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We saw that Saturday night flying through the sky.
That’s pretty cool. Managed to catch a star-link satellite train a couple of years ago by accident - I assume they had just been launched as they’re not supposed to be visible from earth when in orbit. One of the neatest things I’ve seen was the ISS with a shuttle attached on one of the last missions - super bright.

Teresa Gould addresses the realignment rumor...

Hey Mik, where do you get the $7million per team deal with the CW? I can't find a dollar amount in any articles. Not saying you are wrong, just like to see facts.

That said, you are pulling the $16-21 million figure for your G5 Pac-8 squarely out of your ass.
Yeah, when Apple wanted to pay $20 million per team with the old pac12 intact. I guess it means that the P2 is worth $7 million of that $20 million. I don't want to laugh but ...........

Teresa Gould addresses the realignment rumor...

Right now the MWC media deal is about 5 mil, less then the current 7 mil per team per year current PAC CW deal.

That 7,8,9,10,11 per team per year, mil range, is the EXTREMELY likely range of what the MWC media deal is likely to be in the next media deal in future.

Note. that 7 mil part of range is equal to what the PAC 2 is getting now from CW.

Note the 11 mil part of range is way short of the 16,17,18,19,20,21 mil per team, per year media of the PAC 8, if BSU, SDSU, Fresno St, UNLV, Memphis, Tulane join the PAC 8, which a lot more then the 8 mil per team, per year the AAC, Memphis, Tulane gets, and the 10, 11, 12, 13, 14 mil per team, per year that the AAC, Tulane, Memphis would get in future.
Hey Mik, where do you get the $7million per team deal with the CW? I can't find a dollar amount in any articles. Not saying you are wrong, just like to see facts.

That said, you are pulling the $16-21 million figure for your G5 Pac-8 squarely out of your ass.
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Pac-12, Mountain West ‘too far apart’ as negotiations over 2025 scheduling partnership break down

Probably. But the measurement on the money and attention aren't empty

They may be better off creating their own league, signing a modest tv deal, having a streaming option for every school where they keep what they kill on subs…. manufacture interest with new rivalries….. call it heroes vs heels like Vince McMahon would do…. invest in your league and make everyone good…. have your own rules around NIL…. go forward. Fck everyone else.

Pac-12, Mountain West ‘too far apart’ as negotiations over 2025 scheduling partnership break down

I'm a little more optimistic.

There's no way Washington and Oregon markets get ignored.

I don't blame them, but I think the Mountain West is trying to protect their dead weight.

Here it comes...

Wazzu
OSU
Boise
Fresno
San Diego
UNLV
Utah State
CSU

Stanford and Cal will be a coin flip to want back in.

The PAC 2 will try to get BSU. SDSU, Fresno, UNLV, Memphis, Tulane. If any of those don't join PAC 8, then UTSA, North Texas, NDSU, CSU, Utah St, as pool of possible subs, replacements, this is according to Scott Barnes, according to what Canzano, Wilner, Jim Williams, MHver3, Greg Swaime, Locked On Network, Twitter, unnamed sources, insiders, etc, all combined together have reported.

Teresa Gould addresses the realignment rumor...

Seriously.

It just floors me that people continue to buy into these idiotic rumors about us getting invited into the Big 12, or the supposed “west coast pod” of the ACC. Yormark has openly said that they’re not considering further expansion to the west. Last week news came out that they’re talking to UConn about moving east….yet somehow when some jack wagon on twitter says OSU & WSU might get an invite (same tired post that the same guy has put up every couple weeks for a year) people believe it.

The ACC BS may even be worse. There really haven’t been any rumors of this, people are just keeping it alive from pure speculation. The ACC didn’t even want Stanford and Cal - the only took them at 1/3 shares, a point where they’re actually losing money compared to the old Pac-12 deal. We don’t have the market those teams do, so we won’t even get 1/3. Besides, the ACC is focused on holding its membership together. If (when) FSU and Clemson (and UNC and Miami) make their escape, maybe the ACC will look into westward expansion in a desperate attempt at survival. But there are two serious issues with that: first, 4 teams on the opposite side of the country doesn’t make a pod. ACC will need to grab two more teams at least to make it functional. The second, and bigger, problem is that without FSU, Clemson, Miami, and UNC….what is the ACC worth? If those 4 teams leave, the ACC is a G5 conference too - at least for football.

If any paths to the Big 12 and ACC exist - which right now is some combination of unlikely and unfavorable - WSU and OSU have zero control over them. Odds are that we’d have to buy our way in with significantly reduced shares, which compounds the disadvantages that already exist. And, that path is most likely temporary - until the next phase of realignment leaves us behind again. Counting on a lifeline from the ACC is especially dumb, since it’s pretty clear that conference is a dead man walking.

We have two viable courses - find a way to cobble together a conference with current G5 teams, or find a way to make things work as independents. Neither are great choices. The second would at least allow us some flexibility when the next round comes, but probably leaves us short in the interim. But the simple truth is that the P4 has said they don’t want us. They’ve proved it repeatedly. The longer we deny the facts, the worse our situation will get.

The ACC, FSU, etc, are in a court battle, if that gets resolved before the end of 2026, and if FSU, Clemson, Virginia. Miami, North Carolina leave ACC by end of 2026, then ACC has already said per Jim Williams of the DC Press Corps, etc, that they have contingency offers to WSU, OSU, USF, Memphis, Tulane, BSU, SDSU, Fresno St to join ACC, if, when, if that happens.

