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You ask that Trump be treated fairly and yet he has no problem being a complete and total a$$hole who lies relentlessly, flip flops on issues when necessary and is a heartless turncoat who will attempt to destroy anyone who doesn't pledge total allegiance. Those aren't lies or exaggerations....that's 40 years of data.

If his fans held him to any accountability for his actions, I'd agree that he deserves "fair" treatment. As it is, he's allowed to say or do whatever he wants and it is ignored. Until that changes, f#ck that guy.
Are you saying Biden, Obama, Bush, Clinton, Bush, Reagan, Ford and Nixon only told the truth? Or never flip flopped? Or were accountable?
 
Are you saying Biden, Obama, Bush, Clinton, Bush, Reagan, Ford and Nixon only told the truth? Or never flip flopped? Or were accountable?
What is your f-ing point Gibby? Are you a Trump lover? I mean Geezus, bringing 7 Presidents in to defend that POS Trump? WTF is wrong with you and all the Trump lovers. That guy is the worst thing that ever happened to our country. And to have supposedly educated Cougs join the ranks of his toothless redneck base just blow this independent moderate away. Wake the F up.
 
Are you saying Biden, Obama, Bush, Clinton, Bush, Reagan, Ford and Nixon only told the truth? Or never flip flopped? Or were accountable?
I don’t care about any of that. Trump throws a terrible bubble screen.
 
As for us "Sheep," while it is "My body, my choice," what the F does that have to do with one's employer, and how he runs his business. You don't get to foust your nut job beliefs on your employer and his employees, particularly when their primary mission is enlightenment and dispelling nut job beliefs, and you are their most visible employee. It isn't like Rolo was an assistant groundskeeper. When you are the primary face of a business, paid accordingly, your first job is to promote, not embarrass, it. That is why coaches/Prezs/ADs routinely get fired "for cause" for saying the wrong thing, "meeting Destiny." drinking and driving, having sex with staff etc., when groundskeepers don't. You have every right to wear a tin foil hat, and your employer has every right to say you can't be a tin foil hat wearer and work for him. The better Rolo cliche is "you can't have the cake and eat it too." Free not to vaccinate, free to express Bill Gate conspiracies, but WSU has no obligation to continue to employ you. Where in your analysis is WSU's rights?
It was a crazy situation during a very messed up time socially. I reluctantly got the vaccine because of the reasons you stated above. As a traveling salesman, I had to get the vaccine to keep my job.

What stoked (and continues to stoke) the flames for a lot of us is that the rules only apply to certain demographics. People were forced to get the vaccination at the same time when stores were being looted daily and immigrants were pouring into the Country illegally without vaccine requirements. Children were forced to get the vaccine, and schools were still being shut down. 2 generations of graduating seniors had their high school experiences ruined.

I'm not as boxed into my political leanings as some of you are. I'm disgusted by what I've watched unfold in America. Double standard management is the fastest way to implode any organization, and over the past 5-7 years, we've witnessed an unprecedented meltdown at multiple levels of our National leadership agencies. Federal, State, K-12 school unions, colleges & universities, homeland security, NIAID, social media (twitter), mainstream media (Fox News, CNN, etc.), law enforcement. We're being lied to repeatedly and nobody knows how to get their arms around it.
 
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It was a crazy situation during a very messed up time socially. I reluctantly got the vaccine because of the reasons you stated above. As a traveling salesman, I had to get the vaccine to keep my job.

What stoked (and continues to stoke) the flames for a lot of us is that the rules only apply to certain demographics. People were forced to get the vaccination at the same time when stores will be looted daily and immigrants were pouring into the Country illegally without vaccine requirements. Children were forced to get the vaccine, and schools were still being shut down. 2 generations of graduating seniors had their high school experiences ruined.

I'm not as boxed into my political leanings as some of you are. I'm disgusted by what I've watched unfold in America. Double standard management is the fastest way to implode any organization, and over the past 5-7 years, we've witnessed an unprecedented meltdown at multiple levels of our National leadership agencies. Federal, State, K-12 school unions, colleges & universities, homeland security, NIAID, social media (twitter), mainstream media (Fox News, CNN, etc.), law enforcement. We're being lied to repeatedly and nobody knows how to get their arms around it.
I share your pain buddy. I hate the America my grandkids are inheriting.

