ttowncoug said:

You prove my point. UNLV is staying in the MWC. UNLV to the Pac-12 should have been tee'd up.

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I disagree. The P12 was always better off skimming the top of the MWC. They just lost Boise, SDSU, Fresno, Colorado State and Utah State. No matter who we add as the 8th team, we’re assured of having the best West Coast conference.

It’s much better that we hold pat at 8 programs. We have flexibility now. An eventual East/West merger with the AAC seems inevitable.

425cougfan said:

Botched in the sense of being irredeemably screwed (like not being able to get 8 at least arguably reasonable programs)? I doubt it.

Disappointing relative to what seemed not just possible, but likely, a few days ago? Yeah, especially if you were on board with going with a national conference that might grow into a legitimate P5 conference someday, although my feelings were mixed on that in various ways.

Really disappointing if we somehow don't get UNLV and instead pay a lot of money to get Utah State? Yes.

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being stated that Utah State has some big donors stepping up to help finance the transition to Pac-12....

Botched in the sense of being irredeemably screwed (like not being able to get 8 at least arguably reasonable programs)? I doubt it.

Disappointing relative to what seemed not just possible, but likely, a few days ago? Yeah, especially if you were on board with going with a national conference that might grow into a legitimate P5 conference someday, although my feelings were mixed on that in various ways.

Really disappointing if we somehow don't get UNLV and instead pay a lot of money to get Utah State? Yes.

Meister_Rebel said:

Utah State as committed to the Pac12.
UNLV has committed to the MWC.

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You prove my point. UNLV is staying in the MWC. UNLV to the Pac-12 should have been tee'd up.

ttowncoug said:

....I would have presumed we'd have like 8 schools lined up prior to making the we are recreating the conference pitch. Although it sounds like UNLV and Utah State are ready to jump.

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Utah State as committed to the Pac12.
UNLV has committed to the MWC.

Meister_Rebel said:

Nothing else we could do without an invite to the PAC.

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I assume the state of Nevada wouldn't let UNLV leave UNR behind.

Loyal Coug1 said:

Oh fer F's sake. Back to the West Coast pod fantasy? That's your plan? Teresa "swung for the fences" and hit a dribbler back to the mound. My scenario is the only viable option at this point, and it is fading fast. Half the remaining MW has apparently signed a new GOR today. Gloria is out-maneuvering us bigtime. Teresa will be begging for a custodial job at MW HQ before the day/week is over.

Oh and the 4 MW traitors are kicking themselves right now. $5 sez they are on the horn to Gloria begging to renege on bolting. And their attorneys are scrutinizing whatever they may have signed with the Pac to see how they can get out of it.

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Nothing else we could do without an invite to the PAC.

dgibbons said:

First, don't freak out. You've never made it past this step.
Second, keep doing what the Pac-12 has been doing- position itself to form the best G5 conference possible or a west coast pod for the ACC or Big XII.

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Oh fer F's sake. Back to the West Coast pod fantasy? That's your plan? Teresa "swung for the fences" and hit a dribbler back to the mound. My scenario is the only viable option at this point, and it is fading fast. Half the remaining MW has apparently signed a new GOR today. Gloria is out-maneuvering us bigtime. Teresa will be begging for a custodial job at MW HQ before the day/week is over.

Oh and the 4 MW traitors are kicking themselves right now. $5 sez they are on the horn to Gloria begging to renege on bolting. And their attorneys are scrutinizing whatever they may have signed with the Pac to see how they can get out of it.

Loyal Coug1 said:

Ok Mr. "MW will always be there for us". What do you suggest now? Oh wait, you have never suggested anything, just talked shit to everyone else. What do you propose for our next step?

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First, don't freak out. You've never made it past this step.
Second, keep doing what the Pac-12 has been doing- position itself to form the best G5 conference possible or a west coast pod for the ACC or Big XII.

AF recommitted to the MW. The MW has given other schools like UNLV until end of today to accept the bonus packages and GOR. I still don't see how we can commit to a GOR with 2 years left on the contract.