Also if, when, if PAC 2 get BSU, SDSU, Fresno St, UNLV, Memphis, Tulane, then that would be a insanely tough PAC 8, P4, P5, G5, esque, hybrid esque, that would get 16 to 22 mil per team per year media media deal, that would get 4 to 6 to 8 to 10 to 12 mil per year from CFP, instead of the 1.8 G5's get, and the 3.3 mil PAC 2 gets now, and would get a 12-0, 11-1, 10-2, 9-3 PAC 8 champ 1 of the 12 CFP spots, and a 12-0, 11-1, 10-2, AAC, MAAC champ would not goto CFP over a 12-0, 11-1, 10-2, 9-3 PAC 8 champ
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Teresa Gould addresses the realignment rumor...

I'm okay with waiting for the 2026 season. But I'm more anxious to see where our new media contract negotiations take us next year. I don't believe CW will be in play for us. We may see TNT jump into the picture along with CBS Sports and FS1/FS2. Our 2026 media contract may look a lot better than what we have now. I won't speculate on the amount but, it more than likely will be larger than what we have now. I hope we can stay with CBS Sports. This last MWC Basketball tournament 2nd round games were all featured on CBS Sports. Eight teams, four games, shown back to back for 11 hours straight on CBS Sports was awesome. We dominated 11 hours straight on their network which is some serious exposure. Fortunately we had some good basketball this past season.

Right now the MWC media deal is about 5 mil, less then the current 7 mil per team per year current PAC CW deal.

That 7,8,9,10,11 per team per year, mil range, is the EXTREMELY likely range of what the MWC media deal is likely to be in the next media deal in future.

Note. that 7 mil part of range is equal to what the PAC 2 is getting now from CW.

Note the 11 mil part of range is way short of the 16,17,18,19,20,21 mil per team, per year media of the PAC 8, if BSU, SDSU, Fresno St, UNLV, Memphis, Tulane join the PAC 8, which a lot more then the 8 mil per team, per year the AAC, Memphis, Tulane gets, and the 10, 11, 12, 13, 14 mil per team, per year that the AAC, Tulane, Memphis would get in future.

Pac-12, Mountain West ‘too far apart’ as negotiations over 2025 scheduling partnership break down

Name one network willing to pay for this.
Uber, CW put their toe in the water this year to see how much of the sports programming will "stick" with their other shows. If they like the results, they will go further into sports programming. A rebuilt PAC would be a gift for them at this point. There is no way they will pay what the other P4 are getting, but there is a very good chance it would be worth a lot more than we are getting at present. This season's ratings, as well as "sticky" impact on attracting eyeballs to their other programming, will tell the tail.

Cam Ward

Anybody see the Ward quote. I don't have it exactly in front of me but when asked about the difficulty of playing against Florida he basically said that it was no where near as loud or difficult as playing against Washington.
It was a great quote. He went on to gush about how great WSU and the coaches were.

Miami's Cam Ward on The Swamp: "I played at USC. USC wasn’t packed, but it was louder than this. I played at Oregon and it was louder than this. The Pac-12 gets misspoken for. The Pac-12, that’s where I believe real football is played. ... Washington was one of the loudest environments I’ve played (in).”
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Pac-12, Mountain West ‘too far apart’ as negotiations over 2025 scheduling partnership break down

I'm a little more optimistic.

There's no way Washington and Oregon markets get ignored.

I don't blame them, but I think the Mountain West is trying to protect their dead weight.

Here it comes...

Wazzu
OSU
Boise
Fresno
San Diego
UNLV
Utah State
CSU

Stanford and Cal will be a coin flip to want back in.
Wouldn’t be surprised to see a couple of wildcard programs get invites if we go this route. North Dakota St. South Dakota State. Wyoming deserves a look as well.

Teresa Gould addresses the realignment rumor...

I'm not whining. I recognize the likelihood is slim-to-none. Waving the white flag right now will plummet whatever brand strength that currently still exists. If the administration quits publicly fighting, what does that say to fans and alumni? Why should they continue to care or donate or attend? It is still possible to work in the background to strike deals.

Good luck keeping the small crowd engaged with the university and athletics moving forward. With the current leadership at hand at WSU, it's only going to become worse, and people will devote their time, money, and energy elsewhere.
Did you see the stands on Saturday? It’s already happened.

By the way, for someone who was there - one of the stadium shots showed the practice field and it didn’t look like they had much set up over there. There were tents that looked like the pre-game broadcast and maybe the alumni tent, but no beer/BBQ and no bounce houses. Is that correct?

Pac-12, Mountain West ‘too far apart’ as negotiations over 2025 scheduling partnership break down

I'm a little more optimistic.

There's no way Washington and Oregon markets get ignored.

I don't blame them, but I think the Mountain West is trying to protect their dead weight.

Here it comes...

Wazzu
OSU
Boise
Fresno
San Diego
UNLV
Utah State
CSU

Stanford and Cal will be a coin flip to want back in.
Name one network willing to pay for this.

Pac-12, Mountain West ‘too far apart’ as negotiations over 2025 scheduling partnership break down

I'm a little more optimistic.

There's no way Washington and Oregon markets get ignored.

I don't blame them, but I think the Mountain West is trying to protect their dead weight.

Here it comes...

Wazzu
OSU
Boise
Fresno
San Diego
UNLV
Utah State
CSU

Stanford and Cal will be a coin flip to want back in.

Cal & Stanford will go indy before they join the league you have proposed.
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