But there is one word that describes a lot of this shit. Trump.
 
What is your f-ing point Gibby? Are you a Trump lover? I mean Geezus, bringing 7 Presidents in to defend that POS Trump? WTF is wrong with you and all the Trump lovers. That guy is the worst thing that ever happened to our country. And to have supposedly educated Cougs join the ranks of his toothless redneck base just blow this independent moderate away. Wake the F up.
The only thing different about Trump is he doesn’t hide the narcissism.

And you really project a lot.
 
Are you saying Biden, Obama, Bush, Clinton, Bush, Reagan, Ford and Nixon only told the truth? Or never flip flopped? Or were accountable?

There’s a few key differences between Trump and those other former presidents.

1. They didn’t lie every single day.
2. They were never caught on tape saying that they could grab women by the pussy with no repercussion.
3. They never said that they could shoot someone in downtown New York and his constituents would support him.
4. They never conspired to install a set of fake electors to bypass the results of an election.
5. They were never caught on tape trying to blackmail a foreign leader into producing dirt on a political opponent.

The other presidents weren’t perfect and I disagreed with some of their actions or statements, but I wasn’t ashamed by their ignorance, antipathy and incompetence on a daily basis. The above is the short list that could be tripled in length with no effort.
 
There’s a few key differences between Trump and those other former presidents.

1. They didn’t lie every single day.
2. They were never caught on tape saying that they could grab women by the pussy with no repercussion.
3. They never said that they could shoot someone in downtown New York and his constituents would support him.
4. They never conspired to install a set of fake electors to bypass the results of an election.
5. They were never caught on tape trying to blackmail a foreign leader into producing dirt on a political opponent.

The other presidents weren’t perfect and I disagreed with some of their actions or statements, but I wasn’t ashamed by their ignorance, antipathy and incompetence on a daily basis. The above is the short list that could be tripled in length with no effort.
Good job Flat. Trump is an abomination, and I can't believe he was actually our President. If he gets re-elected, I am moving to Canada or Costa Rica. Our country is so F-ed.
 
The only thing different about Trump is he doesn’t hide the narcissism.

And you really project a lot.
I don’t get in pissing matches with you and generally respect your intellect and value your opinions. This is probably the dumbest thing I’ve ever seen you post.
 
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There’s a few key differences between Trump and those other former presidents.

1. They didn’t lie every single day.
2. They were never caught on tape saying that they could grab women by the pussy with no repercussion.
3. They never said that they could shoot someone in downtown New York and his constituents would support him.
4. They never conspired to install a set of fake electors to bypass the results of an election.
5. They were never caught on tape trying to blackmail a foreign leader into producing dirt on a political opponent.

The other presidents weren’t perfect and I disagreed with some of their actions or statements, but I wasn’t ashamed by their ignorance, antipathy and incompetence on a daily basis. The above is the short list that could be tripled in length with no effort.
Bill Clinton is a vile human being. Every bit as bad as Trump. The man raped women and his wife smeared them to cover it up. There’s a lot more than that, but there’s no need to revisit it.

Trump is an awful, pig of a person, but don’t for a second discount was Bill and Hilary are about.
 
Bill Clinton is a vile human being. Every bit as bad as Trump. The man raped women and his wife smeared them to cover it up. There’s a lot more than that, but there’s no need to revisit it.

Trump is an awful, pig of a person, but don’t for a second discount was Bill and Hilary are about.
If people would quit either leading or tying in Trump on virtually every argument, the so-called 'whataboutism' would go away.

Data, facts and logic tend to make the personalities a non factor.

A resourceful party would trademark Trump's Law as an equivalent to Godwin's.
 
Bill Clinton is a vile human being. Every bit as bad as Trump. The man raped women and his wife smeared them to cover it up. There’s a lot more than that, but there’s no need to revisit it.

Trump is an awful, pig of a person, but don’t for a second discount was Bill and Hilary are about.

