OT- Oops, voter fraud is underway

[Stretch 74]

According to stretch that never happened. Cuz you know eyes and ears…lalalalala…he was just kidding!…or whatever other bullshit excuses they can come up with for him

You are lying. Flat out, absolutely lying. I NEVER said that it did not happen. I have also stated what DID happen, which is that Trump was on the phone with GA SOS, other officials, and a bunch of attorneys and they spent an hour discussing issues and irregularities that had been reported in the 2020 lection. At the end of the call, Trump repeated his belief that there were problems with the voting and/or counting of vaotes and asked for them to continue investigating since the totals were so close and they only needed to find several thousand problem votes and it would change the outcome of the election.

You left side KoolAid drinkers continue to treat it like Trump asked him to do something illegal, or to find or make up 12,000 ballots out of thin air. That has been absolute bullshit from the beginning and remains bullshit to this very day. Trump had every right to question the results and had every right to request that they continue their investigation into the allegations of invalid ballots. That right is given to him in the US Constitution and Bill of Rights. He was well within his rights to do that, just as folks like Al Gore, Al Franken, Christine Gregoire, Stacy Abrams, the D running for US House in Indiana (I think, it was a midwest state) in 2022 all had the same rights.

If you would seek treatment for your TDS you might be able to understand and rationally process what actually happened and what his rights were.

 

[Loyal Coug1]

If fraud is not acceptable to the left, then please explain why they keep fighting against requiring picture ID to vote? Their stupid claim that it is racist and suppresses the black vote has been blown out of the water in Georgia (remember Jim Crow on steroids?), yet they still fight against ID requirements. Why is that? And while you are at it, perhaps you can also provide a rational excuse for why the left also pushes to allow aliens (illegal and otherwise) to vote?

Please provide documentation of these things for me? Especially the one about allowing illegal aliens to vote? Everything I read says differently. And requiring picture ID to vote. Explain how that would work in Washington, where it is 100% vote by mail. Was I supposed to present my picture ID to a camera on my local mailbox when I dropped off my ballot?

Can illegal immigrants really vote in the US election?

It is illegal for non-citizens to vote in the US election - but Donald Trump has repeatedly claimed immigrants are going to.

www.bbc.com

Who can and cannot vote | USAGov

Can you vote in federal, state, and local elections? Learn about qualifications such as citizenship, minimum age, registration, and more.

www.usa.gov

 

[dgibbons]

Please provide documentation of these things for me? Especially the one about allowing illegal aliens to vote? Everything I read says differently. And requiring picture ID to vote. Explain how that would work in Washington, where it is 100% vote by mail. Was I supposed to present my picture ID to a camera on my local mailbox when I dropped off my ballot?

Can illegal immigrants really vote in the US election?

It is illegal for non-citizens to vote in the US election - but Donald Trump has repeatedly claimed immigrants are going to.

www.bbc.com

Who can and cannot vote | USAGov

Can you vote in federal, state, and local elections? Learn about qualifications such as citizenship, minimum age, registration, and more.

www.usa.gov

Hate to break it to you, but walking across the border is illegal. Are you expecting the law will be enforced in this context, when it’s not in others?

 

[Loyal Coug1]

You are lying. Flat out, absolutely lying. I NEVER said that it did not happen. I have also stated what DID happen, which is that Trump was on the phone with GA SOS, other officials, and a bunch of attorneys and they spent an hour discussing issues and irregularities that had been reported in the 2020 lection. At the end of the call, Trump repeated his belief that there were problems with the voting and/or counting of vaotes and asked for them to continue investigating since the totals were so close and they only needed to find several thousand problem votes and it would change the outcome of the election.

You left side KoolAid drinkers continue to treat it like Trump asked him to do something illegal, or to find or make up 12,000 ballots out of thin air. That has been absolute bullshit from the beginning and remains bullshit to this very day. Trump had every right to question the results and had every right to request that they continue their investigation into the allegations of invalid ballots. That right is given to him in the US Constitution and Bill of Rights. He was well within his rights to do that, just as folks like Al Gore, Al Franken, Christine Gregoire, Stacy Abrams, the D running for US House in Indiana (I think, it was a midwest state) in 2022 all had the same rights.

If you would seek treatment for your TDS you might be able to understand and rationally process what actually happened and what his rights were.

That's kind of not what Trump said, as proven by the actual transcript of the call (link below).

