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Dickert should RIP a hole into OC, DC, as players played well, hard, etc, between some to most of time.

This loss was on Arbuckle, and Schmedding, Not on the players.

Yes if the players had not done things like over pursue, miscommunicate, take bad angles, not stay in lanes at home, not blown a coverage assignment, not overthrown WIDE OPEN WR, not dropped balls, etc, then yes, if not for those things, beyond coaches control, then WSU would have won.


But the reason it's the DC'S, OC's fault for losing the game.

1. Dampier was doing SHIT in the air. In fact Dampier had about a 35% completion percentage, and only had 1,2 big pass plays all game long. Meanwhile Dampier was GASHING on the ground. Schmedding SHOULD HAVE PUT 7,8 in the Box, about 97% of time, to STOP DAMPIER FROM RUNNING AND TO FORCE DAMPIER TO THROW, and have had 3,4 DB's, 1 LB play a man to man matchup zone, or man coverage on 2nd and 17, 3rd and 13 type downs, and blitz, rush 4,5, have 1,2,3 spy, stay at home, in case Dampier scrambles, runs, and drop back 3,4,5 into coverage.

Schmedding's FAILURE to do that is 1/3 of why WSU lost. Dickert should have forced Schmedding. Dickert's failure to force Schmedding to do that is 1/2 of the 1/3 why WSU lost.

2. In the 2nd half Arbuckle was too predictable, and didn't adjust in his play calling. The TV announcers said LOTS of times that the New Mexico defense was dropping 6,7,8 back into coverage, and rushing, blitzing 3,4,5 combined together on 2nd, 3rd downs.

What NM did was to put 6,7 in box to stuff run on first down, hold WSU to 3.5 rushing yards on 1st down, and in pass coverage play sideline passes, screen passes, bubble passes, shovel passes, short slants, short crosses, short curls, etc, very tight, so as to not give up more then 3.5 yards, pass or run on average, in order to force 2nd and long, 3rd and long in order to drop 5,6,7,8, and rush, blitz, 3,4,5,6, which shut mateer, WSU offense down, because Arbuckle, offense PLAYED RIGHT INTO NEW MEXICO'S DEFENSIVE HANDS.

On 1st down Arbuckle should have called, mixed in a few, some play action pass, RPO option spread, to set up the run, loosen up defense. Also Arbuckle should have at least had some midrange 17+ yard routes, passes on 1st down, to loosen up the short, tight coverage of NM. And Arbuckle should have called at least 1 reverse sweep run, 1 Wildcat WR run, and 2,3 runs by either RB, QB between Guard and Tackle, semi outside that breaks to semi outside, both right, and left, to wide side of field, instead of always predictably running the ball between center and guard, up the gut.

And on 2nd and 5,6,7,8, instead of passing almost all the time into drop 6,7,8, rush, blitz 3,4,5, Arbuckle should have run the ball about 39% to 43% to 46% of time, which would have stopped NM from dropping 6,7,8, rush, blitzing 3,4,5.

Basically Arbuckle needs to use every blade of grass on the football field, short, mid, deep, left, right, sideline to sideline, with both passes, and runs, and needs to take whatever the defense gives. If the defense is loading the box with 7 players, then FCKING pass. If defense only has 4,5 in Box, then FCKING run. If defense is playing the short passing zones extremely tight, then throw midrange or deep. If defense is covering, playing the mid to deep passing zones tight, then pass underneath.


Arbuckle was doing that, those things most of time in first half, which is why the offense was good in 1st half.

But in the 2nd half, it's like, as if Arbuckle forgot how to react, adjust, call effective play calls, and was too lazy, predictable, bad, ineffective.

Both Schmedding, Arbuckle, the coaching staff, was totally OUTCOACHED, OUT ADJUSTED, by Bronco Mendenhall, and his coaching staff. Because of that, THIS LOSS IN ON BRONCO AND HIS STAFF TO GIVE THEM CREDIT, AND ON SCHMEDDING, ARBUCKLE AND THUS ON DICKERT.
Mike,

Our defense is downright weak, horrible and bad.

It's that simple.

Dickert should RIP a hole into OC, DC, as players played well, hard, etc, between some to most of time.

This loss was on Arbuckle, and Schmedding, Not on the players.

Yes if the players had not done things like over pursue, miscommunicate, take bad angles, not stay in lanes at home, not blown a coverage assignment, not overthrown WIDE OPEN WR, not dropped balls, etc, then yes, if not for those things, beyond coaches control, then WSU would have won.