Not a whole lot of options left for UNLV. We don't even have an invite to join the PAC.

dgibbons said:

Well, your pants are full of the brown stuff so that path is taken.

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Ok Mr. "MW will always be there for us". What do you suggest now? Oh wait, you have never suggested anything, just talked shit to everyone else. What do you propose for our next step?

ESPN is f’ing all this up. Colluding POS.

When Trump and RFKJ get back in DC, they can fix college football after dismantling the three letter agencies.

Loyal Coug1 said:

Well are you ostriches getting nervous yet? AAC schools have published their intent to stay in the AAC. Can't believe we were stupid enough to offer Memphis and Tulane ahead of UNLV and whoever. If that is indeed the case.

F-this Gonzaga blather. Won't happen, and would only make things worse if it did.

We are left with this: Regardless of what we have committed to the traitorous 4 on exit fees, we now need to offer them, UNLV and whoever else out of AF/Wyoming or USU UNR/SJSU. Commit to paying ALL of their exit fees. All 6 teams. So, $67M in poaching fees, and $102M in exit fees. $169M out of our $250M. The rest will already be spent this year.

Anyone see another path forward? If so, let's hear it.

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Well, your pants are full of the brown stuff so that path is taken.

Gonzaga deserves a full share they bring in more in basketball than we do in football

Should have taken the war chest, split it with OSU, and gone independent in football then teamed up to join MWC/WCC in all other sports moving forward. Probably would've benefitted both universities long term. Then in 5 years when realignment happens again you're hopefully in a better spot.

Well are you ostriches getting nervous yet? AAC schools have published their intent to stay in the AAC. Can't believe we were stupid enough to offer Memphis and Tulane ahead of UNLV and whoever. If that is indeed the case.

F-this Gonzaga blather. Won't happen, and would only make things worse if it did.

We are left with this: Regardless of what we have committed to the traitorous 4 on exit fees, we now need to offer them, UNLV and whoever else out of AF/Wyoming or USU UNR/SJSU. Commit to paying ALL of their exit fees. All 6 teams. So, $67M in poaching fees, and $102M in exit fees. $169M out of our $250M. The rest will already be spent this year.

Anyone see another path forward? If so, let's hear it.

95coug said:

And at the same time, John Rothstein is saying that there's no such deal.

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95coug said:

And at the same time, John Rothstein is saying that there's no such deal.

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If you believe that everything on the internet is true, it is a very confusing day.

Mandel and Dellinger are separately also reporting that Memphis, Tulane, and USF are about to reaffirm their commitment to the AAC and turn down the Pac-12.

The next news out of the conferences will be changes to their revenue model to pay Memphis, Tulane, and USF more money. Total coincidence though.

Reports are out that Memphis, Tulane and USF have turned down the PAC12 and recommitted to the AAC.

95coug said:

Well, here are the new rumors that I've read in the last 24 hours:

• The ACC is now considering offering Memphis and Tulane as contingency invites if they lose teams. This could create a bidding war between the ACC and Pac-12 that the Pac can't win and the ACC can't afford. (Don't really think I buy this, but just planting the seed could make the price go up for us)
• The Pac-12 is now also considering USF, and they've already invited Memphis & Tulane...both of which are weighing their options
• The AAC is trying to lure Air Force and (someone else, I don't remember) and basically destroy the MWC.
• The Pac-12 has reached out to Utah State with an invitation, but USU wants "additional considerations"
• The city of Las Vegas is considering a ban on all Pac-12 activities unless they invite UNLV. (yeah, because people in Vegas don't like money)
• The ACC is now considering inviting the 6 members of the Pac-12, lumped with Cal and Stanford, as their western pod.

I think that covers it. I think what's happening here is that anything that gets mentioned by any idiot blogger is getting picked up and reported. Most of these probably don't have a shred of factual basis, and the rest probably have very little basis. But nobody bothers verifying information before reporting it as news anymore.

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ACC would include WSU and OSU?

M-I-Coug said:

Gonzaga joins the Pac-12 for basketball, and all sports, except football. Deal not done....but on the way.

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And at the same time, John Rothstein is saying that there's no such deal.