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Hot off the press -Thoughts

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95coug said:
My thoughts?

Its funny that in the same 24 hours there are serious sounding articles that say we’re probably headed to the Big 12 now that UConn isn’t, that we’re rooting for ACC chaos to give us inroads there, and that we’re poaching MWC teams to rebuild the Pac. Of course none of the articles have the slightest evidence and none point to any verifiable sources.

The MWC within the last few days still seemed pretty unified and not terribly interested in merger talk…although things happen fast in CFB now, and money talks. Still, I’ll believe it when I see it.

Appears that Wilner posted a similar story 10 minutes ago, although I can’t read it. That gives it slightly more credence in my mind, although not much of his speculation has really been on target either. Plus, his headline only says 4 MWC teams, so the fractures in the rumor may already be appearing.

Either way, poaching 4-5 MWC teams still leaves us 1-2 short of the requirement for a conference, so can’t be the whole story.

I’m going to lose my mind if it’s Tulane and Memphis.
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This: I’m going to lose my mind if it’s Tulane and Memphis.

I hope they keep this conference out west, the only conference concerned about "Carbon Footprint". Not that I really give a crap about the conference Carbon Footprint.
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Hot off the press -Thoughts

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mikalalas said:
Whoa, how about, imagine that, me, others have been mostly to almost all the way right all along, and the lots of various sources, that me, others have used, that not ESPN, FOX, etc, have been mostly to almost all the way right all along, just like those type of sources were right about the PAC 12 falling apart.

But Yahoo sports isn't credible Loyal, or is it Loyal, is it time for you to maybe have some crow to eat?

Only thing I don't understand, get, is why the PAC 2/12 is targeting CSU, over, instead of UNLV. Did UNLV say no? Will UNLV be one of the 2 open slots to join PAC. If PAC doesn't get UNLV, either instead of CSU, or in addition to BSU, Fresno, SDSU, CSU, I think that's a Big mistake, since UNLV has started having pretty good football, started getting more attendance, TV eyeballs, started investing more, started increasing in value, and because of Vegas Bowl, and because of Vegas, UNLV stadium, etc, would be a great place for PAC office, football championship game if they have one, and for conference basketball tournament, and because UNLV is pretty good in basketball, etc.

I think candidates for the last 2 spots would be UNLV, Airforce, Utah St, Memphis, Tulane, UTSA, Liberty(12-0), North Texas, NDSU.

I think this is the right move, and it probably only going to cost about 100 mil, which will probably be replaced by the new PAC 8 media deal, increased CFP money, Bowl Money, NCAA future tourny units, PAC 8 enterprises, etc, in a small handful of years.

And Yahoo News probably accurately says that the BSU, Fresno St, SDSU, CSU, WSU, OSU, PAC 8 that the PAC 8 probably get semi automatic conference champ semi automatic, semi guaranteed CFP spot(Assuming PAC 8 Champ goes at least 9-3, 10-2

And Yahoo probably accurately, correctly points out that the PAC 8 media deal will probably be a semi lot, substantially more then the 5 mil MWC gets now, and a semi lot, substantially more then the MWC would get in future with BSU, Fresno St, SDSU, CSU, etc, so considering that MWC would get about 8,9,10,11,12 mil media deal with BSU, SDSU, Fresno St, CSU, then the about 16 to 22 mil extrapolation, was, is pretty accurate for a BSU, SDSU, Fresno St, CSU, PAC 8 after all.
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You've made about 100 predictions, and jumped on every rumor, you can't pick one and say look I was right.
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Part of me feels a little bad for the MWC left-behinds who now feel exactly like we did a year ago. But that, unfortunately, is what CFB is now.

