Off the top of my head, send kids back to school and quarantine old people.
Crazy, I know to have the least probable at risk demographic resume ‘life”. And keep those susceptible sheltered in place.
Just ridiculous
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Off the top of my head, send kids back to school and quarantine old people.
Crazy, I know to have the least probable at risk demographic resume ‘life”. And keep those susceptible sheltered in place.
Shame on you for bringing logic into this thread!
Who do you think works at school? Who do those children go home to?.
I would love nothing more than for my kids to go back to school, but at this point there are still too many unknowns about how kids spread the disease to simply say "hey! let's possibly create a whole new transmission vector!" so that we can appease Observer11 on the internet.
I just don't see that anywhere in this:
Cases, Data, and Surveillance
Cases, data, and surveillance to track and analyze COVID-19.
I just feel that citing projections from March (out of date) for this current discussion about how individual states are handling this under the suspicion of playing politics is not applicable, particularly when the white house and the cdc don't use that modeling. Taihtsat
Look, I spent a couple of hours researching and reading the paper from the german firm that came up with the $12BB figure, so I'm not going to rehash it all here for you - its all out there.I just don't see that anywhere in this:
Cases, Data, and Surveillance
Cases, data, and surveillance to track and analyze COVID-19.www.cdc.gov
What I will do is say that the research paper stated that they used the CDCs cited numbers AND their methods for presumptive data (I would assume the method they use to come up with "actual" amount of flu cases every year) to extrapolate the existing data. In other words, there is no hard evidence that Sturgis cost $12BB in healthcare, its a number based on a model.
As far as the 1MM predicted dead, it appears as though all the models have been corrected for the lack of deaths, but I am 100% certain that in the May/ June timeframe there was information that was plotting out for 1MM deaths in the US. I'll see if I can find it.
The projected number for US deaths from the Imperial College back in March was 2.2 million with no mitigation efforts. With mitigation efforts it was 1.1-1.2 million.
Make your check payable to "Church Of Inslee" and mark it 'tithe'.
Obviously, you're not interested in any other solution that what Jay mandates.
If that's the case, why use the same tactics?
New information, new decision, new strategy.
Open it up to the least at risk. Lock down the most at-risk. Gather data, compile results. Either keep doing it or adjust again.
God forbid actually using the scientific method.
I was at Sturgis. Tested negative once returned. I wouldnt say that my thoughts on the virus changed entirely.... but if anyone was gonna get it at that event it was me. And I didnt.
I think a lot of people are scrambling to figure it out and how to handle it. I dont think a vaccine is going to solve the problem.
I think a lot of people are scrambling to figure it out and how to handle it. I dont think a vaccine is going to solve the problem.
So you actually have no substantive solutions to propose, just partisan name calling. Color me shocked.
Well, we are nearly 20% of the way there. And that report was not peer reviewed at the time of publication - so I'm not going to use it as being incorrect as a gauge that we should just move on.
It was the first study that shaped policy decisions, regardless of whether it was peer reviewed.
Send the kids back to school. Lock down the old people. How much more substantive/simple is it than that?
What is the cut off for old people?
Are you going to fire or pay the old people who work at the schools?
What about the old people who care for school aged children?
Or parents with health conditions that put them at high risk?
A very large portion of the country that is over 50 years old is at risk here. So you are vastly over simplifying a very complex problem with a ton of unknowns.
Inslee based his numbers on reopening on these “scientific” data studies that weren’t peer reviewed. 25 cases per 100K to go phase 4 is mathematically unobtainable. That is a .00025 infection rate, which means the virus is non existent. That will never happen. We’ll never go back to normal if that is the expectation, even with a vaccine.
I respect trying to maintain the virus and protecting the vernable, but inslee’s is being completely unreasonable on some things.
Smartest thing he / she has ever uttered.
‘You are ignoring content by this member’
Feel free to post your alternate solutions. Or do you just want to live in "We can't do this land" and spend the remainder of your life indoors? I don't. Enough with pandering to the 5% on either end of the spectrum - all your what if's disregard 90%+ of people to whom they don't apply.
Status quo is going to get your to all your worst-case what-ifs eventually. Why take the rest of the country down with you?
There are those who lived in exception world on every single idea ever presented to mankind. Thank god real 'progressives' don't. They look to innovate and get out of whatever crap situation they are mired in.
Classic moving of the goal posts here. You piss and moan and when challenged you shift directions.
If you think protecting baby boomers, who currently control most of the economic activity in this country, is pandering to 5% of the spectrum, then you truly are living in a fantasy land.
Way to deflect. So, you have no issues with him setting a number to open up completely is a percentage that is mathematically impossible to get to?
