As a young girl my mother-in-law lived under Nazi occupation in Luxembourg. People like Goober and the functionally illiterate lawyer were Nazi sympathizers during the war. She had cousins that were shunned by the rest of her family and society for their wartime activities. Luxembourg was/is a very civil place: in other countries the fate of these people could be far worse.
Abandoning allies
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I wasn't aware that we had to run our sources past the Disinformation Committee for approval before posting. BTW, is the committee you, Coug90%, Simp Willie?
BTW, note that the article was not all about kissing Trump's ass, it did include some of his problems, and it was about his work long before he was the president. You guys struggle more understanding TDS than you would with a nuclear brain surgery text book.
FYI, I may answer this question that you raise. I have been mulling it over in my mind whether to give long, rational, informative answer to the question or just admit the reality that it won't make a ****ing bit of difference for the Orange Man Bad gang because they operate with horse blinders on and are incapable of processing any opinion that creates a miniscule bit of cognitive dissonance in their world. I'll let you know.
Sometimes you amaze me. Trump and Vance's body language and words were way worse than Zelensky's.
And the guy is 3 years into a war. Of course he would ask for more aid. Wouldn't you?
And the "meeting" might have well been a talk show. Again - why was this open to reporters given the sensitive subject matter at hand? Zelensky should have just said no I won't have a press-filled meeting. That's why they have press conferences. Absolutely disgraceful performance by the USA. And oh, tell me about Rubio's body language. Like WTF did I do this for?
It was the oval office presser photo op that we’ve seen many times. Why Trump didn’t clear the room when it heated up, I don’t know.
You’re forgetting that Zelenskyy has gotten everything or almost everything he’s wanted. He wanted ATACMS. Eventually got them. Then it was to launch them deep into Russia. And Patriot batteries, and eventually got them. And it was F-16s, and eventually got them.
But now he’s not getting something he wants- a security guaranty. Of course Zelenskyy is frustrated and desperate. But that doesn’t mean Ukraine gets whatever Zelenskyy asks for.
Pretty sure you’re free to go die for Zelensky.
https://x.com/mericamemed/status/1895659480584753527?s=46
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Or, the other interpretation:
Zelensky’s posture was defensive, and Vance’s forward lean, gestures in his direction, tone and volume were extremely aggressive.
Plus, he couldn’t get a word in as Vance & Trump kept talking over him. He kept a pretty even volume and seemed to try to maintain some decorum while his “hosts” went on the attack. His ambassador had her head in her hands because she couldn’t believe they’d been drawn into this ambush at the hands of a country that has stood for freedom & self-determination for a century…until a couple weeks ago.
Funny coming from a guy who fancies himself a wwii authority yet wasn’t aware/doesn’t understand a Goebbels quote, how it pertains to post-war Germany and their laws and what it has to do with Vance’s words in Germany and his embracing of the racist and anti-Semitic right-wing extremist AfD.
You didn’t like the results of a democratic election. That's the only conclusion that can be reached. You do know that the AfD candidate for chancellor is gay, and her partner is Sri Lankan. That doesn’t quite fit your narrative.
And, as previously stated, Zuck and Elon got their money’s worth.
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Simple answer for simple minds. Try harder.
And yes, Musk and the Facebook dweeb did get their money’s worth. Our country is for sale to the highest bidder, same as it ever was. Just a lot more transparent now. But isn’t this the very corruption the MAGAs are supposedly rebelling against? Funny that. Squirrel, squirrel, look at the squirrel.
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Ignoring facts you don’t like is indeed a simple minded approach. You are trying too hard.
Bonus question: on what day will Susan Rice be arrested?
Or, Victoria Nuland
https://x.com/ricwe123/status/1895571160332726683?s=46
Are alliances built on self-enrichment really alliances for the betterment of the country?
30+ years of neo-conservatism (including Obama and Clintons) has resulted in millions of deaths and created countless millionaires (billionaires)?
Enough is enough.
30+ years of neo-conservatism (including Obama and Clintons) has resulted in millions of deaths and created countless millionaires (billionaires)?
Enough is enough.
Let's be honest, this is only news because it happen in public. This isn't a Trump thing. Like the British before us, the USA has a history of strong arm "diplomacy. "
Talking about the bomb, Ernest Bevin, Labour (left wing) UK foreign secretary, had this to say in 1946, "We've got to have this thing … whatever it costs. We've got to have the bloody union jack on top of it."
This is what he had to say to the British cabinet, not following a meeting with Vyacheslav Molotov as you might suspect, but following a dressed down meeting with Truman's Secretary of State James Byrnes. Prior to that meeting, as a good socialist, Bevin was for scrapping military spending and UK bomb development. After the meeting, it was "we will eat grass to have the bomb."
Now imagine how bad THAT meeting went...
Talking about the bomb, Ernest Bevin, Labour (left wing) UK foreign secretary, had this to say in 1946, "We've got to have this thing … whatever it costs. We've got to have the bloody union jack on top of it."
This is what he had to say to the British cabinet, not following a meeting with Vyacheslav Molotov as you might suspect, but following a dressed down meeting with Truman's Secretary of State James Byrnes. Prior to that meeting, as a good socialist, Bevin was for scrapping military spending and UK bomb development. After the meeting, it was "we will eat grass to have the bomb."
Now imagine how bad THAT meeting went...
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