I have always chuckled when I hear that the collective "we love America" and we are more American than you.

Honest question, is there anything more "fascist" than trying to overturn an election without the proper evidence presented in the court of law. I am all for overturning an election if Rudy goes on record in a court of law and says there was fraud. Unfortunately, Rudy has lost his touch in the court room, won't assert in the courtroom fraud existed. Just strange stuff.
 
Are you really minimizing the existence and severity of racism in this country? “Most people are racist and it’s worse elsewhere, so it’s not really a big deal here.” YOU’RE the moderator? Certainly sounds like somebody with a “badge,” out patrolling.

This board is infested with old, conservative, bigotry. Good god, what a cesspool.

Ban me if you will, Officer Chauvin.

Used to be you would have to have a hell of a lot of proof to make that charge. Nowadays people just drop that accusation because someone voted for the "wrong" candidate and to silence them.

This trend is not a change for the better. You have zero proof that anyone on here is a racist.
 
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Your right about the GOP, Trumper's.

Its really become about which is the lesser of 2 evils.

The GOP, Trumpers are, have become stupid with their stupid "The Election has been stolen", "Fraud", not accepting the results of the election.

They have become like Al Gore was in him not accepting the election results.

NOT QUITE. AL GORE CONCEDED ONCE THE SUPREME COURT MADE IT'S RULING, EVEN THOUGH HE COULD HAVE PURSUED ADDITIONAL MEASURES. BOTTOM LINE...HE DID EVENTIALLY CONCEDE AND NEVER CLAIMED FRAUD

I understand that there was a little, limited election errors, isolated examples of individuals trying to do fraud.

I understand that news were calling results too soon, and wrongly calling it one way or the other.

WHERE DID THE MEDIA CALL IT WRONG? NO STATE WAS WAS LATER REVERSED. WHAT STATE WAS CALLED WRONG?

I understand that some illegal aliens voted. I understand that some felons, dead people, etc, voted.

But even tho some of that happened. It was not enough to alter the outcome of the election.

Even the 6-3 conservative majority Supreme Court held up the results of the election.

GLAD YOU CONCEDE THIS

But despite that, the GOP, Trumpers, FOX, Hannity, etc, are still wrongly crying "Fraud", etc.

GLAD YOU RECOGNIZE THIS

So stupid.

But as stupid as it is, was, the GOP, etc, was, is the lesser of 2 evils.

The reason for that is.

1. GOP are not socialist, marxist, wont turn USA into VENEZUALA like the Liberal Democrats will.

STRAWMAN ALERT. YOU HAVE NO EVIDENCE TO SUPPORT THIS

2. Biden is or has veen racist in past.

EVEN IF THIS WERE TRUE...MORE THAN TRUMP?

3. Biden has sexually assaulted women, but that hasnt been proved in court and hasnt gone to court, because it has been swept under carpet, squashed, not allowed in court, etc.

EVEN IF THIS WERE TRUE...MORE THAN TRUMP? AND...THIS SOMEHOW BOTHERS YOU?

4. Biden has gotten into literal fist fights with people. He has violently assaulted people.

Example.

At a town hall a man questioned Biden, pissed Biden off, after which Biden verbally, phyically attacked, shoved, hit the man, which would have erupted into a full fight if the secret service had not intervened.

It was shown on video and on FOX, all over the internet.

5. Biden while VP, had the prosecutor that was investigating his son Hunter Biden fired to stop, prevent the investigation. And the way he did that was threaten to withhold money, aid to Ukraine, if Ukraine didnt fire the prosecutor.

THIS IS VIGOROUSLY DISPUTED. REPUTABLE SOURCES MAINTAUN IT WAS EXACTLY THE OPPOSITE OF WHAT YOUNHAVE BEEN TOLD

6. The free everything for everyone 100 Trillion dollar GREEN NEW DEAL.

OF WHICH BIDEN HAS SAIDNHE DOESN'T ENDORSE

Biden, and Democrats, Liberals, were, are the worse of the 2 evils.

