The Pac-12 TV deal was signed in the summer of 2011. The money wasn't actually going to come in until 2012. That's why Moos secured the donation from Rankich. It was basically a bridge donation to keep the department floating until the TV hit.
Walden on Airwaves of Spokane Bashing Leach Coaching
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The Pac-12 TV deal was signed in the summer of 2011. The money wasn't actually going to come in until 2012. That's why Moos secured the donation from Rankich. It was basically a bridge donation to keep the department floating until the TV hit.
Don James once quipped he was a 2,000-word underdog during AC weeks. He didn't offer a comparative count on brain cells, however.
Well, its either that or a good slapping down at My Office...pick your poison.
Now we are defining "honesty" by a personal perspective? Lost cause, here. Nothing to see.
Yet another pathetic attempt to explain away a bitter old man and his motives. The sly suggestion that Leach is paying more attention to writing books than winning games is precious.
WSU borrowed over $100Million at Junk Bond rates. what kind of business is that?
No lost cause. He is being true to himself. Bitter, maybe. Butt hurt. Sure. Maybe he just saw kids that were going through a coaching change and he felt it more than most because he had a group that went through four coaches in four years. Who knows. But it blows my mind...and I mean that sincerely it blows my mind we are even discussing Walden, Wulff, or things that are said by even me.
Look over the last three months on this board. 23 pages of posts on the flu, something that happened 4 years ago.
We aren't talking much about Green, or anyone else. Has our secondary problem been fixed? If not, it is on a coach who left four years ago. Leach fixed the hardest position to fix in three years, and that was the offensive line. It has taken years to get to the position where they are now. Be it Price, Doba, Wulff, they all struggled for whatever reason or excuse you care to use. Leach solved it with name and reputation in three years.
We as a group would much rather listen to what you guys call a bitter old man. I love what Walden did for the school. But what he says positive or negative has no barring on WSU football. (for me anyways). The only way I even knew he said something wasn't from people I know who live in Spokane. Nor about people I know in the program. The only people I know who caught it and brought it to the attention of this forum is someone on this forum.
It simply astounds me that what he says takes precedent over what is or isn't happening on the field. And it also astounds me that it would be so personal for some. But I suppose that is where we are as a fan base.
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Probably not Mike Leach in 2008... that coach it was decided...would be the coach to 'cut out the cancer', hence Wulff... but you know that already. Everybody knows that.
... and here we are. Year 4 starting... with a highly sought after elite coach and staff in which money wasn't an issue. Unique state of the art facilities and a Football AD and President... but with fans infected with their demented obsession of the old coach. Very odd indeed.
I see you're in your typical pleasant mood today. Xanax would do you wonders, you should ask your doctor about it.
Yes, precious. Just as your claim about how much time he spends on the book. That is your assertion. Mine is their are some fan bases, like Alabama's who wants a robot as a coach. They don't want Mike Price glad handing the fans. A job the locals in Pullman loved about the man. The job is different. football has to be on your mind 365, 24 hours a day. They don't want book writers, they don't want people schmoozing the public.
Leach works long hours. He gets his work done. He like other coaches have late June and almost all of July off. Gives him plenty of time to write a book. So don't dare put words in my mouth.
To be fair, this "old coach obsession" is usually brought out by others just as much as the likey people you are referring to.
It's essentially forum based click-bait.
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Pretty sure you just admitted you don't know the first thing about his complex donation arrangement.
Well, I don't have time to hang out in Beau Baldwin's office for him to explain it to me.
Actually, if you look at the threads, you will see who invariably brings up Wulff. Personally,
Ok he annoys you. Ignore him. he has a very little voice. Coaches are very loyal by nature. I have zero problem with Leach stumping for Wulff. What you haven't commented on was when Walden deflected the hire of Grinch, said it could be a good hire and people get too caught up in title. He brought up his first DB coach in a player who never coached before in Jimmy Burrows.
And does it really interest you where I work? Let's say I knew who you were and what you do. What would possess me to post any of that? That really has my curiosity. Not sure why it is relevant?
Ed, the cost of the buyout is only one part of the financial commitment in bringing in the new coach. Other parts include paying the new coach, paying the new assistants, paying the new non-coaching staff, and increasing the recruiting and operational budgets.
