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ICE, Greenland, etc. - this is getting so bad

Let me know when the US cooks up a plan with one or more other countries to justify an invasion, launches the bombers, and when the paratroopers land.
The shock of a lifelong real estate guy making real estate deals.

Adding to the portfolio, ditching some worthless (800+ bases?) ones.
 
Depends on what one gets in exchange, I suppose.

Would that be such a bad thing if all nuclear weapons were dismantled and threats of mutual destruction taken off the table? There's probably any number of trades that could be made.

Would have to hear the term sheet. Just because for the Cold War period we were indoctrinated to hate Chinese and Russians doesn't mean things haven't changed. We hated the crap out of the British too in 1776. We hated the crap out of the Japanese in 1945.

Things change.
Chamberlain had that sort of thinking. Ultimately, when you start thinking you have the right to divvy up other people's futures, the slippery slope becomes utterly frictionless. Best to stay away from that approach.
 
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Many died in Korea, Vietnam and WW II. Only in Korea did the US go head to head with either China or Russia. In fact, to my knowledge the US has never been involved in a war with Russia (or even the USSR). We've had more wars against England and Canada than Russia.

In fact, I'm not OK with nukes pointed at us. Which is entirely the point as to why it is a good idea to sit down with those who have nuclear weapons and de-escalate that threat.
Like Kennedy did ? Who ever said don't sit down with them. Just don't lay down with them. You think Russia views us as "strong" that allows us to sit down with them, or Trump is a pussy they can control?
 
Let me know when the US cooks up a plan with one or more other countries to justify an invasion, launches the bombers, and when the paratroopers land.
Let me know when you are wrong about Trump believing he can serve a third term. Why do you think he doesnt care how the stock market does anymore?
 
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Chamberlain had that sort of thinking. Ultimately, when you start thinking you have the right to divvy up other people's futures, the slippery slope becomes utterly frictionless. Best to stay away from that approach.
Chamberlain and Hitler are dead.

We live in the here and now.
 
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Like Kennedy did ? Who ever said don't sit down with them. Just don't lay down with them. You think Russia views us as "strong" that allows us to sit down with them, or Trump is a pussy they can control?
Whatever I think Russia views us as is irrelevant.

It's what Trump and Putin perceive one another to be.

Were you this upset when Reagan and Gorbachev talked to one another? I know it's hard to fathom after 4 years of Joe not talking to Vlad.
 
Let me know when you are wrong about Trump believing he can serve a third term. Why do you think he doesnt care how the stock market does anymore?
Please provide a link or identify a post showing where I thought Trump could serve a third term.

Free advice- If you spend less time obsessing over every word the guy says you may enjoy life more.
 
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So...it's okay to taunt our allies and threaten them....as long as we don't allow a final plan to reach the public view?
Not really sure what you're trying to say here. What I'm saying is I'm fine with the US acting like a superpower. Sometimes that means our "allies" may not like it.

Free advice for you as well- If you spend less time obsessing over every word the guy says you may enjoy life more.
 
Please provide a link or identify a post showing where I thought Trump could serve a third term.

Free advice- If you spend less time obsessing over every word the guy says you may enjoy life more.
Great advice. Too bad none of the TDS club will realize that and go ahead and enjoy life more.

Apparently they are slow learners, not realizing that Trump says a lot of things for effect and for negotiating positioning. I keep waiting for some lights to go on.......
 
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Not really sure what you're trying to say here. What I'm saying is I'm fine with the US acting like a superpower. Sometimes that means our "allies" may not like it.

Free advice for you as well- If you spend less time obsessing over every word the guy says you may enjoy life more.

When it comes to telling people to just quit worrying and consent....the following video comes to mind.

 
Is America morally superior to Russia (or China for that matter)? YES. Or at least we were prior to Jan 20. Now, not so much.
So LoyalCougski in Moscow is inferior to LoyalCoug in Yakima?

Wait - I already know how you will answer that.

On what basis do you consider your average Muscovite to be morally inferior to your average New Yorker?
 
So...it's okay to taunt our allies and threaten them....as long as we don't allow a final plan to reach the public view?
Yup, perfectly normal to threaten to beat up your friends at school as long as you don’t actually show up by the bike rack at lunch.

So stupid. And this isn’t a “real estate deal” 😂. These are sovereign countries that have no interest in the U.S. “taking them over”. L. Absolute lunacy.
 
Great advice. Too bad none of the TDS club will realize that and go ahead and enjoy life more.

