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Don’t bag on Loyal’s wife
What did you call Loyal the other day? I admit it was funny.Loyal, Palousepuma/Cougpatrol need to just STFU
LoyalstoogeWhat did you call Loyal the other day? I admit it was funny.
When Bruce Feldman reports it, believe it.
Until then approx $3M per year forever > $5M for 5 years.
Hey, their Mom is a lot younger than me. Don’t be a hater.
This is a good point. Is anyone else willing to give him, basically, a guaranteed, never ending contract?
I just can't see schools like Tenn & Nebraska doing that.
Agree....if Leach were to coach at WSU until he is 67 he would make another 35 mil. Here is the part of the equation that in the above scenario that hasn't been factored in..and I am not a math major....that at the end of 5 years or whatever the time frame that Leach at 62 won't get another offer if he is fired. If he gets fired from one of those two schools in your scenario, I would bet WSU, OSU or whomever who buck up 3 mill for another five years after that, so I am not sure it is about loss of money.This is a good point. Is anyone else willing to give him, basically, a guaranteed, never ending contract?
I just can't see schools like Tenn & Nebraska doing that.
There is truth in the the old Earl Weaver saying "managers (coaches) are hired to get fired. Almost every fan base has unreal expectations, expect perfection even though the coaches rely on 18-22 year old kids, and eventually almost all coaches wear out their welcome. Heck, even WSU asked the classiest guy imaginable to leave.I work with a Nebraska alum and while he is intrigued by Leach, he knows from the Tech days and recent Leach interviews that the pirate is not a good overall fit for the Cornhuskers. Their fan base would turn on Leach eventually
Ken Bone's classiness had nothing to do with keeping him around or letting him go. There has to be some positive results and an improving trend line. His went the other direction.There is truth in the the old Earl Weaver saying "managers (coaches) are hired to get fired. Almost every fan base has unreal expectations, expect perfection even though the coaches rely on 18-22 year old kids, and eventually almost all coaches wear out their welcome. Heck, even WSU asked the classiest guy imaginable to leave.
Wasn't talking about Bone.Ken Bone's classiness had nothing to do with keeping him around or letting him go. There has to be some positive results and an improving trend line. His went the other direction.
Glad Cougar
pay increase and that he could be the right guy for Tennessee. Whatever happens it will happen in the next two weeks.
Sorry Ed. The way you described the guy fit Ken to a T. Were you talking about Doba?Wasn't talking about Bone.
Not as bad a fit as Tennessee or nebraska, but I'm not sure I see Leach anywhere in the SEC again. With the possible exception of Kentucky and Vanderbilt, their expectations are too high, along with the pressure and scrutiny.
CorrectSorry Ed. The way you described the guy fit Ken to a T. Were you talking about Doba?
Glad Cougar
Looks like Leach will be making more money in 2018....
Correct
Looks like Leach will be making more money in 2018....
No! Political! Talk! On! This! Board!Yes...and to think of the thousands of poor people with little food in Washington state.....
No! Political! Talk! On! This! Board!
Gave you a "like" for this because I found it amusing. Who are these idiots? Anything is possible, of course, but some of these supposed possibilities are hilarious.
I don’t see Leach in Arkansas, but I guess you never know. Was Moos’s decision to head to Nebraska influenced by him knowing Leach was going to shop himself around after the season?
Banke Fraud...yes it is. No QB, no dline. Recipe for disaster. We were starting to give up a ton of points when Brink couldn't burn clock, Oregon and OSU 50 plus, Arizona 47. So yes Bankeless....while I love Doba and I can also see where the program went.Is this the same Bill Doba you blame for the collapse of the program under Wulffie?
Banke Job....In two threads you have told someone to take a golden shower and claimed to bang someone's wife. Not to mention all the other sexual references you post. Are you truly this deprived? When you visit the Yakima/Grandview area isn't there some place you can get this taken care of?Go take a golden shower!
Banke Fraud...yes it is. No QB, no dline. Recipe for disaster. We were starting to give up a ton of points when Brink couldn't burn clock, Oregon and OSU 50 plus, Arizona 47. So yes Bankeless....while I love Doba and I can also see where the program went.
The difference is that those other coaches hadn't seen or experienced what CML has. They were up and comers who were open to the next opportunity; to think otherwise was naive.In the nearly 40 years that I've been following WSU, the fan reaction when an established WSU coach is getting attention from other suitors has remained constant.
