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Apple subscription’s

I work in the communications business and I believe this would have worked if they accepted the $25 million they got offered plus increase with target subscribers. I would have gladly paid for Apple TV to watch the Pac 12 games. I don’t think people know the direction media is going. Cable TV is a dying product just like CDs, digital cameras and many other products. It’s all streaming digitally.

Info on Oliver Luck's Consulting Involvement

According to Mitch Vingle (on Youtube), a long time WVa journalist, and long time friend of Oliver Luck (went to school and graduated together), he and Mr. Luck have spoken and Mr. Luck informed him that he has been retained by WSU and OSU, not by the Pac-4 nor by Stanford or Cal. Mitch Vingle also stated that Mr. Luck, in addition to being the former UWV AD, has strong Big 12 ties, and was instrumental in UWV securing a Big 12 invite, when they were competing with Louisville for it.

He didn't provide any more info, but you can read the tea leaves why the Cougs and the Beavs may have retained the man.

This Info seems to be quite reliable.

This is such a nightmare

Can't for the season to start so we can forget all this drama/trauma for 3 months. WSU is so f-ed. I hope that every traitor school tanks, especially the mutts and ducks.

Meanwhile, f-it. Let's just beg the Mountain West to take us and OSU and get it over with. This coast to coast ACC chatter is just ridiculous. Mutts can have fun flying to Maryland and New Jersey for games in all sports.

I'll take trips to CSU, UNLV, Fresno and Gawd forbid (barf) Boise. And fire Kliavkoff NOW please. He was a trainwreck.

Hercules...

Lost his home he grew up in. His family lost everything.

Former WSU star Hercules Mata’afa’s family raising money for loss of home in Hawaii​


PULLMAN – A former Washington State player’s family is raising money for the loss of its home in Hawaii.

Hercules Mata’afa, a defensive lineman who played at WSU from 2014-2017, hails from Lahaina, Hawaii, where the death toll is near 100 as of Saturday afternoon from a wildfire that hit the region. Rebuilding efforts could reach $5.5 billion, according to NBC.

The family is raising money via GoFundMe “UH Alum Lale and Fam Affected by Maui Wildfires.” The affected includes Mata’afa’s sister, Lalelei.

At Washington State, Hercules Mata’afa earned consensus All-American honors as a junior. He totaled 123 tackles, including 47 for loss, the second most in program history. His 22.5 sacks are tied for fourth in WSU history.
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LA Times: Inside the Pac-12 collapse: Four surprising moments that crushed the conference

Very good article w/ new details not public.
1. They had a UCLA deal that could have kept them here if we would have given them more cash. Oregon said no.
2. On the $30M getting nixed, one of the schools, through it's professor, felt they could get $50M.
3. They had a linear deal on the table that got pulled when CU jumped.
4. The Apple deal could have had some linear components but was shut down due to UW/Oregon bailing to the Big-10.

All in all, I question how much information CU was giving the Big-12. Feels like this deal got sabotaged on many levels.

'Rebuild and Poach' or merge with the ACC?

It's likely we Rebuild and Poach. Maybe this is a "ClickBait" article, or maybe Luck is really trying to accomplish a 20 team merger? I prefer we Rebuild and Poach. Who wants to travel Olympic Sports across the country?

$280 million TV deal for the Pac-12 and AAC superconference if Oliver Luck succeeds in negotiating a fair deal: Reports​

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Can Oliver Luck figure out how to get a Pac-12 AAC superconference done?
Can Oliver Luck figure out how to get a Pac-12 and AAC superconference done?
The Pac-12 is in a bit of a mess, and there could be a Pac-12 and AAC superconference forming. The American Athletic Conference is looking to get recognition, and merging with the Pac-12 could be the way they do so.

One Oregon State Beavers fan took to Twitter to post a hypothetical superconference between the two conferences with divisions.


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This conference could wind up seeing $280 million per year, and that $14 million per team, if divided equally, still makes them the lowest-paid Power Five by far. However, that would be more than double the $5.94 million per year each American Conference teams make in their current deal.

This Pac-12 and AAC merger would definitely be interesting as all four Pac-12 teams stay together and get absorbed. The potential 20-team superconference could be the way things wind up in the end.

Are there any issues with the Pac-12 and AAC merger if structured this way?​

After the Pac-12 hired Oliver Luck to help figure out its situation, the opportunities of joining a superconference increased. The four Pac-12 teams – Oregon State, California, Washington State and Stanford – would likely want to stay together but there are a few issues in this hypothetical superconference.

One issue would be the traveling aspect. Flying across the country weekly could be tough for teams, especially on some of the Olympic sports. Another issue would be leaving a few teams off the superconference. In this hypothetical situation, there would be no Boise State or Fresno State in the equation.

What can make a Pac-12 and AAC merger actually work​

The American wants to be viewed as a Power Five Conference, and some coaches believe it is at that level. However, adding the brain power of Oliver Luck and Pac-12 Commissioner George Kliavkoff in a Pac-12 and AAC merger would be extremely beneficial to the American.

This merger adds a lot of incredible brain trust to the league offices. With travel issues, there can be something similar to other conferences' divisional play as they decide to play one or two nondivisional games during the season.

The money doubling is always good, but again, that is just a hypothetical figure. But there would likely be a massive increase on the current media rights deal. Asuperconference going coast-to-coast could work to make a name for itself.

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Follow up thread - electrical

The other thread was getting messy - what a shocker!

Here's how I feel. I am all for more electric vehicles, but the alleged mandate by 2030 is complete BS. I'll never give up my Subaru or Chevy truck.