But the reason it's the DC'S, OC's fault for losing the game.

1. Dampier was doing SHIT in the air. In fact Dampier had about a 35% completion percentage, and only had 1,2 big pass plays all game long. Meanwhile Dampier was GASHING on the ground. Schmedding SHOULD HAVE PUT 7,8 in the Box, about 97% of time, to STOP DAMPIER FROM RUNNING AND TO FORCE DAMPIER TO THROW, and have had 3,4 DB's, 1 LB play a man to man matchup zone, or man coverage on 2nd and 17, 3rd and 13 type downs, and blitz, rush 4,5, have 1,2,3 spy, stay at home, in case Dampier scrambles, runs, and drop back 3,4,5 into coverage.

Schmedding's FAILURE to do that is 1/3 of why WSU lost. Dickert should have forced Schmedding. Dickert's failure to force Schmedding to do that is 1/2 of the 1/3 why WSU lost.

2. In the 2nd half Arbuckle was too predictable, and didn't adjust in his play calling. The TV announcers said LOTS of times that the New Mexico defense was dropping 6,7,8 back into coverage, and rushing, blitzing 3,4,5 combined together on 2nd, 3rd downs.

What NM did was to put 6,7 in box to stuff run on first down, hold WSU to 3.5 rushing yards on 1st down, and in pass coverage play sideline passes, screen passes, bubble passes, shovel passes, short slants, short crosses, short curls, etc, very tight, so as to not give up more then 3.5 yards, pass or run on average, in order to force 2nd and long, 3rd and long in order to drop 5,6,7,8, and rush, blitz, 3,4,5,6, which shut mateer, WSU offense down, because Arbuckle, offense PLAYED RIGHT INTO NEW MEXICO'S DEFENSIVE HANDS.

On 1st down Arbuckle should have called, mixed in a few, some play action pass, RPO option spread, to set up the run, loosen up defense. Also Arbuckle should have at least had some midrange 17+ yard routes, passes on 1st down, to loosen up the short, tight coverage of NM. And Arbuckle should have called at least 1 reverse sweep run, 1 Wildcat WR run, and 2,3 runs by either RB, QB between Guard and Tackle, semi outside that breaks to semi outside, both right, and left, to wide side of field, instead of always predictably running the ball between center and guard, up the gut.

And on 2nd and 5,6,7,8, instead of passing almost all the time into drop 6,7,8, rush, blitz 3,4,5, Arbuckle should have run the ball about 39% to 43% to 46% of time, which would have stopped NM from dropping 6,7,8, rush, blitzing 3,4,5.

Basically Arbuckle needs to use every blade of grass on the football field, short, mid, deep, left, right, sideline to sideline, with both passes, and runs, and needs to take whatever the defense gives. If the defense is loading the box with 7 players, then FCKING pass. If defense only has 4,5 in Box, then FCKING run. If defense is playing the short passing zones extremely tight, then throw midrange or deep. If defense is covering, playing the mid to deep passing zones tight, then pass underneath.


Arbuckle was doing that, those things most of time in first half, which is why the offense was good in 1st half.

But in the 2nd half, it's like, as if Arbuckle forgot how to react, adjust, call effective play calls, and was too lazy, predictable, bad, ineffective.

Both Schmedding, Arbuckle, the coaching staff, was totally OUTCOACHED, OUT ADJUSTED, by Bronco Mendenhall, and his coaching staff. Because of that, THIS LOSS IN ON BRONCO AND HIS STAFF TO GIVE THEM CREDIT, AND ON SCHMEDDING, ARBUCKLE AND THUS ON DICKERT.

WSU at New Mexico game thread....

And please... don't twist what I'm saying (not that you specifically are)

We would be morons to fire a coach batting 500 against fuw and if he gets us a 10 win season.

Especially since we are broke and still trying to set up a f'ing conference
Record against UW should not be a determining factor. And no, WSU is not going to fire a head coach after a 10-win season (or even after an 8-win season).

The bar for coordinator positions should be much lower. We’ve got an offensethat has seriously underperformed for 2 seasons, built around an OL that can’t block. And a defense that is now among the worst in the country, can’t generate QB pressure, can’t tackle, and can’t cover the pass. Those all seem like serious problems.

And, yes…the HC shares responsibility for hiring them in the first place. But coordinators are always the first to go. And go they should.

WSU at New Mexico game thread....

I don’t care if we do get to 10 wins, both of our coordinators should go. This team has shown no improvement, and I think has regressed from September to now. We have trouble blocking, and we have trouble tackling.

