Think WSU's deficit is bad?

[Loyal Coug]

Article on UConn's potential move back to the Big (L)East, which no longer plays football.
That's a DEFICIT (one year) of $40.5 million, not DEBT (cumulative).

"However, this could increase calls for Connecticut to seriously consider the future of its football team, or at the very least ponder a drop down to the FCS level. The athletic department had a roughly $40.5 million deficit in 2018, with football losing $8.7 million."

https://bleacherreport.com/articles...om&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=editorial

 

[mikalalas]

Article on UConn's potential move back to the Big (L)East, which no longer plays football.
That's a DEFICIT (one year) of $40.5 million, not DEBT (cumulative).

"However, this could increase calls for Connecticut to seriously consider the future of its football team, or at the very least ponder a drop down to the FCS level. The athletic department had a roughly $40.5 million deficit in 2018, with football losing $8.7 million."

https://bleacherreport.com/articles...om&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=editorial

Wow, how the mighty has fallen. Uconn has gone to sweet 16's, Elite 8's, Final Fours, even, maybe 1,2,3,4, etc, Final 2's, championship games, and maybe even 1,2,3 National Championships, all in the FBS, NCAA tourney. Also usually makes NCAA at least every other year at worst. Usually wins at least 16+ games a season.

This both in Men's and Women's basketball.

If Uconn falls to FCS, it would be a mighty fall of one of the mighty semi blue blood basketball programs.

Wow.

 

[mikalalas]

Also if Mighty Uconn can fall like that from the Big East(Used to be weakest Power 6 conference in the bowl coalition, BCS), to a group of 5, Mid Major AAC conference, and then fall to FCS, that means that THEORETICALLY, WSU COULD fall from the Pac 12 to the Mountain West, then to Big Sky as FCS. And Pac 12 could go the way of Big East, Big 12, become like the Mountain West, AAC, group of 5, Mid Major Conferences.

NOT saying it will, would happen to Pac 12, WSU, but if it can happen to Big East, and UConn, it could theoretically happen to Pac 12, WSU.

WSU, and the Pac 12, needs to learn from this, and be very careful, so that does not happen to Pac 12, WSU.

 

[Loyal Coug]

Also if Mighty Uconn can fall like that from the Big East(Used to be weakest Power 6 conference in the bowl coalition, BCS), to a group of 5, Mid Major AAC conference, and then fall to FCS, that means that THEORETICALLY, WSU COULD fall from the Pac 12 to the Mountain West, then to Big Sky as FCS. And Pac 12 could go the way of Big East, Big 12, become like the Mountain West, AAC, group of 5, Mid Major Conferences.

NOT saying it will, would happen to Pac 12, WSU, but if it can happen to Big East, and UConn, it could theoretically happen to Pac 12, WSU.

WSU, and the Pac 12, needs to learn from this, and be very careful, so that does not happen to Pac 12, WSU.

This is a pretty ridiculous comparison. Go review UConn's football and conference history. They came from the Yankee and Atlantic-10 conferences to a short tenure in the Big Least, and were never a football school.

Losing $8 million on Football pretty much says it all.

If D-1 football ever goes to a super conference(s) of 64 teams in 4 leagues, then WSU and several other smaller programs in the Power 5 could be at risk. If I count correctly there are 64 teams in the Power 5 now, plus ND. So one team nationally would have to go. I like our chances in that scenario.

 

[random soul]

Also if Mighty Uconn can fall like that from the Big East(Used to be weakest Power 6 conference in the bowl coalition, BCS), to a group of 5, Mid Major AAC conference, and then fall to FCS, that means that THEORETICALLY, WSU COULD fall from the Pac 12 to the Mountain West, then to Big Sky as FCS. And Pac 12 could go the way of Big East, Big 12, become like the Mountain West, AAC, group of 5, Mid Major Conferences.

NOT saying it will, would happen to Pac 12, WSU, but if it can happen to Big East, and UConn, it could theoretically happen to Pac 12, WSU.

WSU, and the Pac 12, needs to learn from this, and be very careful, so that does not happen to Pac 12, WSU.

What does any of this have to do with football? Your recitation of UConn's basketball resume' has precisely zilch to do with the fate of the football program, and may only effect which conference basketball has to play in. Georgetown is FCS, so is Villanova, U of New Hampshire, plenty of peer schools in the region. Gonzaga doesn't have a football program at all. Just because the football program may step down, or go away entirely, doesn't mean their entire athletics department is dropping down to Division 3.

 

[mikalalas]

This is a pretty ridiculous comparison. Go review UConn's football and conference history. They came from the Yankee and Atlantic-10 conferences to a short tenure in the Big Least, and were never a football school.

Losing $8 million on Football pretty much says it all.

If D-1 football ever goes to a super conference(s) of 64 teams in 4 leagues, then WSU and several other smaller programs in the Power 5 could be at risk. If I count correctly there are 64 teams in the Power 5 now, plus ND. So one team nationally would have to go. I like our chances in that scenario.

Wasnt talking about football. And yes I did know that Uconn came from the Atlantic 10(Just so you know, the Atlantic 10 was probably the best group of 5, Mid Major BASKETBALL conference and might even have occasionally been better then occasionally even 1 of the Power 6 conferences back in the day), and transfered, became part of the Big East, tho I didnt know they came from Yankee conference, and never heard of Yankee conference.