Apparently they are slow learners, not realizing that Trump says a lot of things for effect and for negotiating positioning. I keep waiting for some lights to go on.......
Well since he sucks at negotiating maybe he ought not say those things for effect 🤔
 
Well since he sucks at negotiating maybe he ought not say those things for effect 🤔
If he truly sucked at it, he wouldn't have gotten Canada to beef up border security. Or Mexico to do that also. Or El Salvador to take the MS 13 charity workers into their supermax prison. Or at least get Putin and Zelensky talking about a cease fire and a path to peace. Or been able to get several hostages returned home. Or get some NATO countries to get their defense spending pushed up closer to what they are obligated to.

But yeah, I can certainly see where you are coming from.......
 
If he truly sucked at it, he wouldn't have gotten Canada to beef up border security. Or Mexico to do that also. Or El Salvador to take the MS 13 charity workers into their supermax prison. Or at least get Putin and Zelensky talking about a cease fire and a path to peace. Or been able to get several hostages returned home. Or get some NATO countries to get their defense spending pushed up closer to what they are obligated to.

But yeah, I can certainly see where you are coming from.......
That's damn near as busy as Joe Biden's auto-pen.
 
If he truly sucked at it, he wouldn't have gotten Canada to beef up border security. Or Mexico to do that also. Or El Salvador to take the MS 13 charity workers into their supermax prison. Or at least get Putin and Zelensky talking about a cease fire and a path to peace. Or been able to get several hostages returned home. Or get some NATO countries to get their defense spending pushed up closer to what they are obligated to.

But yeah, I can certainly see where you are coming from.......

FWIW, the Canada border security package was put forth when Biden was President and finalized under Trump. Would they have waffled and not finished it without Trump's threats? Who knows....

When it comes to Putin, Trump doesn't even realize that he is the victim of masterclass negotiating by Putin. Russia is giving up nothing and getting Trump to force Zelensky into concessions. If Putin was a car salesman....Trump is definitely paying for that undercoating.

I'm glad that Trump was able to force NATO to up their spending....but it's too bad that he's such an asshole that he can't just go home with a win....he's gotta try to push for more all the time.

So...Trump is hit or miss at negotiating but he's undeniably great at demanding approval when he thinks he might have had any influence on anything....real or perceived.
 
So LoyalCougski in Moscow is inferior to LoyalCoug in Yakima?

Wait - I already know how you will answer that.

On what basis do you consider your average Muscovite to be morally inferior to your average New Yorker?
Tell you what. Move to Russia and report back in a year or two. The USA certainly doesn't need you. And to answer your question, everyone is morally (and intellectually) inferior to the Mighty Loyal One.
 
Tell you what. Move to Russia and report back in a year or two. The USA certainly doesn't need you. And to answer your question, everyone is morally (and intellectually) inferior to the Mighty Loyal One.
I asked you what your basis was. Is it safe to assume you've spent significant time in Russia?
 
Whatever I think Russia views us as is irrelevant.

It's what Trump and Putin perceive one another to be.

Were you this upset when Reagan and Gorbachev talked to one another? I know it's hard to fathom after 4 years of Joe not talking to Vlad.
Oh .... you mean talk without someone to recros the call?

No... not in favor of that. I am fine with dialogue like two diplomats have conducted themselves in the past, like Reagan .

And I prefer someone who knows how to negotiate...
 
You have nothing to offer except name calling.

Thanks for your contributions to this thread.
Honest question: how is it that you have so much time, let alone the fanatical inclination, to rabidly defend Trump?

Do you do any actual work while you’re at work? Or are you spending your days hiding out at The Viking trying to fool your wife that you’re at work?
 
Oh .... you mean talk without someone to recros the call?

No... not in favor of that. I am fine with dialogue like two diplomats have conducted themselves in the past, like Reagan .

And I prefer someone who knows how to negotiate...
I think they should blifden the call instead.

I suppose you would prefer to have Gropey Joe back in office? I hear he is a tremendous negotiator!
 
I think they should blifden the call instead.

I suppose you would prefer to have Gropey Joe back in office? I hear he is a tremendous negotiator!
Whoever negotiated his vacation package should be commended. That was next level load management.

Joel Embid doesn't take that many days off.
 
If he truly sucked at it, he wouldn't have gotten Canada to beef up border security. Or Mexico to do that also. Or El Salvador to take the MS 13 charity workers into their supermax prison. Or at least get Putin and Zelensky talking about a cease fire and a path to peace. Or been able to get several hostages returned home. Or get some NATO countries to get their defense spending pushed up closer to what they are obligated to.