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Yeah, I'll be sure to take advice from someone named finger disco on a msg board
Walden is a fascinating blend of attention whore and windbag. And yes, he's being true to himself.
Touche', Squarepants!
Seriously, all this talk of beating people up, slapping people, personal insults (e.g., "kiss my ass")--you're like a real life Biff Tannen--I never thought I'd see a movie character come to life, but it happened.
Well, when someone accuses me and my brother of ruining the economy and making shady loans, I'm going to tell him to kiss my ass. Does that offend you?
Then don't read my posts(which you are obsessed with.)
Maybe take your own advice and take some Xanax for that...or perhaps some cookie butter.
Correct. I get the expense. They run in the red all the time. Moos was privy to the negotiations. He knew what they were going to get, or at least the initial figure, and it was way more than enough to secure a coach.
Also, Floyd wanted Wulff gone. Is that really up for dispute. Even if Moos couldn't have found a backer for the short term, which he could have, there was another fund the President was going to allow him to dip into. This was told to me by someone on this board, who had a close friend very close to the situation.
Again, we can argue about the minutia all we want. Let's say he wanted Leach in 2010. He could have offered Leach a way under market salary for year one. Then He could have made up the difference in year two. He is a creative guy. You really think he couldn't figure a way if he didn't have a safety from the "rumored" Presidential fund?
In his own words he made the decision to retain Wulff. The million dollar question is why is that so hard to believe?
Our department has always run in the red. An extra three million for six months to a year would have been doable.
Ok Biff, if telling somebody to "kiss my ass" or threatening to beat people up is an appropriate response in your eyes, knock yourself out. Just don't act surprised that everybody piles on to ridicule you for the stuff you say.
(and not reading your posts is like not looking at a trainwreck or a car crash--it can't be done).
While I'm with you, in a generic sense, that I'm tired of the continual CPW thing, all parties are culpable on that one. So point your finger at others all you want, but you continually post about him, as well. In a generic sense, you're mind gets blown because we talk about Cougar football, both past and present? It simply astounds you? You're mind is a little fragile. You should take a break… Remember, not everyone is as cultured as you. Not as aged and wise and some of us are just so gosh darned petty… As you and your brother say ad nauseam, don't read it, don't respond to it.
You're telling me you and your bro don't have any FAS-114 skeletons in your closet?
Sure he did. Mike Bellotti didn't want to get back in football. My guess if Bellotti wanted a job, the
Well if that is your take, I didn't say petty, or even imply. I am astounded because Wulff is no longer relevant. There is stuff way more current. I don't need a break. Just surprised that is all. Who said I am "cultured". Unfortunately you have the wrong read. I have no problem reading it, I have no problem with what most people write. The personal attacks, including my brother's is uncalled for.
But you have the right to post whatever you would like. I disagree with almost everything you do write, but I respect your opinions and your ability to communicate them.
Shocked, astounded. People don't normally like having that in their lives, that is all. And while I completely agree with the personal attacks, if you were to count the number of times your brother cusses someone out vs how many people cuss him out, I don't know you'd have much ground to stand on, on that kind of statement.
But I guess where I was going with this: With Walden, it's "who he is". You've accepted him for what he is. Yet those on this board, you're astounded with. Pick ed. Why are you so "OK" with Walden but with me and others, you're astounded and shocked?
This coming from a guy who blew his gasket because I said that we should fire Leach if he goes 3-9 again...which I said in the same post I don't think he'll do.
If anyone is fragile, it is you. If anyone needs a break, it is you.
You read emotion into so much, man. You get all worked up so that means when you're reading, you're reading in that worked up state. All the sudden, in your mind, everyone is shouting and yelling. Meanwhile, in reality, very few of us are worked up enough to cuss someone out. Just you Sponge.
CP...too funny. I had to look the term up. Do I have past clients who were devastated by the down turn in the market? Do I have clients that had a short sale? Do I have any clients that had their home foreclosed on? Is that the question, or do I have clients who were subprime and didn't qualify in the first place or negligence on my behalf?
Not sure the question. Are there people I know who sold subprime loans? Yep. Do I know the financial toll the loans Lehman, Bear Stearns, Countrywide had on so many people? Yep. Do I know unsuspecting people, like the teachers in Norway who had that crap bundled in their retirement funds? Yep. Do I know the toll that it had on the economy in general, and also the people in my industry who were as honest as the day is long? Yep.
