ICE, Greenland, etc. - this is getting so bad

[Stretch 74]

If I’m making a leap of logic then why did you justify the illegal deportation of this man from El Salvador with the murder of two white girls by men from South America?

“With at least thousands, and possibly millions, of illegal alien gang members and criminals in our country”

Possibly Millions? WTF? Have you lost your mind?

Fun fact: Immigrants/migrants/illegals have lower crime rate than US citizens. I’d point you to two government sites that publish the data but the Trump regime has scrubbed them clean. Probably to keep the likes of you in hysterics over murdering and raping alien gang members.

The mythical tie between immigration and crime

Research by Stanford’s Ran Abramitzky and co-authors uncovers the most extensive evidence to date that immigrants are less likely to be imprisoned than U.S.-born individuals.

siepr.stanford.edu

https://www.npr.org/2024/03/08/1237103158/immigrants-are-less-likely-to-commit-crimes-than-us-born-americans-studies-find

“is it your position that we should just let every one of those them stay here and continue with their criminal enterprises just to protect the POSSIBILITY that someone that is not a gang member/criminal gets accidentally deported?”

Wow. Just wow. What you are saying is deeply disturbing. And truly bigoted. We are a nation of laws that protect the rights of individuals. There is a legal process in place that has been circumvented. You are advocating for lawlessness by the government. You sound like a pitchman for Fascism.

From previous post:
"I am not down with illegally deporting illegal migrants, I am absolutely in favor of legally deporting illegal aliens that are not good people. And I don't give a shit what their skin color is! Can you liberals EVER come up with an argument that isn't about race?"

Is there really millions? Probably not, I agree, but why are you trying to pull off the typical liberal trick of leaving off critical details? I specifically said gang members AND criminals, yet you only bolded gang members as if they are the only ones to consider. There ARE criminals that are not gang members, so we need to consider both groups. Also, you are obviously trying to grant illegal aliens the same rights and privileges as US citizens, which they are NOT entitled to. The left has been trying to conflate legal immigrants with illegal immigrants for years, but will not do that.

If you are so concerned with following the law and its processes, are you upset at all with all of the federal district judges overstepping their authority by implementing nationwide injunctions outside of their district and imposing restrictions on people that are not party to the issue before them? You should be.

Edit: I was actually wrong when I said there probably were not millions of criminals. Fact is that every one of those aliens that entered the country illegally IS a criminal simply as a result of the way that they entered our country. Thus millions of illegal aliens in our country is correct.

 

[UberCougars]

You are making this harder than it is.

 

[WillieThePimp]

There is also this:

The Atlantic Caught Pushing Another Anti-Trump Hoax Story

pjmedia.com

Oh Lordy… and the hits keep coming. This is the so-called National Security Advisor at it again.

Waltz and staff used Gmail for government communications, officials say​

Members of President Donald Trump’s National Security Council, including White House national security adviser Michael Waltz, have conducted government business over personal Gmail accounts, according to documents reviewed by The Washington Post and interviews with three U.S. officials.

Washington Post, 04.01.25

 

[UberCougars]

TDS

 

[Loyal Coug1]

To be honest, I do have him blocked. Same for obs and same for you. I will return to never looking at ignored posts soon enough.

edit to add, Im not surprised uberstupid is a maga dumbass. Only the dumbest of Americans are maga.

I'm not blocked? Yay!

And go get these dipshits Biggsy. I refuse to engage them.

 

[BiggsCoug]

TDS

The only TDS is you. maga hat, maga shirt, maga flag around your neck, maga flags hanging off your truck, dixie land delight blaring on your speakers, literally so soft you have to come to trump’s defense at every comment, swallowing whole all his lies…. and dems have TDS? Get the fck outta here! In fact, get off your knees. You do not have to lick trump’s boots.

 

[WillieThePimp]

From previous post:
"I am not down with illegally deporting illegal migrants, I am absolutely in favor of legally deporting illegal aliens that are not good people. And I don't give a shit what their skin color is! Can you liberals EVER come up with an argument that isn't about race?"