I'm no Bill Clinton fan and Hillary is a slimeball politician that the Democrats should be embarrassed to have nominated. That does not excuse Donald Trump. Trump supporters continue to believe that if someone hates Trump, they love the Clintons and that just isn't the case. it's ok to acknowledge and dislike politicians from both parties. The argument that Trump is acceptable because Bill Clinton was president is not particularly compelling. It's like saying that murdering your spouse should be ok because OJ was found not guilty in the 90's.

And for what it's worth, as much of a slimeball as Bill Clinton was....it's objectively obvious that Donald Trump is truly a far worse human being. Clinton was guilty of being unethical on many occasions, but at least we could go a month at times without him making a mockery of himself and our country. Trump made an ass out of himself on a daily basis. So, I agree that Clinton was a scumbag, but that just really highlights how absolutely terrible that Trump truly is.

FWIW, I am willing to acknowledge that Trump was right about some things and he did some things that needed to be done...but then again....Clinton was President the last time that our country actually operated without a budget deficit....so even terrible Presidents get some things right. Doesn't make me want Clinton or Trump back.
 
I'm no Bill Clinton fan and Hillary is a slimeball politician that the Democrats should be embarrassed to have nominated. That does not excuse Donald Trump. Trump supporters continue to believe that if someone hates Trump, they love the Clintons and that just isn't the case. it's ok to acknowledge and dislike politicians from both parties. The argument that Trump is acceptable because Bill Clinton was president is not particularly compelling. It's like saying that murdering your spouse should be ok because OJ was found not guilty in the 90's.

And for what it's worth, as much of a slimeball as Bill Clinton was....it's objectively obvious that Donald Trump is truly a far worse human being. Clinton was guilty of being unethical on many occasions, but at least we could go a month at times without him making a mockery of himself and our country. Trump made an ass out of himself on a daily basis. So, I agree that Clinton was a scumbag, but that just really highlights how absolutely terrible that Trump truly is.

FWIW, I am willing to acknowledge that Trump was right about some things and he did some things that needed to be done...but then again....Clinton was President the last time that our country actually operated without a budget deficit....so even terrible Presidents get some things right. Doesn't make me want Clinton or Trump back.
Q: You know what you get when you cross a crooked politician and a crooked Lawyer?
A: Chelsea Clinton
 
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Bill Clinton is a vile human being. Every bit as bad as Trump. The man raped women and his wife smeared them to cover it up. There’s a lot more than that, but there’s no need to revisit it.

Trump is an awful, pig of a person, but don’t for a second discount was Bill and Hilary are about.

Hyperbolic much?

Not defending scum bucket Clinton but he’s actually only been accused of R-A-P-E by one woman who also testified under oath that he did not rape her.

Regardless, Slick Willie never tried to lead an insurrection against our country.
 
Hyperbolic much?

Not defending scum bucket Clinton but he’s actually only been accused of R-A-P-E by one woman who also testified under oath that he did not rape her.

Regardless, Slick Willie never tried to lead an insurrection against our country.
To be fair, Trump didn’t try to lead it either. He just tried to get other people to do it for him. Probably couldn’t go himself because of the bone spurs.
 
To be fair, Trump didn’t try to lead it either. He just tried to get other people to do it for him. Probably couldn’t go himself because of the bone spurs.

Actually, Trump was recorded making a “perfect” phone call to Georgia asking them to “find some votes”. Sounds like he worked through those bone spurs and was actively involved. Gotta admit that your point is valid overall though. He’s a master at signaling what he wants and getting his minions to do the dirty work.
 
To be fair, Trump didn’t try to lead it either. He just tried to get other people to do it for him. Probably couldn’t go himself because of the bone spurs.
It was the Secret Service that prevented him from going to the capitol.
 
I don’t get in pissing matches with you and generally respect your intellect and value your opinions. This is probably the dumbest thing I’ve ever seen you post.
Is there a reason I should care? And you're showing, let's say, your lack of intellectual depth again with that post.
 
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Good job Flat. Trump is an abomination, and I can't believe he was actually our President. If he gets re-elected, I am moving to Canada or Costa Rica. Our country is so F-ed.
Why so quiet about your projection? The ladies at the old folks home wearing you out?