I think it’s doubtful we’ll get our CFP representative back. I think that the remaining 2 slots are for Cal & Stanford, if they want them, and for UNLV and a player to be named later if they don’t.
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dgibbons
CougPatrol said:
Yahoo and CBS are now reporting it. Makes sense to me. You skim from the top and form a best of the rest alliance. Now you can offer yourselves to the ACC and B12 as their West coast pod, and if you don’t get any takers, you merge with the best remaining ACC left overs and top AAC programs. At worst, you have the best G5 conference in the Nation.
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Six teams sounds like a west coast pod to me. If Cal and Stanford become disillusioned (or more disillusioned), maybe a west coast division.
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dgibbons
95coug said:
My thoughts?

Its funny that in the same 24 hours there are serious sounding articles that say we’re probably headed to the Big 12 now that UConn isn’t, that we’re rooting for ACC chaos to give us inroads there, and that we’re poaching MWC teams to rebuild the Pac. Of course none of the articles have the slightest evidence and none point to any verifiable sources.

The MWC within the last few days still seemed pretty unified and not terribly interested in merger talk…although things happen fast in CFB now, and money talks. Still, I’ll believe it when I see it.

Appears that Wilner posted a similar story 10 minutes ago, although I can’t read it. That gives it slightly more credence in my mind, although not much of his speculation has really been on target either. Plus, his headline only says 4 MWC teams, so the fractures in the rumor may already be appearing.

Either way, poaching 4-5 MWC teams still leaves us 1-2 short of the requirement for a conference, so can’t be the whole story.

I’m going to lose my mind if it’s Tulane and Memphis.
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Sounds like we're trying to build a west coast pod.
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I wouldn’t be surprised to hear that UNLV is playing the long game. It might be them who declined. Everything about future realignment is tied to market and market size. Las Vegas is the crown jewel of corporate greed.

At some point, one of the emerging super conferences is going to bring UNLV on board. Can you imagine Georgia, Alabama, Texas, Texas A&M, Tennessee, LSU, etc. playing in Las Vegas? I can. I know how those fan bases travel.
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I do believe Gloria over played her hand, you know that SDSU and BSU were looking for options, even the Big 12 was looking at SDSU. As much as this sucks for the remaining teams in the MWC, we know how they feel, unfortunately it's what is happening to college sports right now. I have to believe this is a divide and conquer move, pick of the teams with the most value and the rest will fall. I have to think there will be 2-4 more MWC teams added without the fees. UNLV, Nevada, Utah St, maybe even AF. I just don't see CAL and Stanford being added back in, there strong belief in their academic standing will prevent that, I have to believe they are the ones that block SDSU from getting into the pac a year or two ago, when they put the MWC on notice about possibly leaving.
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CougSinceBirth said:
Can't say I'm excited. Probably the official beginning of the end for me.

If that makes me a sh*tty fan, so be it. I'm not going to pretend to enjoy watching some pseudo Pac 12 conference.
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The Yahoo Sports, Wilner articles imply, suggest, etc, that the PAC 8 will probably be a hybrid weakest P5, Best G5 conference, that will get 1 semi guaranteed, 1 automatic, etc, conference Champ into CFP, as long as at least about 9-3, 10-2. 8-4 might get a CFP spot, but only if 4,5,6,7 PAC 8 teams ranked in top 20, and only if beat a Georgia, Alabama type during season, otherwise 8-4, probably won't be good enough to make the CFP. But 9-3, 10-2, 11-1 would be good enough to make the CFP.

It's also been suggested, implied, hinted, etc, that the PAC 8 media deal will be a semi lot, substantially more then what the MWC would have gotten in future with BSU, etc.

MWC would have gotten 8,9,10,11,12 mil with BSU, etc, So PAC 8 with BSU, SDSU, Fresno St, CSU, WSU, OSU, etc, will probably get about 14 mil to 16 mil to 18 mil to 20 mil per team per year, and would probably get about 5,6,7,8,9 mil per year from CFP(they get 3.3 mil now as just the PAC 2), better bowls, probably at least what the PAC 12 had before the Traitor 10 left.

WSU, OSU, BSU, Fresno St, will probably be the USC, UCLA, UW, Oregon, of the PAC 8, and favored to win, goto CFP, etc.