Is there really millions? Probably not, I agree, but why are you trying to pull off the typical liberal trick of leaving off critical details? I specifically said gang members AND criminals, yet you only bolded gang members as if they are the only ones to consider. There ARE criminals that are not gang members, so we need to consider both groups. Also, you are obviously trying to grant illegal aliens the same rights and privileges as US citizens, which they are NOT entitled to. The left has been trying to conflate legal immigrants with illegal immigrants for years, but will not do that.

If you are so concerned with following the law and its processes, are you upset at all with all of the federal district judges overstepping their authority by implementing nationwide injunctions outside of their district and imposing restrictions on people that are not party to the issue before them? You should be.

“I specifically said gang members AND criminals”

Hair splitting. Neat. Well duh, why do you think I posted the links about crime committed by immigrants? They show that you have been brainwashed and emotionally hijacked as to the danger of migrants.

“Also, you are obviously trying to grant illegal aliens the same rights and privileges as US citizens, which they are NOT entitled to.”

What? Now you’re just making shit up. I never said that. That being said:

1. Migrants do have legal rights but obviously not the same as US citizens.

2. This man was a legal migrant whose legal rights were ignored by The Trump administration in order to stoke fear and feelings of retribution in people brainwashed into being frightened that illegal criminals and gang members with brown skin will come to rape and murder their daughters.

“federal district judges overstepping their authority”

Cite examples and legal explanations as to how have they have overstepped their authority. And no citing of any nonsense articles from the crazy crackpot rightwing nutter websites that you so love to infect your brain with.

 

[Loyal Coug1]

Oh Lordy… and the hits keep coming. This is the so-called National Security Advisor at it again.

Waltz and staff used Gmail for government communications, officials say​

Members of President Donald Trump’s National Security Council, including White House national security adviser Michael Waltz, have conducted government business over personal Gmail accounts, according to documents reviewed by The Washington Post and interviews with three U.S. officials.

Washington Post, 04.01.25

This, while scary, is pretty funny. All these years of "Hillary's server". On and on and on. Well $5 sez her server was safer than freaking Gmail.

 

[Observer11]

So…you’re suggesting we “increase our interests” like Sadaam tried to do in Kuwait?

News flash for you. Russia has territory in the Arctic, we have Alaska. So they can build away on their own land with nobody telling them otherwise.

Again, I have no problem with the U.S. negotiating with Greenland and/or Canada for security or resource conditions. That’s diplomacy. Telling Canada they are going to be our 51st state and telling Greenland we are gonna come take over isn’t. You are making this way harder than it is. No legitimate developed world leader makes threats like this. This is Kim Jong Un BS, and makes the US look small and petty, not strong and mighty. That’s Trump. That’s what you twats voted for.

Didn't say that.

Why is it wrong for the US to expand its presence in Greenland thru military bases and extraction/development opportunities under Trump but it's been ok for the better part of 80+ years to expand 800+ military bases around the world and extraction opportunities in the Middle East?

I said at one point Trump says Trumpy stuff. That's part of his schtick. If you're negotiating with someone, start with the moon and ease back to what you really want. That's how business is done.

Never buy or sell a house?

 

[UberCougars]

“I specifically said gang members AND criminals”

Hair splitting. Neat. Well duh, why do you think I posted the links about crime committed by immigrants? They show that you have been brainwashed and emotionally hijacked as to the danger of migrants.

“Also, you are obviously trying to grant illegal aliens the same rights and privileges as US citizens, which they are NOT entitled to.”

What? Now you’re just making shit up. I never said that. That being said:

1. Migrants do have legal rights but obviously not the same as US citizens.

2. This man was a legal migrant whose legal rights were ignored by The Trump administration in order to stoke fear and feelings of retribution in people brainwashed into being frightened that illegal criminals and gang members with brown skin will come to rape and murder their daughters.

“federal district judges overstepping their authority”

Cite examples and legal explanations as to how have they have overstepped their authority. And no citing of any nonsense articles from the crazy crackpot rightwing nutter websites that you so love to infect your brain with.

The only TDS is you. maga hat, maga shirt, maga flag around your neck, maga flags hanging off your truck, dixie land delight blaring on your speakers, literally so soft you have to come to trump’s defense at every comment, swallowing whole all his lies…. and dems have TDS? Get the fck outta here! In fact, get off your knees. You do not have to lick trump’s boots.

Whatever calms your feelers, Cupcake.