Please take Whoopi Goldberg with you.
 
There’s a few key differences between Trump and those other former presidents.

1. They didn’t lie every single day.
2. They were never caught on tape saying that they could grab women by the pussy with no repercussion.
3. They never said that they could shoot someone in downtown New York and his constituents would support him.
4. They never conspired to install a set of fake electors to bypass the results of an election.
5. They were never caught on tape trying to blackmail a foreign leader into producing dirt on a political opponent.

The other presidents weren’t perfect and I disagreed with some of their actions or statements, but I wasn’t ashamed by their ignorance, antipathy and incompetence on a daily basis. The above is the short list that could be tripled in length with no effort.
Go ahead and triple it. Then go through the same exercise for the other presidents listed above.

If any kind of deciding factor is the way you feel about any of them, you might be narcissistic enough to check that box on the list of presidential qualifications.
 
Is there a reason I should care? And you're showing, let's say, your lack of intellectual depth again with that post.
A reason you should care? That’s for you to determine not me…as for my intellectual depth, I know you can’t take out a hurricane with a nuke, windmills don’t cause cancer, and it’s a bad idea to inject yourself with disinfectant.
 
A reason you should care? That’s for you to determine not me…as for my intellectual depth, I know you can’t take out a hurricane with a nuke, windmills don’t cause cancer, and it’s a bad idea to inject yourself with disinfectant.
Well apparently you believe everything any the media outlet will tell you. The disinfectant thing was covered above. You can always educate yourself and do some fact checking.
 
Hyperbolic much?

Not defending scum bucket Clinton but he’s actually only been accused of R-A-P-E by one woman who also testified under oath that he did not rape her.

Regardless, Slick Willie never tried to lead an insurrection against our country.
Listen, you'll never hear me defend Donald Trump on any level. He's a repugnant human being. One of the worst, but certainly not alone.

Bill Clinton has been accused of rape by 9 women not including his shenanigans with Monica Lewy. Do you think there are more or less than that number? Do you think he visited Epstein Island for platonic reasons.

If I could erase Donald Trump out of American history I would do it in a heartbeat, but lets not pretend that the road to Trump was paved by virtuous politicians. Bill and Hilary are grotesque people.
 
Well apparently you believe everything any the media outlet will tell you. The disinfectant thing was covered above. You can always educate yourself and do some fact checking.
Fact checking is irrelevant when it comes directly from the source. I meant what I said about respecting your intellect BTW, regardless of your insulting response (I don’t care either). The most fascinating thing to me about his following is the intelligent people like you who cover their eyes and plug their ears to the crazy and stupid shit that comes directly out of his mouth or through his tweets. I imagine in time college psych courses will be covering this period in great detail.
 
Are you saying Biden, Obama, Bush, Clinton, Bush, Reagan, Ford and Nixon only told the truth? Or never flip flopped? Or were accountable?
Maybe a very small but significant difference is the other folks when they got caught in a lie they would give some sort of “got me”. Could be spin, could be blame it on a staff, or even “I have you wrong information. Trump on the other hand will double and triple down on what is on video . And because he likes to be seen there is way more video of him than other presidents .

After he doubles down then there are rino’s, never trumpers and fake news media .

And you know what all the other Presidents never lied about ? The election which is the foundation of this country . And why did he lie ?
 
Listen, you'll never hear me defend Donald Trump on any level. He's a repugnant human being. One of the worst, but certainly not alone.

Bill Clinton has been accused of rape by 9 women not including his shenanigans with Monica Lewy. Do you think there are more or less than that number? Do you think he visited Epstein Island for platonic reasons.

If I could erase Donald Trump out of American history I would do it in a heartbeat, but lets not pretend that the road to Trump was paved by virtuous politicians. Bill and Hilary are grotesque people.
One small difference Patrol… when event after event after event continues to pop up, it has to be exhausting for someone to defend the perfect call, what he said about disinfectant and light under the skin. The issue in the defense yes we embellish it, like sticking a light up someone’s ass, because the notion of someone who has such an influence over folks there are those who will take what he says as gospel . He looked stupid making those comments in public.