What kills me is all these granolas that want to breach the dams - but how do they replace the electricity that the provide? Here in YakiVegas County, the redneck commissioners put a moratorium on a couple of major solar projects. Preaching a bunch of BS about loss of AG land, etc. These projects, if you've ever been to eastern YakiVegas county, are deserted wastelands. Loss of what - sagebrush and rattlesnakes?

So yeah - let's promote electric cars, etc. But keep it reasonable, and promote solar, wind and dam preservation to enhance it. Once Inslee is out, maybe some sanity will flow in.
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Pac-12 is a member in the CFP, LLC....per Dodd


Typical gloom and doom from Dennis, but the notion that we are owners in the CFP, LLC is an interesting twist (for me). Underscores the value of keeping the Pac-12 entity running.
"One source said to pay attention to the limited liability nature of the CFP. The Pac-12 still is a member of that LLC."

Administrative growth (bloat) at WSU

This has been discussed in a thread here and mentioned from time to time in other discussions. Below is the article from the SR that I had referenced, was able to find it online. Pretty hard to justify that kind of growth in overhead functions, if you ask me.




61 percent growth over past 30 years is nothing compared to 861 percent growth in administrators

March 10, 2019 Updated Mon., March 11, 2019 at 1:35 p.m.



By Shawn Vestal shawnv@spokesman.com(509) 459-5431

A lot has changed at Washington State University in the past 30 years.

The number of students attending the university has grown dramatically – by 61 percent between 1988 and 2018.

The number of full-time faculty members has grown quite a bit, too, though it hasn’t kept pace – rising 41 percent.

The number of grad students enlisted to teach has grown by 52 percent.

Campuses have been added. A new medical school opened. The football team started playing moneyball and got good.

But nothing – nothing – has grown in the universe of WSU like the number of administrators. It’s the bamboo of the university system.

In 1988, there were the equivalent of 208 full-time employees classified as administrative or professional staff, according to a chart compiled by the WSU Office of Institutional Research. By last academic year, 2017-18, that had risen to 1,999.

That’s an increase of 861 percent.

Only tuition, which grew by 482 percent, grew at a rate anywhere near the dramatic increase in vice presidents and deans and associate deans and chancellors and chairs and directors. And there are now 64 WSU employees earning more than $250,000 annually, according to the state database of employee salaries.

Most of those who aren’t coaches are administrators.

Which of course raises – again – the question: How much of the brutal increase in the cost of college is going to pay not for education, but administration?

This question is not so easy to answer, and the situation is not unique to WSU by any means. The trend has raced on for decades, and critics have long identified it as one factor driving up costs for students.

Across the country, tuition has risen dramatically in recent decades. Coupled with an erosion of student financial support, that has produced an explosion of educational indebtedness. We are giving too many young people a wrong-footed, debt-burdened start to life that’s a raw deal compared to what most of us who went to college a couple of decades ago enjoyed.

A 2017 paper by a pair of George Mason University professors concluded that most of the proceeds from that rising tuition revenue have gone into “auxiliary” non-instructional spending.

The authors of the paper, titled “The Changing of the Guard: The Political Economy of Administrative Bloat in Higher Education,” show that rising administrative spending has been paralleled by reduced classroom spending. Between 1980s and 2009, instructional spending grew the least of four categories: student services, academic support, institutional support and instruction.

Instructional spending per student rose 39 percent from 1993 to 2007, while administrative spending per student rose 61 percent, the authors said.

“Universities have increased spending, but very little of that increased spending has been related to classroom instruction; rather, it is being directed toward non-classroom costs,” the authors wrote. “As a result, there has been a growth in academic bureaucracies, as universities focus on hiring employees to manage or administer people, programs, and regulations. Between 2001 and 2011, these sorts of hires have increased 50% faster than the number of classroom instructors.”

In 2014, the New England Center for Investigative Reporting analyzed the expansion of administrative jobs at all U.S. colleges and universities between 1987 and 2012. They found an average of 87 new administrative or professional employees were hired at some college in America every working day during that period.

So it’s hardly a WSU-specific issue. Comparative figures for that time frame weren’t immediately available this week for Eastern Washington University or the University of Washington.

Phil Weiler, vice president for marketing and communications for WSU, noted there are several reasons more administrators are needed at the university now than in years past. WSU has added a lot of campuses and programs – a new campus in Everett last year, a new medical school in Spokane, and ambitious public health initatives.

In addition, there has been an increased need for administrators to manage an expansion of state and federal regulations, as well as to direct university efforts to raise funds and offer a range of non-traditional programs such as online education or professional development courses. And today’s students have much higher expectations for services.

However, Weiler wrote in an email, there is nascent effort among research universities to evaluate their levels of administration and compare institutions.

Which is overdue. As is an examination of the flip side of this coin: how the concentration of resources at the top is affecting that ever-more-costly education that we are offering our young people.

Rumors

Just consolidating things in one thread so I don’t have to find them in others

Somewhere below there’s a mention that WSU and OSU are on the verge of joining the Big 12. I can’t find a thing to support that online.

Stanford & Cal are apparently within one vote of approval to join the ACC. 12 of the 15 teams need to vote in favor, but FSU, Clemson, UNC, and NC State are not in favor. I can’t imagine FSU and Clemson changing their minds. UNC is probably thinking hoops more than football. Not sure I understand NC State’s objection. If Stanford wants to be in the ACC, NCSU is probably the weakest link.

What’s troubling me at the moment is the silence at WSU. There are always stories coming from them, but for the last week…nothing. I’m not talking about interviews and press releases - those are so polished and canned that they’re meaningless. I mean the ground-level stuff that leaks and indicates what’s really going on. When that happens, it’s usually a sign of something big and secret. I’m hoping that’s the case, but my fear now is that there’s no chatter because there’s nothing happening.
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