Walden, Erickson, Price, Leach, Sampson, Tony Bennett. "He loves Pullman. He's not going anywhere. That program isn't a good fit for him. I think he realizes what he has in Pullman. No way he leaves."
The reality is that none of us know how the coaches, and perhaps more importantly, their wives and family, feel about living in Pullman. I knew Tony Bennett's wife wanted out of Pullman. She made that known within the inner circle of WSUs big wigs. It was just too far away and far removed from everyone in her family. Leach's wife is more mysterious. I haven't heard anything about her opinion on Pullman, or anything else for that matter. Is she ready for warmer weather? Easier flights to wherever they may be traveling? Or does she love the limited media circus and easy lifestyle that Pullman affords them?
Find that out and you'll have discovered a huge piece of the puzzle.
I agree...and if say JT Levi was qb against Oregon and Oregon State and couldn't muster a first down like Brink could, the scores would have been much worse. Brink could play keep away for awhile. That was the difference. That and Doba had started out 2007 with Aaron Johnson, Ropati and Amhu at DT.Big difference between legitimately giving up 50 and "only" giving up 69 because the other team starts taking knees in the first half.
I mean, yea, 53-7 or 52-17 sucks, but it's a whole different world than 69-0, where the 69 easily could have been 100 if the other coach wanted it to be.
I guess that is the one part I don't get. Why do people think Leach wouldn't go somewhere because they have a vocal fan base or they have unreal expectations. Leach has a great quality not to hear or get wrapped up in that and he simply goes about perfecting his craft.The difference is that those other coaches hadn't seen or experienced what CML has. They were up and comers who were open to the next opportunity; to think otherwise was naive.
Leach has been there. He's experienced a school with a large donor base, hands on regents and administration, whiny and demanding alum/ donors - you know, the people who got him fired without pay.
I'm not saying that he won't leave, but having experienced the laissez faire at WSU I would think he would at least consider it before jumping back into the shark tank.
Did you read his book? His quotes? Anything at all about his experience at TT?I guess that is the one part I don't get. Why do people think Leach wouldn't go somewhere because they have a vocal fan base or they have unreal expectations. Leach has a great quality not to hear or get wrapped up in that and he simply goes about perfecting his craft.
He was talking about administration. That is why if he were to leave it would be for his dream job (which I don't believe is open) or a job where he knows admin. (Bill Moos) I can't see at 57 him taking a job with screwed up administration.Did you read his book? His quotes? Anything at all about his experience at TT?
He stated himself, and I'm paraphrasing here, that having a million cooks telling him how he should do his job was the worst part of being at TT.
Anyone else? Did I mis-read or misunderstand what he wrote?
I agree...and if say JT Levi was qb against Oregon and Oregon State and couldn't muster a first down like Brink could, the scores would have been much worse. Brink could play keep away for awhile. That was the difference. That and Doba had started out 2007 with Aaron Johnson, Ropati and Amhu at DT.
Happens all the time. Didn't Halliday miss the Apple Cup because Bosch went out and we started a young center who was run over by Leonard Williams on his way to break Halliday's leg? And didn't Falk miss the 15 Apple Cup because he was carted off in a stretcher? Seems like something that happens when you start and have to play young inexperienced linemen.As usual, you have omitted that Wulff got every other QB on the depth in front of JT Levenseller injured. Two spinal injuries and one blown knee.
I agree...and if say JT Levi was qb against Oregon and Oregon State and couldn't muster a first down like Brink could, the scores would have been much worse. Brink could play keep away for awhile. That was the difference. That and Doba had started out 2007 with Aaron Johnson, Ropati and Amhu at DT.
Happens all the time. Didn't Halliday miss the Apple Cup because Bosch went out and we started a young center who was run over by Leonard Williams on his way to break Halliday's leg? And didn't Falk miss the 15 Apple Cup because he was carted off in a stretcher? Seems like something that happens when you start and have to play young inexperienced linemen.
Of course, Falk has made 38 of 39 career starts, whereas Wulff got 3 QBs injured in his first 4 weeks on the job. Great comparison otherwise though.
Of course, Falk has made 38 of 39 career starts, whereas Wulff got 3 QBs injured in his first 4 weeks on the job. Great comparison otherwise though.