Bill Clinton if he had those numerous charges and it was about him all the time in the public , I wouldn’t defend him. Matter of fact throw him in jail for just the accusations without a trial if that means Trump goes in front of a jury to show there is no whataboutism and lack of being fair .
 
Well apparently you believe everything any the media outlet will tell you. The disinfectant thing was covered above. You can always educate yourself and do some fact checking.
Blithers … are you saying Trump didn’t say those things on video ? So was Trunp serious about somehow getting something similar (is that better for you ) to a disinfectant in the body and having a way to get light under the skin? Was that a legitimate effort to problem solve in the public square or was he just joking ?
 
One small difference Patrol… when event after event after event continues to pop up, it has to be exhausting for someone to defend the perfect call, what he said about disinfectant and light under the skin. The issue in the defense yes we embellish it, like sticking a light up someone’s ass, because the notion of someone who has such an influence over folks there are those who will take what he says as gospel . He looked stupid making those comments in public.

Bill Clinton if he had those numerous charges and it was about him all the time in the public , I wouldn’t defend him. Matter of fact throw him in jail for just the accusations without a trial if that means Trump goes in front of a jury to show there is no whataboutism and lack of being fair .

But he didn’t really say that Ed, he was just making banter with the experts!

Imagine if you will, Kirk Schultz had a press conference with Mike Leach sitting next to him after we lost an Apple Cup. Kirk suggested maybe if we just put 20 players on the field every play instead of 11. Maybe if we just deflated all the footballs that UW plays with. Maybe if we could roll some cement barriers out on the 10 yard line when UW has the ball to keep them from scoring.

Yes, it’s that level of stupid. And yes, you’d all be saying we had the dumbest university president in the country and he should be fired yesterday.
 
Lost in all this is the fact that UV rays stimulate production of Vitamin D. Which, in a vast majority of Covid cases, was a significant deficiency. So take your Flintstone chewables and get outside.

Weird how the big pharma push for their product never mentioned that.
 
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Fact checking is irrelevant when it comes directly from the source. I meant what I said about respecting your intellect BTW, regardless of your insulting response (I don’t care either). The most fascinating thing to me about his following is the intelligent people like you who cover their eyes and plug their ears to the crazy and stupid shit that comes directly out of his mouth or through his tweets. I imagine in time college psych courses will be covering this period in great detail.
Go ahead and fact check nuking the hurricane. Trump never said to inject bleach. Intelligent people should have realized that the media has been bigly (that's for you) spewing lies for ratings at an even greater extent since 2016. Open your eyes and use your brain.

I've voted for Trump exactly zero times. I say that because for because for some reason that means something to some people.

For bonus points, here's a video of Biden falling asleep at a climate summit. Should I assume that you support a guy that can't stay awake on the job?

 
Blithers … are you saying Trump didn’t say those things on video ? So was Trunp serious about somehow getting something similar (is that better for you ) to a disinfectant in the body and having a way to get light under the skin? Was that a legitimate effort to problem solve in the public square or was he just joking ?
Find it Ed. All of them. Post them in this thread.
 
Lost in all this is the fact that UV rays stimulate production of Vitamin D. Which, in a vast majority of Covid cases, was a significant deficiency. So take your Flintstone chewables and get outside.

Weird how the big pharma push for their product never mentioned that.
And here you are promoting skin cancer!!!!!
 
Go ahead and fact check nuking the hurricane. Trump never said to inject bleach. Intelligent people should have realized that the media has been bigly (that's for you) spewing lies for ratings at an even greater extent since 2016. Open your eyes and use your brain.

I've voted for Trump exactly zero times. I say that because for because for some reason that means something to some people.

For bonus points, here's a video of Biden falling asleep at a climate summit. Should I assume that you support a guy that can't stay awake on the job?


Did I once say anything about Biden? Why would you bring him up?….

Did I ever say the media wasn’t full of shit…actually said earlier 90% of it is opinion. Wonder why you’d bring this up?…

I never asked you who you voted for and I really don’t care. Your comebacks here are shockingly similar to what you’d find from your typical fan club member.
 
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