King county is limited with what they can do, we still can’t go to movies and among other things. My issue is his goal is to have .00025 infection rate to open up completely. Even my scientist friends believe that is an impossible number to obtain.
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Insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results. Insanity is a 1 size fits all aproach, every single time.
As bad as Bi Polar Trump has been with going back and forth, flip flopping, mixing, competancy, uncompetancy, good things, bad things, false; true, etc, on Covid, and everything else, etc.
Jay Inslee has been just as bad. He has his "Experts", Advisors, and wont listen to anybody else.
He has a 1 size fits all mentality.
He does the same things over and over and expects different results.
He is RIPPING the CONSTITUTION(BOTH WA CONSTITUTION AND USA CONSTITUTION)(Thanks Supreme Court(NOT)(Kavanagh, And Gorsuch gave the most scorching dissent in Supreme Court history, explained that Nevada, Las Vegas, cant stop people from holding religous gatherings, exercising their religeon, since those people are following the states gathering rules, taking the official safety precautions. He also said the city, state lets movie theaters, bowling alley's, casinos, bars, etc, gather shoulder to shoulder, singing, etc, with 500 to 1500 people, and thats ok, but its not ok to for churches to hold gathering of 50 to 100 SPREAD OUT, singing, worshipping. He said thats FAVORITISM, HYPOCRISY, DISCRIMINATION by the city, state. He said in no world is it ok in the USA Constitution for Nevada, Las Vegas, or any other place in the USA to do what Nevada, Las Vegas is doing, no matter what tbe other supreme court justices say, The USA Constitution forbids it, PERIOD)(Paraphrased).
Inslee has locked everything down, and enforcing it. And his 4 phase reopening plan is insanely strict, 1 size fits all, and enforces it.
Inslee has made wearing mask law. Enforces it. Has made that 1 size fits all.
Inslee has put restrictions, limitations on religeous gathering, singing, worshiping, etc, in a 1 size fits all way.
BUT EXCEPTION.
IF your a rioter, protestor, etc, you can gather with as many as want. No Mask required, etc.
If your a protestor, rioter, yoyr allowed to break all the rules that everybody else has to follow.
Thats ok with Inslee, because thats his VOTING BLOCK.And most of them live in the Seattle area, west of the cascades.
Such incompetance, stubborness, his way or highwayness, such hypocrissy, such inequality, such unfairness, such discrimination, such unconstitutionalism, such 1 size fits all ism, except if its rioters, protestors, his voting block.
King Inslee.
Its why I havent seen a Inslee sign on the eastside of the state.
Its why I have seen FREED, CULP signs everywhere throughout eastern washingtion.
Even members of his own party were running against him on the Ballot.
Thats how bad Inslee is.
And his 1 size fits all, except his rioter, protestor voting block approach is soo atupid.
Example:
Lincoln County had 1,2,3 cases(now has about 7 to 15 cases) in all the county. You would think Lincoln County residents wouldnt have to wear mask or be in phase 4, etc.
NOPE.
Despite having the lowest number of cases, deaths(1 Death), hospitalizations, lowest per capita ratios, etc, Lincoln County has regressed from Phase 3 to Phase 2(because of the spike from 1,2,3 cases to 7 to 15 cases(Spike has since stabilized, been at that for a while(But that no matter, still dropped to Phase 2, then went back up to Phase 3(Should be Phase 4(But as has been said, its almost impossible to get to phase 4)
Also Yakima did NOT need Inslee to make these rediculous 1 size fits all laws(except for rioters, protestors, his voting block), because THEY HAD ALREADY PASSED THESE LAWS BEFORE INSLEE MADE IT LAW.
Yakima did that because of how bad the virus is there. It made LOGICAL SENSE for Yakima to do that.
Yakima and Lincoln County, and most Counties, cities KNOW BETTER THEN THE PRESIDENT, GOVERNOR, CONGRESS, etc, what is BEST FOR, IN THOSE COUNTIES, CITIES.
But still Trump, Congress, Inslee, still try to shove round Yakima like Peg, into Lincoln County Square hole.
Its Beyond Stupid.
And anybody who trys to defend that stupidity, is beyond stupid.
Rant Over.
As bad as Bi Polar Trump has been with going back and forth, flip flopping, mixing, competancy, uncompetancy, good things, bad things, false; true, etc, on Covid, and everything else, etc.
Jay Inslee has been just as bad. He has his "Experts", Advisors, and wont listen to anybody else.
He has a 1 size fits all mentality.
He does the same things over and over and expects different results.