Tonight a 198 pound QB was moving the pile on us. Tonight we couldn’t diagnose a play/formation even though they ran it 57 times. Tonight we were tearing them up with a mix of run & pass and had a chance to take control, but instead went to all pass. We made no adjustments. It was a total shitshow, and our coaches apparently didn’t notice that their plans weren’t working. That may be why half the defense looked like they were asleep - they knew the coaches weren’t paying attention anyway.

I’ve seen some bad performances on the football field, but this one rates pretty high on the list. This isn’t a good team that just beat us, even worse than that it’s a bad defense that shut us down.
And please... don't twist what I'm saying (not that you specifically are)

We would be morons to fire a coach batting 500 against fuw and if he gets us a 10 win season.

Especially since we are broke and still trying to set up a f'ing conference

Nex Mexico pulled 2 lineman repeatedly.

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DE #88 was abused repeatedly
There are players all over this defense who wouldn’t be in the two deeps on some of these MW defenses. The talent isn’t there and the poor coaching really exposes it. They were physically dominated by New Mexico. Normally we see the two to three turnovers that flips the script but when those don’t show up it’s bad bad.

WSU at New Mexico game thread....

No Biggs. WSU has had the world against them. The coaches got us good enough to beat fuw... Dickert has done it twice... IN SEATTLE!

We are probably going to have 10 wins this season which is a miracle.

I'm not saying they are awesome by any means.

I am saying that if we get 10 wins this season with all that has been against us... you cant even remotely think of firing them.
I don’t care if we do get to 10 wins, both of our coordinators should go. This team has shown no improvement, and I think has regressed from September to now. We have trouble blocking, and we have trouble tackling.

Tonight a 198 pound QB was moving the pile on us. Tonight we couldn’t diagnose a play/formation even though they ran it 57 times. Tonight we were tearing them up with a mix of run & pass and had a chance to take control, but instead went to all pass. We made no adjustments. It was a total shitshow, and our coaches apparently didn’t notice that their plans weren’t working. That may be why half the defense looked like they were asleep - they knew the coaches weren’t paying attention anyway.

I’ve seen some bad performances on the football field, but this one rates pretty high on the list. This isn’t a good team that just beat us, even worse than that it’s a bad defense that shut us down.

WSU at New Mexico game thread....

No Biggs. WSU has had the world against them. The coaches got us good enough to beat fuw... Dickert has done it twice... IN SEATTLE!

We are probably going to have 10 wins this season which is a miracle.

I'm not saying they are awesome by any means.

I am saying that if we get 10 wins this season with all that has been against us... you cant even remotely think of firing them.
Dickert and his staff screwed the pooch tonight. Whatever happened at halftime is inexcusable. Whatever that garbage play calling was by Arbuckle in the third Q is inexcusable. The fact the D couldn’t make any adjustments and accepted death by 1000 paper cuts is inexcusable at this level. The clock management at the end of the game was awful.

Dickert deserves some credit for what the team has accomplished this season but they have some soul searching to do. Certainly seems like there’s some guys on this staff that can’t get it done at this level based on what we saw tonight.

WSU at New Mexico game thread....

A B-? Jesus. Wake the fck up. It’s an F. They dont win games because of the coaching. They win in spite of the coaching.
No Biggs. WSU has had the world against them. The coaches got us good enough to beat fuw... Dickert has done it twice... IN SEATTLE!

We are probably going to have 10 wins this season which is a miracle.

I'm not saying they are awesome by any means.

I am saying that if we get 10 wins this season with all that has been against us... you cant even remotely think of firing them.

WSU at New Mexico game thread....

Jfc dude go look at the posts. I was calling for them to use timeouts when there was like a minute left. There’s nothing hindsight about it. You could tell they were going to score, it was a matter of how much time we’d have to go the other way. I literally said (jokingly) so we just let em score so we can have 2 minutes and 3 timeouts left…obviously that’s extreme but then they got two big chunks and were on our 12 yard line. At that point you have to start thinking about conserving time because it’ wasn’t an issue for them. I can’t explain this to you any more simply. You are wrong. They proved it. Just stop.
Let it go, dude. I don’t agree, and I don’t give a shit about what you posted..or your opinion in general.
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A B-? Jesus. Wake the fck up. It’s an F. They dont win games because of the coaching. They win in spite of the coaching.
I think in the second half of most of our games, we’d be better off letting Mateer call his own plays.