The information reported by SmallJoys about the call between Trump and Raffensperger is accurate. Its quotes are consistent with the report from the Washington Post, which obtained a recording of the conversation.

"So look. All I want to do is this. I just want to find 11,780 votes, which is one more than we have. Because we won the state," Trump said.

Fact check: Trump pressured officials in Georgia to recalculate state's vote in his favor

On Jan. 3, news broke of a call in which Donald Trump attempted to persuade Georgia's secretary of state to recalculate the state's vote in his favor.

www.usatoday.com

 

[Coug90]

You are lying. Flat out, absolutely lying. I NEVER said that it did not happen. I have also stated what DID happen, which is that Trump was on the phone with GA SOS, other officials, and a bunch of attorneys and they spent an hour discussing issues and irregularities that had been reported in the 2020 lection. At the end of the call, Trump repeated his belief that there were problems with the voting and/or counting of vaotes and asked for them to continue investigating since the totals were so close and they only needed to find several thousand problem votes and it would change the outcome of the election.

You left side KoolAid drinkers continue to treat it like Trump asked him to do something illegal, or to find or make up 12,000 ballots out of thin air. That has been absolute bullshit from the beginning and remains bullshit to this very day. Trump had every right to question the results and had every right to request that they continue their investigation into the allegations of invalid ballots. That right is given to him in the US Constitution and Bill of Rights. He was well within his rights to do that, just as folks like Al Gore, Al Franken, Christine Gregoire, Stacy Abrams, the D running for US House in Indiana (I think, it was a midwest state) in 2022 all had the same rights.

If you would seek treatment for your TDS you might be able to understand and rationally process what actually happened and what his rights were.

He literally did ask for him to do something illegal and find 12000 votes out of mid air. To twist his words into anything else is so ridiculous it’s not even worth debating. But you’ll do it with every nonsensical and criminal thing that comes out of his mouth. You could watch him violate your daughter, and if he told you he didn’t do it you’d kiss his feet. It’s a cult.

 

[KRUSTYtheCOUG]

If fraud is not acceptable to the left, then please explain why they keep fighting against requiring picture ID to vote? Their stupid claim that it is racist and suppresses the black vote has been blown out of the water in Georgia (remember Jim Crow on steroids?), yet they still fight against ID requirements. Why is that? And while you are at it, perhaps you can also provide a rational excuse for why the left also pushes to allow aliens (illegal and otherwise) to vote?

I'm all for voter id, provided it is free of charge. That's all I have to say about that.

 

[KRUSTYtheCOUG]

Democracy like Pelosi knee capping the sitting president and inserting Harris? Or do you mean democracy like the administration telling Facebook to quell dissent?

Willie is a grown up. He/she/they doesn’t need your broken English, fourth grade reading level, MSNBC inspired help.

Party selection of nominees is not and has not ever been strictly a democracy. Taihtsat

 

[Loyal Coug1]

Hate to break it to you, but walking across the border is illegal. Are you expecting the law will be enforced in this context, when it’s not in others?

I have no idea what your point is here. As usual, since there rarely is one. Hate to break it to you.

Do YOU care to explain how I was supposed to present my ID when I voted by mail? And how these countless numbers of illegals were/are able to register to vote when they have to prove citizenship when they register? And why the hell would ILLEGAL aliens expose themselves to authorities by even attempting to do so?

 

[Stretch 74]

Please provide documentation of these things for me? Especially the one about allowing illegal aliens to vote? Everything I read says differently. And requiring picture ID to vote. Explain how that would work in Washington, where it is 100% vote by mail. Was I supposed to present my picture ID to a camera on my local mailbox when I dropped off my ballot?

Can illegal immigrants really vote in the US election?

It is illegal for non-citizens to vote in the US election - but Donald Trump has repeatedly claimed immigrants are going to.

www.bbc.com

Who can and cannot vote | USAGov

Can you vote in federal, state, and local elections? Learn about qualifications such as citizenship, minimum age, registration, and more.

www.usa.gov

Come on, Loyal. Don't be a brick. You should have to provide proof of US citizenship when you REGISTER to vote. Then when you send in your absentee ballot it will be recognized that you are a properly certified voter. And you can show ID if voting in person, obviously.

Note that all mail voting where ballots are flooded out everyone that it does allow for fraud, for people to vote that do not have the legal right to do so. Which common sense tells us as well as the investigation done by Carter and Baker back around 2006.

