No self awareness if fine. Trying to post on this system not so much. Let me retype. How many times have I brought up Wulff in a post I originated. That would be zero. Yeah, I'll chime in when you say something foolish, which is most of the time with regards to Wulff. Pretty simple, he didn't work out, whether I think he was a good coach, bad, coach, or somewhere in the middle it doesn't matter. He is gone and you still want to bring up when JA was booted, as was three of Leach's players for off field stuff while at Tech. You want to Bring up players whether they were run or not. Nookie said rodges felt like he was. So? Players leave/quit all the time. Happened under Wulff, happened under Leach. And you seem to be naïve to think otherwise. Yes, Leach has run players. Make no mistake about it. It is what coaches have to do. You can't be stuck with players that don't either fit your system or you don't believe they can play.