But yeah, I can certainly see where you are coming from.......
Ah yes, if Putin had only read “Art of the Deal” perhaps he could have had Poland and Georgia thrown in with everything else Trump handed him.
 
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Naw. This is so much better 😂
WTF does this even mean?

"It was a very heavy truck, like a toy, but I mean really heavy."

Just say that 3 soldiers are confirmed dead, 1 is missing and we are establishing what happened. Then STFU.
 
WTF does this even mean?

"It was a very heavy truck, like a toy, but I mean really heavy."

Just say that 3 soldiers are confirmed dead, 1 is missing and we are establishing what happened. Then STFU.
He’s clueless. This isn’t something that has to be pulled from some press gaffe a month ago either. This type of nonsense is a daily occurrence.
 
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Ah yes, if Putin had only read “Art of the Deal” perhaps he could have had Poland and Georgia thrown in with everything else Trump handed him.
At this point, the war is still going on and Trump has not handed Putin a damn thing. If anything has been handed to Putin it was Biden, who simply muttered "Don't" a couple times instead of mustering all the European allies into massing at the border and stopping Putin from ever crossing into Ukraine in the first place.
 
I think they should blifden the call instead.

I suppose you would prefer to have Gropey Joe back in office? I hear he is a tremendous negotiator!
I would prefer someone who is coherent and has qualified people around him. Never was just a binary choice

And I would really prefer someone not found liable for rape and someone who is not a convicted felon. Low bar I know...
 
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At this point, the war is still going on and Trump has not handed Putin a damn thing. If anything has been handed to Putin it was Biden, who simply muttered "Don't" a couple times instead of mustering all the European allies into massing at the border and stopping Putin from ever crossing into Ukraine in the first place.
Wait… still going on? what happened to that ceasefire he so masterfully negotiated. Art of the deal!!
 
I would prefer someone who is coherent and has qualified people around him. Never was just a binary choice

And I would really prefer someone not found liable for rape and someone who is not a convicted felon. Low bar I know...
I mean to be fair Ol Joe was pretty incoherent at the end. But any reasonable person who has watched and listened to this nonsense and has also watched weekend at Bernie’s can come to a reasonable conclusion that a dead guy would make a better leader.
 
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At this point, the war is still going on and Trump has not handed Putin a damn thing. If anything has been handed to Putin it was Biden, who simply muttered "Don't" a couple times instead of mustering all the European allies into massing at the border and stopping Putin from ever crossing into Ukraine in the first place.

He's already gotten Zelensky to agree to negotiate giving up territory in exchange for peace (although Putin laughed and wanted more). He got Ukraine to stop hitting Russian fuel depots while Russia is not honoring their end of the bargain. He got Zelensky to offer to resign in exchange for a peace that wasn't coming. Trump allowed Ukrainians to get killed more easily by withholding intel from them so Russia could hit them while they were blinded. Rubio has already said that Ukraine joining NATO was not going to happen. Trump has weakened the NATO alliance because he's a petty little dictator that craves adoration and Europe wasn't giving him enough accolades.

So yeah.....Trump has been very helpful to Putin. Of course, you can always yell, "But.....Biden!" as your defense. Maybe blame Hillary while you are at it....or maybe it was Hunter Biden's laptop. It's hard to keep track of MAGA's worthless f#cking excuses for how "The Great Negotiator" is failing to get anything meaningful done in Ukraine.
 
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He's already gotten Zelensky to agree to negotiate giving up territory in exchange for peace (although Putin laughed and wanted more). He got Ukraine to stop hitting Russian fuel depots while Russia is not honoring their end of the bargain. He got Zelensky to offer to resign in exchange for a peace that wasn't coming. Trump allowed Ukrainians to get killed more easily by withholding intel from them so Russia could hit them while they were blinded. Rubio has already said that Ukraine joining NATO was not going to happen. Trump has weakened the NATO alliance because he's a petty little dictator that craves adoration and Europe wasn't giving him enough accolades.

So yeah.....Trump has been very helpful to Putin. Of course, you can always yell, "But.....Biden!" as your defense. Maybe blame Hillary while you are at it....or maybe it was Hunter Biden's laptop. It's hard to keep track of MAGA's worthless f#cking excuses for how "The Great Negotiator" is failing to get anything meaningful done in Ukraine.
You forgot…TDS!!!
 
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