Hope this helps:

Laws permitting noncitizens to vote in the United States

Ballotpedia: The Encyclopedia of American Politics

ballotpedia.org

 

[Loyal Coug1]

Come on, Loyal. Don't be a brick. You should have to provide proof of US citizenship when you REGISTER to vote. Then when you send in your absentee ballot it will be recognized that you are a properly certified voter. And you can show ID if voting in person, obviously.

Note that all mail voting where ballots are flooded out everyone that it does allow for fraud, for people to vote that do not have the legal right to do so. Which common sense tells us as well as the investigation done by Carter and Baker back around 2006.

Hope this helps:

Laws permitting noncitizens to vote in the United States

Ballotpedia: The Encyclopedia of American Politics

ballotpedia.org

No that link (which I read in its entirety) doesn't help at all. Contrary to the opinion of some on this board, I am fully capable of reading and understanding the English language. California and Vermont allow non-citizens to vote in school board elections (which I do not agree with). Not sure how this relates to Federal elections. And you do have to prove you are a US citizen when you register to vote.

But I'm gonna follow Flat's wisdom and bow out of this cluster**** of a thread. I do wonder why you want to move out of Idaho. Do you exceed the permissible number of teeth as prescribed in Idaho's constitution? And I quote:

"No person who, upon reaching adulthood, shall be allowed to have 70% or more of their natural teeth and be a resident of Idaho". Section 17.a(2)

 

[dgibbons]

Party selection of nominees is not and has not ever been strictly a democracy. Taihtsat

OK Madam Former Speaker. Just keep the “democracy” rhetoric to yourself. Bad decision blowing that cash in the primary, right?

 

[KRUSTYtheCOUG]

OK Madam Former Speaker. Just keep the “democracy” rhetoric to yourself. Bad decision blowing that cash in the primary, right?

Regardless of the eventually deemed irrelevant democratic primary, it was pretty clear from the lack of significant protests, lack of challengers to Harris and huge fundraising accumulated in the immediate days after Harris emerged, that the will of the democratic party base was realized.

This talk of a "coup" and disenfranchising voters is nonesense that is silly to offer as an argument. Taihtsat

 

[Stretch 74]

No that link (which I read in its entirety) doesn't help at all. Contrary to the opinion of some on this board, I am fully capable of reading and understanding the English language. California and Vermont allow non-citizens to vote in school board elections (which I do not agree with). Not sure how this relates to Federal elections. And you do have to prove you are a US citizen when you register to vote.

But I'm gonna follow Flat's wisdom and bow out of this cluster**** of a thread. I do wonder why you want to move out of Idaho. Do you exceed the permissible number of teeth as prescribed in Idaho's constitution? And I quote"

"No person who, upon reaching adulthood, shall be allowed to have 70% or more of their natural teeth and be a resident of Idaho". Section 17.a(2)

Moving out of Idaho back to WA has been a difficult decision, no doubt about that. There are many reasons for me to stay here and also many reasons to move back home.

I was raised in the Skagit Valley, and my wife was raised in Helena, MT. When I retired we had to get the Hell out of King county, and looked for a place to live in the greater Spokane/CDA area. The place we found that was perfect for us was in CDA area, but if the same place was in Spokane area we would have moved there also. Single level house, 3000 sf, 5 acres, 2 shops (stick framed to match house, not pole barn), and rural yet close to business/government/health care locations. You may remember that my wife passed away in 2020, which throws a big monkey wrench in one's long term plans. With that occurring, I thought long and hard about if it made sense to stay here or move back to "home". Advice for those that have gone through traumatic events such as divorce or death of a spouse is to not make any large life decisions for at least a year. Even though I knew her life was ending, I waited 2+ years before committing to making the move.

Decision factors included things like weather, political climate, prices, taxes, congestion of roads and shopping, etc. Also factors were things like family is in WA, close and long term friends from high school and career were in WA, relatives in WA, and my Successor Trustees were all in western WA. So when I am gone it will be much, much easier to take care of my estate if I am located in WA. So in trying to make things easier for them and looking forward to being able to visit friends and family more in WA, I decided it would be best to move back over there. Which is exactly what my wife told me I should do after she died, and she was a pretty smart gal with good intuition. So I guess I will just have to learn to live with all the liberal infected nonsense over there.