 

[BiggsCoug]

Whatever calms your feelers, Cupcake.

Get off your knees sheep.

 

[Coug90]

You are making this harder than it is.

You are making the quote button harder than it is.

 

[Coug90]

Didn't say that.

Why is it wrong for the US to expand its presence in Greenland thru military bases and extraction/development opportunities under Trump but it's been ok for the better part of 80+ years to expand 800+ military bases around the world and extraction opportunities in the Middle East?

I said at one point Trump says Trumpy stuff. That's part of his schtick. If you're negotiating with someone, start with the moon and ease back to what you really want. That's how business is done.

Never buy or sell a house?

Yes several.

Your Example…

Trump: if you don’t sell it to me at the price I want I’m just gonna break in and squat.

Again. This isn’t negotiating and Trumps shown to be a shitty negotiator. So to your point I guess this is what we should expect? Or…and hear me out here…you could have someone competent in place who has a F’n clue what they are doing and they can ACTUALLY negotiate.

 

[CougEd]

You know who else cannot return? Jocelyn Nungary, Laken Riley, and the others that have been killed by the terrorist gang members that entered our country while Joe Clueless welcomed them with open arms.

Or Anthony McClanahan's wife. Did you have this sympathy when the Orange Doge Whacker lied and said their eating our pets, putting kids and parents at risk in Ohio. Simply amazing to me...how many died in Uvalde? But illegals killed three or four and we somehow see the imbalance ....unreal.

 

[CougEd]

That is a tremendous leap of logic you just made there, hope you didn't hurt yourself. Are you down with letting all sorts of murderers, rapists, drug dealers, and sex traffickers freely enter our country and stay here no matter what activities they are involved in?

I am not down with illegally deporting illegal migrants, I am absolutely in favor of legally deporting illegal aliens that are not good people. And I don't give a shit what their skin color is! Can you liberals EVER come up with an argument that isn't about race?

With at least thousands, and possibly millions, of illegal alien gang members and criminals in our country, is it your position that we should just let every one of those them stay here and continue with their criminal enterprises just to protect the POSSIBILITY that someone that is not a gang member/criminal gets accidentally deported?

Agent Orange was found liable for rape...not sure that is a crime anymore. And he is not brown nor illegal ...maybe that is why it is ok???

 

[BleedCrimsonandGray]

I think the bottom line here is that some posters dislike the United States acting like a superpower.

ding ding ding!

Anything other than being the world's cuck and the US is just a big fascist bully.

 

[Loyal Coug1]

From previous post:
"I am not down with illegally deporting illegal migrants, I am absolutely in favor of legally deporting illegal aliens that are not good people. And I don't give a shit what their skin color is! Can you liberals EVER come up with an argument that isn't about race?"

Is there really millions? Probably not, I agree, but why are you trying to pull off the typical liberal trick of leaving off critical details? I specifically said gang members AND criminals, yet you only bolded gang members as if they are the only ones to .

I actually agree with everything above. Just trying to reconcile this with the masked abduction of this Tufts PhD student. And she's not the only one. So have we already gotten all the bad people and criminal gang members and now we are down to deporting students who expressed their opinions?

This is like the movie Magnum Force. You know the one with renegade motorcycle cops gunning down crooks. I paraphrase Dirty Harry - "what's next? Executing people for jaywalking?".

MSN

 

[Observer11]

Yes several.

Your Example…

Trump: if you don’t sell it to me at the price I want I’m just gonna break in and squat.

Again. This isn’t negotiating and Trumps shown to be a shitty negotiator. So to your point I guess this is what we should expect? Or…and hear me out here…you could have someone competent in place who has a F’n clue what they are doing and they can ACTUALLY negotiate.

Trump is trolling you and Canada by saying Trumpy things.

As per usual, many fine people latch on to a word or a soundbite and try to make it reality. There's never going to be any invasion. I'll log off this forum and never return if the US invades Canada pre-emptively.

If the cheeseheads loft some maple syrup bombs across the boarder, then we have to defend ourselves.

 

[Coug90]

Trump is trolling you and Canada by saying Trumpy things.

As per usual, many fine people latch on to a word or a soundbite and try to make it reality. There's never going to be any invasion. I'll log off this forum and never return if the US invades Canada pre-emptively.