While this is not the best, this is far from being as bad as you think and is pretty good, and if the conference does well in future, and that could very well happen, if PAC 8 get Memphis, Tulane in addition to BSU, SDSU, Fresno St, CSU, WSU, OSU, the media deal could increase to 24 to 26 to 28 mil per team, per year, and go from getting 5,6,7,8,9 mil per year from CFP to getting 9,10,11,12,13 mil per year from CFP, and could go from hybrid weakest P5, Best G5, to straight up P5 status, etc.

I think you should give it a chance, before, instead of assuming it's going to be bad, as this could be good for WSU, etc.

Also the PAC 8 could merge with the Big 12, ACC in future, and could get ACC leftovers from ACC in future, like getting Cal, Stanford, SMU, etc, and so could get even better.

Just give it some time to see what happens. I think you will be surprised by how good it will be, etc.
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Flatlandcoug
Observer11 said:
Makes me kind of wonder whether UNLV is Big 12 bound. Big market, marquee location for conference championships.

Or it could be UNLV and UNR are joined at the hip and named later.

Just seems weird that the Rebels are left out
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I'll be surprised if UNLV isn't in the discussion before it's done.

EDIT: Part of me wonders if this isn't WSU and OSU throwing down the gauntlet (along with the four mentioned MWC schools) that the Mountain West is doomed and that the rest of the schools had better get on board with playing musical chairs to see who makes the cut.
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UberCougars said:
I guess now we know why the scheduling agreement with the MW went sideways.
Wilner’s article doesn’t mention P-5 status will be retained in this new arrangement.

Is P-5 status assured? Any rumors as to what Media rights deal might look like?
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The Yahoo Sports, Wilner articles imply, suggest, etc, that the PAC 8 will probably be a hybrid weakest P5, Best G5 conference, that will get 1 semi guaranteed, 1 automatic, etc, conference Champ into CFP, as long as at least about 9-3, 10-2. 8-4 might get a CFP spot, but only if 4,5,6,7 PAC 8 teams ranked in top 20, and only if beat a Georgia, Alabama type during season, otherwise 8-4, probably won't be good enough to make the CFP. But 9-3, 10-2, 11-1 would be good enough to make the CFP.

It's also been suggested, implied, hinted, etc, that the PAC 8 media deal will be a semi lot, substantially more then what the MWC would have gotten in future with BSU, etc.

MWC would have gotten 8,9,10,11,12 mil with BSU, etc, So PAC 8 with BSU, SDSU, Fresno St, CSU, WSU, OSU, etc, will probably get about 14 mil to 16 mil to 18 mil to 20 mil per team per year, and would probably get about 5,6,7,8,9 mil per year from CFP(they get 3.3 mil now as just the PAC 2), better bowls, probably at least what the PAC 12 had before the Traitor 10 left.

WSU, OSU, BSU, Fresno St, will probably be the USC, UCLA, UW, Oregon, of the PAC 8, and favored to win, goto CFP, etc.
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M-I-Coug
Observer11 said:
Makes me kind of wonder whether UNLV is Big 12 bound. Big market, marquee location for conference championships.

Or it could be UNLV and UNR are joined at the hip and named later.

Just seems weird that the Rebels are left out
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Although UNLV has their amazing new stadium, they are, both in terms of TV eyeballs and history IRRELEVANT.

UNLV will most likely remain G5.

Also, there’s no guarantee we’re going to receive a Power 5 Status, as well. We’ll eventually have more clarity.
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M-I-Coug
UberCougars said:
I guess now we know why the scheduling agreement with the MW went sideways.
Wilner’s article doesn’t mention P-5 status will be retained in this new arrangement.

Is P-5 status assured? Any rumors as to what Media rights deal might look like?
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There is no guarantee this automatically makes the new Pac-12 a Power 5 Conference.

That will be clarified later, at some point.
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