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WHAT ABOUT SHUMPERT?
This is a tough year to be a new HC. Rolo and staff could face some challenges building relationships. They are late to the party. Kids could be making “safe” choices. These kids have been talking with staffs for 2-3 years. Rolo just showed up.
I could see this class being decent but little star power. The following year could be much better as they have had the time to build relationships with kids.
ON THE CLASS AS A WHOLE: "It's a class that has good grades. The character is pretty solid. We'll find out more about that as we go along, but we feel pretty good about these guys. From a talent standpoint, a lot of these guys are developmental type guys. They need the weight room, but their upside is pretty good. They just need to get in the weight room and start developing, and we need to give them time. The only way you can get a mature football team is by bringing in young men and letting them grow up and giving them the time they need to do that. All of a sudden, you have a mature football team. That's something we don't have right now, but it's something we're going to try to get to as quickly as we can."
Where is this quote from?
The one positive this year is Rolo got to learn how recruiting the state is a total waste of time. He's about to go 0-10 on the states top 10 prospects in a banner year. This after putting in the necessary work to land kids. I can say calls for WSU to put in more effort into the state are just local coaches trying to build their reps on getting their kids one more offer. Or that they try to push Big Sky talent on a P5 school so they can brag about how many kids they've put into the PAC. This year proves it.
We have kids committing out of state sight unseen during a pandemic. Fact is the programing in state tells these kids going to WSU means they weren't good enough for a top offer.
ROLO read this Play just like he wants his QB to read the secondary with his adjuster In motion.
This isn’t coaches 1st recruiting rodeo. Didn’t cave & read his keys!
I feel like this posts needs more CAPS in order to truly maximize its potentialBS. ALL THE CREDIBLE SOURCES IN THE WORLD: Players, COACHES, friends, family, the recruits, EXPERTS(Such as Brandon Huffman), SHUMPERT'S 7 ON 7 ELITE CAMP ALL STAR COACH, ETC, have either SAID, SHOWN, ETC, that AT LEAST Alexander, and probably all 3 would goto WSU, if SHUMPERT was OFFERED, committed, went to WSU, and that SHUMPERT was a LOCK to go to WSU if offered.
Rolo not offering SHUMPERT, IS NOT ROLO making a SUPPOSED READ that supposedly offering Shumpert would NOT land Alexander, etc.
Tinae going to UW, and Alexander likely going to ASU, isnt them indicating that they would goto WSU if WSU/Rolo offers Shumpert, and then them changing their mind, leaving Rolo, Shumpert hanging, and then Rolo reading that, and not offering Shumpert.
Probably the ONLY reason Alexander isnt going to WSU, and going to ASU instead, IS BECAUSE ROLO DID NOT OFFER Shumpert. And so Alexander is probably like, "Well if Rolo, WSU, wont offer Shumpert, I'll goto ASU then".
WSU, Rolo was doing the best job of recruiting Alexander. All the indicators was that he might goto WSU, even if Shumpert wasnt offered.
The ASU did one hell of a job recruiting him. And it probably became neck and neck close between WSU, and ASU.
If Rolo, WSU, had offered Shumpert, then that probably would have broken the neck and neck situation, and gotten Alexander to WSU, since ALEXANDER TELL THAT HE WANTED TO PLAY AT THE SAME PLACE AS SHUMPERT. AND ALEXANDER POSTED PICS OF ALEXANDER, SHUMPERT, TINAE, IN COUGAR FOOTBALL UNIFORMS, WITH THE TWEET THAT THEY PLAY THE SAME PLACE TOGETHER ATTACHED TO THE PIC.
Also Alexander/Shumpert went to COLLEGE GAMEDAY WSU, and watched WSU beat Oregon, and they CELEBRATED, and they STORMED THE FIELD and continued celebrating.
YOU DONT DO ALL THOSE THINGS INDICATING THAT YOU ARE LIKELY TO GOTO WSU, IF SHUMPERT IS OFFERED by WSU, Rolo, and NOT goto WSU, IF SHUMPERT is offered.
Rolo blew it.
Not a read by Rolo.
That is BS from you.
Where is this quote from?