In fact, I’m not sure that didn’t happen against SJSU, Fresno, and SDSU. And maybe tonight, on the drive where we retook the lead for a minute.
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It’s embarrassing that you’re setting up strategy based on hindsight. The way this one worked out, you can argue for using the timeouts. During the action, when you’ve got the lead, and especially when the other team is running the ball, you don’t do them a favor and stop the clock.
Jfc dude go look at the posts. I was calling for them to use timeouts when there was like a minute left. There’s nothing hindsight about it. You could tell they were going to score, it was a matter of how much time we’d have to go the other way. I literally said (jokingly) so we just let em score so we can have 2 minutes and 3 timeouts left…obviously that’s extreme but then they got two big chunks and were on our 12 yard line. At that point you have to start thinking about conserving time because it’ wasn’t an issue for them. I can’t explain this to you any more simply. You are wrong. They proved it. Just stop.

WSU at New Mexico game thread....

Losing when we play solid hard nosed football doesnt bother me, i dont like it but there is no shame in putting out your best effort and losing to a better team. That didnt happen tonight

Yes. If you are well coached, play hard nosed football and the game is well called and managed… if you lose, fine. You went down swinging.

Dickfore sucks ass. There are none of those things happening.

MI sucks ass too. Shove your proverbs up your ass you fcking moron.

WSU at New Mexico game thread....

It was never great. It is a middle class Mtn West team that has come out on top in some games. Credit for gritty, late wins. But this is a poorly coached program top to bottom.
Losing when we play solid hard nosed football doesnt bother me, i dont like it but there is no shame in putting out your best effort and losing to a better team. That didnt happen tonight
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You’d need a score in 13 seconds having sat on all of your timeouts. I’d kick your ass up and down the field. It’s embarrassing that you are trying to make an argument for that clock management after the fact. Just stop.
It’s embarrassing that you’re setting up strategy based on hindsight. The way this one worked out, you can argue for using the timeouts. During the action, when you’ve got the lead, and especially when the other team is running the ball, you don’t do them a favor and stop the clock.
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WSU at New Mexico game thread....

It was never great. It is a middle class Mtn West team that has come out on top in some games. Credit for gritty, late wins. But this is a poorly coached program top to bottom.
I would say our coaching is a little bit above average. I'm going B-.

How can they not be better than this with being so far into the season?

That's my biggest disappointment.

WSU at New Mexico game thread....

21 actually, because the defense didn’t do their job. If I use my timeouts, their offense gets to relax, because now they have 6. They can do whatever they want. And if they fumble a snap, or take a sack, it’s no longer devastating. Also tells your defense you have no confidence in them.

If you use the timeouts and they score, your offense is left basically hosed if there’s less than a full minute. They have to throw to the sidelines and get out. Keep the timeouts, you can still use the middle of the field.

It’s all variations in approach and situations. I wouldn’t say either is wrong, but I’ll say that if my team line up against yours, I’ll beat you on clock management.
You’d need a score in 13 seconds having sat on all of your timeouts. I’d kick your ass up and down the field. It’s embarrassing that you are trying to make an argument for that clock management after the fact. Just stop.
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CFP rankings...

Yup, with you there.

IIRC, you have some UGA ties? I'd apologize about last weekend's game but I have some Ole Miss allegiances in my household so there was some celebratin'.
I graduated from both WSU & UGA. Ole Miss was tough but I think it was pretty clear this is not a championship team, even after tonight’s UT win. NIL/portal are destroying dynasties. That’s why Saban got out and sounds like Kirby’s getting burned out. Worse for the blue bloods, better for everyone else.

WSU at New Mexico game thread....

Sure ok. How’d that work out for you? They scored and you had 13 seconds left? You are wrong
21 actually, because the defense didn’t do their job. If I use my timeouts, their offense gets to relax, because now they have 6. They can do whatever they want. And if they fumble a snap, or take a sack, it’s no longer devastating. Also tells your defense you have no confidence in them.

If you use the timeouts and they score, your offense is left basically hosed if there’s less than a full minute. They have to throw to the sidelines and get out. Keep the timeouts, you can still use the middle of the field.

It’s all variations in approach and situations. I wouldn’t say either is wrong, but I’ll say that if my team line up against yours, I’ll beat you on clock management.

CFP rankings...

Well hello there, stranger. What brings you back to the board at this particular time?
I come and go now. Just got too busy with work and kids to go to games and post much. I also lost some of the spark when Leach fizzled and left, was replaced by Rolo, then COVID, Dickert, the PAC-12 mutiny, etc. Throw in NIL and transfer portal. If that doesn’t kill off the team, I’m sure I’ll be back when I retire and buy an RV…
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