You are right on Flat. I would also argue that certain elements of the Democratic Party have or have tried to move their goalposts too.
Can't stop at just one:
Now that's funny stuff right there, I don't care who ya are!
You are completely ignorant if you think that group of far lefties have zero influence on your life. They are the ones pushing all the free government giveaways and Green New Deal bullshit that is driving the inflation that we ALL are suffering from. Forgive student debt. Covid handouts that were unnecessary. Elimination of all fossil fuels. Mandating electric vehicles. Et cetera, et cetera, etc!
OK I said I was done with this thread. Can't resist though, moth to flame. First Stretch, where's AOC? Second, C'mon. What does Hillary have to do with anything in 2023? And her and Biden are crazy? I mean really? Senile maybe. Never heard of most of the rest.
Do you think [fill in name of whoever you choose here] is further to the right than Goldwater? Remember that you've proven your grasp on politics and history is relatively shallow.
Gibby, not sure how old you are, but I'm quite certain you were not even born yet when Goldwater was in play. Stretch and I were at least alive then. Not sure how you can say his grasp on history is shallow.
You failed to fill in the name of anyone. Feel free to continue your pontification.
The difference is that in general, the mainstream of the Democratic party hasn't let the radicals get as much control and they haven't sold their souls for #winning.
I respectfully disagree. AOC and the Squad may squalor a lot, but are they really affecting much?
Name these free government giveaways and green new deal bullshit programs driven by “the squad” and their corresponding costs and their quantitive impact on inflation.
I'm all for encouraging electric cars, and (maybe) even incentivizing them or taxing ICE's. But this outright ban is BS.
I just had this funny thought. So your wife comes home, ready to plug in. Then aliens land and power is cut. She's stuck. She can't charge up. Good thing you have your ICE.
You gonna suck gas out of the tank at the gas station When there’s no electric power?
At least that's feasible. There's no way to suck electricity out of the grid when the power is cut.
Solar. A lot of folks have solar set ups that are net positive and sell their surplus. There’s storage as well.
No, being a prudent ICE driver you have enough gas in your tank to escape the aliens. And you probably, as do I, have at least a gallon gas can in the garage.
My sister-in-law does just this - her solar panels generate more than enough electricity to charge her Tesla model 3 and power her house with energy to spare.
Yeah my last GF had solar. Didn't pay for electricity 9 months a year and very little during those winter months. She would build up a credit with the power company during the summer months. A ton of houses in YakiVegas are on solar. Conditions are perfect out here.
I have solar and v2l. During the winter it might be tough. If the grid goes down, transport will be the least of anyone’s worries.
In most places with decent sun exposure I think it’s about a 7 year break even or so. With panels lasting about 20 years from what I understand. I’d assume that gap is widening as well…lower BE and longer lasting panels. Of course that doesn’t account for your acts of god or anything v else that could cause damage to them.
Yeah hell they almost should require solar on new construction that has the right exposure. It has come a long, long way.
Well, it already takes 24 hours to charge an EV on a standard household (120V) outlet, even when you have a stable and more or less on-demand supply of energy. If you're running your whole life from your solar panels, you have a finite power supply being divided between multiple uses...so your charge rate is likely to be even lower.
I haven’t heard an update on the sea lion situation for a while but they were protected for quite some time. And yes they had a salmon buffet 24/7 at the dam. To make matters worse, I don’t know what sea Lion tastes like but apparently that northern killer whale pod didn’t eat them and preferred salmon instead. That whole ecosystem seems all sorts of F’d up from a management standpoint.
And international fishing has nothing to do with salmon populations. It's all because of the dams. But only the ones on the Snake. At least until we tear those down...then the ones on the Columbia will be the problem. But not Grand Coulee, and not the Seattle City Light dams, even though they have no fish facilities and completely block the rivers.
During the winter true. Not so druring the summer.
I thought you said I’d be unable to move if electricity went out. Now I have to run my whole life on solar. Way to move the goal posts.
Not even sure where you got that from. The whole conversation was about the alien invasion and loss of the power grid, and you suggested moving to solar. So, yes...in that case, you're running everything on solar.