The one positive this year is Rolo got to learn how recruiting the state is a total waste of time. He's about to go 0-10 on the states top 10 prospects in a banner year. This after putting in the necessary work to land kids. I can say calls for WSU to put in more effort into the state are just local coaches trying to build their reps on getting their kids one more offer. Or that they try to push Big Sky talent on a P5 school so they can brag about how many kids they've put into the PAC. This year proves it.
We have kids committing out of state sight unseen during a pandemic. Fact is the programing in state tells these kids going to WSU means they weren't good enough for a top offer.
Where is this quote from?
The one positive this year is Rolo got to learn how recruiting the state is a total waste of time. He's about to go 0-10 on the states top 10 prospects in a banner year. This after putting in the necessary work to land kids. I can say calls for WSU to put in more effort into the state are just local coaches trying to build their reps on getting their kids one more offer. Or that they try to push Big Sky talent on a P5 school so they can brag about how many kids they've put into the PAC. This year proves it.
We have kids committing out of state sight unseen during a pandemic. Fact is the programing in state tells these kids going to WSU means they weren't good enough for a top offer.
Despite Rolo blowing the getting of at least Alexander by not offering 3 star Shumpert, and then offering, getting 2 star/NR, lowest ended 3 stars, Big Sky, Mountain West, beating out Div 2 colleges.
WSU has a brand issue. If the in state kids don't want to come it is a referendum on the school experience and football program. They aren't into it. Fine. Go on down the road and find kids that are.
It is interesting that kids will commit to WSU sight unseen and in state kids won't even visit. Imo, it starts with beating the uw. Also it's the money. Schools that shell out millions and build themselves into a 4 star school get 4 star kids. Schools that are frugal or spend wisely, well, they get 3 star kids.
Choosing a school for these high end kids isn't about college majors or scheme. That's all BS. They're looking for social status, luxury lifestyle, IG selfies. They don't care about playing time or depth chart. They care about fame and trying to look rich by living in a bubble of luxury.
Butch's Beat Volume 14 Issue 4 March 2008Where is this quote from?
Butch's Beat Volume 14 Issue 4 March 2008
BS. ALL THE CREDIBLE SOURCES IN THE WORLD: Players, COACHES, friends, family, the recruits, EXPERTS(Such as Brandon Huffman), SHUMPERT'S 7 ON 7 ELITE CAMP ALL STAR COACH, ETC, have either SAID, SHOWN, ETC, that AT LEAST Alexander, and probably all 3 would goto WSU, if SHUMPERT was OFFERED, committed, went to WSU, and that SHUMPERT was a LOCK to go to WSU if offered.
Rolo not offering SHUMPERT, IS NOT ROLO making a SUPPOSED READ that supposedly offering Shumpert would NOT land Alexander, etc.
Tinae going to UW, and Alexander likely going to ASU, isnt them indicating that they would goto WSU if WSU/Rolo offers Shumpert, and then them changing their mind, leaving Rolo, Shumpert hanging, and then Rolo reading that, and not offering Shumpert.
Probably the ONLY reason Alexander isnt going to WSU, and going to ASU instead, IS BECAUSE ROLO DID NOT OFFER Shumpert. And so Alexander is probably like, "Well if Rolo, WSU, wont offer Shumpert, I'll goto ASU then".
WSU, Rolo was doing the best job of recruiting Alexander. All the indicators was that he might goto WSU, even if Shumpert wasnt offered.
The ASU did one hell of a job recruiting him. And it probably became neck and neck close between WSU, and ASU.
If Rolo, WSU, had offered Shumpert, then that probably would have broken the neck and neck situation, and gotten Alexander to WSU, since ALEXANDER TELL THAT HE WANTED TO PLAY AT THE SAME PLACE AS SHUMPERT. AND ALEXANDER POSTED PICS OF ALEXANDER, SHUMPERT, TINAE, IN COUGAR FOOTBALL UNIFORMS, WITH THE TWEET THAT THEY PLAY THE SAME PLACE TOGETHER ATTACHED TO THE PIC.