If the cheeseheads loft some maple syrup bombs across the boarder, then we have to defend ourselves.

Ok cool. So with that logic if I roll up to you and the Mrs having a nice dinner outside and I tell her she’s a cnt and I’m gonna F her in the ass, you should just chuckle because I’m just trolling you? I mean he’s not gonna do it honey he’s just trolling, have another bite of your pasta he’ll go away. JFC dude, you are smarter than this. Uber, not so much.

 

[BiggsCoug]

Ok cool. So with that logic if I roll up to you and the Mrs having a nice dinner outside and I tell her she’s a cnt and I’m gonna F her in the ass, you should just chuckle because I’m just trolling you? I mean he’s not gonna do it honey he’s just trolling, have another bite of your pasta he’ll go away. JFC dude, you are smarter than this. Uber, not so much.

He isnt smarter than this. He is explainging away threats of invasion as “mean tweets.” Take him at his word. He really is this fcking stupid. And no, he wont do anything when you call his wife a ****.

 

[CougEd]

He isnt smarter than this. He is explainging away threats of invasion as “mean tweets.” Take him at his word. He really is this fcking stupid. And no, he wont do anything when you call his wife a ****.

Oh you learn when he says he is building a wall, or getting healthcare in order or inflation, dont listen to those sound bites. When it involves his own personal interest better take him seriously. Like getting revenge, finding a way for another term .

Dems are going to a gun fight with a butter knife.

Obama should have been VP for Joe . Just as Trump will do for Vance but they want to play within the intent of legislation. Plain dumb

 

[BiggsCoug]

I'm not blocked? Yay!

And go get these dipshits Biggsy. I refuse to engage them.

You are blocked. You’re a shitbag too.

 

[BiggsCoug]

Oh you learn when he says he is building a wall, or getting healthcare in order or inflation, dont listen to those sound bites. When it involves his own personal interest better take him seriously. Like getting revenge, finding a way for another term .

Dems are going to a gun fight with a butter knife.

Obama should have been VP for Joe . Just as Trump will do for Vance but they want to play within the intent of legislation. Plain dumb

maga is for the dumbest of Americans. Build the wall, failed. Healthcare, failed. Trade war with China, lost. January 6th, please tell me more about law and order while doing nothing to stop rioters and then letting domestic terrorists out of prison. What a crock of shit maga is.

Cant wait to see liberation day. Will it be more gold cards for sale? Two for the price of one! Maybe teslas on the White House lawn again?More tariffs? Cause that’s how you make America great again, tariff the fck outta all your trade partners so Americans pay more!

 

[Observer11]

Ok cool. So with that logic if I roll up to you and the Mrs having a nice dinner outside and I tell her she’s a cnt and I’m gonna F her in the ass, you should just chuckle because I’m just trolling you? I mean he’s not gonna do it honey he’s just trolling, have another bite of your pasta he’ll go away. JFC dude, you are smarter than this. Uber, not so much.

I am smarter than this and don't come up with Ed-like analogies to explain Trump's behavior.

Trump knows exactly what he's doing.

 

[Stretch 74]

Oh Lordy… and the hits keep coming. This is the so-called National Security Advisor at it again.

Waltz and staff used Gmail for government communications, officials say​

Members of President Donald Trump’s National Security Council, including White House national security adviser Michael Waltz, have conducted government business over personal Gmail accounts, according to documents reviewed by The Washington Post and interviews with three U.S. officials.

Washington Post, 04.01.25

I thought that this was all explained away back with Cankles email server and three cell phones that it was okay to do this. But NOW you wish to change the location of the goalposts? Nice!

BTW, I have to ask, since I don't have a subscription to WAPO, did they do any classified business? Just curious, because Clinton's server was confirmed to have classified info on it, despite her lies she did NOT have it approved, and it was almost certain to have been hacked.

 

[cr8zyncalif]

Learn but the variables change over 85+years.

Are you implying one side is morally superior to the other?