ACCORDING TO THE SOURCES YOU ARE INFORMED BY

And as such its not good for conservatives, republicans, liberatarians, independents, moderates, centrist, etc, to have voted Biden, democrat, etc, to spite the GOP, Trump, etc.

IF YOU SAY SO

That said, if Trump had won, I would be hoping that he would be impeached, and Pence take over, until maybe Ben Carson, etc, hopefully a better, more reasonable candidate hopefully gets elected.

UM...OKAY

But since Biden won, hopefully the GOP retains control over the senate to stop the 100 trillion dollar Green New Deal.

If Democrats control the whitehouse AND the Senate, AND the SUPREME COURT AND a majority of STATE legislatures, governor seats, etc, this country would be DOOMED and I would then want to move to another country.

WELL THE6 WON'T, SO REST EASY, BIG FELLA.

Taihtsat
 
The democrat party has been HIJACKED by the AOC, ACORN, BLACK PANTHERS, ANTIFA, BLACK LIVES MATTER, socialist, marxist, communist, etc, who if they had their way, they would turn the USA into Venezuala.

Yes their are white supremacist, racist, etc, that are in the minority of the GOP, and have been marginalized.

Yes the Trump faction has taken over the GOP.

But the Trump Faction, and the marginalized racist in the minority are not as bad as Antifa, Black Panther, communist, etc.

The Cold War has been replaced.

There is a new COLD WAR.

Its a political war between the CAPITALIST, constitutionalist, Liberty loving people, and against the SOCIALIST, MARXIST, COMMUNIST.

This war is in the USA.

If the political war is lost, to the Socialist, Marxist, Communist:

The USA will become the new Venezuala, the New Socialist, Marxist, Communist, Soviet States of America.l, or the CSSA(Communist Soviet States of America)

Russia, the Soviet Union have smartened up.

They know the way to defeat america is to NOT fight a cold war, or a war.

They know the way to defeat america is from within via a war of ideas, etc, by influencing the political system, by politically supporting groups like Antifa, Black Panthers, etc, and encouraging them, until the USA becomes like Venezuala, and becomes the New Russian, Soviet Union communist in arms ally.

Omg...please stop...Just stop. Taihtsat
 
When you wrap yourself in the flag does it keep you warm? I have always chuckled when I hear that the collective "we love America" and we are more American than you.

Honest question, is there anything more "fascist" than trying to overturn an election without the proper evidence presented in the court of law. I am all for overturning an election if Rudy goes on record in a court of law and says there was fraud. Unfortunately, Rudy has lost his touch in the court room, won't assert in the courtroom fraud existed. Just strange stuff.
Crying "Rigged", "Fraud", Trying to overturn election without proof, when the 6-3 conservative supreme court has ruled the election valid, is NOT the way to fight Antifa, Black Panthers, socialist, marxist, xommunist, liberal democrats, etc.

The right way is to try and persuade the voters to rightly support capitalism, constitution, liberty, etc.

If the voters want to vote for socialism, communism, marxism, antifa, black panthers, etc, then thats sad, unfortunate, and could destroy the USA, but be that is it may, you still dont try to overturn that without proof.

The only thing as bad, worse then socialism, marxism, communism, antifa, black panthers, etc, is, are dictators, fascist, people that want to overthrow, overturn even BAD election results, without proof and destroy the freedom, liberty of the voters, people.

People, voters have free will, Free Agency, that is their right, and given them by God, and that the constitution, govt trys to protect.

That means that if voters, people want to vote in such a way that would destroy the USA, then that is their right to vote that way, and no one has the right to interfere with that.
 
Are you really minimizing the existence and severity of racism in this country? “Most people are racist and it’s worse elsewhere, so it’s not really a big deal here.” YOU’RE the moderator? Certainly sounds like somebody with a “badge,” out patrolling.