Also Alexander/Shumpert went to COLLEGE GAMEDAY WSU, and watched WSU beat Oregon, and they CELEBRATED, and they STORMED THE FIELD and continued celebrating.
YOU DONT DO ALL THOSE THINGS INDICATING THAT YOU ARE LIKELY TO GOTO WSU, IF SHUMPERT IS OFFERED by WSU, Rolo, and NOT goto WSU, IF SHUMPERT is offered.
Rolo blew it.
Not a read by Rolo.
That is BS from you.
Butch's Beat Volume 14 Issue 4 March 2008
However, I still feel Rolo is bringing in better talent than Wulff in his first year.Scary how it fits our current situation too. Fortunately Rolo isn't dumb enough to brag about his current recruits.
Oh the F’n IRONY
His Current Offer list:
Georgetown 1-AA
Idaho St 1-AA
Montana 1-AA
San Diego 1-AA
Bucknell 1-AA
Army
Air Force
Shumpert is a 3, THREE STAR. Occasionally a couple, few, some 3 stars, and even a 4 star, sometimes dont get P5, P12 offers, or very few P5, Pac 12 offers. WSU has gotten past 3 stars and a 4 star that either had no an or ALMOST NO P5, PAC 12 offers.
Bottom line Rolo REJECTED A 3, THREE STAR WR, TO GET 2, TWO star, 1, star, NR(Not Rated), etc.
Last I checked, 3 STAR IS SUPPOSED TO BE BETTER THEN 1 STAR, 2 STAR, NR.
Like I said it would be different if Rolo were rejecting a 3 star, for a 3.5 star, 4 star, 5 star, instead of rejecting a 3 star, for a 1 star, 2 star, NR.
But all this is missing the point that Rolo PROBABLY BLEW getting Alexander by NOT OFFERING Shumpert.
If Alexander and Tinae would have 100% come to WSU but only IF Rolo offered SHUmPERt, then neither wanted to go to WSU. More power to them. Rolo didn’t blow anything. If they wanted to be together so badly, why didn’t Tinae and Alexander end up in the same spot at least?
WSU has a brand issue. If the in state kids don't want to come it is a referendum on the school experience and football program. They aren't into it. Fine. Go on down the road and find kids that are.
It is interesting that kids will commit to WSU sight unseen and in state kids won't even visit. Imo, it starts with beating the uw. Also it's the money. Schools that shell out millions and build themselves into a 4 star school get 4 star kids. Schools that are frugal or spend wisely, well, they get 3 star kids.
Choosing a school for these high end kids isn't about college majors or scheme. That's all BS. They're looking for social status, luxury lifestyle, IG selfies. They don't care about playing time or depth chart. They care about fame and trying to look rich by living in a bubble of luxury.
It's not a referendum on the school experience and football program. If that was true, we'd have a much better chance. It's a referendum on perceptions of WSU and Pullman that are inculcated into the youth of Washington--including in WSU's ostensible home market, Spokane--from the time they're old enough to read, made all the worse in today's era of social media and football recruits being social media stars in what for most will be the highlight of their lives.
COULD BE or maybe, possibly, perhaps, ROLO evaluates SHUMPERT and decided his ranking was in part, the causing of, due to, FACILITATED by, being surrounded, playing with, being helped, by HAVING OPPORTUNITIES given to him from having 3.5, 4, 4.1 star TINAE AND ALEXANDER, drawing coverage. Thus his production is tied to TEAMATEs, and not his own, personal, due to himself, PRODUCTION. OR MAYBE he decided he DIDNT want to be STONNGARMED into, taking, accepting, bowing to being forced into a PLAYER he DOESNT WANT. Some he thought had a 25-37% chance OF SUCCEEDING at WSU with the OTHER 15 HIGHLY SKILLED, talented, productive WRS. 53%
Alexander flipped the DB from Kentwood two months after getting hired.
Who's to say he can't do the same with the Kennedy Catholic trio?
For as long as I can remember WSU has been called second rate everything while UW is called a national power. Winning seasons at WSU received a condescending "It's nice you have a decent year every now and then." While disappointing seasons for UW have been treated as either bad luck or two an anomaly in a multi decade string of dominance. The average Washingtonian won't be impressed if the local high school star picks WSU. They feel the kid could play for the Cougs. Ending up at UW means the kid is objectively good. So does getting picked up by most out of state P5 programs.
