Pac-12 Expansion

[wazzucougs96]

I wish public universities would think outside the box and expand their degree offerings to include some trade school degrees.

Get ahead of the curve and work with tech companies to offer 2-year or 4-year degree programs. Offer traditional trade degrees to kids who would enjoy the college experience, but who aren't academically inclined. Spashing in some entry level business, social sciences, and public speaking training to kids who want to pursue traditional blue collar trades would dramatically help them out.

When it comes to tech degrees available, WSU is about 40 years behind the times. There is a reason that every tech company in Seattle is loaded with software engineers from UW/Cal/Stanford and their sales staffs are loaded with WSU grads.

 

[moxeecoug]

I'll bite. Why is this not a no-brainer?

Because two big brand names are gone and we're replacing them with two non big brand names.

It's their name and image. Nothing else. SDSU and UNLV are both good schools with good facilities.

But....using retail names as an example for the image in peoples minds:

USC = Neiman Marcus

UCLA = Nordstrom

SDSU = Sears

UNLV = Kmart

If you don't like that example then:

Tiffany & Co vs. Kay Jewelers, or Rolex vs. Timex.

Nothing wrong with Kay Jewelers and Timex, but you get my point.

We are disappointed there's no Big Name school replacing USC and UCLA. Nothing to get excited for and it does't strengthen the image of the Pac-12 Conference.

That's why.

Again, SDSU and UNLV are good schools. Just not a Big Name replacement. And we have no other school options.

It weakens the image of the Pac-12.

That's why.

Any expansion would not be about replacing USC and UCLA, it would be about PAC12 survival and remaining a viable league. USC and UCLA can’t be replaced so the PAC12 has to move on and go with viable options that while not perfect, may help the PAC12 become a better league in the long term with new blood being added. I don’t think the PAC12 staying with 10 members is a viable option at this point, it’s either expansion or the PAC12 dies.

While the concerns about programs such as SDSU, Fresno State, SMU, and Boise State joining the PAC12 may be legit at least initially, I think they would catch up with rest of the league a lot quicker then people realize. These are very good programs who are ready to compete on a bigger stage. Utah is a prime example of this. It took them a couple years of adjustment after joining and they have now been conference champs two years in row and has been a strong member for a number of years now. I don’t know that much about SMU but SDSU, FSU and BSU have very good track records over the years and have shown they can become very good members of the PAC12 if given the chance. I hope the PAC12 seriously considers those four programs. UNLV has too much to prove to even be considered at this point.

 

[Chucksizzle1]

Boise State is a solid addition and probably a better football program than ucla.

unlv may not be there yet but hiring Odom and Petrino, if they have the financial backing they will be good in no time.

 

[Loyal Coug1]

Boise State is a solid addition and probably a better football program than ucla.

unlv may not be there yet but hiring Odom and Petrino, if they have the financial backing they will be good in no time.

NO on Boise State community college and truck driving school. NO NO NO.