He is RIPPING the CONSTITUTION(BOTH WA CONSTITUTION AND USA CONSTITUTION)(Thanks Supreme Court(NOT)(Kavanagh, And Gorsuch gave the most scorching dissent in Supreme Court history, explained that Nevada, Las Vegas, cant stop people from holding religous gatherings, exercising their religeon, since those people are following the states gathering rules, taking the official safety precautions. He also said the city, state lets movie theaters, bowling alley's, casinos, bars, etc, gather shoulder to shoulder, singing, etc, with 500 to 1500 people, and thats ok, but its not ok to for churches to hold gathering of 50 to 100 SPREAD OUT, singing, worshipping. He said thats FAVORITISM, HYPOCRISY, DISCRIMINATION by the city, state. He said in no world is it ok in the USA Constitution for Nevada, Las Vegas, or any other place in the USA to do what Nevada, Las Vegas is doing, no matter what tbe other supreme court justices say, The USA Constitution forbids it, PERIOD)(Paraphrased).
Inslee has locked everything down, and enforcing it. And his 4 phase reopening plan is insanely strict, 1 size fits all, and enforces it.
Inslee has made wearing mask law. Enforces it. Has made that 1 size fits all.
Inslee has put restrictions, limitations on religeous gathering, singing, worshiping, etc, in a 1 size fits all way.
BUT EXCEPTION.
IF your a rioter, protestor, etc, you can gather with as many as want. No Mask required, etc.
If your a protestor, rioter, yoyr allowed to break all the rules that everybody else has to follow.
Thats ok with Inslee, because thats his VOTING BLOCK.And most of them live in the Seattle area, west of the cascades.
Such incompetance, stubborness, his way or highwayness, such hypocrissy, such inequality, such unfairness, such discrimination, such unconstitutionalism, such 1 size fits all ism, except if its rioters, protestors, his voting block.
King Inslee.
Its why I havent seen a Inslee sign on the eastside of the state.
Its why I have seen FREED, CULP signs everywhere throughout eastern washingtion.
Even members of his own party were running against him on the Ballot.
Thats how bad Inslee is.
And his 1 size fits all, except his rioter, protestor voting block approach is soo atupid.
Example:
Lincoln County had 1,2,3 cases(now has about 7 to 15 cases) in all the county. You would think Lincoln County residents wouldnt have to wear mask or be in phase 4, etc.
NOPE.
Despite having the lowest number of cases, deaths(1 Death), hospitalizations, lowest per capita ratios, etc, Lincoln County has regressed from Phase 3 to Phase 2(because of the spike from 1,2,3 cases to 7 to 15 cases(Spike has since stabilized, been at that for a while(But that no matter, still dropped to Phase 2, then went back up to Phase 3(Should be Phase 4(But as has been said, its almost impossible to get to phase 4)
Also Yakima did NOT need Inslee to make these rediculous 1 size fits all laws(except for rioters, protestors, his voting block), because THEY HAD ALREADY PASSED THESE LAWS BEFORE INSLEE MADE IT LAW.
Yakima did that because of how bad the virus is there. It made LOGICAL SENSE for Yakima to do that.
Yakima and Lincoln County, and most Counties, cities KNOW BETTER THEN THE PRESIDENT, GOVERNOR, CONGRESS, etc, what is BEST FOR, IN THOSE COUNTIES, CITIES.
But still Trump, Congress, Inslee, still try to shove round Yakima like Peg, into Lincoln County Square hole.
Its Beyond Stupid.
And anybody who trys to defend that stupidity, is beyond stupid.
Rant Over.
Didn’t move the goalposts a bit. Put the kids back in school and lock down the elderly.
And still no alternative provided other than “Jay say follow science. Must do as Jay say. Jay say deflect and stay locked down. Defend Jay". Well done. Jay fiddles, America burns.
The 5% are the extremists who think a cure is the only way to resume life. The rest of us want and need to get on with life based on risk assessment, data and virtually no chance of dying. Way to twist it to fit your narrative.
Also who runs UNCONSTITUTIONAL, HYPOCRITICAL, etc, Nevada, Las Vegas?
Oh thats right DEMOCRATS.
Doubt that there is a Republican Mayor, Governor doing those same kind of unconstitutional things that WA, CA, Nevada, Las Vegas, Seattle, LA, etc, are doing
Oh thats right DEMOCRATS.
Doubt that there is a Republican Mayor, Governor doing those same kind of unconstitutional things that WA, CA, Nevada, Las Vegas, Seattle, LA, etc, are doing
BINGO. This was never about eradicating COVID. This lockdown was supposed to be about 'flattening the curve' and keeping medical facilities from being overwhelmed.
Medical facilities started furloughing staff in late April/early May. They have been anything but 'overwhelmed'. Inslee himself shut down his massive field hospital after he got his scare tactic/photo op. Nobody ever spent a night there.