The Big East was only the Big Least in Football. In basketball the Big East was tied with the ACC as the best 2 conferences in basketball.

Uconn was in fact a BASKETBALL SEMI BLUE BLOOD BASKETBALL PROGRAM LIKE:

Indiana, Syracuse, Wake Forest, Depaul, Louisville, Memphis, Marquette, Xavier, Seton Hall, Michigan, Michigan St, Missouri, Pitt, Vtech, Virginia, Florida, Florida St, Arizona, Tennessee(Womens, and sometimes men as well), Clemson, Texas, Oklahoma, Gonzaga, etc.

I leave off teams like UCLA, Duke, Kentucky, Kansas, North Carolina, because they are Blueblood badketball programs, instead of SEMI blue blood ish basketball program like the ones listed, Uconn.

And like I said, Uconn has gone to LOTS of NCAA Tourneys, lots of sweet 16's, some, lots of Elite 8's, a few, some final fours, a few final 2's, a couple, few championships.

And thats in both Men, and Womens Basketball.

In womens basketball, the only team as good as Uconn was, was, has been Tennessee.

Tennessee, and Uconn were usually the top 2 to beat, on the womens basketball side.

So not talking about football, in regards to Uconn.

Was talking about basketball.

And for such a rich, storied, traditioned, semi blue blood basketball program that Uconn was to fall to FCS, is a MIGHTY FALL.

That would be like if DUKE were to fall to FCS, that would also be a mighty fall, just like Uconn is a mighty fall.

 

[mikalalas]

What does any of this have to do with football? Your recitation of UConn's basketball resume' has precisely zilch to do with the fate of the football program, and may only effect which conference basketball has to play in. Georgetown is FCS, so is Villanova, U of New Hampshire, plenty of peer schools in the region. Gonzaga doesn't have a football program at all. Just because the football program may step down, or go away entirely, doesn't mean their entire athletics department is dropping down to Division 3.

The reason is that if a Duke, Uconn, Kansas, basketball power can fall to FCS:

A football power can fall to FCS

And if a football power can fall to FCS

WSU could in theory, theoretically speaking fall to FCS, someday, far off in future, if not careful.

That is how this, it pertains to football.

 

[random soul]

Wasnt talking about football. And yes I did know that Uconn came from the Atlantic 10(Just so you know, the Atlantic 10 was probably the best group of 5, Mid Major BASKETBALL conference and might even have occasionally been better then occasionally even 1 of the Power 6 conferences back in the day), and transfered, became part of the Big East, tho I didnt know they came from Yankee conference, and never heard of Yankee conference.

The Big East was only the Big Least in Football. In basketball the Big East was tied with the ACC as the best 2 conferences in basketball.

Uconn was in fact a BASKETBALL SEMI BLUE BLOOD BASKETBALL PROGRAM LIKE:

Indiana, Syracuse, Wake Forest, Depaul, Louisville, Memphis, Marquette, Xavier, Seton Hall, Michigan, Michigan St, Missouri, Pitt, Vtech, Virginia, Florida, Florida St, Arizona, Tennessee(Womens, and sometimes men as well), Clemson, Texas, Oklahoma, Gonzaga, etc.

I leave off teams like UCLA, Duke, Kentucky, Kansas, North Carolina, because they are Blueblood badketball programs, instead of SEMI blue blood ish basketball program like the ones listed, Uconn.

And like I said, Uconn has gone to LOTS of NCAA Tourneys, lots of sweet 16's, some, lots of Elite 8's, a few, some final fours, a few final 2's, a couple, few championships.

And thats in both Men, and Womens Basketball.

In womens basketball, the only team as good as Uconn was, was, has been Tennessee.

Tennessee, and Uconn were usually the top 2 to beat, on the womens basketball side.

So not talking about football, in regards to Uconn.

Was talking about basketball.

And for such a rich, storied, traditioned, semi blue blood basketball program that Uconn was to fall to FCS, is a MIGHTY FALL.

That would be like if DUKE were to fall to FCS, that would also be a mighty fall, just like Uconn is a mighty fall.

There is no FCS in college basketball genius. There is only Division 1, Division 2, or Division 3.

 

[Ffffws]

If football goes to FCS, basketball can stay Div 1. They aren’t married.

 

[COUGinNCW]

If football goes to FCS, basketball can stay Div 1. They aren’t married.

Correct. Villanova plays FCS in Football.

 

[mikalalas]

If football goes to FCS, basketball can stay Div 1. They aren’t married.

Oh I thought they were married.

So Uconn's football program falling to FCS, doesnt mean that Uconn's Basketball program has to fall to basketball FCS like level, Div 2, etc.

Ok thanks for the clarification.

If a Basketball or Football Power does fall tho, that would still mean it could still happen to WSU; if that were to happen.

But if a football or basketball power does not fall, then probably not possible for WSU to fall to FCS.

A football or basketball power falling to FCS. is kind of like a barometer for if WSU could fall to FCS, because if it could happen to a football or basketball power it could happen to WSU.

 

[ElComanche]

Hmm i guess that WSU s deficit means that they are only half pregnant?