This board is infested with old, conservative, bigotry. Good god, what a cesspool.

Ban me if you will, Officer Chauvin.

Yes, I am minimizing the existence and severity of racism in this country. Yes, I think racism and culturalism is normal. Yes, I think the media overemphasizes racism, particularly white vs. black racism in this country. Yes, I am an Italian American, originally from the Boston hood. My family is from Lawrence, MA. Look it up. It makes Rainer Beach look like a destination city. Our perspective on racism is different than yours.

No, I am not an old, conservative bigot. No, I’m not a moderator. No, I don’t think any race, religion, or ethnicity is “better” than any other.

Yes, in 1965, 24% of black children were born to single Mothers. Today, that number is approaching 75%. The number is 48% for Hispanics, 35% for whites, and less than 20% for Asians. Yes, there are conflicting rationales for this. No, America is not more racist today than it was in 1965. Yes, those statistical “rankings” are directly correlated to literacy and academic attainment by race. 1) Asian, 2) White, 3) Hispanic, 4) Black.

Yes, cultualism and family unity plays a significant role in determining a child’s (any child’s) social class of destiny. Yes, racism remains an issue in America. Yes, racism as it relates to the African American community, is more about culture than it is about race.
 
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I feel like I’m listening to a bunch of Ferris Buehlers teachers having a political debate in the staff lounge...and Mik is the girl who heard a rumor about Ferris passing out at 31 Flavors.
 
Highlighting? Yep..agreed. Kind of like saying so and so should be banned from the board for bad behavior and not doing anything about it when you are the moderator.

Who’s done more? Or for longer? Tom Cotton? Ratcliffe?
 
Who’s done more? Or for longer? Tom Cotton? Ratcliffe?

What has he done? I mean seriously. Raised awareness? Sure. Got us in a trade war that he wont be able to oversee. (because they can outlast us because of the election process). In the trade war our costs for the products in most cases have gone up. And we have had to subsidize the farmers. More liberal people than me would call that socialism.

He also met with Kim in N Korea. I applaud the effort, hate the follow through.
 
What has he done? I mean seriously. Raised awareness? Sure. Got us in a trade war that he wont be able to oversee. (because they can outlast us because of the election process). In the trade war our costs for the products in most cases have gone up. And we have had to subsidize the farmers. More liberal people than me would call that socialism.

He also met with Kim in N Korea. I applaud the effort, hate the follow through.

You obviously have no idea how farming works. It is and has been greatly subsidized for a long time.

The trade war is more than anyone else has done. Most of the presidents drop their pants because US corporations will sell their souls for access to the China market and make campaign contributions accordingly.
 
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You obviously have no idea how farming works. It is and has been greatly subsidized for a long time.

The trade war is more than anyone else has done. Most of the presidents drop their pants because US corporations will sell their souls for access to the China market and make campaign contributions accordingly.

I understand how farming works......my brother-in-law works about 5000 acres a year......and he is the biggest hypocrite that I know when it comes to "socialism". He accepts tens of thousands and sometimes hundreds of thousands of dollars in a year from government subsidies but he's the first one to bitch about people in urban communities getting any kind of assistance to make ends meet.

EDIT: just wanted to add that while there are aspects of Trump's trade war that I did agree with, he did the typical Trump thing and took everything too far. He's so worried about "the greatest eva!" that he messes things up. And it was incredibly hypocritical for him to bitch about other countries subsidizing businesses and industries while he was doing the same thing here.
 
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You obviously have no idea how farming works. It is and has been greatly subsidized for a long time.

The trade war is more than anyone else has done. Most of the presidents drop their pants because US corporations will sell their souls for access to the China market and make campaign contributions accordingly.

What is it that I don't know about farming? Yes, they have received "subsidies" forever. Just not to prop up income from a self induced trade war. Truth be told, "subsidy" is the class book definition of "socialism". So is PPP, TARP, auto bailouts, etc.

Not sure why people just aren't honest about it.
 
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