Open it up.
What do you want opened that is not currently open? Any type of large indoor gathering (movie theaters, restaurants, etc) has mounting evidence that they are the largest transmitters of the disease. I think it is pretty objectively clear that allowing those to open as they were before is a risk to public health.
Schools are a question mark still as no one really knows the ability for kids to pass it along to their teachers, janitors, and staff that run the schools.
You are crying about having to wear a mask while inside a public place. God forbid you do your small part to help your fellow citizens.
Churches would be a good start. If it's good enough for thee, it's good enough for me.
See also protestors. Or are you one of those selective Constitutional amendment follower guys?
Your premise is also flawed too. "Spreaders of the disease" is relative to the demographics. Who cares if a bunch of 18-23 year olds are behaving like 18-23 year old in Pullman? There's been no appreciable uptick in hospitalizations in either Whitman or Spokane County. Let them get their freak on.
(Sorry Coug parents - that's the fact, jack. The clock tower is still red).
This azzhat is in denial... 96 is just a troll who wants attention. Nothing new from that jack hole.
But we should follow Jay’s example...
Apples Gov. Inslee gifted to fire victims tested positive for apple maggot larvae
UPDATE: 8:39 PM Governor Inslee's office has issued the following statement:
Brings apples to Apple country, while crossing maggot quarantine lines with Apples containing maggots.
True leader.
True leader.
Hey boy, there’s enough turds in this world, don’t be in such a rush to jump on the pile with them.
Movie Theaters, Restaurants, Bars, Schools, Bowling Alley's, Casinos, CAN ALL HAVE LIMITED GSTHERINGS, AND OR HAVE PEOPLE SPACED OUT 10 TO 20 TO 30 FEET, WEARING MASK, AND OTHER PRECAUTIONS.
Because of that they can and should be opened ip.
And like Observer and others have logically said those at higher risk should be locked down, while the rest at either no. Less, goto those gatherings using the CAPITALIZED, required precautions.
Also according to the news, KAVANAUGH, GORSUCH, etc.
Nevada, Las Vegas has Opened Up 500 to 1500 people, LARGE GATHERING casinos, all the places named above.
These places have 500 to 1500 people in them.
Not complaining about that per se, as things should open up
My problem with it:
They dont let church's have 50 to 100 to 150 people All SPACED OUT 10 FEET TO 15 FEET APART EACH, WITH EACH HAVING MASK, TO SING, WORSHIP.
But yet its ok for 1500 people to play blackjack poker at a Casino.
TOTAL DISCRIMINATION, FAVORITISM, HYPOCRISY, UNCONSTITUTIONAL.
And while the Supreme Court WRONGLY EITHER MISINTERPRETED IT, OR WERE PAID OFF OR GOT POLITICAL.
Gorsuch, Kavanaugh RIGHTLY interpreted the Constitution AND POINTED OUT HOW UNCONSTITUTIONAL, HYPOCRITICAL, DISCRIMINATIVE Nevada, Las Vegas is
Whats good for the Goose is Good for the Gander. If Casinos can have 1500 peoplr, Church"s can do it too right?
Wrong not in Nevada, Las Vegas.
And according to KING INSLEE, NOT IN WA EITHER.
INSLEE HAS STEPPED ON SO MANY CONSTITUTIONAL RELIGOUS RIGHTS, JUST LIKE NEVADA, Las Vegas, CA, LA.
CONSISTENCY,
IF YOUR GONA LOCKDOWN EVERYBODY, then you dont let the rioters, protesters NOT BE LOCKED DOWN.
YOU LOCK THEM DOWN TOO.
If you Open it up, you open it up for Church's, etc, too.
CONSISTENCY.
NO, I am not saying to NOT wear a mask.
Questions aside as to whether Mask are bad or not, effective or not(there are a lot of doctors, science, studies, info, that says their not effective, and are bad, and there are other doctors, science, studies, saying they are good,etc)
Wearing a mask might probably be good, can, might probably should be a law in places like YAKIMA, SEATTLE, SPOKANE.
NOT IN PLACES LIKE LINCOLN COUNTY, where for most to almost all this time there was only 1,2,3,4 covid cases, which spiked up to 7 to 13 cases, where the nearest person is 1 mile away.
So NO I am not crying about wearing a mask.
I wear a mask. I have no problem wearing a mask in Spokane.
I do have a problem wearing a mask in the middle of nowhere in Lincoln County.
What was it?
Should't stigmitize cuckholds?
Shouldn't assume cis monogamy?
Misgendering?
Anti-polyamory?
What about "You're the type of person who brings infected apples to your partners gang bang"