In short, the answer to your question is "Yes". I don't care how cynical you are, you can't compare the two sides...despite Trump's bluster to the contrary. Trying visiting the Gulag. Are we clean and blameless? Of course not. It is easy to point at a half dozen bad things we've done without even having to think hard, and remembering the internment camps, "manifest destiny" treatment of the native Americans, etc., is useful because it keeps our own mistakes front of mind. But the cold war era existed as a result of the Soviet Union gobbling up Eastern Europe as Germany collapsed, and Vladimir is unhappy that they eventually lost those territories. He will take them back if he thinks he can get away with it. And their citizens (at least the ones that I've known) would laugh at an assertion that one side is NOT morally superior to the other.

 

[BiggsCoug]

I am smarter than this and don't come up with Ed-like analogies to explain Trump's behavior.

Trump knows exactly what he's doing.

Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

you are not smart at all. you are a cult member.

 

[Stretch 74]

“I specifically said gang members AND criminals”

Hair splitting. Neat. Well duh, why do you think I posted the links about crime committed by immigrants? They show that you have been brainwashed and emotionally hijacked as to the danger of migrants.

“Also, you are obviously trying to grant illegal aliens the same rights and privileges as US citizens, which they are NOT entitled to.”

What? Now you’re just making shit up. I never said that. That being said:

1. Migrants do have legal rights but obviously not the same as US citizens.

2. This man was a legal migrant whose legal rights were ignored by The Trump administration in order to stoke fear and feelings of retribution in people brainwashed into being frightened that illegal criminals and gang members with brown skin will come to rape and murder their daughters.

“federal district judges overstepping their authority”

Cite examples and legal explanations as to how have they have overstepped their authority. And no citing of any nonsense articles from the crazy crackpot rightwing nutter websites that you so love to infect your brain with.

1. When so many municipalities make no effort to collect data about immigrants (legal or illegal) how can any study be trusted? Have you ever seen the stats on violent crimes by country? I have, and those countries to the south of the US have rates much greater than the US rates, so you really think that those countries are sending the US only their finest, most upstanding citizens so they won't affect the crime rates in the US. Have another 32 ounce mug of the KoolAid.

2. When you do not distinguish between legal and illegal immigrants, the obvious deduction is that you are doing so purposely in order to conflate the two. That is what the left has done for a long time any time the discussion turns to immigration and control of it.

3. Do you think it is appropriate for district judges to be imposing injunctions the entire country rather than focusing a ruling on specific person or group that brings an issue to them? When the law gives the president specific authority over who is and who is not allowed to be in our country, you think having district court judges telling the president he cannot deport someone is appropriate? You think it is appropriate to have a district court judge tell the SecDef that they cannot enforce disqualifying mental disorders from military enlistment? WTF?

Just to bring you completely up to speed, you have absolutely no right or ability to tell me what I can and cannot post or link here!!! I will continue to think what I want and I will post whatever I want whether you like it or not.

Pay attention to the very intelligent Senator Kennedy as he lays out how the system is supposed to work.

https://www.wsj.com/opinion/why-boa...-politics-injunction-bonds-8bd0f495?st=Bqbv7F

WATCH: Sen. John Kennedy Destroys Nationwide Injunctions

pjmedia.com

 

[Stretch 74]

Agent Orange was found liable for rape...not sure that is a crime anymore. And he is not brown nor illegal ...maybe that is why it is ok???

You are wrong. He was found liable for sexual assault by the jury. The one judge incorrectly referred to it with the word rape, and IIRC, that was what got Little Georgie Snuffluffelgus in trouble for repeating the rape claim. Didn't ABC have to pay out some $$$ for that little episode?

 

[CougEd]

1. When so many municipalities make no effort to collect data about immigrants (legal or illegal) how can any study be trusted? Have you ever seen the stats on violent crimes by country? I have, and those countries to the south of the US have rates much greater than the US rates, so you really think that those countries are sending the US only their finest, most upstanding citizens so they won't affect the crime rates in the US. Have another 32 ounce mug of the KoolAid.

2. When you do not distinguish between legal and illegal immigrants, the obvious deduction is that you are doing so purposely in order to conflate the two. That is what the left has done for a long time any time the discussion turns to immigration and control of it.

3. Do you think it is appropriate for district judges to be imposing injunctions the entire country rather than focusing a ruling on specific person or group that brings an issue to them? When the law gives the president specific authority over who is and who is not allowed to be in our country, you think having district court judges telling the president he cannot deport someone is appropriate? You think it is appropriate to have a district court judge tell the SecDef that they cannot enforce disqualifying mental disorders from military enlistment? WTF?