Finally, one thing that should make it easier to adjust to is that I have inherited a waterfront lot on a lake in that area and will be building a home and shop there. Sadly, I will have to adjust to having only about 2000 sf of shop space instead of the 5000+ sf that I currently have. Will need to organize and downsize a lot for that.

So there ya go.....

 

[BiggsCoug]

Moving out of Idaho back to WA has been a difficult decision, no doubt about that. There are many reasons for me to stay here and also many reasons to move back home.

I was raised in the Skagit Valley, and my wife was raised in Helena, MT. When I retired we had to get the Hell out of King county, and looked for a place to live in the greater Spokane/CDA area. The place we found that was perfect for us was in CDA area, but if the same place was in Spokane area we would have moved there also. Single level house, 3000 sf, 5 acres, 2 shops (stick framed to match house, not pole barn), and rural yet close to business/government/health care locations. You may remember that my wife passed away in 2020, which throws a big monkey wrench in one's long term plans. With that occurring, I thought long and hard about if it made sense to stay here or move back to "home". Advice for those that have gone through traumatic events such as divorce or death of a spouse is to not make any large life decisions for at least a year. Even though I knew her life was ending, I waited 2+ years before committing to making the move.

Decision factors included things like weather, political climate, prices, taxes, congestion of roads and shopping, etc. Also factors were things like family is in WA, close and long term friends from high school and career were in WA, relatives in WA, and my Successor Trustees were all in western WA. So when I am gone it will be much, much easier to take care of my estate if I am located in WA. So in trying to make things easier for them and looking forward to being able to visit friends and family more in WA, I decided it would be best to move back over there. Which is exactly what my wife told me I should do after she died, and she was a pretty smart gal with good intuition. So I guess I will just have to learn to live with all the liberal infected nonsense over there.

Finally, one thing that should make it easier to adjust to is that I have inherited a waterfront lot on a lake in that area and will be building a home and shop there. Sadly, I will have to adjust to having only about 2000 sf of shop space instead of the 5000+ sf that I currently have. Will need to organize and downsize a lot for that.

So there ya go.....

Am jealous of your shop.

 

[dgibbons]

Regardless of the eventually deemed irrelevant democratic primary, it was pretty clear from the lack of significant protests, lack of challengers to Harris and huge fundraising accumulated in the immediate days after Harris emerged, that the will of the democratic party base was realized.

This talk of a "coup" and disenfranchising voters is nonesense that is silly to offer as an argument. Taihtsat

Or the will of the authoritarian former Madam Speaker.

 

[KRUSTYtheCOUG]

Or the will of the authoritarian former Madam Speaker.

George Clooney is the one you should be blaming/giving credit, I believe. Taihtsat

 

[CougEd]

You are lying. Flat out, absolutely lying. I NEVER said that it did not happen. I have also stated what DID happen, which is that Trump was on the phone with GA SOS, other officials, and a bunch of attorneys and they spent an hour discussing issues and irregularities that had been reported in the 2020 lection. At the end of the call, Trump repeated his belief that there were problems with the voting and/or counting of vaotes and asked for them to continue investigating since the totals were so close and they only needed to find several thousand problem votes and it would change the outcome of the election.

You left side KoolAid drinkers continue to treat it like Trump asked him to do something illegal, or to find or make up 12,000 ballots out of thin air. That has been absolute bullshit from the beginning and remains bullshit to this very day. Trump had every right to question the results and had every right to request that they continue their investigation into the allegations of invalid ballots. That right is given to him in the US Constitution and Bill of Rights. He was well within his rights to do that, just as folks like Al Gore, Al Franken, Christine Gregoire, Stacy Abrams, the D running for US House in Indiana (I think, it was a midwest state) in 2022 all had the same rights.

If you would seek treatment for your TDS you might be able to understand and rationally process what actually happened and what his rights were.

Stretch....when I read your stuff I envision someone tying themselves up in a pretzel. When the President says "cmon guys, all I need you to do is find 11,780 votes", sure doesn't sound like a guy making a call to do a fourth audit. They told him he lost and there was no fraud that would change the outcome.

But that isn't my question. My question is, what if what has said he does he follows through and it isn't just "campaign rhetoric". Are you ok with him sending in the military against protestors who are peacefully protesting? What happens if he fires Jack Smith. Doesn't Jack Smith work for our judiscal system and doing his job? What if he goes after his politically enemies, like Smith and Pelosi. What did they do outside their jobs?