For a generation obsessed with how much love they get on social media WSU won't bring them the respect they desire.
The other dynamic is a weird codependent relationship in the rivalry. Lots of Cougs just want some form of approval from Huskies. The entire fandom revolves around sticking it to UW. We have to win recruits in state because we can talk trash to UW. 2-11 is acceptable if we win the Apple Cup. It's sad. But nearly as sad as how Huskies need us to care about them. They pretend like Oregon is their rival but talk nonstop trash about the Apple Cup. They love to tell us they get the best talent in state (it's not like they are trying to get Oregon's attention with this comments). And they hate (with a fiery passion) any WSU coach who doesn't act like the AC means everything to him.
I did it once it twice, but honestly it's just low hanging fruit. For whatever content he may contribute, the endless rants and nonsensical numbers landed mik on my ignore list.I love mik and everything he posts on this board but I just want to point out that this is top notch parody. Can't believe there aren't more likes. Bravo.
As for NW kids, did anyone really think he would come in and turn it around overnight?
Well, it was once thought that if we built it, they would come. We did, they didn't. Some said that if we had a consistent winner, they would come. Leach did, they didn't. We did both concurrently, they still didn't come. Let's face it, there is no easy solution.
E-Town, you nailed it.Huskies need us to care about them. They pretend like Oregon is their rival but talk nonstop trash about the Apple Cup. They love to tell us they get the best talent in state (it's not like they are trying to get Oregon's attention with this comments). And they hate (with a fiery passion) any WSU coach who doesn't act like the AC means everything to him.
Personally, I think many UW fans mocked and ridiculed Leach because he stubbornly refused to make the necessary adjustments to counteract UW's defensive scheme, thus WSU got pounded year after year in the Apple Cup. I don't think his indifference to the Apple Cup drove them nuts at all....they enjoyed the results. One of those "fans" doing the mocking is now UW's head coach.E-Town, you nailed it.
Makes sense that so many arrogant and snobby UW types in the Seattle area mocked and ridiculed Leach simply because CML remained so even-keeled about the Apple Cup. Drove 'em nuts.
Meanwhile, those same idiotic fans embrace Jim Walden as a "lovable Coug" -- even though he kicked UW's tails several times and single-handedly returned the rivalry to Pullman -- because CJW made it clear the Apple Cup was just that important.
Now which fanbase is obsessed again?
He’s a Washington 3*. Which means he’s a Texas, Cali, Fl, Midwest 2*.Shumpert is a 3, THREE STAR. Occasionally a couple, few, some 3 stars, and even a 4 star, sometimes dont get P5, P12 offers, or very few P5, Pac 12 offers. WSU has gotten past 3 stars and a 4 star that either had no an or ALMOST NO P5, PAC 12 offers.
Bottom line Rolo REJECTED A 3, THREE STAR WR, TO GET 2, TWO star, 1, star, NR(Not Rated), etc.
Last I checked, 3 STAR IS SUPPOSED TO BE BETTER THEN 1 STAR, 2 STAR, NR.
Like I said it would be different if Rolo were rejecting a 3 star, for a 3.5 star, 4 star, 5 star, instead of rejecting a 3 star, for a 1 star, 2 star, NR.
But all this is missing the point that Rolo PROBABLY BLEW getting Alexander by NOT OFFERING Shumpert.
Personally, I think many UW fans mocked and ridiculed Leach because he stubbornly refused to make the necessary adjustments to counteract UW's defensive scheme, thus WSU got pounded year after year in the Apple Cup. I don't think his indifference to the Apple Cup drove them nuts at all....they enjoyed the results. One of those "fans" doing the mocking is now UW's head coach.
Glad Cougar
If you think Leach and Co didn't get kids (or Asst Coach's to Pullman, WA) due to the FOB and their on-field success you are either not paying attention or have no clue what you are talking about. Sorry this statement is filled with either unrealistic expectations or some type of a bent Coug agenda.