Just to bring you completely up to speed, you have absolutely no right or ability to tell me what I can and cannot post or link here!!! I will continue to think what I want and I will post whatever I want whether you like it or not.

Pay attention to the very intelligent Senator Kennedy as he lays out how the system is supposed to work.

https://www.wsj.com/opinion/why-boa...-politics-injunction-bonds-8bd0f495?st=Bqbv7F

WATCH: Sen. John Kennedy Destroys Nationwide Injunctions

pjmedia.com

You mean like the judge who held up the student loan forgiveness .

 

[Coug90]

I am smarter than this and don't come up with Ed-like analogies to explain Trump's behavior.

Trump knows exactly what he's doing.

Ok fine. You’d let Trump call your wife a cnt and F her in the ass…am I a little closer now?

 

[Coug90]

You are wrong. He was found liable for sexual assault by the jury. The one judge incorrectly referred to it with the word rape, and IIRC, that was what got Little Georgie Snuffluffelgus in trouble for repeating the rape claim. Didn't ABC have to pay out some $$$ for that little episode?

Wonder if you’d be splitting these same hairs if this was your daughter. Eh…probably.

 

[Stretch 74]

You mean like the judge who held up the student loan forgiveness .

Actually, the unlawful plan of Biden was originally challenged in District court and was dismissed by that judge. It was then appealed to Circuit Court and then ruled on by the Supreme Court. Biden then tried other shenanigans in attempts to give the finger to the SC, they failed also.

https://fedsoc.org/commentary/fedsoc-blog/the-student-loan-forgiveness-saga-how-the-litigation-played-out-and-what-s-next

 

[Stretch 74]

Wonder if you’d be splitting these same hairs if this was your daughter. Eh…probably.

I would like to be just as accurate if it was either your daughter that was attacked or if it was you doing the attacking. Words have meaning.

 

[Observer11]

Ok fine. You’d let Trump call your wife a cnt and F her in the ass…am I a little closer now?

Now you're venturing into Biggs absurdity.

 

[BiggsCoug]

Now you're venturing into Biggs absurdity.

Not nearly as absurd as you equating trump’s invasion of Greenland to “mean tweets.”

maga cult is the dumbest of Americans. Congrats on your membership.

 

[Observer11]

Not nearly as absurd as you equating trump’s invasion of Greenland to “mean tweets.”

maga cult is the dumbest of Americans. Congrats on your membership.

Trump isn't invading Greenland. And this whole 'cult' thing is 'literally Hitler" all over again.

That's the pablum you all keep falling for. It gets repeated enough and then it becomes fact in your respective brains. Or lack thereof.

 

[BiggsCoug]

Trump isn't invading Greenland. And this whole 'cult' thing is 'literally Hitler" all over again.

That's the pablum you all keep falling for. It gets repeated enough and then it becomes fact in your respective brains. Or lack thereof.

You are a low iq individual. Im sad for you and our nation because of the many like you.

maga is the dumbest of Americans. You are one of them.

 

[Observer11]

You are a low iq individual. Im sad for you and our nation because of the many like you.

maga is the dumbest of Americans. You are one of them.

Do you actually do anything but name call?

I'm willing to match IQ, GPA, professional certifications, W2 any day of the week - but your inability to engage in civil dialog is without peer.

Elon Musk is the dumbest of Americans. Got it.

 

[BiggsCoug]

Do you actually do anything but name call?

I'm willing to match IQ, GPA, professional certifications, W2 any day of the week - but your inability to engage in civil dialog is without peer.

Elon Musk is the dumbest of Americans. Got it.

Do you actually think for yourself?

Im still waiting for your professional language on threatening invasion of a nation to gain control of their resources.

Funny how you just cant handle someone calling names but invading a nation is ok. trump calling names is ok. Hell anything trump does is ok by you. But the decor of a msg board, clutches pearls, is just too much. You’re a snowflake. Get off your knees sheep.

Show me your best seig heil. Just like your boy Elon.

Tell me you’re a nazi without telling me you’re a nazi obs. Elon Musk bought the oval office and you champion him? Wow. You’re a fcking idiot.

You’d lose the iq test.