What if he goes after Mark Millie and John Kelley for voicing their opinion? Are you ok with that, and if not what will you do?

Last question, when was the last time a democratically elected dictator like Victor O of Hungary just step down and not corrupt the election process?

 

[CougEd]

If voter fraud happens and is primarily a Republican construct, certainty the Democratic Party had ample opportunity to demand paper ballots and voter ID to put a clamp on it, right?

Or don't be the first to claim voter fraud without having the evidence, and don't fall for the BS. That is an easier answer. Didn't he say the system was rigged when he lost Iowa to Cruz?

 

[UberCougars]

I don’t do hypotheticals

 

[dgibbons]

Stretch....when I read your stuff I envision someone tying themselves up in a pretzel. When the President says "cmon guys, all I need you to do is find 11,780 votes", sure doesn't sound like a guy making a call to do a fourth audit. They told him he lost and there was no fraud that would change the outcome.

But that isn't my question. My question is, what if what has said he does he follows through and it isn't just "campaign rhetoric". Are you ok with him sending in the military against protestors who are peacefully protesting? What happens if he fires Jack Smith. Doesn't Jack Smith work for our judiscal system and doing his job? What if he goes after his politically enemies, like Smith and Pelosi. What did they do outside their jobs?

What if he goes after Mark Millie and John Kelley for voicing their opinion? Are you ok with that, and if not what will you do?

Last question, when was the last time a democratically elected dictator like Victor O of Hungary just step down and not corrupt the election process?

Jack Smith doesn’t work for the judicial system. He’s an assistant US Attorney. Not a judge. He’s part of the executive branch.

But I’ll tell you what might happen if Trump fires him- You’ll be outraged because Rachel Maddow and Joe Scarborough tell you to be outraged. You might even be so outraged that you support another impeachment that will stall anything and everything Trump wants to get through Congress for like a year while Nancy Pelosi and Adam Schiff get their sound bites on the Sunday shows. Because that’s what is important of course. Culture is wars and outrage. Then the senate will acquit him again and half of Trump’s term will be over with and the winners will be gridlock.

Or maybe Trump will just pardon himself and then you can be outraged over that.

 

[dgibbons]

George Clooney is the one you should be blaming/giving credit, I believe. Taihtsat

Don’t be silly. Ole Nance doesn’t let silly things like democracy stand in her way.

 

[95coug]

No that link (which I read in its entirety) doesn't help at all. Contrary to the opinion of some on this board, I am fully capable of reading and understanding the English language. California and Vermont allow non-citizens to vote in school board elections (which I do not agree with). Not sure how this relates to Federal elections. And you do have to prove you are a US citizen when you register to vote.

But I'm gonna follow Flat's wisdom and bow out of this cluster**** of a thread. I do wonder why you want to move out of Idaho. Do you exceed the permissible number of teeth as prescribed in Idaho's constitution? And I quote:

"No person who, upon reaching adulthood, shall be allowed to have 70% or more of their natural teeth and be a resident of Idaho". Section 17.a(2)

You’re incorrect….at least in Washington. You do not have to prove citizenship, you just have to be willing to sign a statement that says you’re eligible to vote. There’s a warning that you could be imprisoned for lying, but show me when the last time that happened was.

Washington has also created the situation where undocumented/illegal migrants can get a drivers license…and everyone who gets a license is asked if they want to register to vote. No need to prove anything more than residency, which you can do with an electric bill. Some of those migrants probably can’t read what they’re signing anyway.

So, yes - there are absolutely illegal aliens registered to vote in this state. How many? No idea. But this is exactly the sort of thing that voter ID should address - and I’d be 100% on board with a process that made people prove that they’re a citizen when they register to vote. That should happen before the election, not at the polling place.

 

[Loyal Coug1]

You’re incorrect….at least in Washington. You do not have to prove citizenship, you just have to be willing to sign a statement that says you’re eligible to vote. There’s a warning that you could be imprisoned for lying, but show me when the last time that happened was.

Washington has also created the situation where undocumented/illegal migrants can get a drivers license…and everyone who gets a license is asked if they want to register to vote. No need to prove anything more than residency, which you can do with an electric bill. Some of those migrants probably can’t read what they’re signing anyway.

