Stretch 74 said:

We were talking about the uw mutts game, not the Cougars. Different days, different times.

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Ah! Gotcha. My bad.

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fuskies or traitor.

Bad news, the Miami/VT color guys slobbering or traitor wards knob.

Good new. VT leading in the 3rd, fuskies losing and just as undisciplined.

Suudy said:

And ESPN says 10pm ET.

Boise State 45-24 Washington State (Sep 28, 2024) Final Score - ESPN

Game summary of the Boise State Broncos vs. Washington State Cougars NCAAF game, final score 45-24, from September 28, 2024 on ESPN.

www.espn.com

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We were talking about the uw mutts game, not the Cougars. Different days, different times.

Loyal Coug1 said:

Good on both the booster and UNLV. Wonder if there was a team vote involved.

So here's a hypothetical: If the Much-loved Loyal says he's leaving WW for another board, will there be a big WW donor or a grassroots groundswell to raise funds to get me to stay?

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At least you'll have new people to talk to....

It’s pretty obvious his agent has secured a deal before this all went down. Kid can play and coaches don’t want to get fired.

He will be a front page story no matter where he goes. Sucks but, that’s the truth.

FS1 Saturday 7 PM PDT kickoff confirmed.

For the fuskie / SK game, if the mutts wanna win, feed the rock to Coleman. They seem inept otherwise.

And SK need to score every drive and eat clock.

Stretch 74 said:

For those of us in the Pacific Time Zone, the game starts at 5:00, which would be 8:00 on the east coast. On Fox Network, not Fox Sports.

As far as who to root for- it is always, ALWAYS, ALWAYS right to root for the mutts to lose! Every game/match, every sport, every damn time! We can root for every team other than the mutts to win other games, but not the butt-sniffing leg-humpers.

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This! Wasn’t there a season—mid 80s?—where we needed a fuskie win to get a bowl? They failed, we stayed home. F ‘em.

The question is if BJCC doesn’t throw because they don’t need to or they can’t. If the former, we are gonna struggle. If the latter, we win for sure.

Coug: 35
BSU: 24

I know, I’m on the low end. But at this point I think defenses setttle in and adjust well. Just hope I’m right they can’t throw.

Suudy said:

Eh?

Per wsucougars.com it is 7pm PT

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And ESPN says 10pm ET.

M-I-Coug said:

Correction. You’re right. Game is 5:00pm.

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Eh?

Per wsucougars.com it is 7pm PT

Loyal Coug1 said:

So, I felt compelled to watch the game. mutts already have 2 near-targeting calls, one of which included a late hit. Don't disagree with either call, it was iffy on the tagergeting. Kind of like the USC hit on Minshew in 2018. (Grrrr).
Rutgers looking like the Scarlet Pages so far.

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The Huskies are historically bad.

M-I-Coug said:

Correction. You’re right. Game is 5:00pm.

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So, I felt compelled to watch the game. mutts already have 2 near-targeting calls, one of which included a late hit. Don't disagree with either call, it was iffy on the tagergeting. Kind of like the USC hit on Minshew in 2018. (Grrrr).
Rutgers looking like the Scarlet Pages so far.

Flatlandcoug said:

So, a casino executive offered up $100k to keep the UNLV QB there and UNLV said, "Nope, we won't be working with that f#cker again" or words to that effect.

The thing is, the guy had 318 yards passing through three games. UNLV isn't playing well because of him. If our starting QB was averaging 106 yards per game, we'd be losing our flipping minds no matter what our record was. I don't blame UNLV for telling the guy to take a hike.

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Good on both the booster and UNLV. Wonder if there was a team vote involved.

So here's a hypothetical: If the Much-loved Loyal says he's leaving WW for another board, will there be a big WW donor or a grassroots groundswell to raise funds to get me to stay?

Here is what I think is currently most credible:

We took the top 4 MWC and did not offer UNLV initially because we could not trust the UNLV board to keep it quiet. The 4 we took really, really wanted out of the MWC.

Once there was visibility, Utah State wanted in and has a reasonable program. Done.

MWC desperately wanted to keep AFA and UNLV, and offered them a pile of money to do so. If they finalize that deal, AFA and UNLV will get some money and be locked in forever at the coming MWC level. Unlikely to ever get to the playoffs. And the MWC has shot their wad; no other significant resources to prevent another MWC team from leaving.

PAC clearly will be the best non-P4 conference, regardless of who ends up being #8. The PAC champion is almost certain to be in the playoffs, unless/until the rules change. The best you can do is play by the current rules. I think this is one of the most (if not the most) key points. Realistically, we now have a better chance at getting in the playoffs than UW! Boise and OSU can say the same. It will not be a problem getting an 8th team who feels the same way. It remains to be seen who that is, but I'd suggest that it really does not matter unless it is a big home run. And the home run teams have all managed to extort something out of their home conferences to get them to stay.