So, yes - there are absolutely illegal aliens registered to vote in this state. How many? No idea. But this is exactly the sort of thing that voter ID should address - and I’d be 100% on board with a process that made people prove that they’re a citizen when they register to vote. That should happen before the election, not at the polling place.

Well that is f-ed up then. I stand corrected. Mark it on your calendars, as it is a rare occurrence. Like Hailey's comet.

 

[Stretch 74]

Well that is f-ed up then. I stand corrected. Mark it on your calendars, as it is a rare occurrence. Like Hailey's comet.

Congratulations! You are now one of the folks that understand that this kind of stuff actually happens instead of being one of those that just have the knee jerk reaction that Stretch and all those right wingers don't know their own ass from a hole in the ground.

 

[Stretch 74]

Am jealous of your shop.

Yes, I get that. Most guys are jealous of that. I am fortunate to have had them here for 12 years, and will definitely miss them after moving.

 

[Loyal Coug1]

Congratulations! You are now one of the folks that understand that this kind of stuff actually happens instead of being one of those that just have the knee jerk reaction that Stretch and all those right wingers don't know their own ass from a hole in the ground.

I don't believe that I said that. Now excuse me, my neighbor's roasted dog is almost done. I have invited a couple of childless cat ladies over for dinner, at which time I will grab their pussies. Then we will have a spirited discussion of what lowlifes and liars John Kelly and Mark Milley are. Dessert will be served over a dose of how John McCain wasn't a hero. Yum.

 

[Cougsocal]

But at 7:31 am this morning you said voter fraud was perpetrated by Republicans.

But now YOU want proof of voter fraud?
. Don’t you want to solve even the perception of fraudulent activity through proper controls?

Do you lock the cash drawer at night or just work on the honor system until there’s evidence money is missing?

Probably the single most important right a citizen has is your franchise. Not allowing a citizen their right to vote due to poll regulations is disenfranchisement. If there was evidence of wide spread voter fraud, stricter regulation would be warranted. But there is no such evidence. What you are promoting is voter suppression effort based on unfounded and cynical claims of a sore election loser. You don't hinder a person's right to vote for that.

 

[longtimecoug]

Hate to break it to you, but walking across the border is illegal. Are you expecting the law will be enforced in this context, when it’s not in others?

what a bullshit strawman argument

 

[UberCougars]

ABC Good Morning America today.

No need to download the X app to view it, just click it.

https://x.com/_johnnymaga/status/1850878084120977703?s=46

 

[KRUSTYtheCOUG]

Don’t be silly. Ole Nance doesn’t let silly things like democracy stand in her way.

Please explain what pelosi has done to undercut our democracy?

 

[Flatlandcoug]

Still funny that this thread is still ongoing. Everyone knows how everyone feels. What's the point?

Is it nothing more than it feels good to be mad at someone?

 

[dgibbons]

what a bullshit strawman argument

The bullshit would be between your ears.

 

[UberCougars]

 

[dgibbons]

Please explain what pelosi has done to undercut our democracy?

If you don't believe that a person who forces out the candidate that won every Democrat primary had undercut democracy, there is nothing that can be done for you. You have been brainwashed. What you think are your own thoughts are not.

Your lame response will be that the party can do this, that or the other thing. But, of course that ignores that the primaries happened. What's truly sad is that you don't realize that by doing so (and rigging the primaries for Biden in the first place), is that the Democrats robbed the country of someone that actually could be a good candidate.

 

[UberCougars]

Please explain what pelosi has done to undercut our democracy?

in her own words…

 

[UberCougars]

 

[Observer11]

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It’s only voter suppression if the arsonist is asked for ID or proof of citizenship. In person.

Mostly peaceful burning of ballots.

 

[BleedCrimsonandGray]

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Well, there's no proof of who exactly did this unless Antifa is claiming to have done so publicly.

Also, this was in the northWEST, Portland and Vancouver WA.

Finally, I fail to see the purpose of burning ballots: if you're radical left, the vote is almost certainly going your way regardless, and the converse is true for the radical right, so what's the point? If you were to argue that anyone would be responsible for this it would make more sense that the radical right would do this to sow lack of confidence in the election process/ results.

 

[Stretch 74]

Well that is f-ed up then. I stand corrected. Mark it on your calendars, as it is a rare occurrence. Like Hailey's comet.

Some more info for you on how people that are not eligible to vote are able to make it happen. As always, hope this helps you.

BTW, here is another question that it would be nice to hear some kind of rational explanation for- Why is it that the Dems/Libs oppose asking a person's citizenship during the census activities every 10 years? Couldn't be because it is to their benefit to include aliens to increase their electoral votes, right?

Congress Must Do More To Prevent Noncitizens From Voting

It is well past time for Congress to fix the election integrity problems it has created over the past 30 years.

thefederalist.com

EDIT: Again I ask why the libs fight tooth and nail against efforts to keep legal and illegal aliens off the votor rolls? What explanation is there other than they are trying to enable the opportunity to have non-eligible people vote!

This was posted on X by former US Prosecutor Andrew McCarthy today:
"A panel of 2 Obama-appointed judges and 1 Biden-appointed judge has sided with the Obama-Biden DOJ in opposing Virginia’s effort to bar aliens from voting in the election — notwithstanding that it is a federal crime for aliens to vote."
Hmmmmm-Dem appointed judges, I guess they need to recuse themselves from the case.

 

[Stretch 74]

Stretch....when I read your stuff I envision someone tying themselves up in a pretzel. When the President says "cmon guys, all I need you to do is find 11,780 votes", sure doesn't sound like a guy making a call to do a fourth audit. They told him he lost and there was no fraud that would change the outcome.

But that isn't my question. My question is, what if what has said he does he follows through and it isn't just "campaign rhetoric". Are you ok with him sending in the military against protestors who are peacefully protesting? What happens if he fires Jack Smith. Doesn't Jack Smith work for our judiscal system and doing his job? What if he goes after his politically enemies, like Smith and Pelosi. What did they do outside their jobs?

What if he goes after Mark Millie and John Kelley for voicing their opinion? Are you ok with that, and if not what will you do?

Last question, when was the last time a democratically elected dictator like Victor O of Hungary just step down and not corrupt the election process?

Pretzel logic? That's rich, coming from you!

As I have stated many times, look at the context. If Trump called up and immediately started demanding that GA took whatever actions necessary to overcome the Biden vote lead, you would have a point. When he said he just needed to find those votes after the hour long discussion, where they presented their evidence/arguments that they firmly believed were irregularities, then it is an entirely different situation.

I really, really love all your far out hypothetical questions that you always throw out there. Do you actually believe all the lies thrown out there by Kamal, MSNBC, CNN, etc? Do you actually believe that Trump (or any other president) will activate the military to ATTACK strictly peaceful protestors? That is just bizarre. But how do you define "peaceful" anyway, because that is the key to the issue. If it is truly peaceful, then Hell no you do not send in military to attack protestors. But if they are protesting peacefully like back in 2020 where there was billions in damage, buildings and neighborhoods burned, or they are breaking laws by not vacating when told to or blocking PUBLIC roadways, then I have no problem having National Guard, even enlisted military take whatever actions are needed to restore order.

Jack Smith doing his job? Yes, he is doing what he is told to do by his boss Garland and his boss Biden. All the "lawfare" unleashed on Trump is quite obviously politically motivated. Would Trump return the favor and tell the DOJ to prosecute Biden for his security violations, Hunter for his crimes, etc? I doubt very much he will. I need to remind you that he already declined to do that with Hillary, which would have been an easy case to win, and he said he is thinking about a pardon for Hunter.

Pelosi? That hag went after Trump with a vengeance. Two ridiculous impeachments, and the kangaroo court on January 6th. All those actions totally one sided, she wouldn't let the R's participate, and they did a Salem witch trial, withholding evidence that they didn't like. Evil, pathetic.

Why do you believe Kelly, guy that was fired and has an ax to grind on Trump, when five other named officials (not the typical anonymous source) all say Kelly is wrong? TDS? And what do you mean by having Trump go after someone for what they say? Have them arrested? Is saying your opinion a crime? Do you believe the ridiculous bullshit about Trump being worse than Hitler? And asking what I would do if Trump does "go after them"? WTF can I do? I guess I could agree or disagree on an internet message board, but we all know that is a pretty impotent thing to do.

While we are at it, what are YOU going to do about Biden, Harris, Obama, Schumer, Kelly, Hillary, etc all telling lies about Trump, Republican, and by inference those of us that support Trump and/or other Republicans/conservatives? They are creating a terrible division in our country, so what are YOU going to do about that?