Our commish has handled the situation quite well. Getting the first 4 without leaks or warnings was just flat out a brilliant performance. I would have said it was impossible.

One last comment, only peripherally related: Given the recruiting realities, I see our recruiting future being 25 every year, with HS kids from SoCal & Sacto (2/3 of the class), HS kids from WA & WA adjacent (1/6) and transfers (1/6). We need to get 5 recruiters into SoCal plus 1 centered in Sacto but able to go toward the Bay if an opportunity presents itself.

He's a risk for any program. If the team does well, he might come out and demand more money.

On top of that, he's a career 57% passer. In 3 games at the FBS level, he was below 50%. He's got a 4:1 TD:INT ratio, but he's never thrown more than 266 passes or 2,500 yards in a season. He gets sacked roughly once per 10 attempts, and through his career at Holy Cross, he ran about as much as he threw (in 2023, he had 4 games with 20+ carries, 5 games with 100+ rushing yards. They went 1-4 in those games.). His production fell off from 2022 to 2023, and his team went 2-0 when he was out with an injury, but was only 5-4 with him as the starter.

Doesn't look to me like he's worth the money

ttowncoug said:

From yesterday, and a quote I agree with...

Still, the optics aren’t great. One retired long-time conference commissioner texted me a note on Thursday morning with advice for the Pac-12’s Teresa Gould: “Commissioner 101 — don’t extend a membership invite unless you are guaranteed the answer is ‘yes.’”

Canzano: Pac-12's next expansion move must be focused

Mountain West set to keep UNLV and Air Force... what's next?

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I disagree anyway. Whatever year it was that we invited Oklahoma & Texas and they turned us down - inviting them was still the right move. Refusing to give Texas the exclusive rights and unequal distribution they wanted was also the right move.

Those two moves were the last things - possibly the only things - that Larry Scott did right.

roses04 said:

At this point I don't think they need to hurry to add another team. Making decisions in a panic is never a good idea. The pac 12 needs to figure out the dollar number they can promise other schools before they go any further. You got 7, just need one more. First thing is how much do we actually owe the MWC, I thought it was silly suing them since we agreed to exit fees and poaching fees. However in speaking to a legal expert on this, he claims the Pac has a legitimate issue, which could reduce those poaching fees. Next you go to the networks, here are our 7 teams, what's it worth? if we add ? or ? Or ? what is it worth? They can get some pretty close dollar numbers with that. Once you're done counting money, you then you go to market with the money you have in your pocket, and offer teams, and what happens then only time will tell. If a team can net more money, after travel costs, by joining Pac-7 they will, if they can't they won't. I'd like to think, with all the consultants they hired they were given some numbers that will be reliable down the road, or this whole exercise in keeping the Pac 12 as a league was a waste of time.

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I agree 100%, and said something similar in another thread. Let the lawsuit play out a bit, figure out if we've got another $50M to play with, see what's going to happen with other conferences, etc. If we've got that extra cash, we can money-whip Memphis or UNLV or someone out of their current "commitment" to their conference. Any commitments they've made today will get real soft real quick if the finances favor them moving.

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That part should already be done. I don't see CSU, SDSU, BSU, FSU and USU joining without that.

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Probably, yes. At least a soft number that showed that with those schools the Pac-12 value > MWC value. But the final conference member will have some impact on turning that soft number into a real number. It's also apparent that whatever that soft number was, it wasn't high enough to justify the AAC exit fees for Memphis, and it was overcome by a one-time $20M payment to UNLV.

If we win the lawsuit and the poaching fees go away, we gain more flexibility to sweeten the pot and change the calculus for the 8th team.



Pulling in Hawaii as an 8th football member probably does little to nothing for the conference media value, and reduces the per-school share. Pulling in Gonzaga as a basketball member may create some value, but hard to say how much. And, I'm not sure pulling either one (or both) actually puts us over the top in members.

CougInSpain said:

He will not play QB anywhere next year. He burnt any and all bridges he had and didn't have. No one will want to touch him now.

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Some D2 school like Central will take him. 50% scholarship and no NIL.

Fair or unfair, I think it might be useful to say if we give you an invite are you signing to prevent any of the negative PR. That's my point.

Yes, all those years of conference realignment experience floating around out there, wagging their finger from the armchair like this isn't a brand new situation that literally no one has experienced to this degree.

Canzano and mystery AD can stfu until they've walked a mile. So can anyone else acting like they have the answers or could do it better. This is an unprecedented situation in unprecedented times.

He will not play QB anywhere next year. He burnt any and all bridges he had and didn't have. No one will want to touch him now.